The National Midnight Star #2055

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@yyz.com Subject: 06/18/98 - The National Midnight Star #2055
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Silver Sun's cover Of Xanadu Response to B-man The back of signals "WHATEVER"===THE MOVIE=== Xanadu Speed - BLASPHEMY!! Bitch-man The legal crap thing that's happenin'... Re: Track Speed on Xanadu replyto: bbbman Re: "Draft" for the 2112 edition Upside Down Crosses in HYF picture Red Wings/Rush & Stanely Cup Music Re: Page/Plant/Seattle ROCKS/Troy McClure Rush and Boston- the band EXTRA SUPER 2112 TURBO BOOST TAPE Spare us-PLEASE!!!! Lawyers, copyrights, and expression.. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager) Date: Thu Jun 18 11:30:51 PDT 1998 Subject: Administrivia A few things... First, yes, that post by B-Man WAS REALLY him. Second, I didn't intend the lawyer thing to stir up a lot of argument here in the NMS, I simply wanted everyone to know where the NMS web pages had gone and why. The less said about it in the digest, the better. And finally, some REAL RUSH NEWS! Check out Rushme's (Douglas Maher) post a few posts down. Looks like the live album is set for release in late September! - rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- From: KOPTIS@webtv.net (Mark J. Lanzilla) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:22:19 -0400 Subject: THE "RUSH"FERRARI 456 GT ok gang----just shipped out 5 more orders for the "RUSH" car........... so to Lisa,Al,Karen,Ward,and Eric...look for your mailman!!!! for the rest who still want 1---or 10....let me know...i've got a roving spy trying to gobble up as many as i can for us to have as a novelity!! PLEASE E-MAIL ME IF YOU ARE INTERESTED!!! OH! did i mention that the car's racing number is 21???? as in 2112??? YA GOTTA LOVE IT!!!!! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: tommer@execpc.com (Thomas) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:32:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Wow, Blockbuster *is* pretty cool! Hey all... *** This is sorta boring, but DOES have Rush content :-) *** I was feelin' a little bored the other night, and decided to head on over to Blockbuster to rent a video. Well, after looking around awhile, no really finding anything I wanted to watch, I went over to the "Special Interest" section. I noticed a lot of old music video tapes there, such as Pink Floyd's "The Wall", and many other things. I just wanted to see if there were any Rush videos...and low and behold, there was the "Grace Under Pressure Tour" video. I had never seen it before, so of COURSE I had to rent it. It was pretty cool to see! At the end of the tape, they had the original verison of "The Big Money", instead of the shortened eMpTVy version, another cool thing to see. Also, when I went to pay for the tape, the guy at the counter goes, "Rush! Alright!!" I have a little more respect for those people at Blockbuster now...I wonder if they'd mind if I kept it a few days longer, and just forget about that extra late charge? hehe Well, sorry for the long boring post...just wanted to share this little tidbit with all of ya. Blockbuster did surprise me by having this tape available to rent, so if any of you are looking for old "out of print" Rush videos, try your local Blockbuster. You never know what you'll find! Cheers! Tom ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Roach <rroach@seamed.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:06:10 -0700 Subject: another RUSH inpired musician dies I just want to add another "High 5" to RUSH's honors. Another artist, JEFF BUCKLEY" which I have seen in Boston and met had died last year on May 29 (ironically my birthday) but in the new "unmastered" release of his last album that he never quite finished, it has a RUSH kinda feeling. Searching more into his background, RUSH was one of his inspirations for writing music. I suggest you grab a copy of his new or past "Grace" (Hmmm...what did you think of right there? GUP?)album and see what you think. Also, listening to the last CD that the friends of RUSH put out, the band TRIUMPH, Terry Brown had done some work with the band and produced a fine recording. Has any one seen TRIUMPH? I have and being a sincere RUSH fan and joining RUSH in concert since 83, I think that TRIUMPH's light shows were a bit better that what SEE FACTOR, the lighting co. for Rush can produce. I met 2 of the lighting guys from SEE FACTOR one year and they were "trying new things".....but I have to say TRIUMPH had always topped the "light effects" Sorry fellow RUSH fans but if you are a true fan , we go to hear and see the BOYS, not to watch the lights, right? Although one year in Worcester MA, in think it was the GUP tour, the show started out with a laser shot from the stage to the middle of the arena center rafters where a rotating ball of red soon emerged a face like figure that actually spoke to the crowd. Did this happen in other cities or does anyone remember this? Also, I think that was the year Mountain opened up for RUSH and after 2 songs, the RUSH crowd booed their hillbilly asses off stage and brought RUSH out ½ hour early. WAY TO GO RUSH FANS!!!! One more foot note, a radio station in Nashua NH who plays only top 40 hits was playing played Nobodys Hero when COUNTERPARTS came out. I think it was more of the message within the song that made that station play it, and who says RUSH can't play the the TOP 40 kids? RUSH IS HERE AND NOW MORE THAN EVER BEFORE... Ron R. The Master of Time ...Space..and Dimension "I RUN BETWEEN THE SHADOWS...SOME ARE PHANTOMS, SOME ARE REAL...... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott McDow <mcdow@ibm.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 22:12:36 -0400 Subject: lerxst on ctth/wings sweep! Hey! Ophelia313@aol.com wrote: >P.S. I was at the Counterparts show at the >Pond in Anaheim, Calif. and I could have >sworn that Alex sang CTTH that night not >Geddy. Does anyone else remember that? > [ Alex sang the chorus, Geddy still sang the majority of the song. > : rush-mgr ] At The Palace of Aurburn Hills 3/22/94 leading into Al's "meet the orchestra" jam, Ged fades out the vocal CTTH chorus and Alex picks it up and changes it. On the Critical Mass CD it sounds like he sings "closer to your house, a spider's in your house, a couch is in your house... yeeaaa". Geddy: Mr. Ted Nugent Neil: the youthful Sparky Anderson >...and I'm, I'm, I'm Lee Iacocca (sp?) lerxst I still can't believe I own a CD from a concert that I actually attended! Even if it is a bootleg. Wings Sweep! This one's for Vlady #16. Go Hockeytown!!!!! later, scoots ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anderson, Chris " <canderso@amp.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 22:59:00 -0400 Subject: Limelight Cover! Hey Rushians out there, Just wanted ya to know that I am covering "Limelight" with a trio I will be jamming with down In Charlottesville, VA. We're trying to get on the weekend college bar circuit there and play something different instead of "dave matthews wannabe" stuff!!! I think Limelight is one of Rush's all time greatest.....do you guys agree?? Well, for me, that song is what really turned me into a Rush fanatic. Wonderful song, and it's very reproducible.......Gedd's vocals aren't too high......not even for me on that one! Well, just thought I'd blab my mouth about "what we're doin'."..... chris a ---------------------------------------------------------- From: CODYCKIR@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 23:13:32 EDT Subject: San Antonio Rush giveaway Most of you may remember a few months ago when several people reported that KISS 99.5 in San Antonio was advertising a trip giveaway to Toronto for a Rush concert. This promotion included five other trips (Pearl Jam in Seattle, Page/Plant in New York, Metallica in Japan, etc...) that have been given away in the last ten weeks. Chances to win the Rush trip were supposed to start this past Monday and run for the next two weeks with the prize given away next Friday. Well it turns out (big surprise) that there is no Rush concert - another Metallica concert (this time in LA) is taking its place. I e-mailed the program director yesterday to get an explanation -- here is his response: > Kevin: > What happened to the Rush in Toronto giveaway? The tenative (the big "wildcard" here) concert was replaced with another Metallica flyaway due to: 1) The Rush situation. 2) The incredible positive response to our first Metallica flyaway. > Did your information about a Rush concert not pan out? Originally we had discussed (with Rush's label and management) doing the flyaway for a show that was to be scheduled for the end of this year in conjunction to the end of Maple Leaf Gardens/the opening of the new Toronto arena. No details were known except that it was in the works. Then came the incident with the death of Neil's daughter, that has since left the status of the band in limbo. Neil is MIA. Talk of the band getting back together is uncertain. We did not want to give a trip away for a concert that may never happen. Thus, the switch. Kevin - =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Kevin Vargas kevinv@kissrocks.com It seems that KISS's current info is just as bad as their original "facts"! Peace, Codeman P.S. - At least they partially made this up in my mind by playing all of Signals last Sunday night. I caught the last half of it after hitting a bucket at the driving range -- at first I thought it was my CD player playing Digital Man until I realized that the radio was on. Hearing Losing It and Countdown on the airwaves was awesome! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Rushme000@aol.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 00:38:28 EDT Subject: THE FIRE THAT LIGHTS ITSELF Well where do i start here?the response to my post has been overwhelming.id say about 70/30 in favor of what i said.anyways i happen to work in the industry and if you looked at some of the things i was addressing were for good reason.lets just go with these. 1.if Rush wasnt inducted this next year into the hall of fame would not most of you bitch and rage about this?my answer=yes 2.if you went to see Rush at your local arena that sat 19,000 people and there were only 6,500 people there would you not feel embarrased?pissed? my answer=yes 3.if a new Rush album was being released in september which it is of sorts and say it was a studio album and the local radio station in your market didnt play the first cut off of it,would you not call then to the station and rage and be pissed because you wanted to hear it? my answer =yes i think you know where i am going with this.radio is a product.it is here for a reason.whether you want to hear it or not i must respond to this issue yet again.Rush is very much indeed on the chopping block in major radio markets. fact:aprox.14 rock AOR format radio stations nationwide have gone down and or switched formats and do not play Rush anymore.this might seem marginal to most considering the size of the united states but i can assure you this much it is a growing trend.radio has its head up its ass right now.they dont know really where music is heading and it is a coin toss.why do you think pop is so huge right now?because,it is safe.pop never fails.top 100 listeners dont care about the bands they are listening to because most likely the song they are listening to will be the only one they ever will and i know i dont need to start listing one hit wonders. what i am getting at here is this.rock radio is different.Rush has the fan base yes.but Rush has a fan base that gets older and older,and now Rush releases come few and far between.the avg.wait for a Rush release is about 2 yrs since they have joined forces with val azzoli the bands personal mate from mercury records.with the tragic death of selena peart time is now going to be longer. this is an eternity in the rock world.trends come and go,styles and themes have thier time in the light,BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THIS,Rush will not be as received as they were for test for echo tour.that is why i posted what i did.not to just make it seem we should do all we can for our "little secret"of a band.im saying this because we need to let the programmers and the people at mtv and vh-1 and radio etc...that there is still a massive market for Rush.if we do not call in and tell them once and awhile about this i hope you enjoyed seeing Rush and listening to new Rush when it comes out because it wont happen ever again if we dont. the last thing i want to see is Rush wind up like queensryche or YES.having the nerve to play arenas of 15,000 to 20,000 seats and think people are going to show up.mind you the last 2 queensryche shows i saw had around 6,500 people in a 20,000 seat arena,unbelieveably 7,000 on the hear in the now frontier tour.YES that was a joke .they had 3,600 people in a 14,700 person arena.i have been to a ton of Rush shows and have noticed a downtrend yes in attendence.not a really huge one but big enough to notice.i dont want to see Rush in a 4,000 seat theater.no thank you.and to the guy or girl who posted that Rush doesnt need the lazers or screen show to make the show.i have one word : BULLSHIT.the lazers and the screen make Rush ,RUSH!.do you really think people would file in and out stadiums to see pink floyd for just the music?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.no way.NO WAY!people know damn well what to expect at a Rush show.they pay thier hard earned $$$$ to see a show.im sick of people putting down the big production shows.i pay alot of money to see these shows i want the works while im being moved emotinaly to the music and lyrics.thats why Rush sells tickets,thats why PINK FLOYD sells tickets. bottom line:test for echo tour was a better tour by 100% because of the show.counterparts lacked it live.the sound wasnt as good live for that tour and the lighting wasnt.why?howard wasnt there!!!!!! he came back and did an incredible job.hey yes i know the setlist was amazing but the lights and lazers were a welcome sight.Rush is an experience,not just a trend of players who have no clue how to put on a show so lets just go out there and play and say good night.hell no!!! i want the film!!!!! i want the fire!!!!! i want the lazers!!!!! i want the smoke!!!!!! i want the crowd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! call me old fashioned,call me an asshole i dont care,its just my opinion. i will have another seperate post not to take away from this one that is very important if you want to know info on the live cd that i have. "PLAYING FOR TIME,DONT WANT TO WAIT FOR HEAVEN" DOUGLAS MAHER RUSHME000@AOL.COM ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Rushme000@aol.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 00:53:42 EDT Subject: IMPORTANT RUSH RELEASE DATE ok now that i have spoken my half on the Rush fans thing here is the news.this is from a RADIO AND RECORDS release sheet that was handed to me while i was doing commercial work the other day.it reads as follows: Rush radio cut pressing-august 12 Rush radio downlink through ATLANTIC-monday morning august 31,1998 7:30 am. Rush single released to radio:august 31,1998,september 1,1998 Atlantic album cut: Animate -running time:6:52 Atlantic album radio edit:Animate-running time 5:50 Release date:September 22,1998 so there it is .this was pretty awesome to see if you ask me.so the first track relesed from the live album will be Animate and we have a release date of some sorts at least for now.my $$ is on this.they are right about all of the release info about 90% of the time. Douglas Maher rushme000@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: jc_hokie@juno.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 00:07:44 -0400 Subject: B-man?? Howdy fellow TNMS'ers... You know, I've been on this list off and on for almost 7 years now, and I've seen several attempts by people to cast themselves as Geddy, Neil, Alex, someone of official-type stature in emails to this list. After about 8.6 seconds or so, of looking and reading...I get the idea that this is a really lame prank and should pay it no mind. Then later laugh at other mindless fools who think it is real and start having an aneurysms over what was said. Fast forward to TNMS #2053 and this letter by someone claiming to be the B-man. In my heart, I still think this letter was not really from the B-man... I can't imagine why he would have such a beef with the content of TNMS. But yet, if it was a prank, the author did a whole lot better job of trying to convince us that it was really the B-man. (I keep saying B-man, 'cuz I can't spell Baniasckewicsz or whatever...) So, I ask humbly...do you really think dat was him? If so...what the hell was HIS problem? If not, what the hell was the problem with the person who DID write it?? [ See my admin note. : rush-mgr ] Puzzledly yours, Jay Cook jkhokie@aol.com ORQ - "Feelings run high." -Rush, "Emotion Detector" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: galahad77@juno.com (Ryan N Waggoner) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 01:35:38 -0500 Subject: Rush sighting I know a while back some people had a HUGE fit with jokes being posted to NMS, but I think you'll all appreicate this...it's been altered a bit to fit in with the content of NMS, so bear with me, folks...(anyone interested in seeing the original version should e-mail me privately) (Also, if you actually need the answers to any of these, please let me know...I can help you with all but the first options on #2 and #15...) Originally Posted From: Mikey's Funnies Mikeys-Funnies@youthspecialties.com BOROUGH OF SCHMENG UNIVERSITY ENTRANCE EXAM: FOOTBALL PLAYER VERSION Time Limit: 3 Weeks 1. Foreign Language: What language is spoken in French-speaking part of Canada? 2. History: Give a dissertation on the ancient Babylonian Empire with particular reference to architecture, literature, law and social conditions OR- Give the first name of Pierre Trudeau. 3. Literature: Which most closely resembles a quote from William Shakespeare? (a) "Four score and seven years ago..." (b) "Fat bottomed girls, you make the rockin' world go 'round...." (c) "All the world's indeed a stage, and we are merely players..." (d) "I wanna rock and roll all night..." 4. Religion: What religion is Neil Peart? (circle only one) (a) Jewish (b) Catholic (c) Hindu (d) Polish (e) Agnostic (f) all of the above 5. Metric Conversion: How many feet equal 0.0 meters? 6. Physics: What time is it (in military time) when the big hand is on the 9 and the little hand is on the 12, and it's dark outside, indicating it's night? 7. Religion: How many commandments were Moses given? (approximately) 8. Geography: What are people in America's far north called? (a) Westerners (b) Southerners (c) Northerners 9. Music History: Spell Dirk, Lerxst, and Pratt. 10. European History: Six kings of England have been called George, the last one being George the Sixth. Name the previous five. 11. Natural Science: Where does rain come from? (a) Macy's (b) a 7-11 (c) Canada (d) the sky 12. Advanced Physics: Can you explain Einstein's Theory of Relativity? (a) yes (b) no 13. Philosophy: Why are we here? OR- What are coat hangers used for? 14. Political Science: "Oh, Canada" is the National Anthem for what country? 15. Physics: Explain Le Chateliers Principle of Dynamic Equilibrium OR- Find an example of the sound of plywood being shattered on a wooden stool. 16. Architecture: Where is the basement in a three-story building located? 17. Agricultural Science: Which part of America produces the most oranges? (a) New York (b) Florida (c) Canada (d) Wisconsin 18. Advanced math: If you have three apples, how many apples do you have? 19. Communications: What does NBC (National Broadcasting Corporation) stand for? IMPORTANT! You must answer three or more questions correctly to qualify. Ryan/Stimpy "Someday we'll find it: the rainbow connection; the lovers, the dreamers, and me." Kermit the Frog ("The Rainbow Connection") Visit my page!! < http://members.xoom.com/rstimpyw/ > ---------------------------------------------------------- From: COP42194@aol.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:56:08 EDT Subject: Alex Van Halen >> So, for what it's worth, "Thanks Neil !" You've obviously had an influence on even one of YOUR peers ... Mr. Alex Van Halen. << Maybe so but Alex still sucks. With the exception of "Hot for Teacher" (which the stiff probably tracked) name a tune that requires a decent amount of skill on the kit to play. Good luck! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: COP42194@aol.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:54:05 EDT Subject: Tempest ROCKS Yeah, I am one of those guys who is supposed to be far to old to care about video games. At 27, I should be more concerned with my 401k so I can retire early, I guess. Whatever. I had to chime in, tho, about Tempest. There was a time in the early 80's when video games required THOUGHT. There was more to them than just 2 guys standing there fighting (Kung-Fu Master by Data East was the first me thinks. Any input?). The early 80's signaled (pun) the birth of the video revoloution. Were it not for the Space Invaders, Pac Mans, Defenders (my fav) or Tempests, there would be no damn Mortal Kombat 18 or whatever the hell they are churning out in arcades now. Back to my spreadsheets. . . ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rushfan.2112@juno.com (Christopher W Lindsay) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:30:27 -0400 Subject: Start a thread? I have been curious for a long time about what RUSH fans watch on TV. If this has been done, I apologize. I was thinking that if anyone types their fav. TV show, I will generate a list and give final results. If this sounds lame, don't contribute, but I think it'd be pretty interesting. I'll start with my fav. show. Fav. TV show: Law and Order ORQ: "Can't you see my temperature's rising?" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Horta <phorta@i-2000.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:43:23 -0400 Subject: Silver Sun's cover Of Xanadu Hey Russ, thanks for pointing out the cover of Xanadu by UK band Silver Sun.I went out yesterday and got it and it is a really great cover version.For those of you interested it is on their cd ep titled Too Much, Too Little, Too Late on Polydor Records.It features four cover songs.The Xanadu cover is cut down to about four minutes and it really rocks. Later, Al ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Horta <phorta@i-2000.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:51:24 -0400 Subject: Response to B-man I think the B-man is absolutely right when he says that a lot of bickering and bitching goes on in this newsgroup.Whenever I see a post with someone bitching about something I just skip right over it and only read the things of value.I love reading things that make me learn more about the band and related stuff.If it weren't for this newsgroup I would have never know about Rachel Barton's cover of TSOR or Silver Sun's cover of Xanadu etc. I think you guys get my drift.We should all just be happy that Rush is still together and still very relevant in the music industry.Think about it... Al ---------------------------------------------------------- From: The Fantabulous George Reimers <ferndoc@rocketmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The back of signals In case you don't already know, the back of signals is a map of a fictional Subdivision. On the back of signals we see such wonderful things as: Olde Dirk Road Lerxst Mall Line Drive Warren Cromartie secondary school And off to the side are such organizations as: The Borough of Schmeng B.J. Pratt and associates Nütz, Putts & Schutzfink And, of course the mandatory 2112 in the lower right hand corner. George === "A-ha. Sha-la" -U2 Visit Pete's cats' home page at http://www.angelfire.com/ok/walrusmaker Love does not consist in gazing at each other, but in looking outward together in the same direction. - Antoine de aint-Exupery ---------------------------------------------------------- From: KOPTIS@webtv.net (Mark J. Lanzilla) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:40:22 -0400 Subject: "WHATEVER"===THE MOVIE=== HEY ALL!!!!!! According to MOVIELINE MAGAZINE==== RUSH!!! HAS MADE THE SOUNDTRACK TO THIS INDIE MOVIE!!!!! the soundtrack is on TANGERINE!!!! the movie is to be released on JULY10th in NY &LA!!!! then spot shown in various cities=== ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Dittrich <rdittrich@conceptserv.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:47:14 -0500 Subject: Xanadu Speed - BLASPHEMY!! I don't know if this applies, but there is a studio trick used in the days of reel-to-reel analog recording that may be relevant. Often after repeated takes, wear and tear on the pipes can make it hard to hit those extra high or low notes. One method is to record the instruments, then dub in the vocals while playing the track at a slower speed. You sing along with the track, taking advantage of the now-slightly-lower pitch, then when the recording is played back at speed, the high note comes off fine. The same procedure could be done in reverse if a note was too low (for a prime example of *this*, listen to the end of "A Death In The Family" by Type O Negative). Of course, if they wanted, they could have just sped it up during the mix to get it to a certain pitch. Who knows. Inconclusively, Rob Dittrich ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Hansen <Eric@americanwebinc.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:04:26 -0600 Subject: Bitch-man Its too bad that the first NMS posting I should ever see by the b-man would be so disappointing. I would have been much more impressed if he could have made a positive contribution instead of complaining about what the NMS contains. Perhaps regaling us with a first hand experience from his time in the Rush camp. I guess if I had a "fall from grace" as he had, I would become bitter too. In the year I've been reading the NMS, however, I haven't seen much of what he complained about. I'm talking about the my sister's boyfriend's brother part. He also says there is slander about him, but I thought he said he "did" play the promo tape? Anyway... I agree with the b-man though that Rush has given us so much to celebrate that it is surprising how much people complain about them. No other band that I know of has sixteen studio albums, three live ones plus one in the hopper. Its hard to complain about that! Me, I'm a glass is half full kind of guy. If you don't like a disk or era of Rush, don't try so hard to dwell on it. Instead of posting what you don't like about Rush, post about something inspiring you may have recently found in an old Rush tune you've heard 111 times.;) Celebrate what they have done that has made such an impact on you. Also, people change, issues change and musical tastes change. What you don't like today may become very important to you tomorrow (I'm saying this from experience). And now back to more slander from the other 5,000+ Rush fans who combined don't know as much about Rush as the b-man! Hanstones "Though paradise is lost We will pay the price, But we will not count the cost" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: galahad77@juno.com (Ryan N Waggoner) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:20:54 -0500 Subject: The legal crap thing that's happenin'... Call me crazy, but I have this feeling that if we were to explain our position to the boys, they'd be more than willing to help us out by granting us that "express written consent". Though I've never had the pleasure of meeting them, from what I read on here, they seem as though they would be 3 perfectly reasonable individuals who would probably help us out. If not, well...at least we tried, and we can say that we talked to them. Has anyone tried this yet? Ryan/Stimpy "Someday we'll find it: the rainbow connection; the lovers, the dreamers, and me." Kermit the Frog ("The Rainbow Connection") Visit my page!! < http://members.xoom.com/rstimpyw/ > ---------------------------------------------------------- From: galahad77@juno.com (Ryan N Waggoner) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:33:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Track Speed on Xanadu >This, I'd say, is COMPLETELY impossible. I don't claim to know about >today's technology, but dealing with sound reproduction seems to be a >fairly simple concept--you have music which contains notes at a certain >frequency. If you change the speed of the music you change the >frequency of the notes (thus changing the # of waves per second), and >finally the pitch is affected. Not necessarily. It's *quite* possible to increase the speed, and then drop the pitch to make it sound like the song is in it's normal register. Anyone with the right programs on their PC can do it (though you can't really affect the speed, unless you simply double it). I know, because I did it once with "...And the Cradle Will Rock" by Van Halen. Recorded it as a .wav, saved it at double speed, and then opened it using a sound-board-type-thing I have which lets you adjust the pitch, volume, and balance of sounds, and dropped the pitch to the point where it was in it's normal register. Then, you have Van Halen as a punk band. :) Ryan/Stimpy "Someday we'll find it: the rainbow connection; the lovers, the dreamers, and me." Kermit the Frog ("The Rainbow Connection") Visit my page!! < http://members.xoom.com/rstimpyw/ > ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Finkel <sfinkel@qualcomm.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:36:02 -0700 Subject: replyto: bbbman Bill, By now I'm sure you've gotten a thousand or more replies to your offering in the "national midnight slander" as you call it. In fact, you probably don't even read them anymore. But I'm going to write this anyway. It is not a flame, just a reply. I don't speak for the entire "slander" list by any means. But I would like to say that most of the people that I've come into contact with on the NMS are fans much like yourself. (that's not intended as an insult, although it sounds like you might take it as one) For me, I ***LOVE*** Rush with abandon. I have for many, many years. There are no "bad" Rush songs, I agree with you there. But one thing I love about the NMS is its informality; most of the fans are willing to talk about or debate _anything_ to do with the band. Although you seem to believe otherwise based on NMS postings, most Rush fans are an intelligent lot. But as humans, we are all prone to occasional lapses, in this case in these lapses often take the form of lazy writing. I would hazard to guess that when someone on the NMS says a particular song is "bad," they mean "bad for Rush song," which still, in the minds of most Rush fans, means that said song is still 1000% better than mainstream pop music. As for your attitude, I, for one, wish that your arrogance was not so evident. Many fans used to regard you as a "fallen angel" of Rushdom. As you said, you made a mistake. Now you live with the consequences. Us fans realized this, and actually at one time (some of us, anyway) wished, however much in vain, that you and the band might at some point reconcile so that you could write more about them without trampling their wishes. (which I commend you for) However, now that you have unmasked yourself as being so completely arrogant and full of yourself, its NO WONDER the band shuns you! I wouldn't read your books now if you published them WITH the band's blessing. Your attitude in "MEMO FROM A HIGHER OFFICE" is appalling!! I wonder why, if you knew/know so much about the band you love with all your musical heart, why would you deliberately do what you did? Well, the only thing I can think of is that you DID know, and said to yourself, "f*ck 'em if they can't take a joke." Well, Bill, the joke is on you. Write your books. They won't sell. You've slandered yourself more completely now on the NMS than we who read it could ever have done. Because we realize that most of the postings there are rumour. You have now dispelled all rumour about your character. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Xanstar@aol.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 16:32:16 EDT Subject: Re: "Draft" for the 2112 edition There is a quote in "Good Morning Vietnam" that fits my view of this situation (please pardon if it's not the exact wording): "I used to stick up for you, Dick, because I thought you were a little bit crazy. But you're not crazy. You're mean. And this is just radio." After the sick and threatening emails I've gotten from this bbbman character, I had to respond to his post. This is completely ridiculous. He writes in NMS #2053: <<I subscribe to lists of many different bands, and it's really "sad" that the Rush list has the worst content of any of them, by far! It's nice to know that Black Sabbath fans are so much nicer. Their list (for the most part) concentrates on the positive elements of the band, while the NMS dwells on the negative, SAD!... Look to the POSITIVE, PEOPLE. Don't dwell on the negative! I know for some of you, this will be a hard concept to grasp, but give it a try! Who knows, you might even like it!>> But this is *after* he called me a slut, a FAT, ignorant slut in fact, in an email he decided to send me after a friend mistakenly made a post in my name. The situation was explained to him, be he obviously didn't care. We even offered to meet him in a chat room somewhere at the same time to prove we are different people. But he just continued to deride me in increasingly nasty emails. He insists he's seen me... but I wonder: *how* has he seen me? I've never seen *him*. This bothers me. A lot. And I'd like to set the record straight right here that yes, I am fat, I have always been fat, and by golly, that's just something I have to live with. I also have great legs and a pretty face, but hey. I'm fat, and by god, that's just the most horrible thing a person can be. I am also, however, an adult, and this is the first time in perhaps 10 years that someone has stooped to the level of making fun of my weight. Amazing maturity, there. He insisted I take all pictures from his book off my site since I didn't care for the way it was written. So I did. All three of the pictures scanned from Visions (of a total of nearly 30 on the site) are now gone. I guess being called a fat, pathetic bitch isn't particularly conducive to the free advertising he was getting on my site. Not too long after, he sent me email informing me of a conspiracy being planned by his friends to harm me physically. The actual mail was, by special request (and not Bill's request, btw), deleted from this post. But I think the gist of it is clear now. So much for kindness and harmony. Of course, you must realize that his *own post* can be applied to all of that "NMS posters dwell on the negative" stuff, not to mention the lovely mail he sent to me. And all this over a critical comment of his book that was unintentionally sent under my name by a good friend of mine who helps me with my mail. But even if I *did* write that criticism, I think this is going a bit too far. Maybe that's just me, though. And what if I *do* like the band Boston? Is that any call for obscene and insulting email? I think not. Oh, yes. He also insisted, in a crass and obscene manner, that I was slandering him by mentioning that he had advance copies of HYF and played them on the radio -- hence, his separation from the band. Basically, he told me that nothing of the sort ever happened, he never had any advance of anything, and that I was a fat (again) slanderous pig. But in the NMS post, he writes: <<Now, as far as the rumors are concerned, YES, I did play a demo on the radio before it's release. And I've NEVER denied such a fact. It would be awfully hard to deny something which thousands of people heard!>> Is it just me, or is there a discrepancy here? But bravo, Bill, for finally admitting your mistake publicly rather than slamming others for doing the same. I "know" this is the same person who has written to me because of the "very" distinctive way in which he writes (notice the quotes for emphasis), even though his email address doesn't show up on the list. I've avoided getting into this publicly until now, but this has got to stop. I used to stick up for you, Bill, because I thought you were a nice guy, if a little bit crazy. But unlike the guy in GMV, I still think you're crazy. However, I also think you're mean. And this is just a fan newsletter. I love Rush's music -- even the few songs I don't care for personally are, from a musician's point of view, extremely well-constructed lyrically and musically sound. I love what they stand for -- the songs *and* the band. And I, like a good many people on this list, am having a hard time waiting for the new live album to be released. Whatever personal problems you have that made you such a bitter person are more than likely no fault of anyone's on this list. Including me. I will continue to enjoy Rush's music, regardless of what you have to say about me or anyone else. I will do so until the band decides to call it quits -- and even then, I will continue to enjoy the music they put out during their career. A nutbar like you won't change that. BTW... if you want to get published again, I'd suggest working on your grammar and spelling. I know a lot of editors (I myself edit manuscripts for a living), and I don't know of a single one who would go through the effort of fixing every incorrect *apostrophe*, much less the spelling and structural problems, before publication. And that is *constructive* criticism, something I hope you can take like a man. Though given your prior correspondence with me, I'm not sure that's possible. And one other thing: "Only fags give other men their ponytails." That's a direct quote from someone who thinks you should remember it. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Will Holt" <holtwm@gte.net> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:42:43 -0400 Subject: Upside Down Crosses in HYF picture OK, I am not doing this for attention or anything and I definitely don't want to start a flame war. But, has anyone else noticed the crosses (some upside down) in the balls of fire that the man is juggling in the HYF picture? I have this bitmap on my Windows desktop right now and they are so obvious (especially in the one on the left). I have a poster of this image and they are really obvious there as well. Someone else must have noticed them. Just asking and sorry if this offends anyone. And no, I don't think Rush is satanic because of this. Then again maybe I'm just seeing things... Will ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "The Voice Of Silence" <tvos@mailexcite.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:50:31 -0700 Subject: Red Wings/Rush & Stanely Cup Music To who cares, Was watching the Stanley Cup finals between Wings & Caps. Game #3 played FreeWill, and game #4 played FreeWill and Tom Sawyer. Thought it was a nice touch.. -- The Voice Of Silence ______________________________________ I Am Made From The Dust Of The Stars And The Oceans Flow In My Veins ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Slim Jim <jg@ms.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:55:44 +0100 Subject: Re: Page/Plant/Seattle ROCKS/Troy McClure >>>>> Brent Hitterdal writes: > IMO Hemispheres/Permanent Waves/Moving Pictures were the best > three consecutive albums ever put out by any band - anyone else > with a favorite sound that Rush (or another band) developed > over a few albums? I like almost all of their stuff, but that > era is when what they liked playing was closest to what I like > to listen to (moods aside). Yes, that stuff was the "real" Rush. I think COS & 2112 count too. Difficult for me to discount those two because I was a fan before Hemispheres was recorded. Although I enjoy one or two of the post-Signals albums, they don't have the indefinable magic that makes great Rush great. Even Moving Pictures contains a hint or two of the -relative- mediocrity to come. If they hadn't released AFTK, which was rather poor IMO, they would have released FOUR incredible albums in a row, starting from 2112. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Dom Kallas <dkallas@emerald.tufts.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Rush and Boston- the band To me, Rush is a far more substantial rock band than Boston since Rush have spent the past twenty-plus years creating awesome songs and performing. However, Boston's first two albums are quality pieces which served to alter the course of rock music. Tom Scholz and his crew had put a considerable amount of effort in getting those songs to sound great- just consider the rolling, catchy melodies, multiple-layered guitar harmonies, and the nondescript but solid rhythm section. While it is true that, in 1976, Queen were already established pioneers in the art of multi-tracking, Genesis and others were raising rock songwriting to new standards, and Rush were making tracks in the music business on their own terms, Boston succeeded in making big sounding rock albums that appealed to a great number of people. In other words, those albums were artistic without being artsy. Moreover, one can hear a song by Boston from that period and _know_ that it's Boston, even twenty years later. Are those reasons to begrudge Boston? I don't think so. If you are a Rush fan who digs rock music with melody and/or structure, definitely check out Boston's self titled album or "Don't Look Back". ________________________________________________________________________________ and the world so hard to understand is the world you can't live without Smashing Pumpkins "muzzle" ________________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: sara olson <sara.olson@snet.net> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:17:06 +0000 Subject: EXTRA SUPER 2112 TURBO BOOST TAPE In reference to the posts Max and Alex had (# 2054)- I agree that the Super 2112 tape is very, very posh, and I can not wait to make this tape-I would never have thought to make it . Thanks for the heads up.. I'm not giving in To security under pressure I'm not missing out On the promise of adventure I'm not giving up On implausible dreams- Experience to extremes- Experience to extremes ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Wodarcyk <danw@thetech.org> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:32:48 -0700 Subject: Spare us-PLEASE!!!! b-man wrote: > I am currently working on a couple of non-Rush related book >idea's. Believe it or not, my fascinating life goes far beyond "the >greatest band in the world." There are so many good stories, that have >nothing whatsoever to do with Rush. Please, no mas, no mas! "Visions" was more than enough. There are only so many fish in the world that need wrapping! Dan Wodarcyk, Exhibit Designer The Tech Museum of Innovation danw@thetech.org (408) 279-7190 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Crowell" <ncrowell@jlc.net> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:30:31 -0400 Subject: Lawyers, copyrights, and expression.. I know how most of you must feel about Rush's lawyers objections, but at one level I have to agree with them; property is property. It should have nothing to do with the demand for the item, its popularity, or its producer's ability to afford its loss. I'm not saying Rush is "losing" real $$$, but by turning a blind eye to unauthorized use of copyrighted material which *they* made, they are definitely losing something... And actually, the Ayn Rand crew should b against piracy. She had very clear views on the matter of intellectual property. I don't claim to have never obtained or sanctioned "piracy" of copywritten material, but I also don't believe that it is justified. Don't make the rookie mistake in logical discourse of using my lack of purity as an argument to refute my assertions. I think that people who feel that they can do anything they want with a celebrity's property, i.e. music recordings, video clips, etc. because they feel "entitled" to its use as a fan would feel very different if they were the producer of the work. I have a feeling also that if Rush's legal apparatus had been asked in advance for permission to use the material for the non-commercial benefit of loyal fans that they might have been (somewhat) accomodating. Some may feel this is a naive expectation, but it's just my opinion. Rush's legal group is no doubt accustomed to dealing with people who are blatently making profits using unauthorized merchandise. Nate ------------------------------------------------------------- Nathan C. Crowell Metal Casting Technology, Inc. Milford, NH e-mail: ncrowell@jlc.net ----------------------------------------------------------
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