The National Midnight Star #2182

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Drummers and stuff Rush Symphony The first record or album you ever owned While We Wait . . . Dovetail Joint Rush - hoohowwerrwen - what? Broons Bane Re: TNMS #2181 - Best Bassist Intro and Anal First RUSH Experience Yo La Tengo and Rush Victor II? NEED HELP Genesis 3 sides live clarification please Introduction to Rush Opening bands for Rush The symphony tribute Re: The Best Bassist rush in kuwait, and the internet Internet long distance ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Frank Bettencourt" <Frank.Bettencourt@cta-otc.x400.gc.ca> Date: 12 Mar 1999 13:17:09 -0500 Subject: Rush & Triumph : Canadian Precious Metal Hello to all Rush fanatics, In reply to the "Fight The Good Fight" question, as it was indicated earlier, TRIUMPH released that song in 1981, on the Allied Forces album. Here are a few similarities between Rush and Triumph. Hometown: Toronto, Ontario (Canada) Number of musicians: (3) Trio Cool album-art : Just A Game, Never Surrender, Thunder 7, PW, MP, etc Guitar Gods: Rik Emmett & Alex Lifeson Music: Hard Rock, Progressive, Instrumentals, etc Live: Great live bands with excellent "production" Lead singers: High pitched voices (Geddy & Rik) Here are a few differences between the two bands. Fan base: Rush (die hard, loyal, fanatic) = 40 million albums sold Triumph (not so loyal) = 15 million albums sold Musicians: Rush (Alex, Neil & Geddy = Virtuosos) Triumph (Rik Emmett - Guitars = Virtuoso) Recording Studios: Rush's association with Le Studio (MH, Quebec) = privately owned Triumph use to own the Metalworks Studio in Mississauga, Ontario In all honesty, if you are a RUSH fan, would should give Triumph a listen. For the record, in 1987, Alex Lifeson and Rik Emmett did collaborate on a "Guitar Player" soundpage called "Beyond Borders" along with two other Canadian guitarists: Liona "First Lady of Guitar" Boyd and jazz maestro Ed Bickert. This instrumental was written by Rik Emmett, and I remember Alex playing some fine guitar solos on it. Regards, Frank ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Borekas@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:54:55 EST Subject: Anality Could it be that I have more in common with all you people than just Rush? Are we all really anal? I also "alphabetize my CD's and put them in chronological order according to group (Rush's eponymous album first, followed by FBN, COS, ad nauseum)," as Simon said. He also noted, "That's pretty anal." Also, ALL of my CD's have to be perfectly straight-up when I put them back in the case so when you open the case, you see the the CD in its "proper" position. To annoy me, everyone opens my CD cases and turns the CD's slightly. Anal enough? (But I don't wash my hands 500 times a day--I'm kinda normal.) Abl ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ike Pigott <IkeP@ABC3340.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:52:08 -0600 Subject: Hanging Tough... Hello all... long time, all lurk... For those of who who may not know, some friends of mine have been waging an internet campaign to screw with eMpTyV... We logged on en masse to the Total Request website, and managed to get the New Kids on the Block onto the top ten countdown. It debuted at number two. (Heh heh heh.) No flames please... I didn't pick the song, I just helped out. Carson Daly has allegedly thrown down the gauntlet, saying we can't do it again. Ha. Let's hit 'em hard, guys. And after they lock that song out, I'll talk my friends into putting Subdivisions over the top... Ike Pigott ikep@abc3340.com "just a fool on television getting paid to play the fool." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Simoa Drew <DrewSim@wcboe.k12.md.us> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:58:27 -0500 Subject: first times and rush hey all, the night my high school girlfriend seduced me and got me laid for the first time was also the night she popped in the just released Presto into her tape deck on continuous loop and thus gave me my first listen of what became an obsession. no wonder I assossiate "Chain Lightning" with sex... cheers, Simon ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ike Pigott <IkeP@ABC3340.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:58:17 -0600 Subject: Here's the proof... POP: NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK'S REVIVAL (New York-AP) -- Don't underestimate the power of the Internet. That's what M-T-V has learned, when an eleven-year-old song turned up in its "Total Request Live" countdown. Apparently a chain e-mail campaign called for people to log onto M-T-V's website and request "Hangin' Tough" by New Kids on the Block. Enough people did to land the song at number two on yesterday's countdown. (Copyright, Associated Press, 1999) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smith,James" <james.smith@sota.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:07:22 -0800 Subject: re: beauty and truth and danishes <What are your moments? What music, songs, etc do you find so beautiful that they bring goosebumps?> I love finding that I haven't listened to a CD for a long time, months or even a year. Then playing it and rediscovering the music. I experienced this just this week with Presto. I put it in and I rediscovered so many of the beautiful moments in the album that I had forgotten or never even noticed. There's always discussion here about Alex as a great guitarist. Presto really shows his talent for producing ethereal sounds. He used a style then that was very unaggressive but it suited the songs so well and made them very rich in texture, sound and emotion. Scars is one of my favorite songs and has been since I first heard it, but I always liked it for the driving bass and drums. After 9+ years and countless listenings I finally heard something in the guitar that I had been missing. Same thing with Chain Lightning where the light touch in the chorus is just awesome. So for this week those are the two songs I find most beautiful. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: MadduckMP@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 09:24:11 EST Subject: first Rush My first Rush experience was in 7th grade, not long after Signals came out. New World Man was being played by my music class teacher. She tried so hard to have the newest music for the class, bless her. Not long after my dad gave me Archives for my birthday, and I was permanently hooked. My first show was Power Windows, 48th row, main floor at the Rosemont Horizon. What a show.... I think Geddy rearranged my rib cage during YYZ with one of his solos. :) The show I most regret missing.... Berlin on the RTB tour.... 5 or 6k capacity, 1.5k tickets sold.... still kicking myself for missing that. Madduck ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Guy Walker <reklaw@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 15:25:24 -0600 Subject: RE:Clock ticking on Rush.... Mike Kubik wrote.. The "Test for Echo" tour sold 339,911 out of 465,090 tickets (73.1% of capacity) while the Counterparts tour sold 565,202 out of 600,624 (94.1% of capacity). These figures are only partial and from the NMS website so I don't know all accurate they are, but there is a definite downward trend. NOT A FLAME...but 339,911 sold...reguardless of stats. Wouldn't discourage me any. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Reeves <mreeves@wt.net> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 16:17:43 -0600 Subject: Rush in Taiwan Talk about finding Rush in out of the way places... I do a good bit of business travel to China and Taiwan. On my last trip to Taiwan (Jan/Feb) I had a couple of Rush encounters. First, anyone ever heard of Channel [V]? It's an Asian MTV kinda thing. Actually, the hotels have both Channel [V] and MTV Asia, but I watch Channel [V] almost exclusively. Anyway, in one afternoon, while working in my hotel room, I heard a few seconds of three different Rush songs on Channel [V]. It was on these little fill-in video bits they do between songs, or between VJ's, etc. First I heard a few seconds of the intro to Limelight. Of course I immediately sent off an email to a friend working in Taiwan that I new would appreciate it. A little bit later, it was the intro to Red Barchetta. As soon as I could, I started working on another email to the same person. Before I could send that one, they went to another comercial...and it had the intro to Subdivisions...so I had to add that to the second email. I heard those same three intros again later, but I believe that was all there was. Second one. We were at a record store, in Taiwan, and I half-jokingly asked one of the record store guys if they had any Rush. I had never seen a Chinese-release Rush CD, but I would certainly buy it if I did. That guy didn't know who I was talking about, but he mentioned it to his manger, who, in his better than average English, said he knew Rush. "Three guys...from Canada...Tom Sawyer, Spirit of Radio.." He sent the other guy on a search, and the only Rush CD they had in the place turned out to be a non-official release (trying to be nice and not say bootleg) that appears to have come from Italy. I believe the name is "Temples of Syrinx." I couldn't help but buy it. - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Michael Reeves mreeves@wt.net http://web.wt.net/~mreeves ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ntsfan@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 22:16:00 EST Subject: Semi-Rush Sighting/EdTV Greetings Rush Enthusiasts, I just got back from a sneak-preview of the movie "EdTV". There is a scene in the movie where Ed is wearing a Rush T-shirt! I couldn't believe it! It is sort of inconspicuous, but I would say I am 99.9% positive it was a Rush T! I almost leaped out of my chair with excitement! I won't give away the T-shirt or the scene in case anyone is planning on seeing the movie. I am sure someone else will post about it anyway! Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Crystal Shea <crystal@crystalcalligraphy.com> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 11:30:35 -0800 Subject: You know you're obsessive about Rush when... Depsite the fact that you have the song on a tap in your car, and the CD in the house in the CD player, (never rmind the billions of times you've already heard this song), you still sit in your car and listen to the end of "Spirit of Radio" playing on the radio:) Crystal Crystal Calligraphy (916) 773-8175 www.crystalcalligraphy.com PO Box 1213, Loomis, CA 95650 ccalligrpahy@webtv.net ---------------------------------------------------------- From: RadioSpirt@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 19:05:48 EST Subject: Rush sighting (sort of); Rush intro Hey! Long time reader, first time poster (?). Just wanted to mention that I saw the movie "EdTV" and Matthew McConaughey in one scene is wearing a Rush t- shirt! It is obscured a bit by a sweat jacket, but it is unmistakebly the Man vs. The Red Star! Pretty cool if you ask me. As for my intro to Rush: back in 1980 my buddy and I were really into Atari Space Invaders. The only problem was that the Atari belonged to his jerky brother-in-law. So when our school went on strike we had plenty of time to sneak in some games. We also took a liking to his 8 - track (yes I said 8 - track). He had one cassette with a cool label on it that included a newspaper with an historic headline. We plopped it in and we were changed forever! The first time I heard Neil's ride cymbal I knew that's what I wanted to do. I've been drumming ever since. I can't believe that was almost twenty years ago! Anyway, that is my little story. Now back to my plans for world domination. Please don't take my little totalitarianism personally. It's just my destiny. Jim Philadephia ---------------------------------------------------------- From: PMKMAN@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:26:23 EST Subject: vs.? I'm not fully up to date on my TNMS reading so I don't know where this discussion on the false definitions of liberal vs. conservative is going, but... I think some people reading this might have heard of a band called Rush who wrote an album/composition called Hemispheres which explores the truth found in dichotomy. Perhaps we should all review the material, eh? Reactive feeling (liberalism) w/out understanding causes nothing but confusion; material analysis (conservatism) w/out emotion results in nothing pain. The truth is not some compromise between the extremes, but a synthesis of the whole. Now, what about the split between fate & freewill? Another great dichotomy that strikes at the core of what it is to be human in the modern age. Those most blessed with ability (usually by circumstances, sometimes by achievement) are those with the greatest response-ability (ability to respond) to take the initiative to make positive changes. If not us (everyone reading this is a privileged member of the human race), who; if not now (on the cusp of perpetual everyday glory or collective decline), when? Fate has dealt you the position of "high-place", it is your freewill to make of it what you may! We can Research all we want and Reflect on what it all means, but it is the third "R"- Respect that is the cement that holds it all togther for us sentients. Respect for self and for others- respect for the external universe and the internal universe- respect for the things that are known and respect for the unknown- respect for that which you believe and respect for that which you deny. Isn't it great that so many disparate folks can get together and mold a new reality (closer to the heart- they are really compassionate individualists at the core) based on the catalyst of a "pop" band (I actually see their writing as a continuation of the great moral scripts of humanity). The future is ours (fellow Children of the Divine)- seize it! "With the heart & mind united in a single, perfect sphere." P.S. In all this guitar player stuff, no one has mentioned Carlos Santana. He's no speed freek, but what a soul! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Whiteman" <digytalman@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 06:49:31 PST Subject: Drummers and stuff Here we go.... Let me start off with a personal flame (Rush.mgr forgive me, please). I'm bleeding pissed off! Some low-life wanna be burgler broke into my jeep (actually it's a Daihatsu Rocky with a soft-top)and stole my whole RUSH collection (along with Queensryche, Kansas, Live, and others. The really sad part about this is that I KNOW the crack smoker that took the stuff listens (when he can get his hands on someone else's radio, etc)crap like Snoop Doggy Dogg. I have an old broken FBN vinyl...shards and pieces, really....that I'd be more than happy to shove up his ass if he wants RUSH THAT BADLY. Idiot didn't even take my speaker box...just my CD's. This all happened on Christmas Eve '98...just 2 1/2 months after I had received DS for my birthday...yes he got that too. About the "Best Drummers" Phil vs. Neil debate... Personally, I believe that Neil is the most complex percussionist that rock has ever seen. Sure Phil played some interesting stuff with Genesis, but c'mon folks... And why has no one mentioned Phil Ehart (Erhart??) of Kansas?? Since that puke stole my cd's, I've been listening to a bunch of old tapes that I had lying hither and tither (there were a few scttered about yon as well) and several are Kansas. Ehart (Erhart?) was a very technical, precise drummer playing some complexly arranged stuff. His kit was HUGE (yes I have seen them in concert a couple of times)and he managed to use all of it. My first RUSH experience?? I was 16 (34 now, you do the math, I'm a student of human interaction and Philosophy..not a mathemetician) and making out with my then girlfriend when she said, "Be right back". Two minutes later, I was hearing "The Trees" - weird to make out to, but hey, adolescent hormones being what they are, y'know. I was so enthralled that I forgot about her (momentarily..I won't go into specifics, but there was one thing she was REALLY good at!). She let the entire album play while we got back to we had been doing. That night, I went out and bought every RUSH vinyl the store had to offer...MP, 2112, Hemispheres, FBN, CoS, FtK...I had a pretty good job and generous parents. I've been a die-hard ever since. As soon as I can find it (it's packed away) I'll scan my old "RUSHFAN" Nevada license plate for the website. Paul Whiteman digytalman@hotmail.com Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jaybird926@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:24:48 EST Subject: Rush Symphony It's good news about the Rush Symphony CD but why in the world don't they release more than 25,000 copies?? I mean, yea, it's good to create demand but in this case, I would imagine lots and lots of Rush fans will buy this. 25 or do we want more?? Jay Roberts ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Hart <tim.hart@lamrc.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:24:33 -0800 Subject: The first record or album you ever owned Heres something that may make you think real hard, or you know it right away, and still may be listening to even now. What is the first album you remember calling your own. It can't be your older sister or brothers albums, although they undoubtably had an influence, weither it be positive or negative, that might of steered you in one direction or another. Maybe you got it for a gift, or saved up your allowence..whatever. Its interesting to see what attracted you to a certain band or album and then try to figure out how you ended up listening to what you listen to these days. My first record was a Stevie Wonder 45 " Fascination", in December of '69'. Does that date me or what? It was followed by Three dog Night, Beatles, Cream, The Band, Jefferson Airplane, Jeff Beck,Zepplin, Bad Company.... and so on. Ah the memorys. [ Mine was the Grease soundtrack for my birthday. I think I was 7? :-) : rush-mgr ] Timbo ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Ferrie <rferrie@pipeline.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:28:46 -0500 Subject: While We Wait . . . Dovetail Joint Not that they're in the same league, but as we fuzz through this weird time waiting for some type of shoe to drop from Our Holy Trinity, I recommend trying these guys from Chicago: Dovetail Joint. The guitars are a little weak, and the production seems juvenile, but there's a certain energy to it that has Rush like qualities. Check out "Oh My God" in particular. It can't be over, can it? http://www.richardferrie.com Richard D. Ferrie email: rferrie@pipeline.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alex 'Arekkusu-kun' Gray" <bigearl@arches.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:02:48 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Subject: Rush - hoohowwerrwen - what? Sophomore year of high school, five years ago (wow! it doesn't seem THAT long...!). I was at a private high school in Atlanta whose band, orchestra and choir members took a trip to Orlando every year to compete in festivals and go to Disneyworld while we were at it. During the latter part of the vacation, I was touring Epcot with a couple of older guys who kept singing the melodies to what turned out to be Rush songs ("Daah dah daah dah dah-dah-dah-dah" etc.). I asked them what on earth they were doing and they mentioned Rush. Now, at this point in my life I didn't know much about rock music (having only discovered Queen the previous summer) and was anxious to learn, so I asked them to recommend an album. They recommended ASOH if I was more into keyboards and poppy stuff, or ESL (or maybe ATWAS) if I was more into old-fashioned 70s rock. Being leery of "dinosaur rock" at the time, I selected the former. The thing that blew me away, apart from the drumming (I was still only a fledgling drummer at that point), was the keyboards. The only place I'd heard synths before was cheesy '80s pop, so I was like, "Wow! Keyboards being used _tastefully_). Over the next year or so I acquired the rest of their albums. Even though I personally think Rush was at their most interesting back around AFTK, ASOH still has great sentimental value for me. And, to prolong The Thread That Would Not Die a bit more ^_^, I think Neil and Phil Collins are at the top of two very different schools of drumming. PC is very much a jazz-style drummer - wide changes in dynamics, a lot of information in each note. Neil seems to be more along the one-man-percussion line - he uses more notes and more different sounds. He is also a more "literal" drummer, if you know what I mean. Also, as has been mentioned before, you can _hear_ how much harder Neil is trying. For someone like Phil, a child prodigy who probably never had to put in the hours that Neil surely did, the notes and rhythms flow out so naturally that he feels free to inflect a bit more, whereas Neil has doubtless spent so much time on consistency and mobility drills that it's more comfortable for him to use more different instruments as his voices. Both drummers have a wide range of sounds - Phil just uses a smaller drumset to convey his. Neither approach is superior or inferior - in fact, it's best to be able to do either or both. Being able to master a big kit like Neil does and pull out lots of weird rhythms and sounds is invaluable for advanced forms of rock, but I've always been really impressed with the guys who are so expressive on the kit that they can make even a simple backing beat sound riveting. Like PC, or Stewart Copeland, or (in a slightly different way) Bill Bruford (who half the time doesn't even bother with the traditional snare-bass-and-eighth-note-ride and goes even simpler - at least in his heyday). That's what's so fun about music - there are a million different ways to do any one thing... Alex R. Gray, ÞÜùÖ݆‹‰¢¥¤ß¡gË bigearl@arches.uga.edu www.arches.uga.edu/~bigearl "I'm just a shining-shining, shining girl..." - Megumi Hayashibara ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Walker" <geddy@san.rr.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:08:08 -0800 Subject: Broons Bane I was curious what fingerings or chords those of you guitar players out = there use when playing Broons Bane? Email privately. Thanks!!! Derek Walker (geddy@san.rr.com) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas <tommer@execpc.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:30:43 -0600 Subject: Re: TNMS #2181 - Best Bassist As far as 'Best Bassist' goes, other than Ged of course, I would have to say John Myung of Dream Theater. If you've ever seen them in concert, Myung is a very "studious", for lack of a better term, bass player. He rarely interacts with the crowd, even when someone else in the band acknowledges him on a song. If anyone here on the list has seen DT's video release "5 Years In A LIVEtime", when Portnoy is walking through the tour bus, pointing his home video camera at other band members, and members of the crew, while saying their nicknames, when he gets to Myung, Myung is sitting there fiddling with his bass...on the tour bus for cryin' out loud! LOL! By the way, Portnoy's nickname for Myung is "Geez Louise!" I thought that was quite humorous. :-) Anyone else think Myung totally rules?? Cheers... Tom ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Ayers" <lerxst@voicenet.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:12:04 -0500 Subject: Intro and Anal I feel somewhat left out because I have no great "Boom! It happened!" = story to tell about my conversion to Rush fanatic. For me, it was a = process that took two or three years. However, I can relate one story = that will forever linger in my mind. My introduction to Rush took place = around 1982 when I was about 13 years old. I remember being familiar = with several of Rush's AOR hits (this was also about the time I stopped = being afraid of "hard rock" and realized what BS Top 40 was) from heaing = them on the radio, but I had not yet shifted my allegience from Journey. = One evening, my best friend and I set out on a trip to the mall, = chauffered by his older brother. I remember sitting in the back of his = brother's orange Pinto (had I known the danger I was in...) and = listening to the radio and tapes. At one point, the brother inserted = "E..SL" into the Pioneer stereo and eventually it got to playing YYZ. I = can remember sitting in that Pinto listening to what felt like a = half-hour drum solo and thinking "Is that guy a machine or what?!" I = was floored! I had never heard anything like it before. As I became = more and more acquainted with this wonderous band, I came to admire them = most for their intelligent lyrics and their incredible skills. My first = concert experience was April 15 (I think) 1986 at the Spectrum in = Philly! What a show! Blue Oyster Cult opened (how's that for coming = full circle!) and I had floor seats! One a similar note, i brought my college roommate to the TFE tour in the = Corestates Center (now appropriately called the FU Center) for his first = Rush show. Now, this guy was raised on MC Hammer, Heavy D, Madonna and = the usual Top 40 schmegma. During the drum solo, at the part where Neil = inconceivably speeds up when you already thought he was playing at = inhuman speed, and I heard my friend say "You gotta be fucking kidding!" = Sorta brought me back to the Pinto. Finally, someone wrote: "I don't think that's so anal. When you also keep a spreadsheet personal "discography", alpha, by release date and *must* update it every time a change occurs, well there may be a need for therapy." And I thought I was the only person who did this! Well let me say, I AM = a therapist and if this is your only symptom/behavior, don't go looking = for meds just yet. Frankly, I believe that if I didn't organize my over = 300 albums (LP, CD and cassette) I would absolutely lose my mind. (Oh = no! More mental health humor - truly unintended) DA "He was eminent when my eminence was merely iminent." - Niles Crane ---------------------------------------------------------- From: dfreeman@marin.k12.ca.us (Dan Freeman) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:19:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: First RUSH Experience About 1980ish, can't say exactly when. I was sitting in my room doing homework. Suddenly, I hear that trippy freako-laser sound at the beginning of 2112, really loud. My brother Dave had decided he was going to crank a little Rush. It's as familiar as my own name now, but when you've never heard it before, and you're not prepared, it can really freak ya'. Shortly thereafter, I began to hear SoR on the radio.....did it for me. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: p.kent@ucl.ac.uk (P) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:32:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Yo La Tengo and Rush hi all, about a month ago we[1] were in New York, over from London, and to cut a long story short we saw a preview copy of a video by Matador Records' very own Yo La Tengo. Now, I can't remember what the song was called, but the basic plot was "band do very boring video, record company execs say 'that won't sell records' and they send the band to rock school where they learn about poodle perm haircuts, make up, spiky guitars, tight leather trousers... you get the general idea" Anyway, one of the classes (set outdoors beneath a tree, echoing a scene in "the prime of miss jean brodie", probably unintentionally) is Rock Lyrics, and I had a feeling Rush would turn up somewhere in this video. Sure enough, there's a David St Hubbins lookalike brandishing a gatefold 12" of AFTK instructing the kids "And the men who hold high places must be the ones who start...". Actually LOL, and briefly wonder if Helium do YYZ at their gigs. take care, P [1] the band known as 'pout', London based new wave & rock & pop, for which I play bass. Not a Jazz or a Rick 4001 (if I had the money...) but a Precision and a Bass Collection with a bit of overdrive - and guess whose bass it sounds like. That's right, Ed from Ultrafine. And Geddy too :-) - p.kent@ucl.ac.uk http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~zcapp14/ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve.Lucier@tellabs.com Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 05:38:44 -0600 Subject: Victor II? Way back somewhere I read that Lifeson is putting together another Victor CD. I believe this was to be released around March 1999. What's the word on this? Steve ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Miceli" <RobM@genesis-video.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 08:05:44 -0500 Subject: NEED HELP It's Rob Miceli from Toronto.. about 4 weeks ago I sent some money about $25 american to some guy named Ryan Whitaker. He had a Web site that I'm having problems finding now where he was selling Live Rush stuff. pretty good stuff. It seemed all legit, so I mailed him my request By TOR74 .. Well Ihaven't received anything yet. I think this guy some how scammed me. His name is Ryan Whitaker P.O. Box 60004 Waco TX, 76706 I need to find out if he is on the NMS. The address above is very difficult to trace I will call Texas today to find out thorugh Yellow Pages his phone number... I need your help, if he is on the WEB the guy is scum and shouldn't be on it stealling money from Rush fans... Can you do me this one favour I would really appreciate it. If he is not a member then I will email the NMS about him and maybe someone out there can help me. Or maybe you can thorugh administration... Please let me know ASAP Thanks Rob Miceli ---------------------------------------------------------- From: mrfranklin@west.raytheon.com Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 06:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Genesis 3 sides live clarification please Keith, listing the drummers on Genesis' 3 Sides Live noted that the drummers for the 1st 3 sides don't differentiate between Phil Collins and Chester Thompson and then for side 4... >>> Side 4: One for thr Vine Fountain of Salmacis It/Watcher of the Skies [BB]. <<< Keith are you sure that you're talking about 3SL here? Side 4 of 3SL are studio tracks including Paperlate and You Might Recall (hence the name of the album). just trying to clear things up for anyone who might care. Mark ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Melo" <mj_melo@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 06:54:07 PST Subject: Introduction to Rush I honestly can't remember a time when I wasn't into Rush. I was fortunate enough to have older siblings that were really into Rush. I have grown up with Rush all my life, so in essence, you can say that I was born "listening to Rush". (I was born in '82 :] ) I liked their music, even before I was old enough to understand anything about them! I'd have to say, that the number one reason that I started playing drums (14 years ago) was Neil Peart. I can't remember ever being influenced by anyone else or why I chose that particular instrument. Nowadays, I've sorta borrowed and taken some aspects of other players techniques and styles, and appreciated the instrument (and music in general) and its versatility. All in all, Rush is without a doubt a part of me, and the one reason I got into music in the first place. Mooseboy Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Ervolino" <servolino@thedynamic.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 10:18:12 -0600 Subject: Opening bands for Rush In response to: >>I think that if Rush releases another studio record >>and decides to tour, they are going to need a decent >>AOR hit single, or at least some better promotion >>work from Atlantic. -Mike Kubik >Or decent warm up bands, like they had for CP... -scoots When I saw the CP tour in Phoenix, they had Candlebox open up and they were terrible! After the fifth song people were chucking beer at them (which I don't agree with, but geeesh, the fifth song sounded like the first four!) When they finally said "This will be our last song tonight...." people gave them a standing ovation in thanks that it would soon be over! I know Primus opened for some of the shows on that tour, wish they would have been there for Phoenix. Anyone ever listen to Toy Matinee? Tight, intricate, well recorded and very interesting music. I dug it out after not hearing it for a couple of years. Strange how you can forget about one of your favorite CDs, put it in and listen for days..... Steve ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Whiteman" <digytalman@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 08:23:58 PST Subject: The symphony tribute Just visited the "Grand Designs" web site fot the first time....KUDOS to the creator!!! OK...About the symphony tribute; Will someone PLEASE email me the address where we will be able to order, along with the order/release date?? Being a great fan of classical music, and an even greater fan of the boys from the North, this is a must have for me. (Not to mention, I want to play it for my stepdaughters....they like classical, but hate RUSH. Then again, they're into the Backstreet Boys....[Buttstreak Boys?]) Also, just for general info...Anybody have any suggestions on the following: I am designing a class to be taught at the Junior College level. It will deal with representations of self and ideology in World Literature and Popular Music and I am planning to use RUSH (along with others...I need a wide sweep of genres). What I need are books that examine RUSH and their (Neil's, really) lyrical content/influences. Yes I know about Ayn Rand... For example: Are there indications of Buddhist/Daoist/Secular Humanist/etc philosophies woven into the lyrics, and what I need is at least one title that supports this kind of tack. Thanks!! Boys and girls together, see what it is we lack... Girls and boys together, let's paint the mirror black. PAINT IT BLACK Paul Whiteman digytalman@hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erin Langswang" <langswang@email.msn.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:33:26 -0600 Subject: Re: The Best Bassist Chris Sadlers says: >Simple, the best bassist of all time is easily Les Claypool from Primus. >He is a god. Whether he is bangin on his six string fretless or slidin >down that electric upright, he IS PRIMUS. listen to DMV or My Name is >Mud or even just about any song by Primus (especially live stuff) and >you will know why. Yeah, okay Chris... I admit Les is good. But if you're claiming that he is superior to ALL OTHER BASSISTS, then you must not have ever heard Victor Wooten play. He's da bomb, yo. Sorry, I'm super white. I meant his talent soars high above that of other bassists. Listen for yourself! :-) loverin ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:44:00 -0800 Subject: rush in kuwait, and the internet >"JOHN BARTHE" said: > but have you heard about the upcoming vote in Congress to potentially > charge long-distance fees for internet access? Yep. It's a hoax. don't worry about it. Angered a lot of people, but not a word of truth in it. I'm back from Kuwait. AFN played a bunch of new stuff, some good, some vomitous (a-Lameass Morissette), and no Rush, of course (Fooled them--I took CD's). There was a country station, a talk station, an Arabic calssical station, an Arabic top 20 station, an Arabic oldies station. Guess what? no Rush there, either. Not even Xanadu. Went to the minimal exchange. No Rush there. Not even bad 3rd world boots from the UAE. So, I was using headphones for once, carefully blasting DS into my tympanic membranes, and was listening to Driven. I hear BOTH acoustic and electric guitar during parts of it, and it sounds like two different riffs. Either: A) Alex is splitting the signal and using serious process and delay on the electric side (likely) (and he has both pickups on the guitar) or, 2) Geddy is using a pitch shifter on his bass to double the riff (unlikely) or, iii) They sampled the electric or acoustic riff so both could be together (virtually impossible) Sean, anyone else, got any idears? And after a good comedy act came through the base, I had this dream that Rush was set up to give an on base concert (see what Rush deprivation does to you?). The drum solo (I was listening to RM while napping) had everyone shocked into silence. If you want any war stories from Kuwait, let me know. For the civilians: A fairy tale starts, "Once upon a time..." and a war story starts, "No shit, there I was. Thought I was gonna die..." (not quite, but we did have an attack warning while I was sitting in a field of unexploded ordnance, unable to run for cover) And a great quote from Arthur C. Clarke: "An intellectual is someone who has been educated beyond their intelligence." - mike http://cloak-dagger.com Edged weaponry, from the stone age to the space age. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves. William Pitt Speech to the House of Commons, 18 November, 1783 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Miller <emiller@bbnplanet.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:37:24 -0500 Subject: Internet long distance Greetings Rush fans, Per the post regarding the US Congress/FCC imposing internet fees, please see what my congressman has to say. Be careful, he is a politician, so I assume no responsibility for accuracy/truth. http://www.house.gov/frank/nominute.html Later, Ed Miller ----------------------------------------------------------
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