The National Midnight Star #196

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 03/20/91 - The National Midnight Star #196
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 196 Wednesday, 20 March 1991 Today's Topics: Snare sound A RESPONSE Broone's Bane-The Trees Flame away... re:Shane Faulkner, Lyrics, etc. Hemingway and The Big Money Broon's Bane + $.02 MTV and stuff Rush Productions, etc. linus, lyrics Rush, Drugs and Satan Re: DDD vs AAD vs ADD RE: Broon's Bane and The Trees Depeche Mode List Lyrics & music Whispering, DEW, Didacts and Narpets, Syrinx Big Money Video Red Barchetta and Anthem (Best/Worst lyrics?)! Rush Backstage Club Hold that poll! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: ez003211@deneb.ucdavis.edu (Basil Fawlty) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 91 12:11:10 -0800 Subject: Snare sound Does anyone know what snare Neil is using during Red Sector A on GUP? It sounds different from the other snare sounds (maybe because Neil is playing 16th notes on the high hat and so he hits the snare differently from when he would be keeping his hand over it [most of the time]). Any takers? maybe the answer is in the Chronicles video? [ If I'm not mistaken, Neil's using his electronic drums when they play "Red Sector A". When he would go into his drum solo during this song, he would start it on the e-drums, the kit would spin, and he'd finish on the 'real' (accoustic?) drums. :rush-mgr ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Yoav Gershon UNIX: ygershon@ucdavis.edu University of California, Davis --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Mar 91 16:16 EST From: V120P993@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu Subject: A RESPONSE i am replying to rob harris' question concerning other works of neil in the writing category. a close counterpart of mine (and the biggest fan i know- his collection astounds) entered the room of andrew macnaugton, the bands personal assistant. andy showed my pal neil's book, which only family members and close friends of the band own. my friend told me that it was just a collection of poetry, i believe. this all took place in detroit, michigan- right where you currently reside, harris! glad i could shed some light on this subject- this is a true story, i have no reason to lie. as always, slainte mhath to the rush-mgr for the commendable efforts to this board. KEVIN HULME -JELLY FILLED CREVASES NEVER DIE........... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Mar 91 18:39:09 -0500 From: jah14@po.CWRU.Edu (Jonathan A. Horvath) Subject: Broone's Bane-The Trees My name is Jon, I've been a RUSH fan for about 13 years and have been involved in music for 18 [I'm 22 now] and have been on the guitar for about that long as well. I like the transition from one to the next on the EXIT...STAGE LEFT album and feel that it follows nicely and naturally. It is not in the same key, but that simply makes the change all the more beautiful and graceful. Music isn't a bunch of theory or mathematics it comes solely from the heart, everything else is just rhetoric. THE MUSIC MAN Jon -- "...And the end is just some distant illusion, and the answer- just some fading delusion. I tried to break this wall, but I can't get through. I can't accept it anymore..." from ANOTHER SHATTERED DREAM written by me, perforemed by Overture [my band] Jon ENGL/RLGN JAH14 write for a tape... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Mar 91 19:42:11 EST From: cameron_bd@lrc.edu Subject: Flame away... Usually I don't post but I finally decided to put my two cents in about this Lyric thing. I have been listening to Rush since P/G came out. Its been a long time I think I was about 14 then and I am 21 now. Since then my intellect has dicatated changes in my taste in music, and many of my old favorites are no longer. I will listen to music from my early Rock n Roll days and think God, thats terrible. But, Rush has managed to stay in their secure and safe. I feel that the main reason is because they have dealt with issues that haven't really dissipated as i have grown older. Which isn't to say that they won't, I can't answer that question any more than I could say what I will be like 10 years from now. But being a 4th year communication major, I know the importance of showing and not telling. I have written a lot of poetry and some fiction. I have attended classes taught by very adept present day poets i.e. Richard Murphy. Anything that paints an image in youre mind as opposed to simply stating it, is MUCH more effective. I think that Neil Peart is a genius as a composer but as a writer he shows a much higher perception of the world around him than he puts into his lyrics. Which still isn't necessarily a criticism. It is very HARD to write lyrics to match music, its tempos and rhythm changes or visa versa. Not to mention all of the rhyming. But to say his lyrics are brilliant in the form, from a literary standpoint just isn't true. Now I realize that I have stepped on the toes of some peoples Gods but so be it. I really enjoy Rush but it stops there. I get insights from there music and I somtimes learn from them but it doesn't mean that they are perfect. And judging from some of the previous responses, some people seem to put them way up on some kind of pedastool... So flamers come on but please direct responses to me personally....:-) Brad Cameron "the dimensional boy" ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: re:Shane Faulkner, Lyrics, etc. Date: Tue, 19 Mar 91 21:47:42 EDT From: David.Spencer@samba.acs.unc.edu! First, to Shane, I disagree that all youngsters are being exposed to music solely via eMpTyV...there is still hope for our younger generations, it seems the world in general is getting more conscious of music beyond the bounds of the top 10...I admit, my first exposure to Rush was rather pathetic, but hey, the ends justify the means? Second, about the wonderful lyrical controversy, let it rest. Some people like Peart. Some people don't. Some people like Tolkien, some don't. Some like the music of Rush, some don't. Nobody stands in a place to call someone else's opinins worthless. Personally, I enjoy Rush morefor the sound of their music, and the sometimes brilliant lyrics are a fringe benefit. *shrug* Nothing yet on my ESL question (Zanadu vs. Xanadu) I know one of you devoted fans must know :) --Dave OBRQ : 'Listen!' -Didacts and Narpets (odd song, eh?) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Mar 91 22:11:00 EST From: chuckles@egrlab.ac.duke.edu (Charles L. Hamilton) Subject: Hemingway and The Big Money Hello all... Noticing references to both Hemingway and The Big Money in TNMS 195 reminded me of something one of my English major buddies pointed out to me. He had purchased a book by John Dos Passos titled _The Big Money_, which I noticed and asked him about. He said Dos Passos was a comtemporary of Hemingway. So I picked up the book and was skimming through it when !surprise! I noticed each 'chapter' had a section in it called "The Camera Eye". Nifty. For those of you who are in constant search of Rush trivia, I hope I have provided something which you did not already know... Chuck Hamilton ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Mar 91 22:20:54 EST From: Evan Bjorn Ingersoll <ingersol@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Subject: Broon's Bane + $.02 I just saw Chris Schiller's post on Broon's Bane and thought I should throw in two cents. I would argue that BB has got to be the intro to *something*. Just try this experiment: Play Broon's Bane and stop the tape/cd before Trees starts. Do you feel there's something missing? So would anyone else who's listened to a lot of tonal, western music. The last line has that descending bass pattern A-G-F#-F, ending on a chord that's full of dissonances that, in western music, the listeners expect to hear resolved. I don't have my guitar handy, so I can't work out the exact details of the cadence, but I think the end of Broon's is a modulation to the key of Tree's, and so is a great lead in. I've tried to play Broon's as a stand alone piece, and it just doesn't work. The last chord needs to resolve somewhere, so I usually tack on the "intro- to-Trees" ending with the DM-AM-Bm which is a nice, final cadence. Anyway, enough rambling. Subject 2: I have to throw in something about lyrics, since everyone else is. I think Neil has a lot of great ideas, and generally I like the way they come out. However, especially in some recent songs, I think he gets caught up in his effort to find rhymes, to the detriment of the music. Some of the lyrics sound like he was *really* stretching to find a rhyme. Like he had something to say, knew what it was, but it didn't rhyme and so he threw in words that did, but didn't really get the point across. Most Heinous Example: "some of them burned on our cielings." Really, now, that's stretching a bit far. My favorite lyrics are those where he bags the "every-other-line-must-rhyme" mentality and just says it, like for example in Camera Eye. Great lyrics just don't have to rhyme. In short, I think the ideas are great, I like the music, but some of the poetry is really painful. Feelings-cielings-feelings-cielings- feelings-cielings-aaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Not to be harsh or anything. OK, I'm done. Evan BBQ- Humpty Dumpty Was a Dude! Humpty Dumpty Had no Hair! -eggs don't have hair. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: u9125205@its.uow.edu.au (Christopher Anthony Capone) Subject: MTV and stuff Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 14:53:43 EST Word up y'all, In response to the question concerning Dr. Dre and that other guy on "Yo! MTV Raps", the Rush that they were apoligizing to was most likely the record company called "Rush". They have absolutely nothing to do with the band that we all know and love. As far as I know that record company just produces rap albums. As far as the interpertation of Red Barchetta goes, somebody asked that question last year. Mr. Peart got his inspiration from a short story published in a magazine (the name of which now escapes me) The story, I believe, was called "A Nice Morning Drive". Anyway, since there was so much talk about it last year I'm sure that our NMS manager knows the exact title and all that stuff. I agree that it is futuristic. The references to the Motor Law (a law that outlaws cars, most likely because of environmental problems or natural resource shortages or whatever) and the reference to the turbine frieght are obvious examples. [ The original story, "A Nice Morning Drive", originally in Road and Track magazine a few years ago. A transcription was posted in TNMS # 34. The original story was set in the near future, for what that's worth. :rush-mgr ] Any word on the new album or possible tour dates? Last time I heard (through this medium) was that the boyz would release the record in June and begin touring in October. I'm currently on exchange in Australia so I won't be back in the states until Jan 92. What's the word on the street? I'm hopeful. Later on, -Chris ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Mar 91 23:59:07 -0500 From: Michael S Savett <savvy@brahms.udel.edu> Subject: Rush Productions, etc. Greetings - Yesterday a poster asked about an apology on 'Yo MTY Raps' to Rush and its management, etc. This may be in reference to Rush Productions, a rap record label and production company managed by Rick Rubin. I'm not sure who they promote. Also, to the poster who commented on the Rand-Judaic connection, I'm not so sure either Ayn Rand or Neil are (were?) Jewish. I've seen Neil with a cross on in several pictures..but then that doesn't men he isn't Jewish...(it's late, I'm babblin, I'm outta here!) Later, Michael Savett savvy@chopin.udel.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 01:32:02 -0500 From: linus@ritcsh.rit.edu (Linus VanPelt) Subject: linus, lyrics cfynx@epsl.umd.edu writes: > 4)Sally's neverending lust for Linus is a clear display of pre-marital > sex promotion. Hey... leave me and my lady out of this. =] Seriously... The reasons I got into RUSH was most definitely for the music and the lyrics to _some_ types of songs. I enjoy the lyrics of songs like _Xanadu_, _The Necromancer_, _The Fountain_, etc. becasue they are like a story. Though there are deeper meanings (especially the fountain) the face value can be somewhat of a refreshment. I enjoy fantasy novels (Anyone looking for good ones to start? Try anything by David Eddings or Katherine Kerr... really great stuff plug, plug, plug..) Take for instance _The Trees_. Though the deeper meaning is not too pleasant, the story itself at face value is neat. I do admit there are Rush songs that I don't like (like isn't perfect) and one of them is _Freewill_. Just a personal preference, something that I really can't give a reason for, but it is there. oh well... ALSO.. does anyone know why in _Hemispheres_ that Dyonisis was used for the argument for the heart and not Aphrodite? I thought Dyonisis was the Bringer of wine? maybe my mythology is going bad.. Linus VanPelt * Linus VanPelt * In life there are very few securities. * linus@ritcsh.csh * * .rit.edu * Gimme my blanket. * * ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Rush, Drugs and Satan Date: 19 Mar 91 23:51:28 MST (Tue) From: vfg2@phx.mcd.mot.com (Dan Quella) Here we go again! (I'm not attributing this quote as I don't mean to flame the poster...) > And since we're talking about the satanic side of RUSH, am I the only > one who sees "Passage to Bankok [sic]" as about drugs? If you read the lyrics > carefully, their [sic] are several references to smoke and the like. Good grief! Let's get a few things clear: 1. Rush is not satanic. The posts about 666 and all were JOKES, for cryin' out loud! 2. Reality check: What do drugs have to do with a fictional mythological character? Nothing, except in the minds of a vocal but deluded minority. 3. Marijuana is not "drugs," it is one drug, and a benign one at that. It is a tragic accident of history that it is even illegal. Read "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" by Jack Herer. > [ I haven't heard of any post-2112 drug references to them... :rush-mgr ] Not directly, no, but much of Rush's lyrics have to do with independent thought. I'm quite sure that Neil is as disgusted with the drug war mentality as I am. The War on Rights is a perfect example of a "Witch Hunt." The PDFA et. al. would do well to listen to "Show, Don't Tell," as all they know how to do is lie with propaganda and chant "It's bad! It's bad!" If my last anti-drug-war post caused just one Star reader to open their mind and start reading talk.politics.drugs, it was worth writing. I must give the readers of TNMS credit, though - there were no flames in subsequent issues and I only received one in Email from someone with apparently poor reading comprehension. Well, I could go on, but that's enough for now, as it is only peripherally related to Rush. I wish Neil would write a song about the subject. If anyone could pull it off, he could! "Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand" Dan ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: DDD vs AAD vs ADD Date: Tue, 19 Mar 91 23:24:35 -0800 From: kmarino@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU In the NMS # 195 Kenneth Suzan <kdsu_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu> writes > I was wondering what people thought about this. A friend of mine > told me that I shouldn't buy CDs that are AAD. He said the quality of > sound is identical to tape. What do you think? Well Kenneth (sounds fatherly don't it?) AAD stands for Analog Recording, Analog Mixing and Digital Mastering. ADD is Analog Recording Digital Mixing and Digital Mastering, while DDD is all three digital. From my producer days (a garage band and a 24 track studio) being involved with a rock band, we had a big discussion about this issue. First of all, analog recordings (although you may hear some hiss, but probably not) and analog mixing with a digital master is probably the best, that's AAD. This is because when it is DDD the soul of the sound is taken out. Symbol highs, guitar highs are cut off at predefined peaks and don't make their natural "coming down" sound. If you find a rock band that uses a lot of highs and the CD is DDD, you will hear a difference if you listen to it loud. That is my one and only beef wit' da boyz. I like the full sound, high treble and high bass, ok high mids too but.. I really like the high trebs. That is why I like Geddy's voice. When he belts out the tunes from the past... ooohhh boy does my heart jump. But, it is preference (ADD, AAD, or DDD). Now up until p/g the boyz used analog recording equip at LeStudio, but changed for some reason or another. Maybe to match Neil's taste for the electronic drumming system he has set up. After that they went all digital (oh well...) except ASOH which being live and technology to make a digital traveling studio being too costly, is ADD. This (IMHO) is better than DDD. Well, that's the way I see it. Also, if you like old(er) rock like Zep, Floyd or such, you will have to have AAD or ADD for their older works as Digital recording is an environment of the late 80's. So, I guess tell your friend the quality may be the same as the tape, but at least there is no flutter, and hell, a big CD library is next to godliness. (I'm sporting about 250+, my self). You see, I'm a CD freak, I hate vinyl and tape. I like the digital technology so please don't flame (Ohkay, go ahead if you must!). Now onto a completely different topic..... I have received numerous (okay, seven as of this posting) responses to my survey question. Keep 'em coming... Favortite song from each album, favorite album, favorite song performed live, (this can be different from ATWAS, E...SL, ASOH). Remember the address to email is: marino%hycad5@hac2arpa.hac.com BTW-- I am putting all the survey responses into a folder in my mail dir called RUSHSUR. This was accidental and I didn't even notice until later. I was abbrev. RUSH SURVEY. Kinda cool, huh? I guess I am a bigger fanatic than I thought. [ Just call you "Mongo". ;-) :rush-mgr ] I have a question for all you folks... Can anyone tell me what the picture inside the cover of Signals represents (The "C" clamp holding the egg). Can human life be the egg and mankind be the clamp (Is this too stupid to ask?). [ I think it's an example of the album title. The egg in the clamp personifies "Grace Under Pressure". Can't remember if this was from an interview, or a hypothesis posted here, though... :rush-mgr ] ******************************************************************************* * kmarino@bonnie.ics.uci.edu * OBRQ: "Because he was human * * marino%hycad5@hac2arpa.hac.com * Because he had goodness * * Life begins at graduation... * Because he was moral * * Or atleast, that's what they * They called him insane..." * * told me... * * ******************************************************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 09:26:51 -0500 From: rjf@maxwell.physics.purdue.edu (Robert J. Friedman III) Subject: RE: Broon's Bane and The Trees Good day, eh? Excuse me Mr. Schilling, but I have been playing both of these songs for quite a few years and I think Broon's Bane leads quite nicely into The Trees. True enough, they are not in the *same* key but the keys are related. Heck, the end of Broon's Bane is just a series of perturbations of the beginning of Trees. The songs seem to me to be variations on a theme ( a common device in classical guitar) and are thus related. BTW, when Alex plays "classical" guitar his style is more like spanish folk guitar than _true_ classical guitar (or so I am told by a friend who is classically trained--he can just blow my mind with Bach's Lute fugues!). Regardless, these songs are excellent excercises for expanding your musical style. There is something about classical guitar that just stirs the soul. -Bob Friedman "Listen to my music and hear what it can do."-guess ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ian D Bjorhovde" <idbst@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Subject: Depeche Mode List Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 9:30:01 EDT To the Trusy Rush-mgr, and everyone else: ^^^^^ [ Is this like "lousy"? :-) :rush-mgr ] It's ironic that I posted a letter saying that the Depeche Mode list was not in service, because Lo and Behold, there was a copy of the Depeche Mode newsletter waiting for me. It is called BONG and it is of similar format to NMS. However, whe poor editor has to type out the address of every single recipient- the message header is 2 1/2 screens long (could you imagine typing the entire mailing list, Rush-mgr :-) [ Actually, the addresses are in a file which is being included at the time of mailing. The NMS (in it's pre-name incarnation) used to be mailed like that, but I got better*. :-) * with apologies to Monty Python. :rush-mgr ] But the info seems like quality stuff. Just thought that I'd let you know. Ian Bjorhovde idbst@unix.cis.pitt.edu University of Pittsburgh ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Lyrics & music Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 11:07:21 EST From: David Arnold <davida@umd5.UMD.EDU> I'm a bit torn on the subject of Neil's lyrics. I began to get into Rush in the late 70's, when Neil was into his fantasy exploration, quasi-bombastic phase. At that time, I loved the music, and the words were neat-o too, to a high-schooler. I must say, though, that the music was what lured me into fandom (drool, slobber). My first exposure was to "A Passage to Bangkok", then side one of _2112_. I was intrigued from the start, but once I'd heard "Overture/Temples", it was all over. At that time I was into hard rock; Blue Oyster Cult, Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, Thin Lizzy, Jethro Tull (there *was* hope). I was captivated by the thundering chords & the amazing guitar riffs of the title piece. (How 'bout that solo in "Oracle.."!) As the albums came out, there were those that I immediately embraced, and others took longer to 'get to me'. This was totally due to the music, not the lyrics. Once I listened to the music, I'd go back and check out the lyrics to see what they were saying. I usually respected Neil for his writing, but for me the emphasis was on the tunes. Just my $.02, for those who can't get enough of these threads! :-) As for the meaning of "Syrinx" in context with _2112_, I interpret it to mean that the Priests/Temples were to be the 'voice' of the path for the people to follow. The Oxford dictionary (online on the NeXT system) says it's part of the voice/speaking mechanism. That tends to back it up. Of course, the machine was named after the song... :-) Funny story: While on vacation last fall on Okracoke Island, NC, I was asked what my 'SYRINX' license plate meant. They asked me if I was a psychiatrist, and my plate was some convolution of "Shrink". Sheez, what lengths people will go to to match a word! Lastly: My experiments with homemade beer & ale seem to be working! Maybe I won't mess with that store-bought crap for my next Rush-party! :-) David Arnold Keywords: Rush, Jethro Tull, Crack the Sky, Squeeze, BOC, Neville Brothers, Peter Gabriel, Pink Floyd, Inet: davida@umd5.umd.edu Talking Heads, King Crimson, Rolling Stones, UUCP: uunet!umd5.umd.edu!davida Police, ELP, Grass Roots, Hollies, Guess Who OBRQ: "We are the plumbers, We'll fix your sinks, With our mighty wrenches, We'll fix those clogs" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 09:22:34 PST From: ronz@imager3.llnl.gov (Ron Zasadzinski) Subject: Whispering, DEW, Didacts and Narpets, Syrinx This is a response to some things that Lance Neustaeter posted some time ago that I finally did something about... Whispering: Yes, I can hear Geddy singing "Hey Hey Hey" faintly in the background of "Chain Lightning". It is as if I had heard it subliminally before, because when you mentioned it I knew exactly where in the song it would be, even though I hadn't consciously thought to myself "Oh, Geddy is singing Hey Hey Hey in the background there." It still amazes me how many layers are present in Rush songs, both musically and lyrically. Such complexity is one of the things that really attracts me to Rush. And for another example of musical subtlety/complexity: DEW: Yes, after listening several times through Distant Early Warning I can hear the police whistle in a number of places. It is not easily heard mostly because the sound is so unexpected and in a different pitch range (i.e. higher) than the main part of the song where it appears. As Lance mentioned, the first police whistle occurs on beat 4 (with rim shot) right before Geddy says "It's so hard to stay together". Hats off to you for finding that one! Didacts and Narpets lyrics: Figuring these out has always interested me since I first heard the song. Lance's guesses prompted me to carefully listen again to see what I could hear. These are my guesses (mostly in agreement with you Lance): Deep Voice: "Stay!" Geddy "Go!" Deep "Work!" Ged "No!" Deep "Think!" Ged "Live!" Deep "Earn!" Ged "Give!" Deep/Ged <Wait or Fight?>/<Right> Deep/Ged <Laugh?>/<Right or Wait?> I am very very confident about the words in quotes. I'd bet serious money on them. The two last lines, where Geddy's voice follows the deep voice very closely, are difficult to pin down. I tried everything I could think of to make the sounds more clear: both channels together, full bass/no treble, no bass/full treble, left channel only, right channel only. I also repeated the same after connecting the speaker ground wires together where they enter the amplifier as someone previously mentioned would result in you only hearing the *difference* in signal between the left and right channels. It was that last technique that made me think of the "Fight" and "Laugh" possibilities. You'll have to try it to see. Some notes: I could only hear the "S" in "Stay" with the speakers re-wired as mentioned. In normal mode it sounds like "Tay!". "Earn!" has a glitch in it between the "r" and the "n" sounds. I am convinced that "Stay" and "Earn" are the correct lyrics however. Furthermore, the last line may be impossible to decipher with certainty, as Ged's voice starts before the deep voice ends, complicating the matter rather significantly. Syrinx: Matt Jun posted a meaning of Syrinx as an instrument made of graduated lengths of reeds bound together. Based on that it seems to me that the word Syrinx may have been deliberately chosen as the name of the Priests' temple(s) as an irony, since the Priests' downfall was initiated by the finding of a musical instrument. -Ron ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 12:47:00 EST From: ROBERT_SIMMON@mts.rpi.edu Subject: Big Money Video the NSF on the Monopoly board id probably Not Sufficient Funds, like when someone bounces a check. (IMHO, of course) Maybe its a multiple interpretation thing, like The Pass .... -rob simmon ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rlr@bbt.com (Ron Rader) Subject: Red Barchetta and Anthem (Best/Worst lyrics?)! Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 12:44:59 EST Regarding the current discussion of Red Barchetta (what's it about, is it the future, etc.), remember that it was inspired by 'A Nice Morning Drive,' the short story featured in (I think) Car And Driver. To those speculating about Red Barchetta, I suggest reading the story. It's available in the archives, although you might be able to convince someone to email it to you personally. I will, if the volume of requests isn't too high. Also, Terry Stedman says... > Live for yourself -- there's no one else > More worth living for > Begging hands and bleeding hearts will > Only cry out for more > > To me, those lines are both disturbing and depressing. Flames are pretty > much discouraged, but any comments on the above lines would be appreciated. Hmmmm, Anthem is among my favorite Rush tunes. I find these particular lines both refreshing and inspiring. They rip the mask off of the politi- cally correct myth that rational self-interest is wrong, and that collective altruism will somehow magically make the world a better place for everyone. However, this discussion is verging into social philosophy, and perhaps the NMS isn't the best place to debate the merits of altruism vs. self-interest. Remember that Neil has been inspired in part by Ayn Rand, and that 'Anthem' is perhaps the most Objectivist song Neil has written. As always, I welcome discussion. -- ron rader, jr rlr@bbt.com OR ...!mcnc!bbt!rlr = Opinions are my own and do | | i gotta six-pack & nothing to do... = not necessarily reflect those | | i gotta six-pack & i don't need you = of BroadBand Tech. (SO THERE!) *** Punk ain't no religious cult, punk means thinking for yourself - DKs *** ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Rush Backstage Club Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 13:11:19 -0600 From: neely@antares.mcs.anl.gov Good day, For those of you wondering what you get for your initial 12 bucks or whatever by joining the Rush Backstage Club - I just joined and got the following: * HYF Poster (the bright red one with individual shots of the boyz) * Signals tour program (the one with the cool crossword puzzle) * Backstage Club Patch (perfect for plastering a jean jacket with) * Certificate of Lifetime Membership (suitable for framing) * A "Band Update" (from one year ago) * Merchandise ordering information * A list of about 30 pen pals. (Why waste stamps when we've got TNMS?) Like it says in the FAQ file, you must order something at least once a year to stay on the mailing list, but prices aren't too bad. It's cheaper to buy Presto shirts ($15) than what I paid on the tour. You can also get some of the stuff that is rather hard to find, like "Visions - the official biography", old concert shirts and tour books, bumper stickers, ASOH video, etc... The address and stuff is in the FAQ if you want to join. (What's the latest issue rush-mgr?) [ The latest FAQL is in NMS # 184. :rush-mgr ] Carry on. Rob Neely "Well I say as I look back, on all the thoughts I've had - they reflect just what I'm learning." - Here Again ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 10:07:10 hst From: Hinano Akaka <bigtuna!hinano@uhccux.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu> Subject: Hold that poll! Yo! Sorry to waste space on this, but Mike Goodwin -- HOLD THAT POLL! I've been wanting to write in, but just haven't really had the chance. I couldn't tell you this over e-mail because I didn't write down the address and just haven't had much of a chance to track it down. But I will get back to you! At least by this week (if you want to wait that long...) Thanx for the space, folks! We now resume our normal programming. Puanani Akaka ----------------------------------------------------------
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