The National Midnight Star #2120

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Rush midis from sheet music. Different Stages 3CD Test Pressing weirdos,geeks,and freaks... The Top 10 Poll and DS release date Permanent Waves Girl and Hugh Syme TSOR - Live Rush games Bay Area DS listening party? Cover versions "Hey kids, do you like the rock&roll?" DS versions of SOR & 2112... NEIL IS DEAD!!!! Re: Album Premiere DS questions Different Stages on the radio Chef special RUSH sighting Spirit of Radio MP3 SHAMELESS PLUG RUSH SIGHTING COMING SOON!!! My Top Ten lousy radio ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rush-mgr@tnms.com (The RUSH Fans Digest manager) Date: Tue Oct 20 12:46:49 PDT 1998 Subject: Administrivia Had a busy weekend and was out all day yesterday yelling at routers (which still wouldn't do what I wanted them too), so no NMS was sent yesterday. The rest of this week will be crazy for me (my brother's getting married on Saturday!) so the digests will be hit & miss. I've updated the horizons song, the radio station list and the release party. I've also added to the radio list if the station will be playing the album premiere on November 4th. If they aren't playing the new stuff on your radio station, start bugging 'em! Oh yeah, if you're in San Diego get your rear to the Tragically Hip show tonight down at 4th & B, tix only $15!! - rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "M. Jacobs" <sasha@inlink.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:10:43 -0500 Subject: Rocktober Max Dobberstein I salute you! Thanks to your heads-up about Rush being = the Rocktober artist of the day on KSHE, I heard Manhattan Project, = Battlescar & Red Barchetta at work this afternoon (after my RealPlayer = finally connected). On the way home I heard The Trees & Limelight. = Every week should end like that. Thanks man. Jake ---------------------------------------------------------- From: kgmacrae@auracom.com (Ken MacRae) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Canuck at heart ? As a canuck (sadly with no connections to "the powers that be") I would gladly nominate the Rush Mgr as an "honorary Canadian". Certainly Dual citizenship should be bestowed. After all, not only does she honour the Great White North threesome (GWNT ... trade mark reg), but the NMS web site >... under the "Broaden your Horizons " section, has also suggested such other great Canadian bands as Our Lady Peace, and the Tragically Hip. I have also seen mention of I Mother Earth. Way to go Rush Mgr. [ Don't worry, IME will be showing up there too! I was trying to spread the Canadian bands out a bit, and not have them all in one week :-) : rush-mgr ] May I also suggest great new Canadian Bands such as Big Wreck, and Econoline Crush. Both are great. For you old timers there is Kim Mitchell and Max Webster and Triumph. There are many more too numerous to mention ... it depends on your tastes. For example, the band "Barenaked Ladies" are extremely talented ... just not my cup of tea. Speaking of which, did I mention The Tea Party ? Hey Rush Mgr ... I'd sign your immigration papers. >...Ken, the Rushosapien "Why push for perfection when I'm making successful mistakes ?" >...The Tragically Hip ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian T. Peterson" <dreamline@twoalpha.net> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:09:26 -0600 Subject: DS single Hi everyone, I've been reading the digests, but its been awhile since I've posted. Does anyone know where I can find the Different Stages single that has "The Pass" on it? I must have it! Please e-mail me privately. Also, our main rock radio station cannot play DS yet. DAMNIT!!! Later, Brian "We travel in the dark of the new moon" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "van Damage" <damage88@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:54:26 PDT Subject: No Rush on London ON radio! To those in the SW-Ontario area, I called FM96 today (the only station around London that might play new Rush) and asked the program director about the new Rush single. He told me it wasn't out yet. (Ha!) So I asked if they'd play it "when it did come out," to which he responded, "No, because it's live and we don't play live stuff." Well that's just lame. So repeat after me: FM96 sucks canal water! Damage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/6756/rush.htm ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "James M." <hopeflguy@sprint.ca> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:57:24 -0400 Subject: DS on Nov.4 Different Stages will be world premiered on Canadian radio on Weds, Nov.4 (not the 9th, like in the U.S) I heard this on 97.7 Htz-FM. It should also be on Q107 in Toronto, so for anybody who has real audio, you can pick up Q107 by going to www.Q107.com, and clicking on "Listen live..". Q107 is also playing SoR on HIGH rotation, and 2112 at least a few times a day. James - "All of us get lost in the darkness... Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.." Neil Peart, Rush, "The Pass" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rinckster@webtv.net (The Rinckster) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Rushing around Central Pennsylvania Rushains: 93.5 WTPA The Rock Station 105.7 WQXA The X Caught TSOR on 935 tonight from DS. Man, that was just an excellent kick in the ass!! I could only feel one thing...like I was standing at the E Center watching the band. Honest...it was that intense. I am so excited about the new album coming out!! Call these stations and tell them, .....n ORDER them to paly the hell out of the new Rush album. Tell them that you want them to make a VERY big deal out of this tremendous new Rush release. Above all, tell them that you PATRONIZE THIER SPONSORS!!!....and, by doing so, you want your music to be played. Angels fear to tread where Rush fools in. serenity • courage • wisdom • just for today ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rich Malitz" <pickout2@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:22:10 PDT Subject: Different Stages Premier in Chicago I have heard on 103.5 FM here in Chicago will be premiering most of Different Stages on Wednesday, November 4th, sometime in the evening. I have been begging for the stations here to play something other than TSOR, but... I will be listening tomorrow for 2112 and/or Limelight as it is Rush day on our other "Rush" station, 97.9. Since I have to work 9-6, this shouldn't be hard! I wish my roommate still worked at the radio station! Rich ---------------------------------------------------------- From: SWEDGE@webtv.net (SCOTT WEDGE) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Witch Hunt Art Brown asked about an interpretation on the song "Witch Hunt" - from whose viewpoint is it told? Well, I see it from the on-lookers point of view. "The night is black, without a moon.... The vigilantes gather on......Those who know what's best for US, must rise and save us from ourselves....etc.etc...." I just see it as a story that is told by someone who is very wise, but very saddened by what is taking place (maybe Neil!) - not from someone who is a direct victim to the atrocity described. I vision someone around a campfire telling stories of old (thowing in some Hemispheres here). Or maybe I'm having visions of Sesame Street & Romper Room in my head??!? Hey, all you boneheads (including the rush-mgr) talking about tinker-toys has made me feel nostalgic. I'm 33 yrs old and right now I feel like playing with my Hot Wheels!! (which I still have............ don't ask!) Scott Wedge - swedge@webtv.net Auburn MBA Graduate - Class of '94 WAR EAGLE!!!!!! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Hawkfeathr@cinti.net Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:03:49 -0400 Subject: re: the great tinkertoy debate >Sorry, rush-mgr, but I can't imagine that Hugh placed the pieces in that >configuration on a whim! I have a tough time believing it's not symbolic of SOMETHING also, but probably Hugh had reasons for why he created it this way...and believe me, I'd love to get into some projection about the cover! When I first saw it what occured to me was : what does it *mean*??? But good design has a certain logic, so regardless of, if it means that Ged and Alex had tinkertoys when they were growing up while Neil did not (????), or that drummers are somehow more enlightened that guitar and bass players (????), Hugh did not place the images on a whim. Wahhhh, rush-mgr, let us go off on this! It'll keep us from drooling while WAITING. Meow. Oh, hey, I saw Mickey Hart & Planet Drum on Wednesday. Pretty good drummin'. Peace from Cincinnati --- Elise *************************** "Often criticised for lyrical pretension and musical grandstanding - unkind critics have suggested that Rush is exactly what you get if you let your drummer write your songs for you, they nevertheless still remain Canada's leading rock attraction." --- From the CDNow Rush Biography *************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Sed2962@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:41:06 EDT Subject: T4E Video I just picked up a video copy of the Test For Echo concert. The show was recorded in Toronto on June 30, 1997. The video is 2 hrs. and 42 min. long on standard play. The view is from stage right, approx. 8-10 rows back. The quality of the video is very good. The quality of the sound is good, but not great. I was first dissapointed in the beginning with the view, only Alex due to obstructions, but by the third song, the view is improved and Geddy and Alex are in good view. Neil is right behind Geddy so he is blocked out for most of the video (bummer for us drummers). There are cameras at the concert for video taping for the official video. Sometimes that camera boom is in the view. Overall, the video is pretty good. The song list is as follows: 2001 open/Dreamline, Limelight, Stick It Out, Driven(the view is much improved at this point), Half the World, Red Barchetta, Animate, Limbo, The Trees, Virtuality, Nobody's Hero, Closer to the Heart, 2112, Test for Echo, Freewill, Red Sector A, Roll the Bones, Resist, Leave My Thing Alone, drum solo(including Momo's Dance Party), Natural Science, Force 10,Spirit of Radio, Tom Sawyer (complete with three dancing puppets on the amps!) , and YYZ for the encore. E-mail me for details if interested. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dennis Pupello II" <dpupello@gate.net> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:05:45 -0400 Subject: Different Stages version of The Spirit of Radio Oh baby, chills! Returning to work from lunch today, I happened to catch the last half of the song. Have to say: it rocks. Couldn't help but air-drum. Dunno what my co-workers might think seeing my arms flailing around in a parked car, but who gives a shite. There's nothing like playing along with every thunderous tom-fill and ride-pattern. And to be honest, before hearing the tune today, I was less excited by a live album than a new studio release. But my tune has changed! So to speak. >.mp3's anyone? Dennis Pupello II Internet mail: dpupello@gate.net WWW personal: http:/www.gate.net/~dpupello/ Work e-mail: webmaster@ci.brooksville.fl.us WWW govt: http://www.ci.brooksville.fl.us/ ICQ# 308016 WWW: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/308016 IRC: #quake, #deathmatch, #florida: YyzSinned 352-544-5435 x126 Work Work Work -- Mel Brooks ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Grand Designs <gdesigns@idt.net> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:55:59 -0700 Subject: only immortal for a limited time > [ Hey I had tinker toys, lincoln logs, a lite brite, shrinky dinks, > a thingmaker 2, weeble wobbles, and LOTS of legos. Have I dated > myself yet? :-) : rush-mgr ] Hey. You forgot those (brightly colored) pickup sticks and that "neat-o" etch-O-Sketch thingy. [ I never had an etch-a-sketch or pick-up stix. But I did have a thingmaker 2! : rush-mgr ] Excuse me while put my false in a glass by the bed. Hmph. Against the run of the mill Static as it seems We break the surface tension With our wild, kinetic dreams ********************************* Visit the Grand Designs Rush Site http://members.xoom.com/gdesigns/ ********************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Smith <bacchus@azstarnet.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:23:00 -0700 Subject: trent reznor and other fun stuff > one name: Norman Greenbaum. Another: Trent Reznor. Another: Tony > Iommi. Another: Randy Rhoads. Sorry, but rock is FILLED with > distortion on studio albums. Trent Reznor doesn't play the guitar or anything else except keys as far as I know.... Adrian Belew is the one playing those crazy distorted guitars in Nine Inch Nails (at least in _The Downward Spiral_). Sorry to rock the boat :-) Anyone else have or heard of the Metallica video "Cliff 'Em All?" I got it today and it's really cool. The girl I like comes back to school from the East next week.... AHHH.... gotta love that silly teenage romance. Alex Smith bacchus@azstarnet.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "The Lanums" <klanum@sos.net> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:05:58 -0700 Subject: KISW I found out my that my wife did email them earlier today. They played = the reunion of Black Sabbath as their "test drive" song tonight. It was = OK, but... Don't understand the problem, they played a lot during and = for a long time after the T4E tour. =20 Kevin Lanum ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim+Sibel" <musi@surf.net.tr> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:35:19 +0200 Subject: What a Concept To all the RUSH fans, I am still a fairly new member to the list. In fact, I never knew = anything like this was possible. I have been a RUSH fanATIC for over 18 = yrs (I'm 30) now. I have all their recordings in record, cassette and = CD. To me RUSH is more than just a "favorite" group, it's like a = parallel religion. Although personal convictions associated with the = traditional religions aside, RUSH has inspired me throughout my life. I = know there are people out there who feel the same (heck, I may be = preaching to the choir). I can't explain it, the mysticism is evident = in every song. My wife tends to think I go a little overboard with RUSH = memorabilia, so know it's all confined into my computer room (sort of = like a sanctuary). There is something that I would love to share with = the other members of the list but especially RUSH (that'll never happen) = is an artwork that I painted in 1988. It depicts a dream of sorts = combining the album covers of (Hemispheres, Signals, Grace Under = Pressure, Moving Pictures and of course Hold Your Fire (their latest = masterpiece of the time). It's approximately 2' x 3' and its in my = hallway. I wonder if it could be digitally reproduced? A final note, = RUSH as mentioned before, has been a part of me for approximately 18 = yrs. For instance, "After Image" meant sooooooo much to me when my = father suddenly passed away in 1991. I vividly remember playing the = song continuously throughout the day to help me release some of the = emotions and cry. I found much comfort in that. That is one of the = hundreds of instances in my life which RUSH has been a key player. If = there are others like me that find similar comfort (not just liking or = loving the group) you can contact me off line to share similar stories = (musi@surf.net.tr) . =20 For now, I am happy to have found an outlet to share similar thoughts = regarding RUSH which I never thought existed. =20 Final note, my condolences to the Peart family.=20 If we need too much attention it gets hard to overrule So often fragile power turns to scorn and ridicule Sometimes our big splashes Are just ripples in the pool...=20 (I hope the lyrics are right it was from my "Archives" in the head) Jim =20 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Shane Cargill <scargill@omen.com.au> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:17:56 +0800 Subject: Greatings from La Villa Strangiato! G'Day Rush Fans! This is my inaugural posting to TNMS. I have been a Rush fan for many years now, but only recently found out about this fantastic digest. After getting a feel for the postings for a while, I thought I'd add my 2c worth. I say greatings from La Villa Strangiato, because thats exactly what this "Weird City" is. Picture this - Rush CD's in music stores - few and far between. Rush T-shirts - non -existant Rush Videos - good luck! Rush posters - yeah nice try Rush Misc. Merchandise - forget it!!! Sorry if this sort of scenario would give you nightmares, but I live it! But I think the worst thing is something that you guys complain a lot about too. Most TNMS digests have had at least one "The local radio station only plays TS, TSOR and a couple of other oldies". Wanna know what the local radio stations say here when I ask them to play some Rush? "Rush? Who are they?" Hrmmpph. So if you think your city's radio stations are giving you a raw Rush deal.....ha! Try living here! Anyway...now that I've had my little whinge, I'd better say that living here in Perth, Australia isn't so bad (appart from that fact that the chances of Rush ever playing here is ZERO). While I'm at it, this is also a Test For Echo for other Aussie Rush fans. I have only noticed one other Aussie post of late (G'Day Billy Oz). For rest of you wanting to expand your HORIZONS down here, I thought I'd recommend a couple of Aussie bands that you might like to check out. Hoodoo Gurus - My fav Aussie band (and 2nd overall to Rush). Check out their best of album "Electric Soup" Spy vs Spy - A band that is very underrated here..great sound and lyrics. Best of album is "The Spy File" Enough babbling from this Aussie for one posting. Looking forward to DS in November. I probably wont be able to get my hands on a copy until a little while after the US release date, so if you wouldn't mind, please don't post any reviews or analysis of DS until after I have a copy. (Oh look out the window....a flying pig ;-) ) Cheers. BlueBro. Shane Cargill AFL Footy Tipping Page - http://www.omen.com.au/~scargill/footytipping ---------------------------------------------------------- From: GianFranco Fiocco <gfiocco@iname.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:00:51 -0500 Subject: Rush midis from sheet music. Hi you all, I read people asking for good Rush midis written from real sheet music. I wrote 80% of my midis note by note from that source so the notes are right, (don't have too much complains). Check them out at my site: http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/1499/rushmidi.html Email me for any comment, request or correction. Thanks a lot. __________________________________ GianFranco Fiocco E-Mail: gfiocco@iname.com E-Mail: gfiocco@amnet.com.pe Telf: (51-1) 275-1273 Lima, Peru. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Wright" <Jim@resist.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:14:24 +0100 Subject: Different Stages 3CD Test Pressing Hi There, Anyone interested in checking out what the Different Stages 3CD Atlantic Test Pressing looks like along with detailed info and different track listing please check out www.resist.demon.co.uk/diffstage.htm Take Care. Jim Jim@resist.demon.co.uk www.resist.demon.co.uk ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Roberto Schiavon <rschiavon@techs.com.br> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:11:00 -0300 Subject: weirdos,geeks,and freaks... You know, I kind of must say something about it. I'm a Rush fan and I don't consider myself a weirdo like that guy stated one of these days here. Maybe some of the readers out there would consider me a weirdo guy just becouse I'm writing from Brazil but I really can't help them... Anyway, I live in a middletown here and I know some Rush fans, so I can tell you: at least around here, the Rush fans are not as weird as that guy said all Rush fans are.Of course, all the Rush fans care a little more about how good the musicians are playing; all Rush fans have a little more interest in lyrics that means something else than the "I love you" stuff and I sure think that the Rush fans have a different point of view about the world becouse the band that we love is different and we get something from it. But I still don't think that, If I'm a weirdo in some aspect of my life, It's becouse of my fave band.See you later. Bye! PS: My other favourite bands: * Beatles * R.E.M * Yes * AC/DC * Deep Purple * Queen * Paul McCartney PS2: If someone out there could really have any idea about it, please tell me why Rush never toured in South America, I would really like to know. I don't know If some of you already know that but Brazil already is a place to tour for most of the bands out there. Right here in Brazil I went to concerts from U2, Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Jethro Tull, Deep Purple, Yes, AC/DC,etc... Eric Clapton played here , Jeff Beck is playing here this month, Van Halen played here in 1983, Metallica plays here since 1989. I know that our country is a little bit far and the cost of the production is a little bit high, but they must know about the number of fans they have here, so I keep asking myself why they don't came here to play at least a couple of shows for us.Thank you all. Bye! PS3: I know that listening "Different Stages" for the first time - in 24 days or something like that - will be one of the most awesome experiences of my life. I'm trying to prepare myself for that although it's helpless... BYE! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: SCOTT FABIRKIEWICZ <scooter13@home.com> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:46:29 -0500 Subject: The Top 10 Poll and DS release date WARNING!!!!! Rather lengthy post ahead! Hey Rush Fans, I'm jumping on the bandwagon that was started by David Ayres, and seconded by Chris Dodd. IT IS interesting to hear what other Rush fans are listening to. Already I have heard a couple of names that have raised my eyebrows, making think I have to go give them a listen. Saga and Talk Talk are the two I am talking about. Remember those two from the early MTV days. I'm talking about the JJ Jackson/Martha Quinn days. Here is my Top 10. Rush is not ranked, they are in a class of their own, so to speak: 1.Yes - wonderful, beautiful music 2.Pink Floyd 3.Joe Satriani - one of the few rock guitarist better than Alex IMHO 4.King's X 5.Genesis - all of it, from early Gabriel to later Phil Collins 6.Dream Theatre 7.Sarah MacLachlan - wonderful voice, wonderful songwriter 8.Emerson, Lake, and Palmer 9.Nine Inch Nails - love Reznor's power of emotion 10.Duncan Sheik - Rupert Hine has produced both of his albums Honorable Mention: Our Lady Peace, Shawn Colvin, Suzanne Vega, Chantal Kreviazuk, October Project, Soulhat, Queensryche, Extreme, Natalie Imbruglia, Tragically Hip, Collective Soul, Dick Siegel, and the Dave Matthews Band. As for my other love Jazz: The Rippingtons, Fourplay, Rick Braun (trumpet), Boney James (sax), Peter White (guitar), Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Nicholas Payton (trumpet), 3rd Force (new age - jazz), Pat Metheny (guitar), Jeff Berlin (bass), Victor Wooten (bass), Earthworks (Bill Bruford), Weather Report (Jaco Pastorius), and Return to Forever (Al DiMeola and Stanley Clarke). I have one other question: Will the real release date please stand up?! I know that release dates are subject to change, but this is ridiculous. It seems like all the press releases people post here agree don't with each other. I have asked my local record shops (still call them that, old habits never die), but they don't have any info on DS yet. Are we to believe Atlantic Records (Nov. 10), or are we going to have to go on call for two weeks? Just wondering, because I remember Presto showing up in stores two weeks early here in Detroit (if my memory is correct). If anybody can shed a little light on this, I, and probably others, would appreciate it. Take care. Scott Fabirkiewicz Three goals for Shanny on Banner Night! Three Cups for Hockeytown?! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik DePoy <depoy@com2com.ru> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:01:08 +0300 Subject: Permanent Waves Girl and Hugh Syme Considering all this recent talk of the Different Stages tinker toy art, it seems like a good time to bring up a subject related to Rush's album designs. In particular, what was the significance of the girl on the cover of Permanent Waves? I had the PeW cover art installed as wallpaper on my computer (thanks Hanstones, visit his Syrinx Award-winning page at http://www.2112/net/powerwindows) but unfortunately my wife caught a glimpse of it. Of course I got an earful and had to change to the Hold Your Fire art. This was a bit embarassing of course, but it did get me wondering what Hugh was really up to when he put together this (ahem) interesting cover. Hugh ought to put together a book of all his Rush-related art, sort of like what Storm Thorgerson did with Mind Over Matter: The Images of Pink Floyd. Such a book would contain all the designs that Hugh created, along with preliminary sketches, alternate designs, tourbook graphics, etc. Hugh could write up liner notes and present it as a coffee-table book like Storm did. Perhaps it could be included as part of a future Rush CD-ROM or DVD project. If anyone who knows Hugh is reading this, ask him what he thinks. Erik DePoy Lyubertsy, The Russian Federation ---------------------------------------------------------- From: John Elliott <johnnye@txdirect.net> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:24:10 -0500 Subject: TSOR - Live Ok Folks, I want to offer a different opinion of the "Different Stages" version of TSOR. I AM DISAPPOINTED !! The drums sound way too fast, Alex isn't hitting all the notes on the appregio chorus and it just lacks the overall power of the original. Hell, even the Exit Stage Left version of TSOR sounds better, and that one stinks too. I will be getting the CD just like everyone else out there, but I just wanted to give you an honest opinion of that particular song. I am a bit peeved that Time and Motion didn't make it to the CD as well. I was not fortunate enough to see it performed live. That is one of the best Rush songs released in a long time. It has that Hemispheres feel to it. If anyone sincerely feels that alot of effort went into this Live CD, I have to believe that you are sadly mistaken. I agree that mixing a live album and putting it together can be a tedious process, but come on...I could have picked a better version of TSOR to put on the CD. I hope the rest of the CD doesn't let me down. I am not a big fan of live albums. If Rush's live albums had anything to offer besides the way they are presented in studio, then I would be happier. I have some old bootleg stuff that catches some unique changes and moments in the songs. Those are priceless. Alex's extended solo on Bravado is awesome. I hope that is included on this CD. I know this post has been a bit harsh, but there are plenty of you out there saying " Yeah ! He's right ...". You know who you are. I am definitely looking forward to Alex's new CD and Rush's new stuff in....*Gulp* Y2K. See ya ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Barnes <edbarnes@pdq.net> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:32:13 -0500 Subject: Rush games > We used to play a game with Rush lyrics. I would "chat" 2,3 or 4 words = > and a friend would name the song... this would be fun to do on a chat = > window someplace on the TNMS web site... > > >...the melody Several of my friends and I would play the same game on long drives. "Willows in the breeze", "Let them eat cake", etc. After firing one thier way I'd see them kinda drift off as their brain sort through hours of lyrics! :) Funny to see others playing the same game... We'd often thow out an eay one, "Mean, mean pride" for those on the drive who weren't quite as dedicated fans. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: RushF1@aol.com Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:12:12 EDT Subject: Bay Area DS listening party? Fellow DS owners-in-waiting: In spite of the tradition of Bay Area radio (i.e., no stations worth a damn play any Rush at all, except for the occasional song on KSJO), I was wondering if anyone has any plans to have a DS listening party anywhere in the Bay Area on the 9th. (Don't get me started----the lack of Rush on the airwaves here is pretty shameful). Also, rush-mgr., do you (or anyone else, for that matter) know of any plans for DS t-shirts, hats, etc. to be sold by the Backstage Club or any third party? Jerry ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Haswell <ehaswell@ualberta.ca> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:17:07 -0600 Subject: Cover versions Hello all... It is my pleasure to have been reading the NMS for several years on and off, and I share your enthusiasm for the upcoming live album!! Oh, how I CANNOT wait!! Cover versions of Rush: I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but there is an absolutely hilarious cover of Fly By Night done by a group called Sun City Girls. For those not familiar, SCG have been around close to twenty years and have released innumerable tapes and vinyl. The style of their latest releases is very much in an eastern vein, incorporating many Indian and Asian influences. The FBN cover is on album that contains only cover versions. Anyone else heard this?? It is quite obscure. While perusing the latest issue of BW&BK here in Edmonton, I came across this little tidbit: "The forthcoming Greg Howe CD features Vitalij Kuprij on keyboards and carries on in the neoclassical vein of Vitalij's debut solo effort which of course was produced by and featured Howe. The record also features a version of Rush's La Villa Strangiato". I have never heard of either of these two fellows, anyone know what to expect from this? Best wishes to all, Eric Haswell In the CD player: Theatre of Tragedy's "Aegis" "Who pours the chalice of blood for you?" -Dimmu Borgir ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert J. Murphy" <surf-murph@email.msn.com> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 01:11:23 -0500 Subject: "Hey kids, do you like the rock&roll?" Hey kids! An active, observant mind caused David Ayers to write: "As I sit here reading the TNMS with David Letterman in the background, it occurs to me that in 15 years of watching the gap-toothed one on late night TV, I have never heard Paul "I'm always happy to mention that I'm a Canadian" Schaeffer and his band play Rush. Not even once!! Has anyone ever heard them play or even MENTION Rush?? Was he kicked out of Canada for refusing to play Rush??" I've never wondered why Rolling Stone magazine doesn't feature Rush, BECAUSE ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE SUCKS!!!!!!!...ahem... but Letterman on the other hand has been relatively open about trying out new bands or bands that aren't household names. I don't know why Dave and Paul have never had Rush on, but it's probably too late for that anyway. However, with Alex coming out with a new album next year maybe there's a chance Alex might try to promote a little harder next time and-... O'course it could be that Paul is a jerk and Rush just won't work with him. Hmmm... In other news... I don't usually engage in the wild speculation that sometimes speckles the NMS, but about the alleged chances of another album and Neil not writing lyrics and all; here's a thought: Pye Dubois. I'd buy an album with him behind the pen! Why not? Robert (feels red) surf-murph@msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Edward Guzik" <kingsvog@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 12:23:46 PDT Subject: DS versions of SOR & 2112... Greetings all: Wow! Talk about breathing new life into the old classics. Hope TS and CTTH fare as well. Me thinks this will be one incredible record... Ed ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fred Kessler" <fkessl1@uic.edu> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:02:42 -0500 Subject: NEIL IS DEAD!!!! I have a theory that neil is dead. Actually, all three bandmembers may = be dead for that matter. My theory is confirmed by the fact that none = of the tinkertoys on the cover of DS are wearing shoes!! So there ya = go!! RIP Boys!! Fred Kessler fkessl1@uic.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Melo" <amelo@mail.interlog.com> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:54:17 +0000 Subject: Re: Album Premiere I apoligize for the confusion sorrounding the radio station name I gave. I was writing the post very quickly, (I should proof read more often) and didn't realize it until afterwards! I'm in Toronto, and 97.7 Hits FM is in St. Catherines, Ontario. They broadcast to Southern Ontario and have no website that I can find, and they claim to be playing the world premiere of "Different Stages" on the 4th of November at 10pm. Mike "Mooseboy" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Beshuk <pbeshuk@TSO.Cin.IX.Net> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: DS questions can anyone help with these questions?: Does the Japanese version of DS have an additional song or does that song (I forget which song it was) replace one of the ones on the US version. I suspect it's additional, so they didn't "fill" up the CD? Is it possible to change the key of 2112, in the studio, to be "right"? Is it just me, or will it be sort of funny if NASA blows up John Glenn? pete (NASA statistician: "Let's see, a study of space travel's effect on the aging process. A sample size of 1 ought to be sufficient".) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rich Malitz" <pickout2@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:27:57 PDT Subject: Different Stages on the radio I have been trying in vain for the last 5 days or so calling 2 radio stations here in Chicago, 97.9 and 103.5 to play 2112 instead of TSOR from the Different Stages single. No such luck, even with a Rush day on Saturday Oct 17th, all we got was TSOR live(unless I was alseep when 2112 came on). I have tried Chicago area fans. Oh well, I guess we wait until our premier on Nov 4th. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: GuitarRUSH@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:29:46 EDT Subject: Chef special RUSH sighting Did anyone else see this ? I'm watching it now, and it's some South Park special "Behind the Menu" about Chef (south park) and one of the interviewed people was a recording engineer named Rory Schuster. he was wearing a Rush star- with- man shirt!!! anyhow, thought it was worth mentioning "King Lerxst" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Watson" <watsond@idirect.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:24:09 -0400 Subject: Spirit of Radio MP3 Howdy folks. For those of you interested, I've got DS: Spirit of Radio up in MP3 format, with 2112 to follow. The URL, if you choose to use it, is: webhome.idirect.com/~watsond Enjoy! Derek Watson ---------------------------------------------------------- From: x-1@juno.com (Keith Hoffman - Lord Sloth) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:11:51 -0700 Subject: SHAMELESS PLUG I have no shame, and I want to see all af you, (thats right, all 6000 of you) hitting my band's webpage over the next few days, show the power of the NMS!!!! Trying to build a following and demand for new music is hard and I would appreciate your help and openmindedness. On the page we have sound clips, bios and pics, as well as other goodies, such as email and snail mail (with form) lists that you can join. If you like the sounds and want to make your voice heard, send us an email and let us know! and spread the word... Hopefully there are enough openminded people out there to check out something new (that does not sound like rush)... most musicians seem to like rush whether or not they try to sound like them. I hope to see a bunch of NMS'rs hitting the webpage and sending emails! THANKS! URL: http://members.aol.com/sloth2475/kontrol-freq.html Keith formerly known as "LORD SLOTH" © keith hoffman all sites © keith hoffman "Insert RUSH/Peart lyrics here" RUSH page: http://members.aol.com/photonkah/rush.html HOMEPAGE (with links to my other pages): http://members.aol.com/photonkah KontrolFreQ page: http://members.aol.com/sloth2475/kontrol-freq.html ---------------------------------------------------------- From: x-1@juno.com (Keith Hoffman - Lord Sloth) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:22:28 -0700 Subject: RUSH SIGHTING COMING SOON!!! Maybe some of you who listen to alternative radio stations have heard the new song by DIAL-7 called "All I want"... if not it is on an album called NEVER ENOUGH TIME on Warner Bros. records, that album comes out THIS TUESDAY OCT 20th... Why am I telling you this? If you pay attention to the music in the chorus (ignore the vocals if you can) you may hear something out of TEMPLES OF SYRINX. I noticed about 6 months or so ago when I was hanging out in the studio when they were adding some tracks to an earlier version of the song, and there were no vocals in the mix at the time, I started singing temples of syrinx along with it, and the engineer (a drummer of course) jumped in and started singing along. The guys in DIAL-7 dont listen to rush, so it was a cooincidence (there are only so many ways you can arrange chords in a progression). So dont take it as a copyright infringement, as it is not even exactly the same, it just reminded me of it. DIAL-7 is a kicken GROOVECORE band, with an intersting mix, I recomend checking them out. (PIMP ROCK) I also recomend Zebrahead, for those of you who like PIMP ROCK! (yes this is a refresher of my OC CALI PIMPROCK IN THE HOUSE post a few weeks ago!) PIMP ROCK = bands who mix hip hop and rap and funk with some sort of rock, ie. Rage Against The Machine, 311, KoRn, Limp Bizkit etc..., except DIAL-7 is groovier, and Zebrahead is poppier, ala Offspring meets pimp rock enjoy, and check out the Kontrol FreQ website also! Keith formerly known as "LORD SLOTH" © keith hoffman all sites © keith hoffman "Insert RUSH/Peart lyrics here" RUSH page: http://members.aol.com/photonkah/rush.html HOMEPAGE (with links to my other pages): http://members.aol.com/photonkah KontrolFreQ page: http://members.aol.com/sloth2475/kontrol-freq.html ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anderson, Chris " <canderso@amp.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:48:52 -0400 Subject: My Top Ten I haven't put my top ten up in a while..... 1. Rush AND U2 (what more can be said) 2. Pearl Jam (Ed Vedder is cool) 3. Dream Theater (progressive metal at its heaviest and coolest) 4. REM (classic) 5. The Lemonheads (another classic) 6. Radiohead (a modern fav) 7. Led Zeppelin (cool) 8. The Cure (great college music) 9. Mighty Mighty Bosstones (really cool) 10. 90's and mid-70's King Crimson ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jose Ramos <jose.ramos@digital.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:22:07 -0400 Subject: lousy radio Hey Rushheads, This is in reply to Tracy Smith who says there is no rush on the radio in Southern Cal. It's the same in New York City. The radio here stinks. Most of it is top forty. And if you can believe this, the top radio station overall here is a spanish station playing salsa and merengue. I can count on one hand the number of times i have heard Rush on the radio in NYC in the last few years. Maybe it's a big city thing, but I think that smaller, local radio stations play Rush a whole lot more than big city stations. We have three rock stations in NYC: 92.3 K-Rock, which, by the way, is Howard Stern's flagship station. They play alternative rock mostly. Then there is 102.7 WNEW, which has been in NY for over 20 years. They are the best station because they mix classic rock and new stuff. They are also the only ones who play Rush. Finally there is 104.3 Classic Q. This station is only classic rock and they suck! I swear they play Peter Frampton once every two hours. What's that song, "Show me the way?" They play it over and over. Sorry to bitch so much but in order to hear any Rush at all, I have to pop in a tape or CD. Peace, Max ----------------------------------------------------------
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