The National Midnight Star #2104

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THE WATERBOY - TOM SAWYER More stuff on live albums Michigan Musicians The Waterboy - Tom Sawyer The Weapon Geddy Lee in today's Rock Fax Re: Misheard "Middletown Dreams" Oct 6 vs. Nov 10 Great live albums More Rush Producers Hand Over Presto Rush on aussie TV...first time? Red Boatchetta The Top Records of Fall Producers My Own Rush Deafness Re: ATWAS Re: overdubbing -- Rutsey -- live albums Best non-Rush Live album Mis-heard Lyric I had one, too Goats prefer blonds! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Dom Kallas <dkallas@emerald.tufts.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: New Producers for Rush I might be behind the times when I list these people, since I have their work from a couple of years ago, but here goes: 1. Rick Parashar (Pearl Jam, 'Ten') Before Brendan O'Brien started doing Pearl Jam's albums (who coincidentally looks like a younger Alex Lifeson), Rick produced the album that established Pearl Jam in the realm of rock. He was the right guy at the right time- and the results show; 'Ten' is an instant classic. 2. Ron Saint Germain (Living Colour, 'Stain') 'Stain' is very much an overlooked album. The cool thing about the sound on this album is that it sounds 'live' as opposed to studio produced. You can hear every instrument clearly and _loudly_. 3. Flemming Rasmussen (Metallica, 'Ride the Lightning,' 'Master of Puppets,' and '...And Justice For All') 'Master of Puppets' is the most solid Metallica album, and Flemming knew how to capture the sounds. However, he's best suited for analog recording, since the digitally recorded '...And Justice For All' came out a bit too dry for my liking. 4. David Hentschel (Genesis, '...and then there were three') While Genesis definitely lost something when Steve Hackett left, the remaining three members were able to create a sonically expansive album with the help of Dave. I would have suggested getting the tag team of Steve Lillywhite and Tom Lord-Alge, who did wonders for Dave Matthews Band's 'Crash,' but I consider Steve to be out of the picture since he wussed out on working on GUP. Those are my thoughts on the matter... thanks for reading ________________________________________________________________________________ People always turn away from the Eyes of A Stranger Afraid to know what lies behind the stare Queensryche "Eyes of A Stranger" ________________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hegemann, Ted" <Ted_Hegemann@ATK.COM> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:16:28 -0500 Subject: A Work In Progress Wow! I just finished watching Neil's incredible video project showcasing his drumming skills. I know this is not new, but it's worth repeating. >From the very beginning Neil captures your attention with his soft spoken voice and articulate, intelligent delivery. If a person did not know who Neil was, he could easily be mistaken for some college music professor. He talks about his drumming/music history and leads into the change of style and technique in preparation for their most recent cd. Even as a non-drummer I enjoyed listening to his approach to creating the appropriate drum routine for each song. I can only imagine how much more enjoyable this video would be for a seasoned drummer to watch. Between songs we get a more in-depth view of this talented yet humble man as he shares his thoughts about music and writing songs. Then we get a step by step demonstration of how he plays the songs on TFE. Also he tells us WHY he chooses certain routines ("I do this to build suspense" {thump, thump, thump}"then I do that to release"{thump, crash, crash, thump}"which compliments the lyrics and the other guys"). Then, of course, we get to watch him drum along with all of the songs on the album, a nice treat. One of the amusing parts of the video for me was to hear him briefly mention the music piece on 'Moving Pictures'. I had never really thought about how it was pronounced to him, but for us Americans YYZ sounds like Y-Y-ZEE, while north of the border it is pronounced Y-Y-ZED. I highly recommend this video to any avid Rush fan, and especially to the drummers. Now if we can only get Alex to do one! Turbo Ted Go Steelers R.I.P. Pirates ---------------------------------------------------------- From: DigitlMn@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:34:29 EDT Subject: Miscellaneous In respone to: >>LOL!!!!! I gotta tell you, after I read that, I kept hearing the two most >>famous Brady Bunch soundbytes in my head: >>"Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!!!" >>And, of course, the greatest of all: >>"Oh, my nose!" >>"Mom always said "Don't play ball in the house."" OK, since we know Eve Plumb reads these and I religiously watch the Brady Bunch, I have to correct DigitlMn, it is "Mom always SAYS (present tense), don't play ball in the house. Also, the person who was quoting Jan as saying "Oh, my nose", I don't remember that episode. The episode with the nose was when Marcia was nailed by a football and subsequently had her date cancel on her because "something came up". Sorry for the lack of direct Rush content and for being such a schtickler, Pipe- ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason L. & Susan A. Morgan" <sujam2@magiclink.com> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 98 11:33:11 -0500 Subject: First NMS posting Hey all! I've been reading the NMS for a few weeks now. I've enjoyed reading the postings--although a few of them make me wonder. . . Anyway--I've been a Rush fan since my brother (who is an excellent drummer) started listening to MP in the early 80's. I've purchased every CD from MP on. I also have a copy of Permanent Waves. I was excited when I purchased Chronicles because I would be introduced to the earlier Rush material that I really hadn't heard before. What did I think? Well--I wasn't that impressed. You have to understand that I've never been a big fan of the vocal approach taken by Geddy in the early years. It almost sounds like "screeching" to me. (Again--my opinion) I've also been disappointed by Rush's latest efforts. The "in your face" big loud sound that Rush has done on CP and TFE almost seem a cop out compared to the work they did on MP-HYF. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that Rush is "progressive" (although some might argue that point). They are constantly re-inventing there style of music. However--I, for one, don't really care for the direction they have taken. Does anyone else agree with me? Again--all this is my opinion. I'm sure some bozo out there is going to slam my opinion. I say its OK to agree to disagree, but don't slam (or flame) me because your opinion doesn't match mine. Thanks for listening. Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- From: WHO6489@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 13:36:59 EDT Subject: The Waterboy Hi Everybody, I was just watching "Coming Attractions" on E! and they showed the trailer for the new Adam Sandler Movie "The Waterboy." This is the other movie that has TS on the soundtrack. This movie looks really funny! It's about a guy who doesn't really have any social skills and is always being picked on. Finally, he can't take it anymore and starts to fight back, by joining the college football team that he is the waterboy for. Since he's only really a fan of pro wrestling, he uses wrestling moves to tackle the opposition. The movie comes out Nov. 6. Just 2 weeks before DS! This movie could be a good boost for sales of the album. I see why the band decided to put TS on it! If your a fan of Adam Sandler, I really suggest you go see this movie. It looks like another hit! That is all, Keith ---------------------------------------------------------- From: NevrSilent@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:13:58 EDT Subject: Bela Fleck and the Flecktones... >>Continuing on the other favorite groups idea - are there any Flecktones fans out there? Don't let the fact that Bela Fleck plays banjo throw you. It's not at all Beverly Hillbillies (although he sometimes plays it in solos). The bass player for the Flecktones is Victor Lamonte Wooten. A remarkable musician. << Interestingly, a fellow work-mate of mine (who also, it turned out, is a Rush fan) were discussing bands, and he also brought up this group. While I've heard of the band, I've never gone to check them out (and he comes around the area fairly regularly). I just found it incredibly coincidental that the two should come up so close in proximity! Recently ordered the Catherine Wheel disc "Like Cats and Dogs" basically, just because I really dig the "Spirit of Radio" cover that they have as a hidden track (it is very cool). Can you tell that the music scene is in the middle of a dry spell when you'll check out a disc JUST because it's got a rush cover on it? uh-boy... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: umhoepp9@cc.UManitoba.CA Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 16:11:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: rush (sort of) sighting I was driving on the Trans-Canada Highway a couple of weeks ago,heading west from Winnipeg to Calgary. There's a place in Saskatchewan a couple of hours west of Regina called Rush Lake. I, being the huge Rush fan that I am, had to take a picture of the road sign. My non-Rush friends all thought that that was really lame, of course. But hey, screw them, eh? Still waiting with baited breath for the new live album. Jeff P.S. The Grey Cup (the CFL championship) is in Winnipeg this year (Nov.22)... come on up for Canada's biggest party! ------ There are three kinds of people: Those who are good at math, and those who aren't. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Ray Rivard" <drrivard@fcg.net> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 22:54:58 -0500 Subject: rush 'moment' This is a rather lame rush sighting, but i thought i'd offer it anyway. = on saturday, sept. 12 (Neil's 46th b-day), I was rolling along I-55 in = Illinois, when a local DJ offered a happy b-day to Neil, and then = proceeded to spin 'tom sawyer". As TS was playing, a car buzzed by me doing about 90, and it sported the = Illinois license plate 'BYTOR 97'. He must have been listening to! (I told you it was = lame!) Something to think about--Rush WILL return, better and stronger = than ever! When the chips were down after COS, they produced 2112. After P/G, when there were breakup rumblings, they produced PoW. After a long break, and = the band shrouded in uncertainty, they produced T4E. They create music = because they WANT to. (not to mention it's their job). IMHO they will be back in = 1999, not 2000. I also think they will produce the album themselves, for a change. = Just my thoughts, and my 2 cents worth. Rush On!!! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Benjamin" <cygnus_71@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 22:39:58 PDT Subject: Dream Theater After reading many posts on here about the group "Dream Theater", I went out and purchased thier album "Falling into Infinity". It's great. Can someone e-mail me an album list? Thanks CYGNUS-X1@bigfoot.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik DePoy <depoy@com2com.ru> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:10:18 +0400 Subject: Radio City Sept. '83 In response to a post a few weeks back, I'd like to offer some memories of the Rush show I saw back on Sept. 20, 1983 at Radio City Music Hall in New York City. I had become a big fan the previous year (at the ripe old age of 13) and was fortunate enough to catch their show in December of '82 at Madison Square Garden (Signals Tour). Therefore when I got word of the five shows Rush had scheduled for Radio City, I was really excited. No new studio or live album to tour in support of, just five gigs in downtown Manhattan. My friend (another big Rush fan) scored us tickets for the third show, up in the balcony but in the first row. For those who have never been there, Radio City is a beautiful hall with a classy 1930's architectural look. As we took our seats, Marillion was already playing. They were pretty much unknown at the time, so we didn't pay too much attention to them. People were very fired up for Rush of course, the energy level was really high. When the lights went out, a huge cheer went up, and my friend hit the record button on the Walkman he managed to sneak into the hall. Because he made a tape of the show, I am able to recall a lot of what went down that night. The Three Stooges theme was first, followed by The Spirit of Radio into Tom Sawyer. These tunes were big crowd pleasers, this was back when Rush was at their peak in popularity. Then Geddy stepped to the mic and told us how great it was to be back in New York City. He then said they had a lot of songs to play for us that evening "from albums of the past and of the future". But first something from their Signals album, Digital Man. Great tune of course, but I have to mention the first reaction we had when they hit the stage that night...Geddy's hair! Or the lack of it! On the tape I hear this dialogue: Me: He got a HAIRCUT! My friend: Who? Me: GEDDY! My friend: WHERE'S YOUR HAIR?!? HE'S FUC%!NG BALD!! Yes, Geddy had shorn his locks, ridding himself of the classic Geddy look. It turned out to be a precursor to the GUP look (see the video for Distant Early Warning). He was also playing his new Steinberger bass, having ditched the trusty Rickenbacker. All told a rather big surprise for us youngsters. There was a real lack of special effects that night, it was a real stripped-down version of the band. I remember this quality the most, and in retrospect these shows were remarkable because of it. The first new tune they played was Red Sector A. These shows were the debut of Neil's new synth drums. We all know how Neil's kit rotates during his drum solos, but at that time Neil had to actually turn his back to the crowd to play them. The headphones providing him with a click track were new as well. Rush was clearly experimenting with new sounds and technology. We also were treated to Broon's Bane into The Trees. These were the last shows Broon's Bane was ever played at, although we didn't know it at the time. The other two new songs we heard that night were The Body Electric and Kid Gloves. Again, they wouldn't be released officially until the following April, so all we had until then were the versions on our tape. Each song had different solos, my favorite was definitely the one on Red Sector A. Serious Alex whammy bar action on that one, although Kid Gloves was a real Lerxst-fest as well. They basically stuck to Signals material that night, but dropped Chemistry from the previous tour. They did play Countdown however, with the benefit of the NASA video behind the stage. No lasers, no flash pots- they would make their appearance only in 1984. Then came the big medley, 2112 Overture>Temples>Xanadu>La Villa>In The Mood. The tape reveals that Geddy said "Hey LONG ISLAND" not "Hey Cookie" or "Hey Mookie" or somesuch. And we were in Manhattan. Very strange... Anyway we were really pumped up for the encore, which was YYZ with the big drum solo. Unfortunately the batteries in my friend's Walkman ran out just as YYZ was starting. What a bummer! But we only found out after the show, so it made no difference for our memories of that special night. Erik DePoy Lyubertsy, Russia ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jessica Winkworth <cg485@freenet.toronto.on.ca> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:17:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Rush and South Park Howdy If I remember correctly, there used to be a bit of a debate on here about whether Trey Parker and Matt Stone (creators of South Park) are Rush fans. Well, I was watching the MuchMusic program FAX tonight, and the main story was the MTV Music Awards. The VJ went over to Matt Stone and introduced herself as being from MuchMusic in Canada. To which Matt went, "Oh, Canada, I love Canada, I love everything Canadian; maple syrup, Celine Dion, and Geddy Lee. I *love* Geddy Lee." Thought that was cool :-) Later Jessica http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/7619 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy Golborne" <andy.golborne@btinternet.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 08:05:57 +0100 Subject: Sweet Memories Dear all Good old HMV over here have one of their periodic "3 for £22" mid-price CD sales on at the moment and so on Saturday I indulged and picked up both 2112 and Hemispheres. Being a committed "new Rush" fan I'd sold my album versions of these quite a while back and I kept promising myself that I would get some of the old stuff on CD, especially when they were all treated to a remaster job. I got home and put on 2112, going straight to what was side 2. Now, I'd say that I've probably not heard any of these tracks for about 10 years, and it was a _real_ treat to be able to appreciate that stuff all over again. I still know all the lyrics, all the drumming, all the guitar bits, everything, and the same for Hemispheres, which was the first Rush album I ever bought, back when it was new out. These are such excellent records and I realised again why I spent endless hours and hours listening to those LPs when I first had them - no wonder my O Level results suffered ! Listening to them really brought up memories of the time - school, old friends - good times. Sweet memories indeed. And how good do theese CDs sound ? Bloody marvellous. Absolutely crystal (and not one bit of crackle or pop in the "I have memory and awareness" bit ! ). Great. I'm going back this week to see if they have CoS, AFTK and FBN.as I know that they'll do the exactly same for when I put them on. Can't wait. (In case anyone was wondering what the 3rd CD was that I bought on Saturday it was The Crossing by Big Country, and almost the same goes for that as regards nostalgia value!) Cheers Andy andy.golborne@btinternet.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "PAUL SMITH" <AFZPAS@hermes.nottingham.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:12:19 GMT0BST Subject: live albums, misheard lyrics Dear All, I may be jumping the gun here, but so far the live albums thred has not provoked a flame! Blimey. As to misheard lyrics, I would swear that at one of the London dates in the late seventies/early eighties (probably Hammersmith, since Wembley scarcely lends itself to humour) Geddy said "Here's a song about my lunchbreak - this is Twenty Past Twelve." He then proceeded to launch into "We are the Plumbers who've come to mend your sinks". Of course these are only memories, but that's all we have... sniff. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Werner" <Chad.Werner@reliastar.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 7:11 -0600 Subject: There's Something About Cfogel.... In a recent NMS, "Cfogel" finished a mildly controversial post with this: "Do your thing, you goddamn knee-jerkers. Go, Lemmings, go!" Shit, talk about asking for it! Honestly, I have to say, this little postscript was so unexpected, so funny..... I haven't laughed so hard since I saw There's Something About Mary. Good show, "Cfogel", good show! Pip pip! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chesley Bryan" <CBryan@kltv.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:28:45 -0500 Subject: live vid? I dunno if anyone has touched on this, but did anyone notice any film cameras at any of the shows??? Chesley Bryan Director of Marketing Research KLTV cbryan@kltv.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin L. Kitchens" <peiprog@peiprog.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:24:42 -0400 Subject: Song Parody... Clinton's Ladder (to Jacob's Ladder, by Rush) The House prepares for battle... Impeachment is in question... Bruised and sullen liberals, Have the light of Truth obscured. Charges vile and treacherous, The President did perjure... Bleeding hearts are circling To prevent...his...departure... <cool music here> All at once, the report is published Facts stream down in bright unbroken beams... <more cool music> Follow men's eyes As they read and despise, Bill Clinton's lack of morals Sounds the trumpet of his end Kevin L. Kitchens, PEI Programming, Lithonia, Georgia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- PEI Programming: http://www.peiprog.com The BEST Installer: WISE -Info: http://www.glbs.com The BEST Grid: SpreadOCX -Info: http://www.fpoint.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Rocky Landsverk <landsverkr@krause.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:54:02 -0700 Subject: to see amazing things does anybody have any feedback on a boot video called "to see amazing things," allegedly the full concert from the test for echo tour in toronto. thanks. Rocky Landsverk - Associate Editor / Sports Krause Publications http://www.krause.com/sports ---------------------------------------------------------- From: GuitarRUSH@aol.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:26:24 EDT Subject: Geddy on AOL??? On the Rush newsgroup...I saw someone found out Geddy's screename(I won't tell..) If this is true....we now know why/how they changed the setlist on DS around by having one of them to spy on us I'm guessing. Anyhow...I doubt his screename will be the same one for long. "Lerxst" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Russ Abramson" <rabramson@goeletcorp.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:20:35 -0400 Subject: THE WATERBOY - TOM SAWYER I don't know if any NMS'ers have seen the preview for The Waterboy (with Adam Sandler) but they play Tom Sawyer during the entire extended preview. I hope they actually use it in the movie. I can't remember the last time a Rush song made it into a major motion picture. If anyone can, please email me and let me know. Russ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Palo" <double_agent54@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:28:15 PDT Subject: More stuff on live albums Dear fellow Rushians, Contributing to the latest thread of great live albums, allow me to throw this one out: Black Sabbath: Live Evil. Now I take it there aren't many Black Sabbath fans out in Rush land, but this is a great show. A lot of the classics are performed (though Dio is the lead vocalist in Ozzy's place; I think he was a lot better than Ozzy) as well as some of their newer stuff which blows you away. Of course, you have to be in the right mood to listen to it, but I encourage all of you to give it at least one listen. Second, it's football season and I know that there are fans of the Chargers, the Broncos and the Steelers. Well, I"m a Chiefs fan and though they lost this week (it was pretty bad), I 'm waiting for all of your teams to come to arrowhead for the annual ass-kicking they deserve. Oh sure you may have the good quarterbacks in Elway, Stewart and Lief, but my defense is going to eat them for lunch. Wanna bet on it? Chris Palo "I am a man: I consider nothing human alien to me." Terence, The self-tormentor ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Russell J. Thorpe" <rthorpe@tir.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:35:22 -0400 Subject: Michigan Musicians Just wanted to know, If there were any musicians on the list who live in Michigan. I play guitar, and live in Lapeer. I can fumble my way through a few older Rush tunes (MP and before). If you live fairly close, e-mail me privately, and maybe we can arrange a jam. l8r, russ *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Russell J. Thorpe Systems Administrator Toyo Seat USA Corp. ph. (810)724-0300 ext.148 fax:(810)724-0684 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Baron <baron@c2o.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:15:03 -0500 Subject: The Waterboy - Tom Sawyer Greetings, I went to see The Slums of Beverly Hills over the weekend (I recommend it highly) and before the show they played a preview of the New Adam Sandler (sp?) flick Waterboy. Through half of the trailer they played Tom Sawyer as the background music. Cool huh? Too bad the movie looks lousy, though it does have Henry (the Fonz) Winkler in it. Baron Baron Lane -------------------------------------------------- c2o Interactive Architects http://www.c2o.com Phone: (214) 800-7921 Fax: (214) 800-7933 E-mail: baron@c2o.com Pager: 1-888-384-5293 -------------------------------an EDS joint------ "Lo! Men have become the tools of their tools." -- Henry David Thoreau ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shulman, Mark" <MShulman@APA-AGENCY.COM> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:00:18 -0700 Subject: The Weapon I had this bootleg years ago that my friend took and disappeared with and I've been unable to get ahold of it since.. I can't remember the exact listing of songs, but I know that it had The Weapon on it and the song was introduced by The Count from SCTV.. Does anyone know which bootleg this is from and how I can get ahold of it? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Sowder <freds@wruf.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:10:53 -0400 Subject: Geddy Lee in today's Rock Fax Hey, All! Just a little tidbit about Mr. Lee found in today's Rock Fax, which is a news service sent out to radio stations: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- MCGWIRE'S H-R A RUSH FOR GEDDY One member of the rock community who has his eye on baseball's home run race is Rush vocalist and bass- ist Geddy Lee. He even has a theory on why Mark McGwire broke the record before Sammy Sosa. "I think Sammy is largely responsible for cooling Mc- Gwire out. I think McGwire was just blown away by what a cool guy Sammy Sosa was. He started hitting again after that." Rush's live album, _Different Stages_, will be released November 10th. (c) 1998 MJI Broadcasting, Inc. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rush on! ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v Fred Sowder freds@wruf.com Promotions Director freds@ufl.edu Weekend Air Personality http://www.wruf.com WRUF-FM Rock 104 The Home of Rock 'N Roll WRUF-AM AM 850 Your Hometown Station http://www.rock104.com http://www.am850.com ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joseph Ornelas" <jornelas@electriciti.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:23:35 -0700 Subject: Re: Misheard "Middletown Dreams" >Anyway, I don't know if this qualifies as being "groovy" but whenever I hear >"MD" I sing the following incorrect lyrics: > >Lock the store-closed early >Hidden bottle came out >Sentimental to close the blinds... I always misheard it as "Record store closed early..." It made enough sense that I never bothered to look it up. Joseph Ornelas http://www.eciti.com/jornelas/nexthttp.html "Record store closed early, Rush's albums: sold out..." - Me ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "van Damage" <damage88@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:34:47 PDT Subject: Oct 6 vs. Nov 10 I goofed!!! What else can I say?? Why I typed October 6 (twice!) as the release date for DIFFERENT STAGES is beyond me. So, accept my apology for any confusion this may have caused. (Although I doubt that, you're a pretty sharp bunch.) Looking forward to NOVEMBER 10!!!! (Thats better!) Damage damage88@hotmail.com http://listen.to/damage http://come.to/mitchell ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Oldham" <brad_oldham@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:09:11 PDT Subject: Great live albums Hi all, There's been a lot of great live albums listed here (particularly, Genesis - Seconds Outs, Gentle Giant - Playing the Fool, and Jethro Tull Bursting Out). However, one live album I love that I haven't seen anyone mention is Pat Travers - Go For What You Know. Pat Travers and Pat Thrall do some great dual guitar work on that one. Check it out. Brad Oldham Dallas, Texas ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Ayers" <lerxst@voicenet.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:59:04 -0400 Subject: More Rush Producers Choosing producers for Rush(or anyone) is one of my favorite pasttimes, = so I thought I'd toss out some names for the next Rush release. Some = are simply unlikely, but I'm sure they can spark some discussion. Trevor Horn - I've heard Rush say that they prefer their producers to be = artists, not engineers and I think Trevor fits in that sense, but he = might have a tendency to overdo it a little bit. Not to diminish his = work on "90125" or Seal's fine albums. I just think he wouldn't fit = with Rush. Sam Taylor - King's X and Galactic Cowboys. He could certainly help = them rediscover that hard edge without forgetting MELODY as many bands = do these days. Nick Davis - I love everything about Marillion's "Season's End" and this = gentleman worked on it. He really achieved a fine balance between edgy = guitar and effective keyboards. I believe he also worked with Genesis = (or, as I liked to call them at the time: Phil and Mike & some guy named = Tony who is not a mechanic) on one of their later albums. (Or this durn = concussion is screwing with my memory again) Kevin Shirley - Hmmm, he worked on CP (my favorite since the early = eighties) and with Dream Theater on "Falling Into Infinity" and I think = those are fine credentials. (Yes, I'm aware that this fine band is, for = reasons unknown to me, a whipping boy on TNMS, but I enjoy them and = their work. I suppose they are disliked because they may be considered = Rush wannabe's, but I think that's unfair when one recalls Rush's early = years when they were little more than Led Zeppelin wannabes)=20 Alan Parsons - Ok, no he doesn't produce anybody's stuff but his own = anymore and he is an engineer in his roots, but I think you have to = admit, it would be interesting. Imagine if Alan, not Peter Collins had = produced "Power Windows" Dave "We're mutants! There's something wrong with us! Something very, very = wrong with us!! Something seriously wrong with us!! We're Rush fans!" = Paraphrase of Bill Murray ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dennis F. Pupello II" <dpupello@gate.net> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:58:12 -0400 Subject: Hand Over Presto Simon wrote: * On a positive note: the other day I was explaining for the umpteenth time to my very patient wife how Neil plays with words in "Hand Over Fist" ¯ you know, "Don't ask me/I'm just sympathizing/my allusion to careless flight Don't ask me/I'm just improvising/My illusion's more heat than light" and revelling in their semantic structure and playfulness and just feeling warm all over that there does indeed exist a band like Rush for al of us to feel good about and to lose ourselves in. * Simon, won't be the first to say this I'm sure, but those lyrics are from "Presto" rather than "Hand Over Fist." Also, no offense, but you've mixed up the two verses. Doh! Presto lyrics are quite good though, as you say :} Dennis Pupello II Pupello Web Design & Computer Consulting dpupello@gate.net ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Hodgetts <hodgetts@cyllene.uwa.edu.au> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:01:16 Subject: Rush on aussie TV...first time? G'day all, The advertisement for "Small Soldiers" aired on national TV in australia this last week has the Tom Sawyer opening blasting out. Even though it's not the original, I think it is the first time a "Rush song" has been broadcast on free to air TV in australia. Anybody know differently??? Billy Oz...out ---------------------------------------------------------- From: turboV8@webtv.net Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:05:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Red Boatchetta There is no better song on the water , ( red barchetta ) zipping along at a frightful speed, swerving -between the 2 great nations.Acting as if internatonal borders (Territories) didnt exist.The Detroit River and surounding lakes allows a person to experience -( Tai Shan ) . We seek out Canadian destinations,with the likes of Crystal Bay or White Sands and so on there is an endless adventure....waitng ...When the Water takes You Home. Any SAXON fans here?? Keep Your Prop in the Water.....and Your Deck Dry ! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ward Bond <wbond@ibm.net> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:08:42 -0400 Subject: The Top Records of Fall Some other newspapers may have screwed up, but here's what the Washington Post reported in the article "The Top Records of Fall", in the Sunday, Sept 13th issue: >...Expect live albums from the Rollings Stones (from the group's ongoing "Bridges to Babylon" tour), the Bee Gees, Garth Brooks, Aerosmith, Hanson, the reunited Black Sabbath, Michael Crawford, the Mighty, Mighty Bosstones, Portishead, Patti LaBelle, Rush and, from the vaults, the Clash. The Clash will also be the subject of a tribute album, as will the late Tammy Wynette (with Elton John delivering "Stand by Your Man"), Kate Wolf, Ozzy Osbourne and N.W.A. on the 10th anniversary of "Straight Outta Compton." *** Unfortunately Rush will probably be tremendously outsold by the live Hanson album-- what a sad thought! Ward Bond ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "John A. Tyler" <jatyler@execpc.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:00:46 -0500 Subject: Producers Two obvious suggestions that no one has brought up are Robert Fripp and Trevor Horn. They both carry heavy credentials as members of other progressive bands. (King Crimson and Yes.) Robert is as bizarre and extreme as any other musician/producer on earth. I think he may be the only man who could push the boys to do things that they never dreamed of. Imagine what that collaberation would sound like. Trevor would probably make them sound more modern and polished. But as the producer of Yes's 90125 album I think that it would still work out. Imagine what the bass and drums would sound like! As for his treatment of Alex's guitars... I bet they would be a lot more etherial and moody. But not bright like the 80's stuff. I'd kill to get the boys working with either of these two geniuses. But I'll be really happy if they record another studio album at all. I couldnt care if it was recorded on a victrola! Till later, John Tyler --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- "There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly dissapear and be replaced by something even more bizzare and inexplicable." "There is another theory which states that this has already happened." Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe ---------------------------------------------------------- From: LEDRUSH@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 01:12:59 EDT Subject: My Own Rush Deafness Hello fellow RUSH fans, I have been reading the latest postings about misheard lyrics and would like to add one of my own. Tom Sawyer came out when I was a freshman in high school, and I swear that I heard Geddy sing "And the spacey invaders get by on you"......Yes, I did spend a lot of time in the arcade......Well,..Ya know. Also during all four years in high school my locker number was (I did not request it) 2112! After several weeks of people prying off my number plate, and the janitors having to replace it, I wrote the number in with a marker. Thanks for your time, Paul Dreyer "Follow men's eyes as they look to the skies..The shifting shafts of shining weave the fabric of their dreams..." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Slim Jim <jg@ms.com> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:01:27 +0100 Subject: Re: ATWAS >>>>> "Michael Z. Williamson" writes: > An orbital mind control laser caused Lance2112@aol.com to say: > > >4. RUSH-All the Worlds a Stage > >Yes Paul, there IS room for a RUSH live album here. Their first is the > >obvious choice because of its raw energy and power unabaited by the > >future overdubs that spoil subsequent live efforts. > > Geddy states in Visions that there _were_ overdubs--Alex broke a string > during the WM solo, and Neil broke a snare. The also touched up some > bad vocals and such. Lance didn't say that there weren't any overdubs on ATWAS, he just implied that it was unspoiled by them, and I agree. They were essentially 'repair' overdubs, the later live albums on the other hand have any potential live atmosphere ruined by studio tampering IMO. Slim, back from Tokyo & depressed. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Slim Jim <jg@ms.com> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:12:26 +0100 Subject: Re: overdubbing -- Rutsey -- live albums >>>>> cfogel@internet.omm.com writes: > 2) John Rutsey > > from previous posting..."I have never understood the tendency among NMS > contributors to attack John Rutsey." > > a) his drumming sucked. Listen to the "awesome" finale of Working Man. > b) his drums sounded crappy. Listen to any song off of the Rush album. > c) he pulled the ultimate "D'OH!" (a major screw up 'rond these parts is still known at times as "pulling a Rutsey") Firstly his drumming is not that bad, secondly - even if he isn't particularly highly talented - so what? Is that an excuse to engage in personal attacks about the guy for the next 24 years? Secondly, he didn't have a crystal ball, and even if he did, it's highly possible that Rush would never have been that successful without Neil Peart. He made the right move based on his personal conviction. But even an unfortunate career move doesn't give anyone the right to the kind of personal attacks I see here, week after week. I'd like to know how talented -you- are, cfogel. The general tone of your post suggests "not very". Slim ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Berry, Paul W (Syncordia)" <BerryPW@bp.com> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:48:38 +0100 Subject: Best non-Rush Live album G'day all, My Fave non-Rush live Album has to be Some Enchanted Evening, by Blue Oyster Cult. Great songs, great guitars and killer atmosphere. Check it out Bezza ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Berry, Paul W (Syncordia)" <BerryPW@bp.com> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:52:05 +0100 Subject: Mis-heard Lyric G'day all, When I was (very) young and only had a taped copy of 2112 I used to think the Priests were saying : Just think about the AVARICE, what use have they for you..... It never did make a lot of sense ! Bezza ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ambergris8@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:00:42 EDT Subject: I had one, too Greetings, fellow lemmings, (this way, please) So, last night, before bed, I had this great idea that "the Boys"; if they are giving up music (or even if they're not); should go and get their own Talk Radio show, like on WABC here in New York. Talk politics, morals, offer advice, incite riots, whatever. They might not be able to call it "The Rush Show" because of Limbaugh ya' know, but we could have a contest in the TNMS, and post the results in issue #2112, and then let they guys pick a name, okay? Neil would, of course, be the brooding front man (that's a switch), provide biting commentary and deep thoughts (hey, whatever happened to "Deep (Rush) Thoughts"? I couldn't find it), while Geddy and Alex would do something else. I don't know what. Humourous banter? Well, I was so pleased with my idea that I couldn't wait to write to ya'll about it, but then I went to sleep and -OH NO!!- I had a dream. Nothing too concrete; just something about Neil doing a racing bike commercial, and I was trying to catch up with him (which is funny, because, aside from other things, I have not straddled a bike seat in a while, either). Then, some news people were lined up at banquet tables in the backyard of my childhood, and because *I* was such a fan of Rush, they wanted me to do something. Find them? Ask them something? I don't know....I just woke up to another foggy dawn and had a good chuckle at myself. (hmmm.........maybe it had something to do with that authentic Canadian beer I had before retiring.....) So, that's it, and in mass answer to some queries, Yes, I am accepting donations for a nose jobbie. And no, I do not have a scanner. Scare less people that way. The one guy who proposed marriage- please forward a copy of your bank statement and most recent medical results. Toodles, Lisa ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rushfan.2112@juno.com (Christopher W Lindsay) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:40:35 -0400 Subject: Goats prefer blonds! I found a company that has a lot of rare RUSH stuff, like promos and singles. There are also some live interview stuff (no boots, I think). E-mail me for address and I'll send you their inventory. Much of it is too expensive for me, but maybe not for you working folks, making the big $$$$$. ----------------------------------------------------------
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