The National Midnight Star #2184

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A Passage to Bang, err Toronto Rush & Violins Intro to Rush Intro To Rush.....Yet another.... stuff and nonsense Goosebumps polarity Re: 03/19/99 - The National Midnight Star #2183 In Defense of Scarred Hello to all female Rush addicts Re: Opening bands... First Album Pieces of Brain Rush Intro Ryan Whitaker and Scarred Records (none) Three Sides Live/Rush in the studio? Re: 03/19/99 - The National Midnight Star #2183 First Rush experience The Ultimate Peart Lyric ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Miceli" <RobM@genesis-video.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 07:28:20 -0500 Subject: APOLOGY TO RYAN.... **** PLEASE POST THIS THANKYOU *** Hello NMS users, if you recall I sent out and really stupid email about scarred records in particular Ryan Whitaker. This email was intended for the Rush MRG's eyes only.. however I may of emailed it out to the wrong address.. looks like I frigin did eh.... [ Sorry, my fault for not reading through the digest and spotting this and taking it to private email... : rush-mgr ] I just wanted to say that it was a scum thing for me to do and I am very sorry. His people is truly for real.. Even though I did receive the CD just hours after the EMAIl, the CD is blank by the way... I guess i deserve it... Anyway's, Ryan thinks that I reported him to the Post Office.. I almost did but I didn't. I figured I've done enough damage with the email, and that i could be wrong about this guy. I thought the CD was late 5 weeks and I was wrong about that. I've been screwed before with sending money to buy things over the mail. Ryan did send me an email, and offcourse he is upset but at the end of the email he still offers his help and tells me to take care. Ryan you remind me of me believe it or not... your a good man.. So I hope people still purchase music From this man. Ryan get a hold of me so I can say sorry over the phone.... AS for RUSH news.. things are looking good. They asked Geddy if they would play at the NEW Air Canada Centre... He said yes. Rob Miceli ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Simoa Drew <DrewSim@wcboe.k12.md.us> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:57:51 -0500 Subject: more goosebumps and... hey all, to continue my own thread... the live version of "bravado", especially on the Rush-n-roulette (92) boot is incredible; that doesn't bring just goosebumps, that approaches the tear plateau. also, alex's acoustic guitar in the chorus before the last verse of 'scars" is another fine goosebump moment. Now, for the less ego-stroking bit....I caught a double whammy of VH1's Behind the Scenes featuring metallica and crue and it occurred to me that rush could never be on Behind the Scenes because the don't follow the simple formula every band on there seems to have: - Meteoric streak to stardom, frequently based around a hit single or album; band's lifestyles, bank accounts, members, etc can't keep up with the exposure. hair and/or make-up/clothes dominate conversation; - Variable period of hedonism and fast living marked by excesses of drugs, women and cars. can you imagine Geddy saying, as Kirk Hammett did, "You know, getting rubbed down by eight women in the hot tub..." - Sudden loss and/or apostacy, punctuated by death/overdose/paternal suit/bankruptcy - Long period of realization/epiphany, highlighted by solemn soul-searching and acceptance of fallibilities. Drug rehab followed by "clean" label usually applicable here. Divorce is also common, though it usually triggers more clarity and is seen as a "step forward" - Triumphant return to former glory. Band plays bigger and better gigs, makes new fans, leaves dark past behind, embraces "new creativity"; stable marriages and toddlers frequent images during this phase; shorter hair, clearer speech, wistful smiles all trademarks of maturity. corpulence (as in Vince Neil) lurks in the shadows No wonder Rush will never make it. You might even say that they're pretty boring! And for that, and everything else, I love them cheers, Simon ---------------------------------------------------------- From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:59:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Spocks Beard I am curious to see how many Spocks Beard fans are on this thing. All you Rush fans are very open to new music and I think that if you like YES, Genisis, and other prog bands I think you would dig the Beard. The reason I ask this is because they might be planning a tour this May and they could benefit greatly from new listeners that would come see them live. If you want some samples go to their homepage http://www.cloudfarm.com/spocksbeard.html and click on the discography link. They have samples from their 3 releases as well as the new one to be released March 23rd. Lets try and help out this great band. Go listen to the samples, I don't think you will be disappointed. Later all, NP: Anekdoten/Vemod == John Parks jpyyz@yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Tracy Smith <tsmith@wahoo.sjsu.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:11:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Intro to Rush This is a pretty cool thread and after reading others' memories of their first experience of Rush, well I just had to send a short post, too! Long ago in the summer between 6th grade and the elusive 7th (elementery to junior high) my friend let me listen to a tape "her cousins from Canada" sent her. It was Rush, for the life of me I can't recall what song it was (I could kick myself). I liked what I heard and from then on I just kept an ear out for any Rush song. I didn't actually own their records because friends and family did. It was only a few years ago that I started to actively collect all of their CDs. The one tape I had up to that point was A Show of Hands and I did go to their Presto concert in the early 90s. The last few years have been my "catching-up" period and it sure has been worth it! TFE tour was so much more meaningful to me! Rock on! Tracy ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ============================================================================ " Treat people as if they were what they ought to be and you help them to become what they are capable of being." ~ Johann W. von Goethe ~ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "David M. Campbell" <David.Campbell@po-box.esu.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:22:33 -0500 Subject: First Album The first album I ever owned was "Love Gun" from KISS. My older brother had a cassette copy, and I made a copy of that! Months later I received "Let There Be Rock" from AC/DC for Christmas. The first album I ever bought with my own money was "Alive II" from KISS. Dave ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "David M. Campbell" <David.Campbell@po-box.esu.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:30:23 -0500 Subject: Spine tingling RUSH moments Spine tingling RUSH moments: 1. The closing minute or so of "Lakeside Park." So mellow, yet the best ending to a song I think I have ever heard. 2. When the lead guitar breaks in during the intro of "Before and After." Very climatic. 3. The lead break and closing phrases in "Limelight." 4. The entire song of "Subdivisions." Especially the simple keyboard melody following each chorus. 5. The solo in "Between the Wheels." 6. The middle section/solo area of "Big Money." 7. The solo in "The Pass." 8. The closing of "The Mission." >...And many others that I can not think about right now, I am sure! Dave ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg Sanderson" <gregsanderson@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:36:40 PST Subject: Intro to Rush and First Record Dear All, Well, I figured I'd pitch in on these two threads: My intro to Rush was gradual - first song was TSOR, which at the time I didn't really like a helluva lot (I was more of a TOTO kinda guy - more of that later). That was it for ages, and then I went to college, ran into a great guy by the name of Russ, who was hugely into Rush. Despite being pummelled by virtually every Rush song over my first year at college, TSS, Countdown and Marathon were the only ones to really stick (and TSOR of course, finally warming to it). 2nd year of college, the same week I met my current fiancee, I bought Chronicles for about $3 on double-cassette. This started to get me sold on later Rush, although I still didn't like much of the first tape. Finally took the plunge, bought Power Windows (still telling my mate that that was gonna be my only Rush CD purchase - hahaha) and then HYF and ASOH followed, yup you guessed it, after that the fever finally gripped me in total and it was a subsequent cascade of spending over the next few years which led me to where I am now, having sold on all my old CD's and replaced them with the complete remaster set, having got all but CP on vinyl, plus every tourbook except CP (must be my unlucky album, even though it's my second favourite!), plus more 12"'s, 7"'s and cassettes than I care to recall! As for first record (if anyone is still reading!), on the vinyl front I come up a blank, closest I can get is my first 7", that being the still magical Orinoco Flow by Enya. First album on CD as far as I can recall would have been Toto: Past to Present 1977-1990 (told ya they'd pop up again before the end of the post!) Well, it's been an odyssey so far - let the journey continue! Greg Sanderson Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregory Stepien <nad_v_ndx@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 13:29:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: re: Video for "Different Stages" I'm writing this to forward some information that I got from a radio interview with Alex Lifeson on CHTZ 97.7 FM in St. Catherines, ON, CA. According to this, the video is "in the can" right now and it appears from what I read into the interview that the video will be released soon. I have seen a transcription for this interview online somewhere, but I forgot where the link was. I have heard a rumor (and this is not confirmed) that Atlantic Records may be releasing a box set for "Different Stages" which would include ALL(!) of the tracks that didn't make the final cut on the North American release. This is why I haven't bought the Japanese import yet with the bonus track ("Force Ten") and two mini tour books. It seems to me that within this set, if it is true, would be the perfect time to release the video don't you think? Just an observation. Greg ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregory Stepien <nad_v_ndx@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 13:36:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Anality of Rush fans I must confess that I am about as anal as they come about all of my belongings, but especially my CD's. I alphabetize them and line them all upright. In fact, to this day, it aggravates me that the label for "Presto" was printed reverse that of all of my other CD's. Also, when I put all of my CD's of the same group together, I organize those from the same year by catalog number. I'm just glad I'm not alone. Ta, Greg ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Patrick Berry <pberry@seanet.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:39:53 -0800 Subject: Yes we are anal. I (like most of you) tend to keep my Rush CD's in some kind of order. I have a 61 disk changer so my preferred method is chronological order. Its nice to listen to one as I go to sleep each night and watch the evolution of one truly dynamic group. You just can't get bored with these guys. I haven't gotten around to getting a CD player for my car so I use my tape collection there (that's how I got into Rush, by buying discount bin tapes, mainly the songs I heard on the radio). I have all the tapes in chronological order in a case so I can pick out the tape I want to listen to without looking down. I don't do that at all with my other tapes and CD's. Has anyone noticed the difference in ones level of Rushaholicism when one make the transition from tapes (typically listen to in the car) to CD's (listened to at my desk with headphones). Suddenly some of the albums that were never my favorite suddenly brought about a whole new meaning. (I'm specifically thinking of Presto. That album is unbelievable!) I realize that those of you who were around for the age of LPs were already aware of this, you lucky bastards. The rest of us had to catch up. Pat ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Terri Conley <yelnoc00@dialnet.net> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 17:40:29 -0600 Subject: RE: 03/18/99 - The National Midnight Star #2182 To Michael Reeves "RUSH in Tawain....... We have a friend there (Jeff = Metcalf), and also a great RUSH fan so were wondering if the two of you = have met? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Emo101173@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 18:11:25 EST Subject: POSSIBLE DS DVD GOOD NEWS!!!!!!! Please everyone this is only speculation, I don't mean to give anyone a false glimmer of hope, but here goes!!!!!!! I got an E-mail today from VH1's program schedule department which tells me the program line up for next week. The woman in charge said that Rush as well as Kiss and a few other bands would be on their video playlist for next week. This makes me wonder, why would they announce this, especially if they intended in only playing old videos. I've been e-mailing them for months to re-broadcast the "Limelight" Pop Up Video and have been ignored. The only possible reason I could think of was that they are hopefully going to show a live video from the DS tour. And if they indeed do this, then hopefully the long awaited Different Stages DVD will be following sometime soon!!!!!!!!! WE CAN ONLY PRAY!!!!!!!! Wasn't it tentatively scheduled for this month? I am going to check VH1 this week, however I might not be able to catch it. Fellow Rushians keep your eyes peeled!!!!!!!!! E ver hopeful, E ric Hawley. "DON'T ASK ME, I'M JUST IMPROVISING" - NP '89. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian <donlin-clan@erols.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 19:51:39 -0500 Subject: A Passage to Bang, err Toronto I'm finally going to make it to Toronto this year and I was wondering if anyone with info out there could tell me where one with limited funding could find a place to stay for 2 nights. Best Western, Motel 6, hostels, something along those lines. The closer to the city, the better. I'm definitely hitting the prerequisite Rush sights, along with Eaton Centre and a few museums. I here the Museum of Science is pretty cool. Anyone with some other places of interest should feel free to let me know. Here's a couple of good thread idea's: For tourists: How much fun did you have in Toronto? For Residents: How much fun are Rush-induced tourists? If you have had a bad experience with either, just let bygones be bygones. - Peace, Brian ~ http://members.xoom.com/test4eco ~ http://www.erols.com/donlin-clan ~ http://members.theglobe.com/BluesNAle/lotus.htm ICQ# 20498943 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: johncaulfeild@pmsc.com Date: Fri, 19 Mar 99 16:30:11 -0500 Subject: Rush & Violins Lazarus <lazarus@ionet.net> wrote: "Okay, now for my first RUSH experience. In 1998 my boyfriend, who was a diehard fan, introduced me. When he learned that I'd played violin for 15 years, he played "Losing It" for me. My life changed, or rather I should say, I changed my life. The music of Rush has always been an inspiration to me ever since." -> To Lazurus, I take it you realize that Ben Mink was the violinist who guested on "Losing It"? FYI, Ben currently is a producer/co-writer/session man with k.d. lang, but used to play electric violin in another rather obscure Canadian band called FM (fronted by none other than the infamous 'Nash the Slash', a mummified vocalist). I believe I had the pleasure of seeing FM open up for Rush on the PW tour. Great band, FM is/was. If you want to look for their stuff, I'd recommend it! Cheers, John ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Norm Jensen" <normjensen@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 18:14:37 PST Subject: Intro to Rush Back in '83 when I was 13, I was on a trip with the high school band to a state competition. The trip was an especially long one and there were plenty of classmates that had walkmans to help pass the time. I noticed one of my friends that was passing his headphones around to let people hear a real cool effect. Of course, I had to try. He rewound the tape and let me listen to the sound of a helicopter passing by. It sounded so cool :-)! "Who is this", I asked. "Rush, dude. It's a song about the space shuttle", he answered. I decided I'd have to check that tape out closer some day. Later that year at another friend's house I noticed he had that funny tape with the dalmation sniffing a hydrant. I wanted to hear the cool helicopter effect again, but he insisted that I check out the first track. I was immediately hooked! To this day, no other song besides Subdivisions has had such an impact on me (well, maybe Big Money as well). I still get all goosepimpled when I hear the deep synth intro and I'm whisked away to that first listening. Haven't been able to shake it since. Norm Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Rushian953@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 21:23:36 EST Subject: Intro To Rush.....Yet another.... Hello my fellow Rushians, I was twelve years old, living in the small town Poland Spring, Maine. My neighbor, who was in a band in the seventies, and is now the sound technition for a band called Chamealeon. Anyway, he listens to Rush. One day he was blaring what I would soon find out to be the newly released Chronicals album. I was completely amazed by them. I was two years into taking drumming lessons, my teacher spoke often of a one Neil Peart and a band called Rush, but I never quite knew what he was talking about untill that pivotal day when I knocked on my neighbors door and asked, "What is this incredible music you are listening to??" My first Rush album would not be bought untill '91 when Roll The Bones was released. It was my first Rush CD and to this day, it remains my favorite for its reminder of my intro to Rush. I guess I have simply loved Rush since the day I heard Chronicals and heard Roll the Bones. I soon bought everything I could get my hands on. Being young and having no source of income, it took me a couple of years to get every CD, but when they relesed the Remasters, I bought every single one of them on the spot. I now attend the University of Maine at Farmington, and I am slowly turning all of the students up here into Rush fans. I have a radio show at my college radio station, WUMF 100.5fm, and I find myself playing Rush way too much, but I do get a lot of positive feed back from my "Loyal Listeners." Till I get good enough reson to post again... Good Night!!!! Joe Latuscha Feel Free to E-mail me at Rushian952@AOL.COM ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Dogyears@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:11:39 EST Subject: stuff and nonsense >From: "dietrologia dietrologia" <dietrologia@hotmail.com> >John Rutsey--tell me, does he still suck on the drums, or has he gotten any better? In my opinion, he never "sucked" on drums. **Rush** is a fine first album, and if you compare John to those that were around at that time, doing rock [except maybe Keith Moon.....o-oh], I think he put in a tight and cool performance on Rush. There's no point in comparing it to NP, but even so - you can't say he "sucked". Can you? >From: Chris Sadlers <cjs@ici.net> >Simple, the best bassist of all time is easily Les Claypool from Primus. I saw Primus supporting RTB in the UK, and have bought all of their CDs since. But, IMO, to say Les is the best, takes us back to the "who's the *best* drummer" debate. Sorry Chris, Les is so cool, but others are as cool, and so different as to be incomparable. Let's just enjoy all of them! >On Rik Emmett and Triumph: Am I right in thinking that he played on the Beyond Boarders record with Alex? >From: Borekas@aol.com >Could it be that I have more in common with all you people than just Rush? Are >we all really anal? I sure am! >From: "Paul Whiteman" <digytalman@hotmail.com> >About the "Best Drummers" Phil vs. Neil debate... >Personally, I believe that Neil is the most complex percussionist that >rock has ever seen. Sure Phil played some interesting stuff with >Genesis, but c'mon folks... Well, to me, PC just played different stuff. Sure, less technical at times, but I would say, no less interesting as a drummer....? To say NP is the most complex percussionist, I think would [a] need clarification, and [b] be ultimatley futile, as there are LOADS of brilliant drummers out there. WHO CARES WHO IS "BEST" ?? Just enjoy them all. Keith ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Maholchic <mmaholch@kusd.kusd.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 21:40:40 -0800 Subject: Goosebumps Great topic- the RUSH goosebumps. Here are my top ten favorite RUSH goosebump moments: 1) The middle section and solo of Red Barchetta, from "wind in my hair" to the epic tom-tom barrage as Neil swings in his seat and brings us back into the song...that one always raises the hair on my arm. 2) "If their lives were exotic and strange, they would likely have gladly exchanged them for something a little more plain...maybe something a little more sane..." I always think of a story about Beethoven, weeks before his death, wandering around the streets of Bonn...disheveled, unshaven, reeking from lack of bathing...screaming out in deaf agony "I AM BEETHOVEN!" to horrified onlookers...I love how Neil shows us the flip side of genius in these lyrics. 3) Aimee Mann singing "Time stand still..." 4) The sound of Columbia's engines revving up in "Countdown". 5) The solo from "The Trees". 6) Geddy's passion as he sings the chorus to "Resist". 7) The beginning of the march in "Natural Science". 8) The entrance of the band, complete with Neil's blistering salvo of drumming, in the "presentation" beginning of 2112 when the kid shows the guitar to the temple priests for the first time. 9) The chorus in "Emotion Detector". 10) The lyrics in "Cold Fire" when the guy's wife says "This is not a love song- this isn't fantasy land...then the chorus. Whew! Anyone who has been in a long relationship can relate to that one! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Deborah Fowler <nynaeve_18@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 19:40:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: polarity Did a whole seminar course on this in undergrad, so i've got to throw in my own 2 cents... >From: PMKMAN@aol.com >Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:26:23 EST >Subject: vs.? >I think some people reading this might have heard of a >band called Rush who wrote an album/composition called >Hemispheres which explores the truth found in >dichotomy. >The truth is not some compromise between the extremes, >but a synthesis of the whole. Yes, yes, yes. The seminar course was on philosophy and we spent a good deal of time discussing the Jewish philosopher A.J. Heschel's thoughts on what he called "polarity." Basically it's the thought that Truth cannot be found by focusing on the extremes or even a compromise (middle ground) between them, but by holding the extremes in tension and acknowledging that one extreme cannot exist without the other, the Truth is there in both. Of course, Heschel was more elegant in his laying out of the concept, and it's been a while since that class... apologies for my stumbling rendition. At the time i was already a devoted Rush fan, and while the concept of "polarity" resonated with me in my own thinking, it also made me listen to many of Peart's lyrics in a new way--the concept is there to be found. And for what it's worth... I'm with PMKMAN on the issue of respect as well. We must respect and be willing to learn from those who see the world differently than we do--not to change our minds but to broaden our horizons and destroy our stereotypes. OK, i'm climbing off my soapbox for now... ;) == Travel is a tonic for the soul... -Harrod & Funck ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "David M. Kellogg" <dmkellogg@iquest.net> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:52:12 -0500 Subject: Re: 03/19/99 - The National Midnight Star #2183 >Lets start a thread here. Are there other bands that use *any* >of rush music..ie chords, appergios, etc? Well, I can't think of any bands that use Rush music right off. However there is very striking similarity between Rush's "Tom Sawyer" and Journey's "Nickel & Dime" from their "Next" album, which was released approximately four years prior to TS. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Collier <willcollier@digitalexp.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:10:09 -0600 Subject: In Defense of Scarred There was a rather nasty accusation levelled at Ryan Whittaker of Scarred Records a couple of days ago in the NMS. I don't know Whittaker, but I have bought some of his discs in the past, and I've corresponded a bit with him via email. It's been my experience that Whittaker is entirely honest and trustworthy. He delivers on what he promises. There is absolutely no truth to the claim that Scarred is a "scam". He's had the same web address for the 6-8 months that I've been aware of Scarred, and it has never changed. There's simply no truth to the charge that he put up a temporary site, then vanished with peoples' money. It's also true that Ryan is often a little slow, particularly in answering email. For those who get bent out of shape about this, I'd advise you to remember one thing: this isn't amazon.com, with thousands of employees to take orders and ship products. This is one kid with one computer, operating out of a dorm room. Given that, Ryan delivers as well as anybody could be humanly expected to, and IMHO, he's a credit to the Rush fan community. Just my $0.02. -Will Collier willcollier@digitalexp.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Dodd" <bikeman@vol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 23:16:30 -0500 Subject: Hello to all female Rush addicts Just wanted to say it's nice hearing from the female side of Rush fans. Thanks Deborah and Lazarus for sharing your comments with us. A related story: While at the Counterparts tour there was a girl sitting at the end of our row who I couldn't take my eyes off of...not because she was drop-dead gorgeous, but because she was singing right along with Geddy! -every word! I tell ya...it was truly amazing. Very refreshing to see in a very "male dominated" rock-group world. Take care, Chris THE Bikeman > ******************* > Share the Road, > ___~0 > _'\ >_ > (*)/ (*) > It's One Less Car! > ******************* ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ike Pigott <IkeP@ABC3340.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:28:00 -0600 Subject: Re: Opening bands... Steve Ervolino wrote that (paraphrased) Candlebox sucked ass as an opener, wish we coulda had Primus. Well, as a matter of fact, we did have Primus in Pensacola for the RTB tour... They did *not* win over the crowd, to say the least. Don't give me any of that "trash-the Southerners" crap, either... it just wasn't a good show. The two biggest hands they got was for the bass riff from Cygnus, which Les dropped into a time-stop; and when Rush's roadies carried a bound-and-gagged Les Claypool and dropped him in the middle of the stage in the middle of a Rush jam (I think it may have been CTTH). I remember all this well, because when CP tour came around, Candlebox was the opening act. I swear to God, none of us ever heard of them, or even had the name right. Two songs in, their performance began to win over a restless crowd, and by the fifth song we were jamming away. They thanked us for the support, said they were big Rush fans too, and promised to clear out of the way soon so the boys could start their set. The cheer they got for that was big, but not as big as the one they earned on their own. Different strokes... but I'm glad I saw both. "Evolution: the natural law dictating that if you idiot-proof an item, someone will just make a better idiot." Ike Pigott ikep@abc3340.com "just a fool on television getting paid to play the fool." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ike Pigott <IkeP@ABC3340.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:36:43 -0600 Subject: First Album The Carpenters. The brown album. Superstar. We've Only Just Begun. Top of the World. I was 3. I still feel all warm just thinking about. (No flames, please. I said warm. Not moist.) Ike Pigott ikep@abc3340.com "just a fool on television getting paid to play the fool." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Ayers" <lerxst@voicenet.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 23:42:27 -0500 Subject: Pieces of Brain Just some subjects that tickled my grey matter as I read TNMS: 1) First albums: (for the puposes of this thread, I am not including = any K-tel albums) My first album was Supertramp- "Breakfast in = America." What a great album! Some of the songs are dated now, but = still one classy piece of rock. Later, I moved on to REO Speedwagon "Hi = Infidelity"; Asia "Asia" (first intro to what I consider to be hard = rock - I was a little leary of hard rock, couldn't digest "Time Again" = at the time, but I love it now); Journey "Frontiers" and then Phil = Collins "Hello, I must be going" (see, I do like Phil). After that, It = gets fuzzy, but better. 2) Bands ripping off Rush...hmmm...not sure about this, but does anyone = else here some Rush chords in Pearl Jam's "Alive?" 3) Speaking of Tom Cochrane...a man who generally has written some great = songs on some okay ablums. One exception, the first album after Red = Rider became Tom Cochrane and Red Rider. Self-titled album and probably = their best. Opinions? 4) Chills-producing moments in music: I'll pick three off the top of my = head: a) The sustained guitar chord in the final chorus of "Scars" b) Intro and the bridge between the instrumental and the final = chous of "Red Skies" by The Fixx c) middle section of "Mission" Just my responses to various postings. DA ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lemieux" <lmlemieu@netcom.ca> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 00:52:33 -0500 Subject: Rush Intro Everyone here has a cool rush story, so I thought I'd tell mine... It all started when my brothers friend Tom (22) came over tom our house. We were all playing Risk. I was only 12. He put on A tape that started with. Dreamline. I thought the music was pretty cool but didn't think much of it. Later, When I was at a Music store with my brother, He suggested that I buy Retrospective II. I did, and loved it. I then picked up the 2nd Retrospective a couple of days later. Rush influenced my Life when I went out and bought a guitar because of Alex. i have been playing for about 3 years and now have all the Cd's. Bye fro now, Mark ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fred Kessler" <fkessl1@uic.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 10:33:59 -0600 Subject: Ryan Whitaker and Scarred Records Hey all. I am just writing to defend Ryan Whitaker and Scarred Records. I only have bought 2 CDs from him, but I can say from those two experiences that he his a very honest guy. He answered all of my questions. He said the orders would only take a week to get to me, but you know what? They never took longer than 3 days. If something happened to you where you did not get your CDs, I am sure it was just a fluke. Therefore, you shouldn't be smearing this guy in public, IMO. Fred Kessler ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Melo" <mj_melo@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 08:48:02 PST >I'm sorry, but you mean to tell me (and everyone else) that you >started >playing drums at age 3? > >John Yeah, I did. Mooseboy ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "PAUL SMITH" <Paul.Smith@nottingham.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 10:06:54 GMT0BST Subject: Three Sides Live/Rush in the studio? For what it's worth, Three Sides Live was just that everywhere, except in the UK, which was treated to a fourth live side, because we had already been exposed to the deadly Paperplate ep. I recall a story that Rush were going back into the studio this month. Has this happened? Any inside information anywhere? Love and kisses, Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- From: MOSSMAN BENJAMIN ERRAMOUSPE <Benjamin.Mossman@Colorado.EDU> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 03:08:37 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: 03/19/99 - The National Midnight Star #2183 in response to the goosebump thread, i have a few. the end of the freewill guitar solo as they wind down into the verse -2112 "soliloquy" first note of tom sawyer when the bass kicks in at the beginning of "Cut to the Chase" i could go on forever, but i would like to hear what everyone else says. i agree, this is a good topic ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "M. Bruintjes" <chielb@cybercomm.nl> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 12:11:08 +0100 Subject: First Rush experience Hello fellow Rushians, My name is Michiel, and i'm from the Netherlands. My first Rush experience was when i was about 7 or 8 years old. In these day's my brother played a lot of Rush (2112, Xanadu, the trees) on his stereo at a high level, so i had to listen. After a while i began to like the music and started to listen to other LP's. So when they gave a concert in the Netherlands i went to it, and experienced the best concert of my life. When they released Grace Under Pressure i kinda lost sight of Rush. After this release i went to another concert wich was also excellent, but the "New"music didn't get to me. So Years went by without new Rush material for me. I often listened to "old" Rush material (It's timeless) but that where only some periods. Till a few months ago when i was together with my brother listening to old Rush Songs. While we where listening we wondered when "Permenant Waves" was released, after looking at the release date (1981) we where supprised. We wondered if Rush was still making music, and after looking on the internet we found that RUSH was still present. I took my changes and ordered "Test for Echo"and "Different Stages" and was al back to Rush. I must admit that you have to hear the music a few times to get into it, but after that your into Rush. Now i've also "Counterparts" and "Roll the bones" and i wonder if Rush is going to give another concert in Europe !!!. Greetings Michiel. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Hodgetts <hodgetts@cyllene.uwa.edu.au> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 08:27:20 Subject: The Ultimate Peart Lyric G'day all, This may well be very hard to do, but IF you had to ..... What is your ultimate Peart Lyric? But you have to limit yourself to 4 lines. Billy Oz...out. ----------------------------------------------------------
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