The National Midnight Star #203

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 04/02/91 - The National Midnight Star #203
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 203 Tuesday, 2 April 1991 Today's Topics: Time I spoke up! "Power Windows", Posters (& backstage club), Chronicles video (none) Rivendell RUSH Profiled Fancy Dancer, Kerr, and other things more zeppelin sound alikes! PRESTO and OTHER POLLS!! By-Tor "guitar solo" Subdivisions concert poll lyrics to Free Will VH Rush X-Pictures musical quotes Whoops! ---------------------------------------------------------- [ Sorry folks, this item would have gone over much better yesterday, but arrived after the issue had been compiled. Note: for time-sensitive material, make sure you have it in by 12:00 EST on the day you want it posted. :rush-mgr ] Date: Mon, 1 Apr 91 16:01:17 -0500 From: npeart@rush.anthem.com Subject: Time I spoke up! Hello...I have been reading this list for some time now, and I must say Get A life! Nah, I'm just joking. Seriously, I would like to know what time it says on my watch too. Also, could anyone tell me what I meant when I wrote "Christ, what have you done?"... Thanks a lot! Neil Peart Oh, By the way, APRIL FOOLS!!! ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: "Power Windows", Posters (& backstage club), Chronicles video Date: Mon, 01 Apr 91 19:01:29 EST From: mjkobb@media-lab.media.mit.edu Greetings! Three things on the agenda today: I was just reading all the discussion of "Power Windows" as referring to computer windowing systems. Well, maybe, but considering the album cover (with all the TVs), it's always made more sense to me that the TV's are the "Power Windows" -- i.e. they're a "window on the world" that you have to plug in. (q.v. "Activate the window and watch the world go 'round."). Maybe this has already been brought up, but I missed it if if was. Next, I'm trying to find Rush posters. I've had no success in Boston at all (Lots of LedZep, Grateful Dead, and New Kids (:-P), but no Rush). Is this one of the things to be had from the backstage club, and if so, which ones do they have? I've just purchased my FIFTH (yes, 5) copy of the Chronicles video. It, like the preceding four, is defective. It has a glitch in the middle of "Closer to the Heart", and another in "Limelight". I'm really tired of hauling these damned things back. Anybody know how I can get in touch with Polygram to see about getting a new one? Thanks! --Mike ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Apr 91 19:17:52 -0500 From: franks@ecn.purdue.edu (Richard M Franks) Hello- Just a few random babblings from a deranged mind- 1) All this talk of influences. If anybody out there has "Jailbreak" by Thin Lizzy, listen to the 2nd side. The solos for "The Cowboy Song" and "Emerald" sound like they could have been played by Mr. Lifeson himself. Don't know if it's Alex borrowing from Brian Robertson or vice versa, or just common influences, but the resemblance is striking. Dunno, maybe I'm just crazy, let me have your opinion. (about the solos that is 8-b) 2) In the videos from Moving Pictures (the ones taped at LeStudio) there is a white doubleneck, (a Rik bass/12-string). However, I have only seen Geddy playing a black one (ESL video and live in '81 {or was it '82}). Has anyone ever seen the white one live? I think you can see it in the background in one of the pictures from Permanent Waves, also. Bye- Rich Franks franks@en.ecn.purdue.edu franksrm@sage.cc.purdue.edu Purdue University Engineering Compter Network Hardware Maintenance These opinions are all mine, mine, mine, MINE! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1991 19:26 EST Subject: Rivendell From: "Charles <S3SIJDP@SAE.TOWSON.EDU>" <S3SIJDP@SAE.TOWSON.EDU> Just a short note to answer David Conley's question about Rivendell: I'm pretty certain that Geddy is playing the classical guitar in that song. Aleis playing the little "swelling" notes in the background with an electric guitar by using the volume knob. He also does this in By Pass, like Steve Kilpatrick said where it sounded sort of like Page's bowing. [ A scaled-back version is found in the intro to La Villa ... :rush-mgr ] In "Beyond Borders" Alex sounds just like a violin section by using a volume pedal and effects. -Charles Grogan p.m.s.- Yeah! Where is that guitar synth in Hemipheres anyway? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: chip%thumper.pcc.com@griffin.UVM.EDU (Chip Hart) Subject: RUSH Profiled Date: Mon, 1 Apr 91 20:00:17 EST kmarino@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes: > > Now only five weeks after that, I have the CD listened to it twice and only > shelled out 9 bucks. "If you are the fool that sold it back, THANKS" Well, the fool who stole it was either a record rep for Atlantic or worked in a radio station. Essentially, someone made $5 for music he probably didn't care for (now THAT'S where he's foolish...). > > Rush-mgr-- is there a transcript at the FTP sight? If not, I could be talked > into transcribing it sometime in the next couple of weeks. Lemme know! And, ah, I'd be happy to help as well, as soon as I can grab my copy back from a friend who "borrowed" it.... So I guess that goes to all out there: do you all want a transcription of the thing? I'm sure K. and I can split the task soon (feel free to drop me a line, Keith). Oh, and if Presto isn't their best album since Subdivisions, I'm sick. Am I only the ONLY person out there who cannot STAND ASOH? [ Before you get up in arms, read his later post, Subject: Whoops! :rush-mgr ] -- Chip Hart ------------------------- chip@pcc.com |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-| People's Computer Co. ------------------------- Williston, Vermont I make love to mountain lions... - Lemmy Kilmiester ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Apr 91 22:10:03 -0500 From: linus@ritcsh.rit.edu (linus vanpelt (Shirley the Loon tab user)) Subject: Fancy Dancer, Kerr, and other things Does anyone have a copy of Fancy Dancer? I'm willing to send a tape, and pay for postage both ways. Thanks Earlier I posted something about liking the writings of Katherine Kerr. Since then I've received quite a few letters asking it I meant Katherine Kurtz. Well, they are two separate people. I haven't read Kurtz (yet!). Lastly... Seeing By-tor and the Snowdogs live in concert would be great. Does anyone know if The Necromancer was ever done live (in part or in whole)? [ Hasn't been done live in any show played in Wash. DC since '79. :rush-mgr ] later linus vanpelt ORQ " " - YYZ * Linus VanPelt * In life there are very few securities. * linus@ritcsh.csh * * .rit.edu * Gimme my blanket. * * ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Apr 91 21:22 CST From: B619ZAW@UTARLG.UTA.EDU Subject: more zeppelin sound alikes! Well... Can anyone identify the zeppelin song that sounds EXACTLY like the guitar part to Beneath, Between and Behind? It is also a remarkable similarity... Although it is really pushing it, there is a very remote resemblance between the synth part to Kashmir and the synth part in the middle of YYZ... Also, Farewell to Kings is not even close to Stairway to Heaven... "Another toy that helped destroy the elder race of man" --Priests of the temples of Syrinx --Rush ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Apr 91 13:46:19 +1000 From: Stuart Raymond Mills <stum@cs.su.oz.au> Subject: PRESTO and OTHER POLLS!! Firstly, the results of the Presto poll will be released in ISSUE 204!!! Secondly, with reference to **RUSH FAVORITES POLL RESULTS** as posted by kmarino@bonnie.ics.uci.edu I cannot **B E L I E V E** that A Farewell To Kings is the all time FAvourite album!!!!!!!! I must say some of the other choices (eg : Open Secrets from HYF) are a bit odd aswell!! Oh well, just my opinion....andbody else agree!!?? The ONLY two I agree with are Bastille Day (easy winner) from COS and Distant Early Warning from P/G....!! As for favourite song performed live....its GOT to be Spirit Of Radio off ESL. Anyway, enough bagging out other peoples polls!! The result sof the Presto poll are very intersting, although there does seem to be SOME direction!! To make is statistically better I need more votes!!! (I have ~40 at the moment) VOTE NOW: Top 4 songs in order on Presto!! Thirdly, I need info on the backstage club. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *********** stum@minnie.cs.su.OZ.AU *********** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *********** UNIVERSITY OF SYDNEY *********** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *********** "Todays Tom Sawyer, mean mean guy....." *********** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: By-Tor "guitar solo" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 91 20:14:15 CST From: David Sandberg <plains!quad.sialis.com!dts@uunet.UU.NET> Steve Kilpatrick <ST402658@brownvm.brown.edu> writes: > listening to the live ATWAS version of By-Tor and the Snow Dog > and was struck by the middle 'weird guitar solo' section... > ... Is Alex using a bow in this song? I believe Alex just used a volume pedal and lots of echo effects on that. The slow chords are just a matter of playing the chord and then fading it in, and then fading it out and letting the echo fill in the space while you're starting the next chord. And as far as the other effects are concerned, it's amazing what strange noises can be dragged out of a guitar when you do things like scrape the strings or tap on the pickup while your echo and distortion are jacked to the ceiling. (Caveat: I never saw him play it live, either. But I always liked that section, and worked hard to emulate it in yesteryear.) -- \*=- David Sandberg, dts@quad.sialis.com ,=, ,=, -=*\ \*=- "atomized at the core - or | |uadric `=,ystems -=*\ \*=- through the astral door to soar" `=\ `=' -=*\ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Apr 91 10:10:13 EST From: joezete@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter John Chestna) Subject: Subdivisions Hello again, party update, please stand by... I spoke to the basist from Subdivisions(the Rush cover band to play at dear old Zeta Psi on April 13) and I gave him a song list that I wanted to hear, and they may play all of it. It includes: Natural Science The Fountain Of Lamneth(all of it!) Between the Wheels La Villa Strangiato Freewill 2112 Xanadu I think I'm Going Bald Presto Superconductor Working Man Analog Kid New World Man Jacobs Ladder Cygnus X-1, Book II(complete) and several other classic RUSH songs. A word about the rules for the little party: 1. Bring as many people as you want, I want to pack the place with several hundred RUSH fans. I just need to know how many you are going to bring with you. 2. This is a BYOB party by school rules and We are limiting each person to a half case or 1 bottle. Please RSVP me as soon as you know how many people you are bringing and I will e-mail you the details. see you there!!!!! Pete Chestna (joezete@wpi.wpi.edu) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Apr 91 10:13:48 EST From: joezete@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter John Chestna) Subject: concert poll I will be compiling the results from my concert poll over this weekend, so if any of you have a concert list that you want to include in the vote, e-mail me this week! Thanx to all who have participated thus far, response has been great. Pete Chestna (joezete@wpi.wpi.edu) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: yackob@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca Date: 2 Apr 91 10:17 -0600 Subject: lyrics to Free Will >X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.1 10/31/90) In yesterday's NMS, jcrabtree@desire.wright.edu asked about an apparent contradiction between the lyrics to Free Will, as they are sung and as they are printed on the inner sleeve. In the lyrics for Free Will, it is printed as the following: "If you choose not to decide, you still haven't made a choice". However, when I listen to the song, it sounds like Geddy sings the following: "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice". Our lovely and talented moderator reminds us that "The answer is sort of "we're both right". The lyrics *sung* are "you still have made a choice", and on my sleeve from PeW it says "you cannot have made a choice". When Neil was asked about this discrepency in the Backstage Club newsletter a few issues ago, he said that all lyrics are sung just as they are in the lyric sheet. Bzzzz. Not quite Neil!" The lyric sheet to my album (on Anthem Records - the Canadian release) has the words as "you still have made a choice". It could be Neil Peart looked at the inner sleeve of the Canadian release, decided that all these Americans asking about a discrepancy between the printed and recorded lyrics were sniffing glue, and no one in charge of fixing the mistake in the US release was notified. Is this plausible? [ Whoosh, I didn't even consider that the lyrics would be *printed differently* in the US vs. Canada! The Mercury version (original pressing even, NOT a reissue) does NOT have "still have made a choice". Well, one mystery solved, another one started! :rush-mgr ] -- Kerry Yackoboski <yackob@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca> The Scanning Tunneling Microscopy Laboratory in the Cellar U of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------- From: telxon!teleng!dank@uunet.UU.NET (Dan Kelley) Subject: VH Date: Tue, 2 Apr 91 11:15:00 EST Ok, I know I shouldn't ask this but I need to know if there is a Van Halen mailing list. I did not notice one in the listing that was sent a while back which included a whole slew of musical mailing lists. Does anyone know? (This request comes in favor of a friend that I work with, not me. Rush and Rush ONLY for me :-). Thanks much, Dan... -- Dan Kelley || ...!uunet!telxon!dank || dank%telxon@uunet.uu.net Telxon Corporation || 3330 W. Market St. || "... Saddam Hussain will get his a** kicked." Akron, OH 44313 || - Pres. Bush on Pursian Gulf crisis ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Apr 91 15:16:33 -0500 From: danmcd@zip.eecs.umich.edu Subject: Rush X-Pictures Are there any digitized pictures out there that are bigger than 320x200? I ask this because I'd like a sweet shot of Neil's drums that is big enough to cover most of the background of my Sun SPARCstation. Thanks in advance! Dan McD. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1991 15:30:02 EST From: GORMAN@SCRI1.SCRI.FSU.EDU Subject: musical quotes Speaking of musical phrases quoted by Rush, how about this little number... Compare every fourth bar of "In the End" with the intro to Focus' "Hamburger Concerto" (Anyone remember Focus? Thijs van Leer,Jan Akkerman, etc.? Their entire collection is available on 8 import CDs, BTW). That only makes one more link in a chain, though. The very same intro quotes a Hungarian folk tune :-) -Bryan Gorman gorman@scri1.scri.fsu.edu gorman@fsuhep.physics.fsu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: chip%thumper.pcc.com@griffin.UVM.EDU (Chip Hart) Subject: Whoops! Date: Tue, 2 Apr 91 15:15:31 EST Oh! I just realized that I said I hated ASOH in an earlier message...I meant HYF! ASOH is very good -- live Subdivisions! I can't stand HYF though. I don't want to get flamed for disliking the wrong album! ORQ: "...of lighted streets on a quiet night." -- Chip Hart ------------------------- chip@pcc.com |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-| People's Computer Co. ------------------------- Williston, Vermont I make love to mountain lions... - Lemmy Kilmiester ---------------------------------------------------------- From: David Arnold <davida@syrinx.umd.edu> Subject: What I'd like to see Any other out there long for a return of Cygnus X-1? I remember seeing it on the Hemispheres tour; pitch black in the arena, suddenly Geddy's bass erupts into the opening lines at full volume - no fade in. Made for a great effect, with the stage lights flashing only on the snare hits for the first few lines, coming up full when they got past the pauses between lines. *sigh* The good old days... David Arnold Keywords: Rush, Jethro Tull, Crack the Sky, Squeeze, BOC, Neville Brothers, Peter Gabriel, Pink Floyd, Inet: davida@syrinx.umd.edu Talking Heads, King Crimson, Rolling Stones, UUCP: uunet!syrinx.umd.edu!davida Police, ELP, Grass Roots, Hollies, Guess Who OBRQ: "Ooh, kids, this next song is so scary you'll want to pull your own head off!" - Geddy ----------------------------------------------------------
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