The National Midnight Star #2095

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Concert Second Nature-Little Bear show Boogie Nights Crymes and Mysdimeanors Mmcxii: Final word (better be...) tabcon memories Year book quotes... what to discuss on the nms??? prizes! octapad yearbook quotes... Madonna ripped off Rush...Pearl Jam to the rescue? The joke about the "ding" in Hemispheres a wave is building... SCTV Rush and King Crimson Poll rush spotting in the latest billboard; y2k and the music RUSH does not owe us TS single? Rush logo stickers ! Change To Eden(CTE)...the original _TE Rush owes us nothing. Rush-related tattoos yearbook quote NMS nice place to be/Can Carter B, etc. play Neils solos??? I'm not wearing any pants! favorite non-rush song, and some rambling Different Stages listening party Just wondering... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rush-mgr@tnms.com (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager) Date: Fri Aug 28 11:00:53 PDT 1998 Subject: Administrivia I've put up a few more Inductee banners, check them out: http://yyz.com/~meg/rushhof.html I'll be making my decision this weekend, so if you want to send them in make sure to do it before Sunday! - rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Costello, Bryan" <Bryan.Costello@sea.siemens.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:24:55 -0400 Subject: Rush sighting at TED NUGENT I experienced an awesome show last night.... TED NUGENT returned to Atlanta. The place I first saw him at on 7-8-78, The Omni has been torn down. The club that the picture on the back of his first album was taken at, The Electric Ballroom here in Atlanta, is long gone. But Ted is going strong. He has aged gracefully, is in great health and looks awesome, unlike a lot of us (me included). He does all his trademark tricks, poses, effects & sensations. Furthermore, he does an awesome collection of songs from his 1st 4 albums and a nod to 1 or two of the post Gonzo efforts, yet they aren't just a rehashing of the hits. He performs them in the same way, yet with a renewed sense of vigor that puts a spark under your fanny! None of the humorous "Wango Tango" garbage either, just straight ahead Rock & Roll. The crowd looked to be primarily in their 30's, like I, and except for the drug addicts (cigarette smokers that stunk up the joint with their addiction) the show & crowd were perfect! Light years better than the Metallica abortion (concert) I attended earlier this summer. ***Tommy Aldridge is playing drums for him, worth the price of admission alone. And Atlanta native Derek St. Holmes came out to lay a "Stranglehold" on us....along with a "Hey Baby" & a "Cat Scratch Fever" If you get a chance to see Ted this summer, please, please go!!!! Even if his music is not your cup of tea, go see him to support all he stands for. He IS a quality individual. To all my over 30 comrades out there, keep the spirit alive! yours in allegiance, Bryan C ****Oh yeah, the guy standing next to me at the Nugent show was wearing a Rush "Starman" T-shirt. That's my Rush sighting. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sweetwater" <swtwater@erols.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:26:38 -0400 Subject: Does Rush owe us "dick" Fred Pinto, in TNMS #2093, is on the soapbox hawking the suggestion that Rush owes us more than they are delivering because they were born with exceptional talent and ability and because we fans have stuck by them when MTV and the radio have not. My HO is that Different Stages *is* a great gift they are giving us, and it is good to hear that Atlantic is adjusting things to make it even better. To those who bleat that studio tweaking to perfect minor flaws in parts of a live performance is some form of chicanery, please feel free to pick up an "unauthorized recording" or download a live MP3 of one. The fact is, the boys aren't trying to "fool us into thinking they are infallible musicians"; they are as humanly close to infallible as it is. Who would one point to who can play bass with his feet, keyboards with his hands and sing complex full throated vocals over it all in near perfect sync other than Geddy? Is there a better drummer out there? And Alex starts with a difficult score to begin with and rarely misses the mark. For that matter how many 3 person bands are there of any caliber at all? In terms of what we have done for Rush, they could and would be a lot richer if they succumbed to the temptation to feed the public pop-pap for increased radio play. Instead they give us originality, which is way more difficult than putting up a good basketball game, (with all due respect for MJ). One the one hand Fred says that we hard core fans have stuck with Rush when MTV and the radio haven't, and so they owe us; on the other he won't allow them to include their most popular tunes on their live album as a way to reach more audience. Look everyone, if you've got such a problem with the setlist that you want to bitch and moan endlessly, stick by your principles and don't buy it! What's that, you are going to buy it anyway? Well then chill out and save the pointless whining on and on and on. If any band has done it all for their fans, it is Rush. They don't *owe us* "dick". By the way, studies have shown that those who dwell on what they don't have suffer far more health problems and die younger than those who appreciate what they have. Live longer, appreciate RUSH! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Costello, Bryan" <Bryan.Costello@sea.siemens.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:44:06 -0400 Subject: Modern Day Warrior vs. The Ultimate Warrior The Ultimate Warrior has returned to the ranks of Professional Wrestling. Does anyone remember Kerry Von Erich, the "Modern Day Warrior"? He was billed that, from the line in "Tom Sawyer", in fact TS was his entrance music for years & years. UW's return has sparked a lot of conversation in some of the wrestling circles I dominate, and Kerry's name has been mentioned an awful lot lately. They both teamed together in Texas for a couple of years, and were reunited in the WWF later in the early 90's. Kerry is no longer with us. His demise is a most tragic one. I just wanted to throw this out for consumption. Anytime I hear his name mentioned or his moniker, "The Modern Day Warrior", it triggers the "play" button in my mind for the opening notes of TS. yours in allegiance, Bryan "you ran the night that you left me you put me in my place I got you in a stranglehold baby and I crushed your face" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Green..Yellow.. REDDDDDDDDDD!!!!" <geddylee@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:15:54 PDT Subject: TNMS-ers in Iowa? < /lurk > Hey everybody. Just wondering if there are any other TNMS=ers in Iowa besides me. guh? Seth < lurk > /|/ \ | Sensibility -- | | | Armed with Sense and Liberty, | _/ |_ With the Heart and Mind united / \ /| | |\ | \ In a single, perfect Sphere / \ \_/\/_\/ \_____ -Neil Peart \ Hemispheres \____ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Russell J. Thorpe" <rthorpe@tir.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:42:32 -0400 Subject: Postings that never got posted......What Gives? Here are two postings I sent in that never seemed to show up in the digest: I have two words to add to your Best Drummer debate..... Terry Bozio I feel he is by far the best drummer in the world. Just listen to the stuff he did with Zappa. (anyone who played with Zappa has to be a phenominal musician.) For an example listen to Baby Snakes (live album, and video), Jeff Beck's Guitar Shop, and a album by Dweezil and Ahmet Zappa which I can't remember the title of. Russell Thorpe >From: greg cormier <cormier_greg@isus.emc.com> >Date: Mon, 17 Aug 98 13:22:19 EDT >Subject: Dream Theater review I went to the same DT, ELP, DP show in Michigan at Pine Knob. We had FREE VIP tickets. We decided that Dream Theater Kind of sucked, so we sat in the VIP lounge gettin silly on Long Islands. ELP on the other hand, was excellent. (although Keith Emerson didn't wrestle his Hammond to the ground.) They did play Hoedown, which was cool. the best part came at the end, when Keith played Flight of the Bumblebee. He also played Bach's Toccata and Fugue in Gmin. (sp?) while sitting on his baby grand BEHIND his Moog controller. It was awesome. Deep Purple put on a hell of a show as well. Plus, Steve Morse made us all say "Richie who?" *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Russell J. Thorpe Systems Administrator Toyo Seat USA Corp. ph. (810)724-0300 ext.148 fax:(810)724-0684 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:57:56 -0700 Subject: the freudian length of Rush An orbital mind-control laser told KMKeller@aol.com to say: >I've noticed a number of people complaining that the discs for the >upcoming live album are not "filled" with music, i.e. only 60 minutes >long. >Nobody was complaining back in the days of vinyl when Rush albums were >40 minutes long, even though vinyl albums could hold up to 60 minutes. yes, but the sound quality would suck due to the groove being too shallow. >The point is quality, not quantity. As Brian Eno once said, "Brevity is >the essence of wit". I'm sure that bands won't be putting out albums >that are 3 hours long once the technology improves to that point. Oh, I think they will. The reason the newer Rush albums are close to an hour long is because the technology allows it. Ged is quoted to that effect in Visions. - mike "Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl kills the first woman she meets, then teams up with three complete strangers to kill again." -- TV listing for "The Wizard of Oz" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:39:27 -0500 Subject: XXIXII vs. MMCXII "Twenty One Twelve", hence XXI XII (note the space!). except that there is no space on the album cover, and it is stated that 2112 is a year. Therefore: MMCXII now, if it were written as "twenty-one twelve," or if it were 21,12, then it would be as you say. We say "Nineteen ninety-eight," but it is still written either IIMM, or MCMLXXXXVIII, or MCMXCVIII you know, Roman numerals are clunky. Is there a point to this? - mike "Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl kills the first woman she meets, then teams up with three complete strangers to kill again." -- TV listing for "The Wizard of Oz" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Breiner <dannyeb@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 00:05:12 -0700 Subject: High school Quotes... I graduated from high school last june and use a Rush quote (of course). I used "The Analog Kid" 'cause it's always been my favorite Rush song. (This also means I am ecstatic over the set list revisions). My quote, "As I leave..." blah, you all know it. I have been planning on using that since before I started high school. However, I came across a hard decision because I also wanted to use Dreamline ("we are young..."). Well it turns out one of my best friends used that one so it all worked out. Also, when I was a Freshman, I was asked by the senior who drove me to school for a good quote...the suggestion I made and she used was from Everyday People, "If the futures..." Danny Breiner --see above quotes--- ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Todd Smith" <bonzo6@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:38:04 PDT Subject: Concert Hello All I too saw the Dt/ELP/DP show, and I have to say IT ROCKED!!!!! I wasn't huge fans of elp and dp, but now I am hooked. Dt had the clearest sound, Elp had a good setlist, and DP had so much energy it blew me away!!!! I wold defintely recommend seeing this show if you get the chance!!! On another note, I have a meek but always somewhat interesting Rush Sighting. I was working in my friendly neighborhood Ranch, and lo and Behold, 2112 (overture, TOS)came on the Radio! It ruled!! ---BONzo-- "Free advice is worth what you pay for it....." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jbob2112@aol.com Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 03:21:11 EDT Subject: Second Nature-Little Bear show SECOND NATURE An Evening with the music of RUSH We will be playing this sunday August 30th at the little bear in evergreen with the Lionel Young band. We also will be showing our new documentary film: SECOND NATURE: CAUGHT IN LIGHT at 6 pm and we will go on about 8 pm and we will play three 45 min sets of mostly Rush and some original material. We hope to see you all there. Sundays at the Little bear can get a little wild, we hear. Direction's to the bear are: I-70 to the Evergreen parkway and go east for eight miles into town. e-mail us at: SndNature@aol.com Visit our web site: www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/8973 SECOND NATURE: Caught in light 1998 Agile films a film by mathew jones filmed at the little bear march and may 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dennis F. Pupello II" <dpupello@gate.net> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:05:44 -0400 Subject: Boogie Nights There's been a lot of talk lately about Rush on movie soundtracks. I'm really looking forward to seeing the trailer for The Waterboy. Hey, Happy Gilmore was amusing. I know this is going off-topic, but if you like 70's music, the Boogie Nights CD (Volume 1) rules. The cool touches are there, such as Mark Wahlberg's terrible-funny singing on the opening track. Feel the heat, baby. Most of the other songs groove. Spill the Wine still kicks ass after all these years. And Sister Christian is, well, motorin'. The sour note for me on is "God Only Knows" by the Beach Boys. God only knows, indeed. Boogie Nights II has a lot more filler material to my taste, especially the last half of it. Can't recommend that one, though the first few songs rock my world. One great thing is they kept the original complete version of "Fooled Around and Fell in Love", including extra verse and the entire solo. I could listen to that bluesy 6/8 feel all day, despite those sexist lyrics. Then again, they're kinda funny to listen to now. Suffice it to say you won't hear this tune at Eleanor Smeal's wedding. Eheh. Dennis Pupello II Technology Division, City of Brooksville, Florida personal email: dpupello@gate.net work email: webmaster@ci.brooksville.fl.us WWW personal: http://www.gate.net/~dpupello WWW govt: http://www.ci.brooksville.fl.us ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dennis F. Pupello II" <dpupello@gate.net> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:14:40 -0400 Subject: Crymes and Mysdimeanors Chris Delp <cld@sprintmail.com> wrote: Subject: prism records [Silly stuff written by Chris berating Mike Bahr's unhappy customers - deleted] >and for those of you like the fellow who wrote the above, all you deserve is a kick in the teeth. Now that's the NMS spirit. I'm sure Rush would be glad to have a 'fan' like you. >id be happy to provide this service to you. your a peice of shit. its maybe your just to stupid to Okay. If you're going to threaten somebody, at least capitalize your sentences. And the word is "you're", which stands for "you are," not "your." Oh, and the word is "piece," not "peice." By the way, "to stupid" should be "too stupid." What's that story about the pot calling the kettle black? This is reminiscent of when somebody wants to talk like a tough guy, but writes, "I'm gonna kick you ass." Ahahahaha. >you suck and i hope you get ripped off so badly that you stop listening to rush and go back to >your dick cheese radio top 40! Ah, one must go to a bowling alley to meet someone of your stature. If you need escorting back to the lanes, I can provide this service to you. Dennis Pupello II Technology Division, City of Brooksville, Florida personal email: dpupello@gate.net work email: webmaster@ci.brooksville.fl.us WWW personal: http://www.gate.net/~dpupello WWW govt: http://www.ci.brooksville.fl.us ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Mmcxii <mmcxii@usa.net> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:00:12 Subject: Mmcxii: Final word (better be...) In our last episode, John wrote: >If the album we all know and love were called "Two Thousand One >Hundred Twelve" then I could easily go along with "MMCXII" as the >Roman numeral designator for it. However...that album was, is, and >always will be "Twenty One Twelve", hence XXI XII (note the space!). >Now, if you see a red Buick Regal GS driving around downtown Chicago >with XXI XII on its license plates, that would be me (unless >someone's just stolen it ;-)). >With all due respect to Mr/Mrs/Ms MMCXII, I'm afraid that I'd >mispronounce your last name every single time. Sorry. >Regards, >John John, I appreciate your remarks regarding your personal interpretation of Roman Numeral usage, however, I feel compelled to point out the huge gaping hole in your logic. Let's examine the album 2112 (notice the absence of a space between 21 and 12). While it is pronounced "Twenty-one Twelve," it is considered to be representing a year in time, the year "Two Thousand One Hundred Twelve AD (read the liner notes and/or the tourbook dialog on the website if you doubt this). Therefore the designation of two separate numbers, "Twenty-one" and "Twelve," would be just that, two separate numbers. Messrs Peart, Lee, and Lifeson did not title the album 21 12 so XXI XII would not be a proper designation when using Roman numerals. Case in point, look at the credits for any movie. When they list the year the movie was produced at the end of every string of credits they list that year in Roman numerals. You will not find a listing for a movie produced in 1984 as IXX LXXXIV, no indeed. You'll find it listed as MCMLXXXIV. Notice the characters are all together, with no spaces. This designates an entire representation of the year. While the year 1984 is pronounced "Nineteen Eighty-four," it is most certainly not written as two separate numbers. Those that are also as experienced in the correct usage of the Roman numeral system would have to concur. So, while that album was, is, and always will be pronounced "Twenty One Twelve" (2112) your translation of the Roman numeral representation was, is and always will be WRONG! As far as your inane comments about the name I've chosen, the moniker "Mmcxii" is not intended, nor was ever intended to be pronounced. It is meant to be a challenge for one to decipher, realize, recognize, and finally, appreciate. In other words, it is meant to be read, not spoken. Besides, I'd much rather attempt to pronounce Mmcxii than Xxixii any day. If I do happen to see your red Buick Regal GS driving through Chi-town someday, then all I'm afraid I'd have to giggle... Mmcxii (That'd be Mr. Mmcxii or Sir to you John) P.S. While I have the soapbox out, I'd like to retract a portion of an earlier post about electing not to enter the bitchaboutthesetlist" conversation. While not technically a bitch, I'd like to add: As long as the boys are listening, the only addition I'd like to see to the DS setlist is "Cold Fire" from Counterparts, a great song from a great album. If you can squeeze it in, great. If not, great. I'm an "easy to please" Rush fan... "Some peoples kids..." Me Mmcxii@usa.net Mmcxii@geocities.com MmcxiiYYZ@aol.com GSGordon@wnp2.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:25:28 -0700 Subject: tabcon memories Saturday, 2:30 am--I arrive, sleeping bodies all oever Al's house. $ drunks in the kitchen trying to play Rainbow's "Since You've Been Gone" on an acoustic guitar. Playing the Jaymz Bee and the Royal Jelly Orchestra version of CTTH, to much horror from the crowd, although Adrienned like it. Breakfast and shower, 8 am. Set up my guitar tree with my Washburn, Schecter, 12 string hollow and custom 10-string. Drool over the TWO PRS' tht were brought. Add my Korg to the Synthesizer Wall of Death. Listen to jimmy and others wail on guitar. Getting the chili started and the burgers to marinating. Practicing La Villa for the 500th time this month. Adrienne sitting on the piano bench, headset and practice pad. John sitting nearby, headset and guitar. Jimmy inthe living room. Al at his computer downloading MIDI files. Matt listening to CD, guitar in hand. A roar of Rush from the basement. SFN, me on Rhythym. Not too bad. Awesome bass line from...one of the Sean's? Nothing for me until Sunday. drink afew beers. Serve the chili. Drink a few more beers ;). more music, Cook the burgers. More music, including an early version of FBN, me on Rhythym. More drinking, knock off and watch South Park and Seinfeld. Go to sleep EARLY this time, in the laundry room for quiet. 2am, some yutz flips on the laundry room light to see who is sleeping there--ME! Sunday, scramble eggs for everybody, cook bacon, do some over easy eggs for others, down to playing. FBN sounds good. La Villa postponed. Adrienne doing an awesome job of drumming on The Weapon. Jimmy's not bad, either. Or any of the other 3 drummers--Sean? who else? Chris maybe? You know who you are. La Villa postponed again. Practice it a dozen more times. Butcher it badly, postponed until next year. CTTH sounds good. Improv jam on Limelight. More beer, more chili. Find out there's no babysitter for Monday--drive home from 11 until 6. I'll actually practice between now and next year--Hopefully this 3 year hiatus is over. - mike "Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl kills the first woman she meets, then teams up with three complete strangers to kill again." -- TV listing for "The Wizard of Oz" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: galahad77@juno.com (Ryan N Waggoner) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:18:03 -0500 Subject: Year book quotes... <<<New thread? Did anyone use a Rush quote in their high school yearbook?>>> Well, not with my pic, but as I signed my best friend's year book, I wrote "Freeze this moment a little longer, make each sensation a little bit stronger" under my name. I don't even remember if I attributed it to Neil or not, but this guy was a huge Rush fan, too, so I'm sure he would've figured it out eventually (I don't think he's quite as affected by "Time Stand Still" as I am, because he hasn't exactly experienced life yet...just done nothing but school...not even real sure that he really *knows* the song...he's more into 76-81 Rush, and I just sort of float along through the catalogue, whatever suits my mood at that point...). Ryan/Stimpy KYA + KGC "Someday we'll find it: the rainbow connection; the lovers, the dreamers, and me." Kermit the Frog ("The Rainbow Connection") Visit my page!! < http://members.xoom.com/rstimpyw/ > PS. Are my posts really all *that* annoying, Mr. Fred Pinto? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Pinto <FPinto@mzad.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 98 10:42:20 -0700 Subject: what to discuss on the nms??? Gary wrote: >Rush gives us a new 3 cd set and all I read about is the pissing and >moaning about the set list.. >You pay your $40 to see the concert dont you?????? >You know damn well that "Tom Sawyer", "The Spirit Of Radio", and "Closer To >The Heart", >are getting played that night sometime. >They are called "signature songs" you expect them in concert therefore you >should expect it >on the live album////WHAT DID YOU EXPECT?????????? >Considering all that is going on with the band we should be happy we are >fucking getting anything at all...... >So SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO THE MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!! hi gary, how do you feel about the morality of bootlegging? can you tell me what's in your cd changer at this very moment? what are neil's religious beliefs? is the garbled noise at 8:49 in the camera eye a burp or a voice saying morning guv? and what about _______(fill in blank with any rush song noise description) heard at ________(fill in blank with the exact time in the song where said noise is heard) in ________(fill in blank with the song with said noise)? should we pray for neil on the nms? does dream theatre kick ass or what? counterparts or test for echo, which kicks more ass? what IS the pass about? which actors look most like rush? what's in your cd changer at this very moment? what is your favorite album? name your favorite concept album? what other crap do you listen to besides rush? can you recommend any albums i might like if i listen to floyd, green day, 311, zeppelin and the police? do rush worship satan? is the red star of the solar federation a pentagram? come to think about it, what is a pentagram? why does ______ (fill in blank with the rush album you think is the weakest) suck so bad? should we sit or stand at a rush concert? do bootleggers infringe on the bands rights? am i wrong to own bootlegs? "this is my first post", how many seconds before you hit the page down key? seriously, what's in your cd changer at this very moment? can you tell me what IS appropriate to discuss on the nms since the new album setlist pisses you off so much, and we all know the nms is done for you only, and no one else who reads the list has any say on topics that we discuss. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:30:00 -0700 Subject: prizes! An orbital mind control laser caused (The RUSH Fans Digest Goddess) to say: > The designer of the chosen banner will get a prize (not sure what yet, but > I'll think of something), just for saving me the trouble of having to be > creative! :-) You could give them a free NMS shirt of the batch I've offered to do for cheap ;) - mike God was my co-pilot, but we crashed in the Andes and I had to eat him. [ Digest Goddess? Hm... I like that! :-) I know, the shirts, the shirts, it's on my mile-long list of things to get around to when I have a life and about 3 months off of work. : rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:41:44 -0700 Subject: octapad An orbital mind control laser told "Kevin & Vickie" to say: >It is well known that drummers have BIG........imaginations!!!! Well, at 4' 8", that's all Adrienne has that's big.. (Just joking, ma'am.) >Whoever thought that "ding" in Hemispheres was electronically produced >and played with an Octopad has a bigger imagination than even me. >Everybody knows that is the classic sound of a crotale that makes that >"ding". well, we didn't have a crotale at tabcon. we had an octapad. Are you suggesting that we cheated?!?!?!? US!?!?!!?!? - mike "Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl kills the first woman she meets, then teams up with three complete strangers to kill again." -- TV listing for "The Wizard of Oz" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Ware" <Daniel.Ware@enmu.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:17:52 Subject: yearbook quotes... Hey gang... Oooooo, neat thread....Amoung other things not Rush related, my final line in my Senior quote was taken from Prime Mover: (Forgive me if I get this wrong, I don't have the lyrics right in front of me...) "From the point of ignition, to the final drive, the point of the journey, is not to arrive." I think that about summed it all up... Cheers from New Mexico... Dan Jesus is coming..Look busy ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Costello, Bryan" <Bryan.Costello@sea.siemens.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:49:54 -0400 Subject: Madonna ripped off Rush...Pearl Jam to the rescue? I just saw on a newsgroup that Pearl Jam is performing the Madonna song "Ray of Light" in concert, for they are pissed that she ripped off Rush. Can anyone, anywhere shed some light on this as to the validity of it and just how did she rip off Rush with that song? Most Puzzled... Bryan C "if voting could change things, They'd make it illegal." Stiv Bators 1982 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Brett Gentzel <brett.gentzel@seer.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:58:55 -0400 Subject: The joke about the "ding" in Hemispheres >"I question the post about the "electronically simulated bell-like sound" in >Hemispheres being the sound from a Roland Octapad - as a drummer this makes >no sense....etc" > >Since it was my post he was responding to.... > >It was a joke. More specifically, a take-off on a unecessarily tiring >debate that occurred on this list a long while back (hopefully never to be >repeated again) > >I apologize for my failed attempt at humor. Dan, I for one appreciated the joke. I could NOT believe the two subsequent posts which "corrected" you. Just goes to show you that "hard core" fans can be the most short-sighted of them all... brett ---------------------------------------------------------- From: sfinkel@qualcomm.com Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:05:05 -0700 Subject: a wave is building... Just read Eric Gumtow's post about Better Than Ezra and Third Eye Blind mentioning Rush influences. I sense that a potential wave is building here folks--take a look at the big picture. - Last year-ish, (two years ago?) a tribute album is released (regardless of the lack of endorsement by the band, its still a tribute, and those musicians still worked hard at it, even if we (most of us, and the band) don't like it very much) This year: -Tom Sawyer gets used in Small Soldiers, remixed (a tribute, and a classy one IMO) -original version of TS gets used in some other movie (forgot which one) -VH1 does pop-up video on Rush (not a huge deal, but something...) - I'm sure I could rack my brain and come up with many more but let me get to my point. Many of Rush's influences are coming of age and getting their own recognition--bands like BTE, 3EB, too many others to name. I sense that a wave is building, and that the media (RRHF, RStone, etc) are going to have to stand up and take notice. (not that we or the band really care) But they will have no choice. Rush will wind up in the Hall, not that we (or they) care. Its just a matter of time and timing. They simply are the Kings of Progressive Rock. The long and the short of it is that I think the influence of Rush on other successful groups speaks for itself to some extent, and that sort of influence is something that cannot be tuned out/ignored. I sense increased coverage and popularity for Rush coming soon. (for better or worse) Any chance anyone caught that Rockline on tape? (with BTE) I'd be willing to digitize it for all to hear.... Lastly, someone said something about TS never being performed differently, in all its live incarnations. I think The Boyz should have DJ Tripp guest at the next show, and they should do a live version of the remix. That would be phat indeed. PEACE,BREAD, and RUSH Not that you care.... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Dennis Pupello II <bvillefl@gate.net> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:08:39 -0400 Subject: SCTV "matthew alexander majewski" <majewski@mailcity.com> wrote: >Greetings friends! >Is there anyone on this list that lives in West Mifflin, Pa... Welcome kiddies, to Count Floyd's Monster Chiller Horror Theater. Our feature tonight, guaranteed to scare the pants right off of you -- booooo! - is, is, Blood Sucking Monkeys from West Mifflin, Pennsylvania! Owwhooooooooooooooo! Haha. Look at that guy dancing there, he's scary too. The Veapon. _______________________________________ Dennis Pupello II Technology Division City of Brooksville, Florida city web: http://www.ci.brooksville.fl.us work email: webmaster@ci.brooksville.fl.us personal web: http://www.gate.net/~dpupello/ personal email: dpupello@gate.net (352) 544-5435 Ext. 126 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Adrian Cagnani" <adrian@pocos-net.com.br> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:41:06 -0300 Subject: Rush and King Crimson Hey fellow rushians. Yesterday I was listening an album of my second most adored band, King Crimson (I think you guess who's the first), and I noticed two interesting things to say to NMS people: 1- Bill Bruford is maybe the only rock drummer as good as Neil Peart ; 2- Coincidently, there's a King Crimson song, on the album THREE OF A PERFECT PAIR, called NEIL AND JACK AND ME. Is there someone else who is a King Crimson fan ? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rushfan.2112@juno.com (Christopher W Lindsay) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:19:47 -0400 Subject: Poll I'm stopping the poll. Everyone is happy with the new set list. I should have started it before the change. I believe that the majority was happy with the set list by just "being thankful for a new live album." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Lynch <JML1@valley-media.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:23:30 -0700 Subject: rush spotting in the latest billboard; y2k and the music The Aug 29 issue of Billboard has an interesting column by Chuck Taylor on the past, present and future of AM radio. To lead the article, he quotes from The Spirit of Radio: "Invisible airwaves crackle with life..." through ..."almost free." Pretty cool. Thanks Chuck, if you're on the list. Also, Billboard has a couple of feature articles on y2k and the music industry. Everyone on record is positive, but some unnamed sources are somewhat negative. It will be interesting to see who's right. Joe Lynch Valley Media, Inc. jml1@valley-media.com (530) 661-7810 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rushfan.2112@juno.com (Christopher W Lindsay) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:57:25 -0400 Subject: RUSH does not owe us *RUSH does not owe the average fan anything. They owe themselves to put out a good product that will succeed. RUSH "should" do what the fans ask for, but don't necessarily "have" to... Let me explain. You are correct, that we do buy their stuff, albums, tickets, and memorabilia. However, we "choose" to purchase their products. They are not a business that we have invested in and continue to invest in to make money. For example, if you are a loyal COKE drinker, and they want to redesign their logo, should they go to their loyal consumers for advice? NO. The principal investors have more say and COKE needs to listen to them. Record companies put a lot more money than the individual ever could, and therefore are owed much more by RUSH. That is, the record company after putting hundreds of thousands of dollars in investments (promo, concert, videos, advertising, etc.) should have RUSH's ear first before the fans. However, if coke changes their product (i.e. New Coke) and the consumers revolt, then they learn something. That's why what RUSH did was a smart thing for them to do. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: fsrmusic@juno.com Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:45:57 EDT Subject: TS single? >.[ Tom Sawyer has already been released as a single in 1998, >from the "Small Soldiers" soundtrack. Of course it's the >remixed version... : rush-mgr ] You mean there's a single available? Man I missed that, I thought there was only the whole sndtrk. Is ther a CD single or only cassette? [ Oops, I should clarify this. There is a SAMPLER cd for the "Small Soldiers" soundtrack that has Tom Sawyer, plus two or three other songs. As far as I know, TS was not released BY ITSELF, and the sampler is only on CD. SouthlandCD had a few of them, but I think they're out now... : rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- From: fsrmusic@juno.com Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:12:39 EDT Subject: Rush logo stickers ! Hey Rushians, I got my hands on some really cool Rush logo stickers. E me privatly if your interested in details. fsrmusic.@juno.com >...---... The Analog Kid Rory ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Guy Walker <reklaw@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:29:34 -0500 Subject: Change To Eden(CTE)...the original _TE "The greatest band that nobody ever heard of.." CTE,is a band that's been around since the early eightes. A perfect blend of Rush,Zepplin,Doors,Crimson,and the Fixx...go figure. The better that ezra guy's (before they were ezra) would come out and hear 'em play.Ezra formed and managed to do what CTE could never pull-off...be in the right place at the right time.I'm not saying anything bad about Ezra,I think they play some cool stuff.I just wish people knew that before there was BTE there was CTE. The new CTE web page is finaly up...it's still being worked on but there are some wav's if your interested in hearing the new sounds of Change. www.changetoeden.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Aiken <snowdog@west.net> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Rush owes us nothing. That's right. Nothing. The music that they have given us over the years is our treat for sticking with them. To repeat, the music is the reward. We have no right to expect or demand a thing from any of them. Do not let the fact that they responded to their fans' wishes go to your head. If I was is their shoes, I would feel a sense of gratitude to the fans, and I would WANT to give them more of what they want. But I do not think I would feel OBLIGATED to give them more. I would hope that my fan base (in this purely hypothetical situation) would not have this "gimme" attitude that we are all seeing right now anyway. If they truly felt like they owed us something for our faithfulness (both emotional and financial), they would sell the cd set for next to nothing, and take a big loss for their fans' sake. Somehow I don't think that will happen. Do you realize how childish it is to say, "I've been buying your albums and going to your concerts for __ years; you OWE ME!"? WHY have you been buying the albums for so long? Because all along, the music has the reward for your diligence. I urge you to practice some humility once in a while. It's very healthy. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Scott Aiken snowdog@west.net | | http://www.west.net/~snowdog scotta@ksimaging.com | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: <lulu@macconnect.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 98 19:10:12 -0000 Subject: Rush-related tattoos Hello fellow Rush freaks! This may be a little outdated by now - I first read about this thread last week, and then my modem got fried in a storm. I have a new modem now, so here I go again... I remember a few months back we tossed this thread around for a while. I've got a Rush-related tattoo on my left ankle. It's the design from the back of the Counterparts CD called subjective contours. Not only is it on the CD, I found it in a psychology book (I was a psych minor in college). It's kind-of hard to describe - simply put, it's the image that looks like Pac-Mans and Vs. When you look at the image, your mind closes the picture for you and you see an upside-down triangle (if you think I'm crazy, grab your CP jewel case and look at the picture - you'll understand!). It's a really cool tattoo to have because I haven't come across one single person who has the same one! By the way, did you hear that President Clinton has changed the U.S.'s national bird? The spread eagle. Ha ha... And out of curiosity, will any of you be at the Indianapolis/Deer Creek Aerosmith show on September 21?? Rush on, guys! Caroline In the CD changer: Eric Johnson - Ah Via Musicom Stevie Ray Vaughan - Live at Carnegie Hall Primus - Frizzle Fry Rush - 2112 Creed - My Own Prison Brian Setzer Orchestra - The Dirty Boogie ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Bronstein <b076586c@bc.seflin.org> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:23:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: yearbook quote i graduated in 1990. my quote- "although it's just a memory, some memories last forever." Rob Bronstein ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Seth <hopeflguy@sprint.ca> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:16:57 -0400 Subject: NMS nice place to be/Can Carter B, etc. play Neils solos??? Heya all: Just wanted to say, the LOSERS on the Alt.Music.Rush newsgroup all are bitching because we, as fans, exercised our democratic right to voice, and the rec. company listened. So if there are any a.m.r rush "fans" on here that have a problem with this 1) You can tell the MAJORITY wanted the change 2)You should grow up, get a job, or take your medication. Anyways, just wanted to say there has been alot of positive feedback on the NMS about this, which just proves most Rush fans are intelligent, decscent poeple. Ok....enough slagging AMR...WAY too easy..heh. Just wanted to add my thoughts on people who think that some of these younger players, like Carter from DMB, that Neil FAR from shows off most of his talent in Rush songs. My challenge to them would to see them execute The Rythm Method (t4e tour) FLAWLESSLY. Don't forget, Buddy Rich got better as he got older, and it's almost evident in Neil's case. Anyways...till Nov.17 (errr..thats the date, right??...heh!:) Seth ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kurdian, LT. Armen H" <akurdi@emh1.lincoln.navy.mil> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 00:21:25 -0700 Subject: I'm not wearing any pants! Sans my usual silliness, let me ask this.... Why include a live set from 1978 in the 3CD set if they plan on releasing a box set? It would make more sense to include it in a box than a "new" live album. It's been said before and I'll repeat it here...I too am very disappointed w/the setlist, missing "Where's my Thing," "Analog Kid," and anything from Presto, even though Presto is my least favorite of the last four studio albums. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: denimking@juno.com (z z z) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 19:50:47 -0500 Subject: favorite non-rush song, and some rambling i do have many non-rush songs that i really like. but two of my favorites are "the unknown knows" and "paint it black" (glenn tipton's remake). "the unknown..." (nothingface) is done by (appropriately enough) Voivod (canada!) and has such angry growling bass work by jean-yves theriault. "paint it black" (baptizm of fire) is an excellent song, Glenn Tipton returns turns so-so 'Stones song into a total powerhouse of music, amazing! not to be overlooked, "metal heart" (live, Accept) and "baptizm of fire" (Glenn Tipton) have jawdropping guitar solos and are just plain remarkable. if you're into Judas Priest at all, or just like some good heavy stuff you NEED to get baptizm of fire, it blows so many other former-axman/ frontman/ lead singer solo debuts out of the water! no contest. you won't be disappointed. and as always, you can get all the above albums from BMG, but i'm not sure that they still carry nothingface. mail me if you need #'s. if any of you out there like rush or iron maiden (quite a long shot...) i suggest you listen to something by Voivod if you can find it. they are excellent musicians, though they sound almost nothing like anyone else. but a lot of the lyrics to songs really make you think. dimension hatröss probably isn't your best bet for a "starter" album (provided you can find it anywhere!). adam "If at first you don't succeed, it's probably someone else's fault." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Miller's" <ckmiller@pond.net> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:17:08 -0700 Subject: Different Stages listening party I was thinking about the upcoming release and wondered if anyone had made plans for a listening party at 12:01 on November 17. I have a buddy who works at a local record & cd store who could possibly organize an early opening of the store. Then, Rush fans could get the discs earlier than other folks and then maybe we could mingle and b.s. about Rush or whatever. What about a bootleg trading session too? I live in the Eugene, Oregon area. Any other fans near me? I will talk to my buddy and get back to anyone who contacts me privately. Colin "Try me, I rock" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: galahad77@juno.com (Ryan N Waggoner) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:17:45 -0500 Subject: Just wondering... When you're listening to "Jacob's Ladder", does anyone else think Geddy sings "The clowns prepare for battle?" ;) Ryan/Stimpy KYA + KGC "Someday we'll find it: the rainbow connection; the lovers, the dreamers, and me." Kermit the Frog ("The Rainbow Connection") Visit my page!! < http://members.xoom.com/rstimpyw/ > ----------------------------------------------------------
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