The National Midnight Star #2170

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Peart Probably not the last word on Collins vs. Peart Collins vs. Rush golfin in the Fish Islands A long time ago, in a digest far, far away: ARCHIVES Phil vs. Neil Fastest guitarest: whoa, you guys just don't get it! The rhythm method Neil Peart Joins HELMET!!! Yeah, I thought the Rockline interview SUCKED! Gangster of Boats RUSH sighting... Neil's solos Rockline transcript Philabuster Michael Jordan? Re: Nick, Ignorance, Which Nick? Garth and Phil. Rush sighting...er...hearing! Rockline Questions Fastest guitarists Air Peart Dream Theater, DS, video, future, etc. lack of phil Re: Red Barchetta on UK T.V. phrasingtiming/tone/John Petrucci ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rush-mgr@tnms.com (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager) Date: Fri Jan 29 12:46:30 PST 1999 Subject: Administrivia We will be removing the direct link from the NMS page shortly, so please use these instructions for receiving the MP3 Rush radio station! NOW UP AND RUNNING! The all-new All Rush MP3 streaming Radio Station on YYZ.COM If you have Winamp, Open Location to the following URL: http://yyz.com:2112 Do this with *WINAMP* and *NOT* your web browser!! You will receive an MP3 stream with an on-going playlist of EVERY SINGLE RUSH SONG from the first album all the way through their latest Different Stages! Enjoy! - rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott Pennington" <scott_pennington@email.msn.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:43:35 -0600 Subject: Different Stages and King's X Hi there, Just wanted to to give my opinion of Rush's new cd, i think it is soooo awesome!! It has a powerful sound, and Geddy did a great job of producing it. Natural Science and 2112 really blows me away, everytime i listen to them, i get goose bumps. I just hope Neil is holding out all right. I also purchased King's X new one "Tape Head", and i must say that is one of the best cd's i have purchased in several years......highly recommend to get it!! "You have nothing to fear, but fear itself"....Winston Churchill or Neil Peart?..lol ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michelle Zagari" <novawoman@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:34:48 PST Subject: Re: Derek Watson's one item Derek: Since you had first dibs on that kickin black bass I love so much (dammit) :\ I'd love to have a baseball glove or a baseball bat, or even a baseball hat worn by Geddy and or Alex... autographed of course, but I'd take their stinky sweaty sports stuff, anyhow :) New York Tri-State area Rush Fans: Restless Youth, the HOTTEST new Tribute to Rush band has booked more concert dates. Log on to: http://www.sinc.sunysb.edu/Stu/tjwalker/restless.html to see where/when they're playing next! ***Support your local bands** ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan N Waggoner <galahad77@juno.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:19:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Definitive Rush <<You've got a single 90-minute cassette to fill, and you want to make sure that the band's diversity is represented, yet every track should be definitive Rush. That is to say, you don't want to omit significant tracks just to make sure that each album is represented. Can you do it?>> Given that every Rush-fan has their own ideas for what tracks are significant, my playlist looks a little something like this: Before And After Anthem Bastille Day Working Man/Finding My Way (from ATWAS) Nobody's Hero Circumstances Witch Hunt Limelight Subdivisions Cinderella Man (from DS) The Body Electric Tom Sawyer Resist Analog Kid Distant Early Warning Yyz (from ESL) Obviously, I could've included the epics like 2112, the Cygnus stories, By-Tor and such, but I'd prefer to save that stuff for second tape to be made later. To start with, though, I think I'd go with easily-digestable chunks of Rush. Just my two cents, though. Ryan/Stimpy ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ghost <qghost@fast.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:02:53 -0500 Subject: Rush, "Where's My Thing?" for Auction! Hell-o-o-o-o-o! To benefit the inaugural North East Art Rock Festival, June 26 & 27, 1999, Moravian College, Bethlehem, PA, a very devoted Rush fan has donated a copy of the CD promo single for "Where's My Thing?" for auction. It has been reported that only 200 of these promo CDs were pressed and sent to heavy metal/hard rock stations across North America. The opening bid for this ultra-rare item is $60. Please e-mail your bids to nearfest1@ghostland.com. This auction will end Thursday, January 28 at 4:00 pm EST. All proceeds support NEARfest '99. For more information on NEARFest, including the great line-up of progressive rock bands on the bill, please visit http://ghostland.com/nearfest/. Thank you! Chad Hutchinson Vice-President, North East Art Rock Festival """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" North East Art Rock Festival NEARfest '99 June 26-27, 1999 Bethlehem, PA Dr. Rob LaDuca, nearfest1@ghostland.com Chad Hutchinson, nearfest2@ghostland.com """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ghost <qghost@fast.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:10:19 -0500 Subject: "Where's My Thing?" Auction CORRECTION Auction ends Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 4:00 pm EST. Thanks! """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" North East Art Rock Festival NEARfest '99 June 26-27, 1999 Bethlehem, PA Dr. Rob LaDuca, nearfest1@ghostland.com Chad Hutchinson, nearfest2@ghostland.com """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rodd Karp (Volt Computer) (Exchange)" Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:41:33 -0800 Subject: Best guitarist, blah blah, rush sighting, blah blah... Allo all... it's been a while since I posted, but I've been saving up stuff (not much really) to say to y'all... First of all, I wanted to throw a couple names out that haven't been really mentioned in the 'Who is the best guitar person alive today, ever, by and for the Rush fans' debate going on. First of all, I'd like to present to you, for your listening pleasure, Buckethead! Check out Praxis: Metatron... this guy is insane. Secondly, i'd like to mention a band who's been mentioned here before, Ozric Tentacles! The guitar player (Um, name slips me right now, even though I have all their albums! ack) is extremely talented and versatile. I don't believe we hear more about him here in the states (or people being aware of him) because he's with some obscure UK act... well, lemme tell ya this guy completely impresses me. Listen to Live: Ethereal Cereal too, first track... hauntingly similar to Xanadu, which is weird, but neat at the same time. His playing is way fast, and clever and effective. And now, for the moment you've all been waiting for, my Rush sighting. It happened last night. I was playing some Punch*Out! at my pals arcade last night, and I had just defeated Piston Hurricane. My bonus time for knocking his ass out was 21120. It made me look around to see if anyone else had seen it. I think I need therapy. Snap ---------------------------------------------------------- From: William Hall <wchall@email.unc.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:42:47 -0500 Subject: 2112 Percussion? , Rockline transcript. Somebody wrote: <quote> I just bought Corrosion of Conformity's Deliverance album and I think there is some Rush influence there. In the back where they list all the credits and everything, the drummer credits "2112 percussion." I thought that was pretty cool. </quote> This may or may not be a direct Rush reference. I say this becuase I know of at least one music store by the name _2112 Percussion_. Maybe they're thanking the store, I dunno. On another note, is anybody else out there working on a transcript of last week's Rockline? I started, but I find it incredibly tedious. Perhaps we could split it up and combine our efforts. - William Cary Hall ICQ# 6956498 Homepage @ http://152.19.224.74 Check my Rush/DT tradelists ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Whiteman@appliedreasoning.com (David Whiteman) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:58:49 -0500 Subject: re: hey there Jason Plummer wrote: > In the back where they list all the credits and everything, > the drummer credits "2112 percussion." > 2112 Percussion is a music shop in the Raleigh, NC area. CoC is based in Chapel Hill, within the same metro. area. David - *************************************** David Whiteman Applied Reasoning whiteman AT AppliedReasoning DOT com ICQ# 12178974 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3261 *************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Counter Parts <counterparts0403@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:58:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Collins v. Peart I've read the many opinions on the subject of Collins v. Peart -- I, too, must now come up and put in my $0.02 in: Collins, yes, is very talented in his use of the sticks, but I am profoundly dumbfounded by those that state that Collins is in the same league as Peart! Collins may be very fluid, but he is also very simplistic in his approach. An attempt, I feel, to dumb down his music for his "mainstream" audience who couldn't ID talent if it broke ground and built a home right next to their own! Collins' look makes absolutely no difference -- he may LOOK like he's making it easy, but as every drummer has his own style, so does Neil. Neil's approach to perfectionism should not be held against him -- I, quite frankly, consider him (Peart) to be the absolute Michael Jordan of Percussion. Nowhere else can you be a witness, or for that matter -- be a listener, to what is a phenomena happening before our eyes. I cherish the fact that RUSH is still around creating new and inventive music never letting the grass grow around their feet! Neil is the pinnacle of the best! Collins is talented but nowhere near the top 10 percentile of drummers. Be glad that you have him (Peart) as the standard by which all others are compared to. TONY C. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Wodarcyk <danw@thetech.org> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:03:06 -0700 Subject: Probably not the last word on Collins vs. Peart Hello all. Here's an aside relating to the Collins vs. Peart debate which may or may not relate. For those who are aware of him, how does Chester Thompson (sp?) fit into the mix? I had the good fortune of attending one of his clinics in Columbus, Ohio years ago and was blown away watching him up close. He's more of a session guy with a strong jazz background, having been Collins' back up drummer probably from the start of his solo career. He truly has more of a "flowing" feel to his drumming than Collins, and is IMHO, much better technically than Collins, but not Peart. Chester is not the household name of course that Collins is but would give any modern rock drummer a run for their money. Again, from what I can glisten from his playing, he's more on par with Neil than Collins is. Any opinions? Dan Wodarcyk, Exhibit Designer The Tech Museum of Innovation danw@thetech.org (408) 795-6186 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "David M. Campbell" <David.Campbell@po-box.esu.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:29:21 -0500 Subject: Collins vs. Rush I almost fell out of my chair when I read comparisons attempted between Phil Collins and Neal Peart. Next thing you know, someone will be saying that Nikki Sixx is actually a better bassist than Geddy Lee. Oh, and I don't like John Petrucci. He's too good. I mean, his fingers are so fast and dexterous, and he plays with such good emotion and creativity...and that's bad. He should suck more, and then I could say that I like him as a guitarist... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: anthym@webtv.net Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:32:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: golfin in the Fish Islands Is it true that Neil vacations in the Fish Islands and that he has Phil Collins come with him, to carry his golf clubs? Someone told me this, but he is a conservative Rush fan, so I have my reservations ;-) Troll mode off/ back to lurkin Scott CttC (affix favorite Rush lyrics here) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Berkebile" <berkeb@hlthsrc.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:32:59 -0500 Subject: A long time ago, in a digest far, far away: A long time ago, in a digest far, far away: >Haven't written for a while - but I'd like to get into a drummers debate >here. Having loved Rush for nearly 20 years I'd like to know why Neil = Peart >can't loosen up on his kit. I mean if you see him live everything seems = so >intense. OK - so he's concentrating but there must come a point in his >playing where he handled the percussion without thinking. Phil Collins = on >the other hand is so ridicilousy relaxed at the kit it's unbelievable!!! = I >personally think that Collins is technically the better drummer - = utilising >more percussive sounds from electronic kits etc. Peart makes drumming = look >difficult - Collins eradicates any problems about drumming. >What do you think????? I remember, over the years, threads dealing with what, if anything, Rush owes it's fans. Simply put, I think Neil's 'seriousness' behind the set is nothing less than Neil giving us what we pay for when we go to the shows. Bryan- ---------------------------------------------------------- From: John Lupoli <jglupoli@snet.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:48:11 -0500 Subject: ARCHIVES Hi fellow Rushians, I need to ask some questions. What's the deal with Archives? I put it in my discography section on my web page because it's an official (legal) release. But, I've never seen it on cd. I've only seen it on vinyl. Since no internet cd store carries it, I marked it on my web site as "discontinued -- no longer available." Does anybody know if it is available on cd or can anybody give me some facts? Matt Lupoli Age: 14 North Haven, Ct http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Robinson <brobinson_tpa@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:56:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Phil vs. Neil I do agree that Neil is a finer percussianist than Phil, however, I believe this is due to the fact that Phil has spent considerable time broadening the range of instruments he plays (Piano/keyboards) instead of concentrating only on percussion. Perhaps if he had only focused on persussion, his chops would be right up there with Neil. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave <dave@iswest.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:16:52 -0800 Subject: Fastest guitarest: whoa, you guys just don't get it! Okay, first, I'm NOT flaming any of you gents, okay? Truely, I'm not. The point of this message is to clarify the fastest guitarest lick, especially as you jazz lovers and the like have started contributing and twisting it WAAAAY off its original mark . . . There is NO question as to TASTE guys, we weren't making a point as to who is the fastest WITH different voicings, sounds, scales, emotion, etc, NOT! MY whole entire point was simply (and it really is simple) WHO 'physically' do you think can play cleanly the most notes in a beat, PERIOD. Not how 'tastly' they do it, or how cool their ability is to 'hold back', blah blah blah, its NOT a point of STYLE, its a point of speed, nothing more, nothing less. yes, absolutely, Yngwie Malmsteen is a concieted horses ass that plays WAAY too fast to frequently without taste or emotion, etc; but who (and this really only can be realistically answered by guitar players and maybe drummers), of all the artists you've ever heard, whether you like them or their music, who can consistently play the most notes in a measure? I'd like to hear some of that Paul Gilbert guy, and I haven't heard them all, but as a guitar player of 20 years, the fastest I've ever ever heard, style aside, has been Malmsteen and Buttencort (sp). No, Malmsteen does NOT play as 'nicely' or 'pleasure to listen to' as the guy from DT and others, once again, thats not the point, I'm looking for more of a 'wow, no one on earth has EVER played that fast before, and may never again' like the Guiness Book of World Records. (And yes, this again will vary by individual). As a guitar player, I can't agree Petrucci plays faster, uh uh, nor Di Meola, no way, they may play BETTER, but not note for note faster. So come on, lets stay away from the taste issues that are polluting the original intention of this thread, were looking entirely at clean #'s here, and nothing more.... Respectfully submitted, Grundman ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jose Ramos <jose.ramos@digital.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:14:54 -0500 Subject: The rhythm method Q. What do you call a catholic woman who practices the Rhythm Method? A. Mom <rim shot> I just flew back from the Fish Islands and boy are my arms tied! <rim shot> Take my wife, please! <rim shot> Peace, Max ---------------------------------------------------------- From: j_mevorah@hwawashington.com (Jack Mevorah) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:16:40 -0500 Subject: Neil Peart Joins HELMET!!! OK ... maybe not. "Ralph Huffnagle" <rhuffnagle@hotmail.com> writes, regarding neilpeart.com: > I was a little bored so, I was checking out domain names for rush. > I typed in http://www.neilpeart.com and it took me to the Helmet > home page. What is up with that? Is Helmet Rush fans? Well, in the credits, the Eric says: I would like to thank the following: Helmet USWeb for offering a great service. A big thank you to Chris Samaritoni (chris@meantime.com) for designing this site and allowing me to take it over. Neil Peart of Rush for sparking and fueling my interest in drumming. Special thanks to: Interscope, Warner Bros., Sony, Columbia, Epitaph, Altantic, RollingStone, Spin, Rip, Guitar World, Guitar, Guitar Player, Modern Drummer, Drum!, Seconds, Alternative Press, and ... etc. If you go to www.helmet.org you'll get the same page. Maybe Eric is a fan of both and wants to bring some of us kicking and screaming to another type of music!? Maybe Neil peart is actually John Stanier. Or, maybe, its a shared love of Rush: "Stanier's staccato drumming is a Helmet mainstay. His style is the result of his combined love of punk, hip hop, and Neil Peart." Modern Drummer: October, 1994 Aaah Music - one big happy family. jack, man ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave <dave@iswest.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:44:44 -0800 Subject: Yeah, I thought the Rockline interview SUCKED! this is to Tracy. yeah, Rush mngr is right, I agree Sunday's interview was for me, the very worst interview I've ever heard since I've became a Rush fan waaaaay back before they were popular in the mid 70's. Geddy literally sounded 'apprehensive' about answering questions, and sounded 'out of it', like he had just eaten a whole bunch of antihistamines or something. Bob Coburn, bless his heart, played EVERY CLICHE Rush song that exists (do I even have to spell it out? What else, but Spirit of Radio, Closer to the Heart, Tom Sawyer, etc) instead of taking the excellent, rare opportunity to perhaps turn Joe Public on to other Rush songs by playing ANYTHING different than the above. The callers were a fairly pathetic bunch, very "hey doodz! uh, . . . . duh ummmm" and there were only a few really interesting questions, that were again weakly answered by our boys. They DID treat Neil's tragedys really nicely, but I can't STAND the way Geddy answered the question about what he thought of other current progessive bands like Dream Theater, to ME (my opinion anyways) it was like he was almost offended the girl asked and was totally afraid of voicing his opinion on the subject, kept repeating 'oh, I don't want to pass judgement on other bands'. Who knows, maybe Geddy is really sad about Neil's tragedy too, or the whole band thing, or had diarhia from a virus or something, what the hell do I know? :) Alex was his usual jovial, joking self, and breathed a little life into the whole interview, although I was both surprised and disappointed that no callers nor himself mentioned the upcoming Victor album (you shoulda plugged it Alex!!!). So this is MY opinion of the interview, others may disagree, but I really don't see how any long time Rush fan could disagree that sunday's Rockline was a pretty poor, unenlightening and rather sad interview of Rush. My biggest beef is that it was a REALLY bad first introduction if any new listeners checked in to see what 'Rush' was all about, they probably would have bailed right early! Grundman ---------------------------------------------------------- From: mrfranklin@west.raytheon.com Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Gangster of Boats >>>> >From: "Adam Loch" <lochadam@hotmail.com> > >I'm listening to Rockline...every time Rush is on Rockline, >somebody has to ask about the Gangster of Boats thing. It >drives me nuts! Maybe I'm just bitter because I'm sitting >with a good question getting busy signals, and the people >who get on ask questions that they could have read the >answers to in the FAQ. Sorry, I just needed to vent ;-) Actually, Adam, the woman who called wanted to know what Gangster of Boats was, not what the "part IV of a trilogy" meant. Whether or not she knew it was a joke, she didn't bring it up--the announcer and Alex started talking about the joke aspect. I know it's a joke and I figured it was a joke on 9/3/91, but I still want to know what Gangster of Boats is, because it appears in the HYF credits too (without the "part IV of a trilogy" joke) I believe. And I wasn't too satisfied with Alex's & Ged's answers because they didn't really elaborate. <<<< Ok, here is where Gangster of Boats came from. My source for this is my memory, which I never quote from unless I'm sure.:) I heard it or read it in an interview... We all know the Geddy and Alex can get pretty silly (I don't mean goofy, or funny, i mean downright giggly silly) at times, especially during recording or writing sessions waiting for Neil to do whatever it is he's doing. I bring this up because 'Gangster of Boats' is an incredibly silly phrase that makes no sense whatsoever and is an affront to anyone who is trying to do something literate. I don't know where or how they actually came up with Gangster of Boats while working on Presto, but they did and it stuck as a silly Ged and Alex phrase. Apparently, Neil was having a difficult time in naming what would become the Presto CD. Geddy and Alex would threaten to name it 'Gangster of Boats' to *inspire* Neil to quit dawdling come up with an album title. Mark ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "bobby d" <bobbyd35@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:32:25 PST Subject: RUSH sighting... It happened this past weekend when I took my family to Disney World in Orlando. We went to a restaraunt called "RaceRock" after a long day at Magic Kindom. The music was a variety of various rock songs played very loud. This place had an awesome sound system. I was trying to talk with the family and wasn't listening to the music. All of the sudden "Freewill" started pumping through the entire place. This is one of my favorite Rush songs. I couldn't believe it. All the sudden, I started jamming to it at the table, playing my air bass. My kids were trying to talk to me and my wife said, "Kids leave daddy alone, he's in a Rush moment." I made everyone stop talking, kids included, to listen to Geddy's bass intro/solo before the lead jam. What a moment. It made my evening! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Baker" <tbaker@dreamscape.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:05:24 -0500 Subject: Neil's solos The review of the DS album posted on the 1/25 TNMS was absolutely = disgusting. As a drummer who has been playing for nearly 30 years, i = can say without a doubt that Neil's solos are the HIGHLIGHT of any live = album for me, and his DS solo was absolutely killer! Anyone who knows = drumming knows there is far more to being a "musical" drummer than the = usual fare of lightning fast rolls and double bass offered by most rock = drummers in their solos. I began my career by playing jazz, and the = snare work in the beginning was sharp and precise. My brother and I = were front row center for the opening show of the TFE Tour in Albany, NY = and it was an experience we will never forget. I don't think the author = of that review has a clue of what Rush is really about. Probably a = refugee from the days of disco and bell bottom pants... Thanks for the memories Geddy, Alex, and Neil....we all hope there are = many more to come! Tom Baker tbaker@dreamscape.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan F" <northern_flight@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:31:20 PST Subject: Rockline transcript There's a transcript of the January 20 ROCKLINE show now available on the Web. I made it available at no charge to those who sent me a request, and was absolutely swamped. It's great to get such positive feedback, so soon and in such quantity! So, here's the web address: http://www.cadvision.com/gantond/rush.html ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Ayers" <lerxst@voicenet.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:13:07 -0500 Subject: Philabuster Just wanted to return a moment to the Phil Collins / Neil debate. I would like to say about Phil that he has done something Neil never has = (and probably never will) done. Phil has crafted two hit songs that are = purely drum-driven. "In The Air Tonight" and "I Don't Care Anymore" are = two of the songs that led me to Phil-fandom in the early 80's and then = "Mama" from Genesis continued that trend. And don't forget "Man on the = Corner." Phil is one of the few, or maybe the only, musicians who has = done this. These songs revolve around the drums and, yet, do not sound = like drum solos. This was when I thought Phil was one of the best. = Back then, I would accept the argument that Phil can be compared to = Neil. Just like, back then, I would consider the members of Led = Zeppelin to have superior artistic output to Rush. Both opinions have = changed since then. =20 Dave "The Cranes of Maine have your living brain?" - Niles Crane ---------------------------------------------------------- From: migonef@loki.stockton.edu Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:17:18 -0500 Subject: Michael Jordan? > Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:49:19 -0500 > Subject: Collins vs. Peart > > Neil Peart is the Michael Jordan of drums. > > Matt Uhh....I think I get what you're trying to say (That Neil rules!), but I think you've chosen a bad example to use. Neil doesn't do toothpaste, sneaker, razor, car, inflatable woman, slomin shield, whatever,etc. etc. commercials, not to mention bad cartoon/live action movies. It's because of jackasses like him that athletic shoes are 150 bucks a pop. Neil has a bit more integrity than that. (Don't wanna be- Don't wannabe like Mike!) FM ---------------------------------------------------------- From: nickb@teleport.com Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:44:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Nick, Ignorance, Which Nick? > From: "Rob Godwin" <hoodgo@ro.com> > Subject: Nick, Harbinger of Ignorance > > Fellow Rush fans and one lone disciple of benightedness, [cheast-beating deleted] Hey, since there are more than one of us subscribing, you might want to be careful to point out *which* Nick you think is such an idiot. While I've often ranted about the very same things, it certainly wasn't me to whom you were referring with your impotent diatribe. Whatever. Another "liberal" Nick ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Kurt Smith <earlkese@erols.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:51:33 -0800 Subject: Garth and Phil. Good evening all. Bravado wrote that he hoped he didn't offend any Garth Brooks fans. I got a good chuckle out of that. Wouldn't worry about that too much in this arena. Regarding Phil Collins--anyone who has listen to earlier Genesis cannot deny his skills. Yes, he is a very good drummer (I'm sure he has said so many times himself). Is he better than Neil? A subjective question that I cannot answer--which kills me, because Phil Collins really gets on my nerves. The gradual destruction of Genesis' integrity combined with the Michelob commercials and Phil's boundless ego really makes me want to say he can eat Neil's shorts. Unfortunately I can't do that. But the one place I KNOW Neil has him beat is in imaginative fills. More when I have time... Kurt ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas <tommer@execpc.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:18:57 -0600 Subject: Rush sighting...er...hearing! Hey folks: A friend of mine and I attended a Milwaukee Admirals game this past Saturday, (the Admirals are the IHL team here in Milwaukee) and low and behold, the lights go out, and the remixed version of Tom Sawyer starts playing while they're introducing the home team! I've been to a few Admirals' games before, although this is the first one I attended this season, but I was totally blown away. My friend, who is also a huge Rush fan, and I just looked at each other with wide eyes, and then burst out laughing. Just thought I'd share that with all of ya. Cheers... Tom P.S. Admirals won 4-3! And there were 3 fights in the game! Damn, hockey rools!! :-D ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith Carnevale" <analogkd@nh.ultranet.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:32:02 -0500 Subject: Rockline Questions I couldn't get the Rockline show where I live. (Portsmouth, New = Hampshire) I read in The NMS that there were some stupid questions = asked. I have one question. WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE? Those of us who can't = get through rely on the ones that do to ask intelligent questions. Maybe = next time. Does anyone plan to transcribe the show?=20 Oh, one more thing. Can anyone tell me who the Gangster of Boats is? = Just kidding :) Keith ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Laurie Roberts <lroberts@home.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:59:23 -0800 Subject: Fastest guitarists Hi everyone, I've been seeing a few names mentioned as far as who some of the fastest guitarists are, but I haven't seen the names 'Jason Becker' or 'Joe Stump' come up yet. (If I missed them, I apologize in advance) These are two incredible guitar players who I thought should also be recognized. If you're curious, check them out at: JoeStump.com JasonBecker.com Thanks for your time, Laurie ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Oderwald" <toderwald@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:33:09 EST Subject: Air Peart In the Collins vs. Peart debate, 'Matt' ( mmaholch@kusd.kusd.edu ) wrote... <snip> Neil Peart is the Michael Jordan of drums. >...to which I reply... I agree with matt. But who is the Lattrell Spreewell of drums? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian T. Peterson" <dreamline@twoalpha.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:17:14 -0700 Subject: Dream Theater, DS, video, future, etc. Hello Rush freaks! I have not posted in months but I have kept up with all the posts. I would appreciate comments on the following issues. Please e-mail me with possible answers or comments. 1) Did I hear correctly? Dream Theater lost a keyboardist again? I also thought I saw somewhere that DT changed their name or something. What is going on in the DT world? Also, what size of venues does DT play in while on tour? And, what in the hell does James LaBrie do on stage during the long instrumental parts of songs where there is no singing? 2) I have to agree with Antony's post in #2168 on Petrucci. Petrucci's solo in "Lines of the Sand" is absolutely incredible. LaBrie's vocals that follow the solo are a perfect compliment. I also love how Petrucci played guitar at the beginning and middle of "Hollow Years" on the live CD. Petrucci really knows how to add feeling and depth to his playing. DT's "Once in a Live Time," IMO, is definitely a worthwhile live CD to purchase. 3) When is the DS video due out? Rush-mgr, have you heard anything? Geddy had stated in the fall that they were working on one. 4) The GrandDesigns website says that "Rush will be returning to the studios in March to work on a T4E follow-up to be released on 12/31/99." What is the source of the information and is it accurate? I believe we will see another studio album from Rush and a small tour yet, it's just a matter of when. 5) "Analog Kid" on DS was recorded at the Palace of Auburn Hills. This was the same show that the highly acclaimed "Critical Mass" bootleg, from Prism, originated from. Has anyone else noticed that the "Analog Kid" on DS sounds nothing like the one on "Critical Mass"? For one thing, Geddy comes in a little late with the vocals on the Critical Mass version. What's the deal? I know that's a lot of questions, but I'd sure appreciate any feedback! Brian "We travel in the dark of the new moon" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Chuck Flowers <cmoney2@juno.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:49:01 -0600 Subject: lack of phil Someone recently said: >Subject: live albums >Some you might want to try are: >Genesis- Seconds Out (Phil plays pretty good drums on this album) Actually, Phil doesn't really drum much on this album, he's too busy singing. But Chester Thompson does. And he's good. So is Phil. c money ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian_Farquharson@stratus.com Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 02:26:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Red Barchetta on UK T.V. Just to clear up what's been going on with the barchetta's on the T.V. here. I've always promised myself one since FIAT started making them in 1995. I finally managed to dump the company car last year and immediately set about looking for a red one. (no other colour would do...) They are pretty rare in the uk, but popular in Germany, so I had one imported here. It's been the best car I've ever had, and with a proper stereo, amp, and big speakers there's frankly nothing to compare to blasting down some country lane on a sunday morning (early of course, before all the crap cars go to church) with the obvious on the cd player. Being a FIAT it's got 'intelligent electrical components', but the engine is fine except for a sticking varaiable timing component. They invariably get stuck, and turn the car into a rough diesel at tick-over. Watchdog were very good at badgering FIAT u.k. and had them agree to fix the problem finally (I bet...) for free, saving the members of our owners club, and those we haven't yet linked up with 400GBP each time. I'll never sell it, and I strongly doubt my nephew will be getting to drive it in 15 years time. If anyone wants to know more, take a look at http://www.fiatbarchetta.com, which hosts the main website for all the clubs in Europe. Sorry, for those in North America, you can't get one... You'll have to stick to mx-5's -- they'll probably never go wrong, but they'll never be a barchetta. Still they look nice from the front, which is the angle most often seen, in my rearview mirror :) Ian Farquharson +44(0)181 607 1011 (work) +44(0)385 262056 (gsm) ian_farquharson@stratus.com (work) ian@farquharson.demon.co.uk (other) ICQ: 25528408 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ashim <sash@bdonline.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:35:28 +0600 Subject: phrasingtiming/tone/John Petrucci First, JOHN PETRUCCI IMO Petrucci cannot be labelled the best guitarist alive. If you're a DT fan, then really, you're missing the obvious. I'm not accusing him of plagiarism, NO!! But I have never heard him play a solo that's his own style--- he doesn't have his own style!! He is an amalgamation of a variety of different styles belonging to his idols--- namely Al DiMeola, Steve Morse, Steve Howe, Brian May, David Gilmour, Ritchie Blackmore, etc. I listen to him, and I cannot help but think "Here he's a mini Steve Morse... now he's Brian May..." John Petrucci does a very good affectation of all of those, and he is thus able to combine them. This is a credit, but his genius lies more in the fiendish rhythmic devices he invents with Mike Portnoy and also to some extent, the conversations he has with the keyboard player. In an interview in GW he said that he picked up Al DiMeola songs from records played at half-speed and that's how he learnt to play. I don't even think he's a great soloist--- he doesn't have an identity of his own. I'd place somebody like, say, Marty Friedman above him, let alone all the aforementioned idols that are still alive and kicking. My vote for favourite guitarist alive goes jointly to a) John McLaughlin ('nuff said already) and b) Steve Morse - who's a blend of diverse influences, but the result is quite unrecognisable. And man, can he soar. Listen to 'Sometimes I feel like Screaming..." on Deep Purple's Perpendicular. GUITAR TONE Best tone in recent years - Adrian Utley of PORTISHEAD. Trust me, my vote is highly informed. Eric Johnson is called the 'king of tone' by his colleagues, and yes, he *is* amazing, but my choice of Adrian Utley is unequivocal. Utley uses a Gibson ES-335, with a Roland Space Echo, a Big Muff, and a range of crusty old vintage amps labelled by a BBC technician as being "70% lethal". Literally. David Gilmour- for inventing the 'doppola cabinet'. Hear it on Comfortably Numb, live on 'Pulse'. And die. :-) John McLaughlin - on the 'Birds of Fire' album. Frank Zappa later admiringly labelled his tone on this album as 'Stinkin'. Coming from Zappa, that means something! And the tone *is* perverse. Robert Johnson- Delta Blues. These are the sounds I would trade in my arms for! PHRASINGTIMING Phrasingtiming- the new buzzword of TNMS. To the guy who gave it to us, this is not a flame, but that lesson was uncalled for. We were discussing speed and who is fast and who isn't. We were not discussing who is the greatest. Speed has its place in the Western Classical tradition and is also of prime importance in the Indian Classical Tradition. I'm sure you've heard of Ravi Shankar? Players strive all their lives to attain the technique and power to be able to adequately express themselves. THE GUITAR IS AN INSTRUMENT --- Technical virtuosity has its place in the tradition of every musical instrument. Let us not completely abandon age old musical philosophy, ok? SPEED IS VERY IMPORTANT. SPEED IS NOT AS EASY AS IT SOUNDS. Once again, I'm talking about guys like McLaughlin and Jason Becker. Not Holdsworth or Satriani. IMO it has been a worthwhile thread --- the question of speed is less subjective than say the question of who plays with more emotion. ;-) Take it easy, Ashim. ----------------------------------------------------------
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