The National Midnight Star #31

Errors-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush-list-all Subject: RUSH Fans Digest of 08/15/90 (#31)
RUSH Fans Digest, Number 31 Wednesday, 15 August 1990 Today's Topics: Show Dont Tell Rush CD ... Ultimate Band ... to be found within a song. (none) ultimate band...chick's opinion ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Aug 90 12:44 EST From: "Rob Lizak Jr." <VISLIZAK@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu> Subject: Show Dont Tell In the Aug. 13 Digest, kumasawa@cory.berkeley.edu made references to S.D.T. being a song about religion... oh boy... I think we all know how Neil feels about religion, but anyways, back from the Radioamerica interview Neil told what was meant in S.D.T. or at least the underlying motive or theme of writing the song... he said that producers have a phrase they like to use in the industry, "Show Dont Tell or SDT"... saying simply that if you go to a producer and say that you have this great concept or idea its not good enough, you have to show them... I cant remember anything else he said about the song other than what I just typed as I havent listened to the interview in a long while... but anyways, the song has nothing to do with religion... Rob.. (Its great to hear that Chronicles in supposed to be out Sept 8 instead of Oct 6... geez , Rush being released on my birthday... maybe they should hold it off until Sept 12 instead :) )... vislizak@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu vislizak@ubvms.bitnet ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Aug 90 13:49 EDT From: <SIMON%HUXTAL.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu> Subject: Rush CD ... Could someone please re-post the press releasing giving the song line-up for the new Rush Chronicles album ? Thank You ! take care, ejs --------------------------------------------------------------------- | Eric J. Simon Harvard Univerity HU GSAS BMCDB G2 | | SIMON@HUXTAL.BITNET, SIMON@XTAL0.HARVARD.EDU | --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Aug 1990 14:33:25 EDT From: STEVE@sli.com Subject: Ultimate Band These are really my favorite musicians, as I can't imagine their actually playing together in one band: Drums: Carl Palmer, Neil Peart, Rod Morgenstein, Bill Bruford, Billy Cobham Keyboards: Keith Emerson Bass: Jonas Hellborg (has played w/ John McLaughlin & Ginger Baker)- the most amazing bass player I've ever seen, and I've seen everyone on this list except for Percy Jones; Percy Jones (Brand X) Jeff Berlin, Geddy Lee, Jon Camp (Renaissance) Stanley Clarke, John Entwhistle Guitar: Steve Morse Vocals: Greg Lake (male); Annie Haslam (female) Favorite Band: ELP Favorite Lyricist: Peart, although early Greg Lake was pretty good (c.f., "Tarkus," "The Only Way," and "Karn Evil 9." -- Steve Mason ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 13 Aug 90 17:18:13 PDT (Monday) Subject: ... to be found within a song. From: "Brad_Armstrong.WBST129"@Xerox.COM In response to Ron Rader, Jr.'s 'discussion generating' comment about normal, reasonable, and intelligent persons (namely, the boys) having smoked marijuana with no permanent ill effects; all I have to say is "What do you know that we don't? Some inside info? A hallucination maybe? How about some proof ..." Carl Johnson asked if anyone thinks Show Don't Tell is primarily about religions. I don't think the song was meant about any specific topic. Most religions expect you to take things on faith as a given for participating anyway, and that is pretty well understood by most people, right? Why did you leave the obvious (to me) topic of interpersonal relationships out of your list? That would be the one that I would choose, given only one choice. I have noticed, as have many of you it seems, that Rush has changed the style and content of their music over the years. I feel, as I have previously stated, that the Exit...Stage Left dividing line was not artificial. Here is a question I think about sometimes, which I would like to hear some discourse from the rest of you about: What is the essential difference between, say, the period before Exit...Stage Left and the period after Signals (I think of Signals as kind of transitional, or at least more so than Moving Pictures)? I'm not talking about specifics here, although I expect you may have to site them as evidence, because I'm sure most of us are quite familiar with the specific differences. I'm looking for comments on things like the band's apparent philisophy, the music's apparent philosophy, the music's value, or even the record company's influences. In short, anything more than "The songs got shorter, and I only like long songs." I keep finding myself wondering if it's only me that sees some essential changes in the way of the band. I'm sure this one's been hashed to death at some previous time, but I'd still like to hear the arguments of some fans, rather than all the comments I get from non-fans. Electronic communication, making your life better; Magician. ---- Brad Armstrong Lion.Wbst129@Xerox.COM Xerox MB Lab, Webster, NY W: (716) 422-9688 ... everybody got to elevate from the norm. - N. Peart >None of these opinions has anything to do with anyone but me.< ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Aug 90 10:41:24 EST From: Snow Dog <spotter%eve.wright.edu@RELAY.CS.NET> Well, well, well. It seems I am getting famous. Yes, I don't know about anyone else, but anagram@desire.WRIGHT.EDU is on this list, and is none other than little old quiet me, spotter@eve.wright.edu. I use this account for the mailing list, because we have a quota on desire (VMS), and I get too much stuff there as is. I think (boy is it flame time) that Anagram (for Mongo) is the best song, lyrically, that Neil has ever written, which is saying a lot, I think most of his songs are far beyond almost any writer I can think of. There is creativity on that song that you really have to look at the lyrics two or three times before you can catch on to it. Going back to some of the recent discussions, someone was 'bad mouthing' Countdown. I can't agree less with you. Neil has done an amazing feat on this song. He has captured the very energy of the launch. And Geddy upholds the energy with his voice, and its little quirks at just the right moment. Also, Neils words describe the launch beautifully. Even if you've never seen a shuttle launch, you can get the feel of just through this song. Oh well, enough babbling for now. (I had to write when I say my name!!!) Anagram ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Aug 90 9:15:26 EDT From: Christine Ann Murdza (STUCONTR-SECAD|groff) <murdza@BRL.MIL> Subject: ultimate band...chick's opinion ULTIMATE BAND ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ I must agree on the necessity for chemistry, but I think it's also important what style of music is going to be produced. Strictly dealing with -SICK- musicians in terms of feel, finesse, and chops, I must make my 'ultimate band' consist of (with obvious overlaps): DRUMS: Peart, Dennis Chambers, Dave Weckl BASS: Lee, Kai Eckhart, Marcus Miller, Chris Squire GUITAR: Eddie Van Halen, Mike Stern, Vinnie Moore VOCALS: Oletta Adams, John Palumbo KEYS: Kenny Kirkland I think depending on the tune, one could mix n' match the above to achieve a pretty sweet combination. See Ya, Christine ------------------------------------------------------------------ | ...the spaces in between | | | leave room for you and I | murdza@BRL.MIL | | to grow. -Peart | | ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------
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