The National Midnight Star #197

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 03/21/91 - The National Midnight Star #197
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 197 Thursday, 21 March 1991 Today's Topics: Administrivia Poll ends 3/21, stay tuned ... Re: 03/20/91 - The National Midnight Star #196 Geddy's Guitars? New guy wants suggestions. lyrics-drugs-the-devil-and-me-and-my-$.02... (none) Broons Bane and Open Secrets Broon's Bane Marillion, Anthem (Rand), etc. Yo! MTV Raps Passage To Bangkok N.S.F. computer users and Rush fans, part 1 Innuendo/Show of hands Re: 03/20/91 - The National Midnight Star #196 Dionysis and Apollo/Hemispheres reply to adam williams in australia... Rush-Metallica Connection? (none) Neil speaks out ddd vs. aad ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Editor, National Midnight Star <rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu> Subject: Administrivia For starters today, Syrinx was supposed to go down for a while beginning at 14:55 EST on Thursday, 3/21/91 for a replacement of the hard disk. Due to problems with the new hard disk (operating system wouldn't re-load), Syrinx was down from about 15:00 EST Thursday until about 13:00 EST Friday. If mail bounced, or you got strange (duplicate) mail from Syrinx, please ignore or resend (whichever is apropriate) and hopefully things will be back to normal now. The upshot of this is that this is the NMS for Thursday, 3/21/91, even though it won't get to you until sometime Friday. The regular Friday mailing should go out normally, or possibly a little later than normal. Also, since some mail arrived between the time the system was backed up and when it was actually taken down, some mail may have been lost. If you sent mail between 10:00 EST Thursday, check this issue to see if your mail made it here. I noticed there is a personal message in todays NMS. While this is not a horribly bad thing because of the situation, if you have problems getting in touch with somebody on the list, drop me a line and I'll try to see what the problem is. I have everybody's official (for mailing purposes) address; if mail is or isn't getting to them, I'll know. I may also be able to offer alternative paths to them. On one occasion, I was asked if I was having problems with a particular address, and I was. This indicated a problem at the receiving site, not the senders'. rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Poll ends 3/21, stay tuned ... From: MGOODWIN@maine.maine.edu (J. MICHAEL GOODWIN) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 15:52:24 EST The responses have slowed to a trickle, so I'll tally the results Thursday for Friday's NMS. No surprises in first and second place, but, ahh, the third place finisher (who woulda thunk it) .... Mike Goodwin ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: 03/20/91 - The National Midnight Star #196 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 18:52:02 EST From: derek@leah.Albany.edu! I've always thought the last two "lines" of Didacts and Narpets were "Left! Right!" "Who's right?!" But I don't think anyone'll ever know for sure... certainly the intention was to illustrate some form of conflict. Continuing the lyrical nitpicking, Second Nature is definitely an example of the stuff that grates: the "folks have got to make choices" verse is very contrived. It's not helped by the fact that the music isn't too interesting. On the other hand, "Prime Mover" also has uninspired lyrics, but the music is great, especially the synth backing. Most of HYF has very layered, "rich" music -- Time Stand Still, Tai Shan, Prime Mover, Turn the Page, etc... On a meta-level, I think discussing what we DON'T like about Rush is just as fun, and definitely more interesting, than just re-hashing old questions and debating ambiguities -- at least until the album and tour are announced! We're all fans, and we have a lot in common, but that doesn't mean we should always agree. I can't think of much that bugs me about the boyz, but if anything comes up I'll be sure to let y'all know. :-) (Oh, and Randall, I picked up the Elvis Costello "Girls"*3 double-CD the other day and I've been playing it incessantly...) Derek L. -- derek@albnyvms.bitnet <> derek@leah.albany.edu ====}=---------------` Fencers love to touch '-----------------={==== "Cinderella man... hang on to your plans..." ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Geddy's Guitars? Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 15:45:04 WET From: Moschops <M.ODonnell@computing-services.thames.ac.uk> Hi folks, Over the yesrs I have seen pictures of Geddy plying a Double neck Guitar/Bass ( I believe the necks are strung with a bass on the upper neck and a standard guitar neck on the lower ). Could anybody tell me which songs he used it on. [ From memory, they used it on the Hemispheres tour for "Xanadu", and maybe "In The End". It was interesting seeing Geddy and Alex both with double-necked guitar/bass. Neither has used it for the past several tours. :-( :rush-mgr ] I think I can hear a second guitar during Alex's solo in "Passage to Bangkok" on ESL. Does anybody know anyting about the guitars that Alex has used on recent tours.( I think they are made by a company called Signature? ) Also while I'm here. Does anybody know of a Queensryche music board/digest? Moschops ======== -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael O'Donnell | Thats " Moschops " | to my friends!! Janet : om1ey1@uk.ac.thames.csc | I love Rush, Queensryche (or) M.ODonnell@uk.ac.thames.csc | and most Rock/Metal | Bands ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Langsam's Laws: 1) Everything depends. 2) Nothing is always. 3) Everything is sometimes. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: sct60a.sunyct.edu!buck@sct60a.sunyct.edu (Jesse R. Buckley, Jr.) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1991 19:22:49 EST Subject: New guy wants suggestions. I've just bought and listened to my first 'real' Rush CD. (Real meaning really listened.) It is Presto, maybe you've heard of it? ;-) I'm looking for some suggestions as for some order of stuff to buy. I don't have a lot of money otherwise I'd buy them all. Thanks. [ I can guarantee right now that you'll get at least 10 responses, all different. Personally I'd suggest _Moving Pictures_, _Grace Under Pressure_, and for older stuff, _Fly By Night_ and _All The World's A Stage_. If you're like most of us, it's just a matter of time until you have them all... :rush-mgr ] -- -Buck (buck@sct60a.sunyct.edu) "So this is a leap second?" -- Me at 6:59:60 pm on Mon Dec 31, 1990 ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 19:46:13 -0500 From: jah14@po.CWRU.Edu (Jonathan A. Horvath) Subject: lyrics-drugs-the-devil-and-me-and-my-$.02... Well, yesterday I wrote about the transition from Broone's Bane to the Trees [I see a lot of people agreed with me] and today I thought I share a bit about lyrics. Many of my poem have been compared to those of RUSH [some say that Neil would be envious] and I must say that I've never done drugs nor do I have any association with the devil [I don't really believe in one, but that's a bigger theological argument (I'm a Philosophy of Religion major at Case Western Reserve University)]. Anyhow, the other thoughts that we [I] call altered states of consciousness can be experienced by a form of meditation [as you all know Neil is in to the Far East and its culture], which being natural is far more enlightening than anything else [I have friend who use anything you can think of] and they are not as bizarre and insightful in their thought as I am. Someday I'll post an argument on how there are things today if at one time nothing existed [nothing at all, no god, no darkness, no empty void, just nothing; try to comprehend that] if there's any interest [please reply] I will post it, its really quite fascinating. Well, anyway the point is, that these thoughts are not influenced by anything other than my own abstract [sub] consciousness which I often come in touch with [even during class, which is really cool, it only takes me about a minute of meditation, so I do it often, classes tend to get dull!!] Well, I have to go, have two exams to type up [1 Buddhism exam and 1 Japanese Religions] so pity me, I pity thee. Catch ya all tomorrow. Jon [sorry about the simplicity of the sig file, I was just advertising for my bands tape, I'll change it to something a little more subconscious] later -- "...And the end is just some distant illusion, and the answer- just some fading delusion. I tried to break this wall, but I can't get through. I can't accept it anymore..." from ANOTHER SHATTERED DREAM written by me, perforemed by Overture [my band] Jon ENGL/RLGN JAH14 write for a tape... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 20:06:35 PST From: Eric Rescorla <rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu> >ALSO.. does anyone know why in _Hemispheres_ that Dyonisis was used for >the argument for the heart and not Aphrodite? I thought Dyonisis was the >Bringer of wine? maybe my mythology is going bad.. I don't remember the origin of this idea, but in literary and social discussion, it is common to contrast "Appolonian" and "Dionysian" mentalities. Specifically, Appolonian refers to logic, (for obvious reasons) while Dionysius, as the God of Wine, (and by extension the God of emotion, frenzy, etc(read the Bacchai)) represents emotionality. Hence, the battle of heart and mind. I think that this theme is in either Nietszche( Geneology of Morals) or Rand(Atlas Shrugged) though I think Nietszche. This would be consistent with what we know of Neil's reading list. In any case, this is the idea. Aphrodite is SOLELY the Goddess of Love....Dionysius took on the more general emotional idea. -eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Rescorla rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu Yale University Department of Chemistry rescorla@psun.chem.yale.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Schiller <chris@cdc.hp.com> Subject: Broons Bane and Open Secrets Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 17:15:57 PST >Evan Bjorn Ingersoll <ingersol@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> writes: > Subject: Broon's Bane + $.02 > I just saw Chris Schiller's post on Broon's Bane and thought I should > throw in two cents. I would argue that BB has got to be the intro > to *something*. [...] Ah, I see I got the theorists and players out of their seats. Why didn't you speak up before and save me from the blowtorches? :-) I have only played a relatively short time, so I can't quite bring all of the musical elements together yet. Thanks for all of the educated opinions. > [...] > Most Heinous Example: "some of them burned on our cielings." Really, > now, that's stretching a bit far. > [...] > Feelings-cielings-feelings-cielings-feelings-cielings-aaaaaaaaaaaaaa! It sounds to me like you think that in the verse: Well I guess we all have these feelings We can't leave unreconciled Some of them burned on our ceilings Some of them learned as a child the "ceilings" line was invented to rhyme with "feelings". I had a hard time understanding this line until Christine Blasko (Hi Christine) told me what she thought of it. The real meaning of the verse is revealed in the last two lines. I interpret them as "some of the feelings are in our genes and some are from our environment." The "burned on our ceilings" part I now think refers to cave paintings of our far ancestors. Which line came first is a little irrelevent to me once I see that the first line is needed for context, but the third has such an imaginative interpretation. Your argument would be valid if the third line had little or no meaning. Standard discaimer about my humble opinions apply. Hmmmm....how about Well I guess we all have these feelings We can't leave unreconciled Some learned while we popped our wheelies Some of them learned when we were wild :-) Chris Schiller chris@cdc.hp.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 18:28:03 MST From: fpeabody@isis.cs.du.edu (Fred Peabody) Subject: Broon's Bane I've been playing guitar for almost two years now, and one of the first pieces I wanted my teacher to teach me was Broon's Bane. Being a classical/ folk guitarist, he wasn't terribly familiar with Rush, but figured the whole song out in a few minutes. [I brought my ESL tape with me] He said something to the effect that the guitarist was probably making it up as he went along, as the song has a weak structure. I disagree on both counts, and BB is one of my current "showpieces" to show people I can play guitar. Anyhow, the way I play it, the last chord is a Gm. [Fingered similar to a folk G chord, but with the lowered 3rd and a D added on the second string. Since I never thought of the piece as "complete" I figured out the intro to the Trees, which is easier to play. I still gotta figure out the awesome classical into for A Farewell to Kings, which a friend of mine knows how to play... Any other guitarists out there who like doing original composition? If so, let me know! [FP] ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 22:24:04 EST From: UK01778@ukpr.uky.edu Subject: Marillion, Anthem (Rand), etc. I realize this is a Rush base but I'd like to say some things about and ask some things about one of their greatest opening acts (whom I never got to see live.) Marillion, if you haven't already heard them, is IMO a great, great band. I've noticed the subject on here is about passion in writing. I think Marillion wrote some of the most passionate music this planet has ever and will ever see(n). I strongly recommend picking up their live CD "The Thieving Magpie", it's a good sampler of all their best work. If you can sit and listen to all of Misplaced Childhood or "Sugar Mice" and not bat an eye then I would be amazed. Question: Call me uninformed, but what does Slainte Mhath mean? Aside from being a very good Marillion Song? 2nd: Anthem, the song, may be based on Anthem, the Ayn Rand novella. I've not started reading it yet (still working on her first book We the Living (<--- great so far)) but it seems to be about a person caught in a conforming society who dares to be an individual. Thus, "Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for" might start to sound like an ok concept. Now Go and buy some Marillion tapes....NOW!! :) Al OMQ (Obligatory Marillion Quote. Sorry Rush mgr :)) "But when it comes right down to it there's no use trying to pretend. For when it gets right down to it there's no one really left to blame Blame it on me. We're just sugar mice in the rain." "Sugar Mice" == Marillion ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 14:04:40 EST From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer) Subject: Yo! MTV Raps >From: <UN040461%WVNVAXA.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> (mephistopheles) > >A friend of mine told me a couple of months back that he saw "Yo! MTV >Crap (ups. those darn typos)" Anyway, Dr. Moron and the fat guy apologised >on the show to Rush, their manager, and their record label. Does anyone Since I obviously watch the show even less than you do (that is to say, never), who the hell are "Dr. Moron and the fat guy"? [ Gee, they sound like the two guys from Mystery Science Theatre 3000! :-) :rush-mgr ] * From the disk of: | jms@vanth.uucp | "Speeding through the Jim Shaffer, Jr. | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | universe, Thinking is 37 Brook Street | uunet!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms | the best way to travel." Montgomery, PA 17752 | 72750.2335@compuserve.com | (The Moody Blues) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 14:01:22 EST From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer) Subject: Passage To Bangkok >From: jpb8@po.CWRU.Edu (Jeffrey P. Bodner) > >And since we're talking about the satanic side of RUSH, am I the only >one who sees "Passage to Bankok" as about drugs? If you read the lyrics >carefully, their are several references to smoke and the like. While No, you're not the only one. I understood it the first time I heard it. But I don't care about it. Drugs aren't evil, just some of the people taking them are. Rush apparently don't fall into that category, so what they do/did is their own business. -- * From the disk of: | jms@vanth.uucp | "Speeding through the Jim Shaffer, Jr. | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | universe, Thinking is 37 Brook Street | uunet!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms | the best way to travel." Montgomery, PA 17752 | 72750.2335@compuserve.com | (The Moody Blues) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 13:38:11 EST From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer) Subject: N.S.F. >the video's on a *Monopoly*-like board, with the 'free parking' corner >reading 'N.S.F.'. And unless I'm missing a more obvious reference, >that could very easily refer to the National Science Foundation, I was wondering what that was too when I saw the video. I remember thinking, "Gee, that can't be the National Science Foundation, what the heck is it?" So I looked in my dictionary and I found an entry for "Not Sufficient Funds," which seems to fit the "Monopoly" theme. (You can't reproduce the board exactly, because it's copyrighted.) * From the disk of: | jms@vanth.uucp | "Speeding through the Jim Shaffer, Jr. | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | universe, Thinking is 37 Brook Street | uunet!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms | the best way to travel." Montgomery, PA 17752 | 72750.2335@compuserve.com | (The Moody Blues) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 13:55:13 EST From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer) Subject: computer users and Rush fans, part 1 >From: Randall Stark (PhD 90/RA) <rstark@aipna.edinburgh.ac.uk> > >song, but I do find the lyrics overly explicit: "You can do a lot in a >lifetime/if you don't burn out too fast/...../first you need endurance/first >you gotta last" and nearly all the others ("Its not how fast you can go", >pick up the beat/forget about the heat","you can miss a stride/but no one >gets a free ride"). When I was in college, the senior editor of the engineering students' monthly magazine quoted "Marathon" in his final editorial, as an example of how you've got to balance your life to get through college. It worked well. >off on the lyrics (I remember my high school girlfriend made up a big >calligriphy poster of "Somthing for Nothing", my favorite), but as my I made up something similar with Freewill, only since my skills as an artist are nil, I did it with a fancy font and my word processor. :-) ----- >From: Dan Dickerman GSY 1-447-4425 <dickermn@hpcugsya.cup.hp.com> > >machines. But there is a definite link between the electronics industry >and Rush fans. What about Rush lyrics like: > >"Activate the window/ And watch the world go round" - Prime Mover Actually I heard this last one a few years before I ever had a decent computer, and it took me a long time to make the connection. But someone suggested a few months ago that our rush-mgr should be known as "Prime Mover" for exactly this reason. Also "Gee, you mean God's a background process?" (Don't remember how *that* came up!) >What about the fact that "Geddy" is very similar to /etc/getty Of course I noticed that -- but do you think I was gonna mention it?! :-) -- * From the disk of: | jms@vanth.uucp | "Speeding through the Jim Shaffer, Jr. | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | universe, Thinking is 37 Brook Street | uunet!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms | the best way to travel." Montgomery, PA 17752 | 72750.2335@compuserve.com | (The Moody Blues) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rl103465@cs.tut.fi (Lauhanen Rauli OH1MKS) Subject: Innuendo/Show of hands Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 15:52:50 EET Moro Rush-heads !!! Yesterday I saw Queens video "Innuendo", and noticed one funny co-incidence. In that video there is guitar-playing figure, which remind me 'bout Rush's Great live-double's "A show of hands's" cover figures. Any other Opinions due this ??? Rauli ObRQ: Music by Lee and Lifeson, Lyrics by Peart P.S. Anybody State-sider ready to sell/deliver/post Rush T-shirt(s). Of course I'll pay well for The shirt and Postage ( in US $$$$ ) It would be great to have such a T-shirt to have here in Funland. You see, Finland Ain't any Albany, and I can Easily get Metallica, NKOTB, Pink Floyd or Iron Maiden T-shirt, but due Finnish T-shird dealer's Bad taste, they don't sell them. In Europe in general, Rush is one kind of a Cult-band, Like Marillion is in Usa.. Please, PLEASE P L E A S E Reply via E-mail rl103465@cs.tut.fi [ Have you investigated the Rush Backstage Club? Check the FAQL for the address and some information. :rush-mgr ] -- Rauli Lauhanen rl103465@tut.fi * 50.000 men were sent, to do the will of Post: BOX 62, SF-32701 Huittinen * one. His claim was phrased quite simply Opiskelijank. 4A15 Tampere 33720 * , tought he never voiced it loud. Genesis , Wind & Wurthering >>>> * - And I am he , the chosen one ..... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 10:10:11 EST From: Adam Konowe <AKONOWE%AUVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: Re: 03/20/91 - The National Midnight Star #196 Hello, Please take me off your list. Thanks. --Adam Konowe ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rlr@bbt.com (Ron Rader) Subject: Dionysis and Apollo/Hemispheres Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 10:13:47 EST Linus VanPelt asks... > ALSO.. does anyone know why in _Hemispheres_ that Dyonisis was used for > the argument for the heart and not Aphrodite? I thought Dyonisis was the > Bringer of wine? maybe my mythology is going bad. Assuming I remember correctly, in the Greek mythos, Dionysis and Apollo represent two complimentary (opposing?) facets of humanity. Dionysis, god of wine and fertility, represents the 'party-oriented' urge for fun and frolic, the physical nature of man. Apollo, on the other hand, represents the more cerebral nature of man; intelligence, reason, diligence. In Hemispheres, Neil draws a parallel between this element of Greek mythology and left/right brain differentiation in the human mind. -- ron rader, jr rlr@bbt.com OR ...!mcnc!bbt!rlr = Opinions are my own and do | | i gotta six-pack & nothing to do... = not necessarily reflect those | | i gotta six-pack & i don't need you = of BroadBand Tech. (SO THERE!) *** Punk ain't no religious cult, punk means thinking for yourself - DKs *** ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 12:01:13 -0500 From: jah14@po.CWRU.Edu (Jonathan A. Horvath) Subject: reply to adam williams in australia... [ If you'd like help with his address, feel free to send me mail at the administrative address. :rush-mgr ] my first attempt failed so here is a copy of the letter I wrote. I was unable to reply directly, I don't know why, so if you do and you know how to reply directly, please let me know. Adam, I'm a little confused, I only wrote about my lyrics a few hours ago to the National Midnight Star [I'm assuming that's where you heard about them]. How did you get the message and reply so quickly? If you did not hear about it from the NMS than how did you? I'm glad to read of your interest in my lyrics and music. The music is generally heavy metal oriented [not that thrash stuff though, my music is written to be sung to, I take pride in my abilities to write with a classical flair [tight, yet loose and flowing with changes in mood] and was invited to attent the Juliard School of Music]. And the lyrics show an insight into the nature in us all [that's my are of special interest--there is something in us all [humans, animals, plants, everything] that is the same [yet unique to each] and I'm trying to find out what it is and also to find the truth of existence whether or not there is a god and how things came to be if not. I use my meditational skills to probe into my transcendent concsious and search for the the truth, I've almost completed the quest but I'm almost afraid to, what would I search for next?? Anyhow, I'm tying it all into my music and and a book that I am writing which is called TOMORROW'S DREAM. I'll send you a copy when I'm done which may not be for a while but hopefully by the end of this summer [winter for you! hey wow, I actually knew something!] I'm not sure what it costs to mail stuff to Australia [someday I hope to visit the island] perhaps you could give me an address to which I can mail the stuff to and I can figure the cost. Of course lyrics and that stuff can be sent via this connection setup [which I really don't fully understand, so you'll have to tell me how to mail directly to you, I tried just replying to your letter but it said 'failed mail', beats the hell out of me what that means!], well let me know. I have to go now and write two essay exams [Japanese Religion (religion and state interaction throughout history) and Buddhism (the bodhisattva of universal wisdom)] fun eh??? Well, take care and keep the faith. transcendentally [and hopefully successful this time!] Jon -- As the sun shines so does wisdom, only we are blinded by its brilliance and view it only through rose colored lenses, never to view it in its pure form. jah14 140 Michelson CWRU ENGL/RLGN ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 12:15 EST From: GU090RGS%ITHACA.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu Subject: Rush-Metallica Connection? I noticed in the credits of the "Master of Puppets", Metallica thanks R Rush. Does anybody know what involvment Rush had? [ Geddy likes the music that Metallica makes; he's said that in interviews. :rush-mgr ] One thing I do remember reading somewhere is an interview with Geddy saying that Metallica on "Master Of Puppets" reminded him of old Rush! Richard Stahl. GU090RGS@ITHACA ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 12:20:54 EST From: joezete@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter John Chestna) Subject: Neil speaks out In case any of you wondered how Neil feels about his lyrics in general or their interpretation, I remember an interview with him in which he said (rough translation) : The words I choose are basically for the sound they make, I intend them to sound good with the music. If someone enjoys Rush because of the sound then I have done my job. If people also are stirred emotionally by what I'm saying, GREAT, but thats a secondary consideration. I'll try to find the exact reference in my collection, but that was the jist of it. I personally find great satisfaction in his lyrics, but if you don't, then that doesn't mean your any less of a fan. also, one possible interpretation of the nsf instead of the FREE space on the board in the Big Money vid could be "NOT SO FREE". just a thought. Pete p.s. keep those concert lists coming in, I'm getting great response and will keep the poll open as long as there is interest. for any of you who are not aware, I am conducting a poll of what you the rush fan on the street wants to hear at your next concert, send as many or as few songs as you want(within reason). mail to: joezete@wpi.wpi.edu thanx ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 10:19:27 -0800 From: larrys@dbase.A-T.COM (Larry Stein) Subject: ddd vs. aad Hi, Just a few notes on cd labeling (aad, add, ddd). First, the best advice I can give you is to IGNORE those three letters. They tell you very little about how the cd was made, and they tell you nothing about how the cd will sound. Most people don't realize what each letter actually means, so here it is: First letter: what kind of tape recorder was used during recording Second: what kind of tape recorder was used during mixing/editing third: what kind of tape recorder was used during mastering The key words are "tape recorder". Just because a cd is marked as add does not mean that it was digitally mixed. It only means that after the mixing was done, the resulting music was recorded digitally. The fact is that it was probably mixed in analog. Though digital mixers are becomming more commonplace, most studios still don't have them. A cd marked as ddd probably went though several a2d and d2a converters before it finally made it to the digital form you listen to off of the cd. So, should a ddd cd sound any better than an aad one? The answer is no. There should be no difference in tape hiss as well. High quality studios have very good analog tape players that utilize Dolby A noise reduction. You've never heard of Dolby A? That's because it is not commercially available except in a select few high end reel-to-reel tape players. The thing that matters most is the technical competance of the people doing the mixing/editing/mastering. That is why the people who are expert in that area are in such high demand. I myself have many aad cd's which sound much, much better than some of my ddd ones (the reverse is true as well). Just check out Dark Side of the Moon, or any classical cd. Most classical cds that are ddd sound horrible. Larry Stein larrys@dbase.a-t.com ----------------------------------------------------------
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