The National Midnight Star #2040

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@yyz.com Subject: 05/26/98 - The National Midnight Star #2040
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Re: Hello...Morning Gov Opening Songs El Paso, TX '96 nms issue #2112 Do you smell smoke???? issue #2112 most played live / kazoo! lyrics in remastered fbn twisted beliefs Tai Shan - A Wonderful Song! Trivial Questions, Most Song Played Live, Kazoo? Who will play? (The boys in the movies that is) personalized plates out-takes The Billings Metrapark A Show Of fans Limelight on the charts Song played the most live... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin L. Kitchens" <peiprog@peiprog.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:41:45 -0500 Subject: Re: Rush to Limbaugh #2039 > In all truth, Rush(the guy) has lost a lot of weight (see an episode of > Drew Carey this last season) Since he, at one time, was a rock and roll > DJ in the 70's, I'll bet he is, or at least was, a fan of the band, for > perhaps as simple a reason as they share the same name. That is his real > name, BTW... Cheers from New Mexico.. Dan Quite true...he has lost a (figurative) ton. Whoever does his bumper music must be a fan, because I am pretty sure I've heard some Rush on Rush before. Nearly fell off my chair at the irony. Kevin Kevin L. Kitchens, PEI Programming, Stone Mountain, Georgia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- PEI Programming: http://www.peiprog.com The BEST Installer: WISE -Info: http://www.wisesolutions.com The BEST Grid: SpreadOCX -Info: http://www.fpoint.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin L. Kitchens" <peiprog@peiprog.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:45:23 -0500 Subject: Re: Women in Rush songs #2039 > Madonna? HELL NO!! Sheryl Crow? Well, maybe.....But I was thinking that > since the boys are Canadians maybe they'll stick with their own country > folk. I was thinking Alannis Morrissette - she's from Canada. Sound good? ARGH! At least pick someone with TALENT and some sense of moral character. Not necessarily MY morals, but some morals nonetheless. How about Anne Murray? They can sing Danny's Song or Daydream Believer? Celine Dion? She and Geddy could share clothes and nose tips? Kevin L. Kitchens, PEI Programming, Stone Mountain, Georgia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- PEI Programming: http://www.peiprog.com The BEST Installer: WISE -Info: http://www.wisesolutions.com The BEST Grid: SpreadOCX -Info: http://www.fpoint.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 13:39:40 -0700 Subject: moogs and moods >"Michael vieira" said: >could someone please tell me privately what the heck a moog is? An analog synthesizer with envelope and and filter controls for the tones generated. >and does anyone else think that the remastering of "into the darkness", >of the necromancer wrecked the texture? what i mean is that there are >alot of forward and backwards guitar parts on that song. Haven't heard the remaster, but those guitar parts are ADSR'd--(attack/decay/sustain/release)--similar to what Al does with a volume pedal, but more so. You can control how fast the sound comes in, how fast it chops off, and a minimum level at which it will be allowed through the system. It's possible that someone diddled with them on the board during remastering, not knowing what effect Al was trying for. They might have "fixed" something that wasn't broken. mike "The ancient Egyptians used to worship cats as gods. Cats have never forgotten this."--Mad Mike ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 13:42:40 -0700 Subject: in the end >"Mikey" said: <> >Okay... I need some info on this... I was working on "In The End" and >During the guitar solo (at approx. 4:22 on the CD) It sounds like the >guitar that is bending the A a full step to B is doubled by a Kazoo!!! >REALLY!!! lsiten to it... like RIGHT NOW... and tell me it's called "More distortion than a human being should be allowed to play with without a license." run in stereo mike http://www.2112.net/daggers rush-related stickers ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Gordon and Kathy Jones <gkjones@lava.net> Date: Wed, 20 May 98 09:04:32 -0000 Subject: Issue 2112; kids and RUSH Kevin Kitchens wrote: >I think that a call should go out and allow people to send in simple ONE or >TWO line comments about Rush, what they like, memories, etc. directed TO >THE BAND. > >Have these sent to the Rush-Mgr with the Subject of "Issue #2112 message." This has been done, has it not? If my memory serves, wasn't a book compiled and sent to the band for their anniversary a few years back? Since I have now broken my three year lurking stint with TNMS, I'll take a second to say thanks. Although I don't get the time to read this newsletter much anymore, it sure is nice to know it's here. I've been an obsessed RUSH fan for the greater part of my life (discovered them when I was 15, am now... ahem....32). And found that I wasn't alone with this obsession when Idiscovered TMNS a few years ago... Whew! What a relief! I officially quit trying to "enlighten" my friends and family by bombarding them with the songs which I thought one only needed to hear to be awe struck by. Of course, most weren't (which I still don't understand, but now accept). My 10 year old son has apparantly caught the RUSH bug. I always knew he was a spectacular child! Of course I am thrilled (we conspire against the rest of the family by slipping RUSH cd's into the player). Unfortunately though, this means I have to occassionally retrieve a stack of cd's from his room. Anyone else have kids who like THE BAND? I'm curious to know which cd's/songs kids like. My son's favorite cd and song is PRESTO/Presto. He also likes Half the World and Time Stands Still. Like I said, he is a spectacular child. So there is hope for the next generation! Rush on! Kathy ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 13:55:12 -0700 Subject: chorus >> Slim Jim said: "Michael Z. Williamson" writes: Alex got into chorus effects because Jaco Pastorius was in le Studio with Joni and had one of Fender's first chorus amps. >>Alex makes extensive use of chorus effects on the first album, which >>wasn't recorded at Le Studio if I remember rightly - so I don't think >>we can credit the late great Jaco Pastorius with this. No, he used overdubs. Chorusing is an electronic effect that was invented in the mid-seventies. Alex reports in various interviews that he started using chorus in '77. I'll look for the article. There's also his comment on Counterparts about "Ending my horrible 15 year dependency on Chorus." mike If you use reverse reverb and digital delay does the sound come out before you play it? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Ware" <Daniel.Ware@enmu.edu> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 13:19:14 -0600 Subject: Obligatory songs, TS, CttH, etc.. Hey gang.... Regarding the comment about some songs, like Tom Sawyer, Closer to the Heart, and Spirit of Radio becoming redundant live, I kind of disagree.. I mean, I love hearing the new music and the classics like 2112, Hemispheres, Subdivisions, etc, but I would also feel a little empty if the three songs above weren't played. As far as Tom Sawyer, that's a signature classic. It's also cool to see several thousand air drummers in the front rows playing along. Closer to the Heart brings out that "chilling effect" when everyone sings the first verse along with Geddy and when everyone sparks up their lighters. I don't smoke, but I bring a lighter just for that song.. And Spirit of Radio, above all others is the true signature song. For me, SoR embodies why I love Rush. That and the role the crowd plays after Geddy sings "Concert halls." There are just some songs that will always be played by cetain groups. For Marillion, it's Kayleigh, for Yes, it's Roundabout, and for Rush, those three songs will be a mainstay. I'm all for the tinkering they do, like on CttH. It made the song more enjoyable in my opinion. Maybe some day they'll record the different version in the studio. I can dream can't I? Cheers from New Mexico.. Dan ---------------------------------------------------------- From: p_ferrara@juno.com (Paul J Ferrara) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:04:28 -0400 Subject: Limelight Hey, anyone who has been to the NMS website knows that there is a great selection of multimedia files to choose from. And, i am prolly sure that the Rush-mgr has the Limelight pop-up video on videotape. So how about putting 2 and 2 together? I say you make a RealVideo version and put it up on the website! And for the future, maybey getting realserver! :) [ Hm, guess you haven't checked the web site recently? It's been up there since the day after it aired... : rush-mgr ] Mr. Paul J. Ferrara -- Toms River, NJ E-Mail- P_Ferrara@Juno.com ______________________________________________________ "Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Finkel <sfinkel@qualcomm.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 12:38:32 -0700 Subject: TAFKATB makes a comeback For all you appreciators of the artist formerly known as the Breadman.... Toastado ================= If we burn our toast Frying too hot for the bun If the moment of golden(brown) Has past us before its noticed If the slice is done -- Though everything is charred We will scrape the blackstuff But we will not spread the lard When the carbon's been cleared And victory denied Tortilla too soft-y Bagel's a little too wide If the jam does glide -- Though loaves so nice are lost We will heat the rice, But we will not serve the toast And if the toaster stops There's only the pound-cake to blame All the hope and glory All the kneading done in vain [and] if the loaf has grains Though every slice is tossed We will slay them twice But the baker we'll not accost My apologies to rush fans everywhere for this travesty of humor. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric J Staley" <ejstaley@ashland.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:09:42 -0400 Subject: Beyond Borders and Censorship Good day. I have two items. First, here is an e-mail that I got from Rik Emmett. It sums up the liklihood of ever seeing "Beyond Borders" on a forthcoming CD. At the time that I asked him that question, he indicated that he did not have the master tape. I told him that it was available at the TNMS site (I incorrectly used the term "bootleg." My apologies to Rush-mgr), and this is the response: Dear Eric: Thanks for the info. I noticed in the Discussion Forum on the web site that I got slagged for appearing to be a tightwad millionaire searching for a few nickels in the dirt over this issue...hardly the truth. I was actually taking a bit of a stab at the no-respect-for-copyright nature of the Internet, and the abuse of private creative properties that is so apparent in this domain. There's also another issue at work, too. Actually, Alex, Liona, Ed and I did the project purely for its educational (and, undoubtedly, its promotional) value, and I am sort of glad to discover that even though "Borders" is being "bootlegged", as you describe it, it is being offered free of charge. I suppose that's cool, and in keeping with the spirit of the project in the first place. As far as a future release goes, that's probably a giant can of worms. How could I get the other artists to sign off on allowing me to profit from the thing? Why would I want to? The magazine only had the right to print it on vinyl inserts in their magazine that one time - technically, they don't own the master, or the publishing copyright - I guess I do. But that's not the major stumbling block, anyhow. Here is just another major irritating hunk of ex-Triumph bull-oney. Upon deciding to leave the partnership, I was not prescient enough to take a quiet little visit to the tape storage of The Metalworks and grab all the tapes, masters, safety masters, etc. of unreleased things I had done - little side projects that I had recorded, outtakes and unreleased materials from over the years that had not made their way to the public. (I'm not just talking about TRIUMPH projects here, either - I'm talking about stuff from totally outside of the partnership umbrella - solo things, guitar pieces, acoustic stuff, demos, projects with other musicians, and stuff exactly like that GP Beyond Borders project.) Later, after things had definitely turned adversarial and my faith in my fellow man (well, some of my fellow men, anyways) was being severely tested (for several years), I sent out word through the lawyers to try to get access to, and recover that stuff. Well - guess what the official word that came back down the line was? It was that the tape library had been reorganized, and that all that stuff had been thrown out and/or destroyed. Uh huh. And sometimes, pigs fly. So that's why I'm kind of leery about anybody anywhere profiting from that stuff. As long as all that stuff is actually dead and gone and buried, well, that's life (so to speak). But if anything ever resurfaces that shouldn't, well, that would be unfortunate and puzzling and unsettling and unkosher, wouldn't it? And in all good conscience (I'd like to believe that I still have mine, even if critics and Discussion Forum writers and other former acquaintances may have lost theirs), I'd have to try and do something about it. Thanks again for writing. Sincerely, Rik Emmett There we are. No Beyond Borders on CD. And, no Triumph reunion tour, either. My second item involves any situation in which someone has their post expurgated by the Rush-mgr. Too many people start whining about censorship and refer to the First Amendment. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the First Amendment DOES NOT state that your beleifs and opinions MUST BE posted in TNMS. State them if you wish, but to claim that Rush-mgr is violating your civil rights if she chooses not to include them is silly! That is all. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: John Tyler <jatyler@execpc.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:15:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Geddy interview part 3 I'll be in Canada on a fishing trip till next week so I'll include a couple of questions today. (From the Dec '96 Guitar School) The Third question is were Geddy solves the many mysteries of His Basses!!!! GS--- How about amplification? Geddy Lee--- I didn't use any live amps this time. I used a combination of DI's and speaker simulators: a demeter tube direct, a palmer speaker simulator, and a SansAmp. During the early stages of the bed tracks, we fiddles around with various pieces of equipment, but this setup worked best. I've done it this way before, but I think the combination of those three things created enough of an amp sound that I found very satisfying. I've never had that experience in the past. Usually I've felt like there was something missing. GS--- So what gear will you take on the road? Geddy Lee--- I'll still use my Trace Elliot Quatra 4vr amps and the Trace Elliot GP12SMX preamp, and I'd like to take the SansAmp/Palmer conbination, too, Because I think It will work better with some venues' PA systems. I'm going to experiment with it in rehearsals. GS--- Tell us about your first ever bass.-a Corona, wasn't it? Geddy Lee--- Right. I bought it from the local music shop for like 35 bucks, when I was around 14 or 15. My mother loaned me the money. I wanted a bass, and that one looked good [laughs]. And then I had a Hagstrom, which I used right up through the early incarnations of Rush, when I got a '69 Fender Precision. Once we'd gotten our first record deal, I had enough money to buy a Rickenbacher 4001, which I'd always wanted because of watching Chris Squire and Paul McCartney. I liked the fact that the "Ricky" had a separate control for the treble pickup and and for the bass pickup. I used those for years until I started playing a Steinberger, which was for a strange reason: It was physically easier for me to get in and around around my keyboards using the smaller bass. It was lighter, it didn't whack into my other mics, and it was ergonomically easier to get around my gear during that heavy keyboard period. But the sound just wasn't good enough; it was too limiting. It's a good practice bass, though, whenever I travel I usually take it with me. And then I went to Wals for a few years; our producer Peter Collins, had introduced me to them, and I'd used one of his on [1985's] POWERWINDOWS. I'd heard them before; Percy Jones from Brand X used one, and I loved that sound. That's when I also started using lighter gauge strings, which gave a little more snap to my top end. So I used those until COUNTERPARTS; then I went back to the Fender Jazz, which I'd also used on at least half of MOVING PICTURES. Like on "Tom Sawyer" --a lot of people think thats the "Ricky", but it's the Jazz. Well, there is onlt one question left and I'll post that when I get back from my trip. See y'all later, John Tyler/Racine Wisconsin E-mail--jatyler@execpc.com "To function efficiently, any group of people or employees must have faith in their leader." Capt. Bligh (ret.) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Costello, Bryan" <Bryan.Costello@sea.siemens.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:29:10 -0400 Subject: RE: 05/20/98 - The National Midnight Star #2039 Wednesday afternoon, I sat at my desk, and I read: > From: broon <broon@epix.net> > Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 17:51:06 -0400 > NOW THE BIG QUESTION !!! > I love every song they have ever played. And I mean every one !!! > (even Tai Chan) > However Tom Sawyer, Spirit and Closer live have become rather > redundant don't you think ? > In the words of the current WWF world heavyweight champion Stone Cold Steve Austin (whom I have met), "Oh, Hell Yeah!!!" Brother, I have felt that way for the last several tours. It is such a routine, they might as well phone in the end of the show...it is always: Spirit>Sawyer>YYZ. All of which are awesome songs, but lets mix it up a little guys! The Dead would do a different show every night. One could go see 6 Grateful Dead shows in a row without hearing the same song twice, and by the 7th night, you might hear 1 or 2 tunes from night #1. Metallica always does 4 or 5 different tunes from night to night, so it is possible to go & see 2 or 3 shows in a row and not hear the same exact thing each evening. Page/Plant do the same thing. Now I understand the constrictions of an enormous light & laser exhibition and showing films is not conducive to "mixing the set up" from night to night. Perhaps Rush is like a lot of bands that wish to perfect a setlist from night to night, and stick to what they feel works. And that is fine, I have no problem with that. But from tour to tour, C'mon! Rush has 16 incredible records to choose from, not a lot of bands can say that. A little variety would be embraced by everyone. Oh to hear "Anthem", "New World Man", "Bastille Day", or even "Time Stand Still" once again. I won't push my luck by requesting "Kid Gloves". And do not be so foolish as to read into this as Broon & I hate Rush or should stay home, as many of you inevitably will. We have been supporting Rush for many years, a little variety from tour to tour would be nice, (but not required.) Cool? Wouldn't it be nice if Rush put out a live CD set at the end of every tour as a souvenir for all of us, the diehards. Make it a complete show, beginning to end, warts & all, they can pick one stop that they felt was the best. Sell it only over the net, or limited edition-like. It would not sell a million copies, so do not press a million. It would most certainly sell 100,000 copies at least (wouldn't YOU buy one?), and it would thwart the evil bootleggers at the same time. Just a thought. Geddy & Alex....make it happen. We know ya read this. METALLICALLY yours in allegiance, Bryan C (giant Sandman mark/Washington Capitols friend.... and fan) ps.... Did anyone see Van Halen on Howard Stern's "E" show Monday & Tuesday night? Was that not scary? Eddie is braindamaged....no question. Anyone have extra tickets for the Metallica show here in Atlanta 6/26? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Todd VanGorden <tvangord@pittstate.edu> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:33:30 -0500 Subject: Re: 05/19/98 - Other "Al" guitars > > From: SWEDGE@webtv.net (SCOTT WEDGE) > > Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 22:37:35 -0400 > > Subject: Opening songs > > Jack mentioned in NMS 2032 that he liked to see opening songs at Rush > > concerts have a "big bang" sort of feel to them. He liked Dreamland, Big > > Money and SOR (I do too) - he mentioned a few choices of his own, > > Virtuality included. > > In keeping with the way things have been going, I think that they are going > > to open with Animate. > > now, how many guitars does the maniac (AL) have? > > Have or use on stage? On stage he has two PRS guitars in regular tuning and > one tuned for "Stick It Out". He also has the nylon for CTTH. If I remember, > he also had two Les Pauls with him. Doesn't he also own and use one of those Godin guitars, which I think is called an Acousticastor, because it has a piezo pickup in addition to the "regular" electric pickups. This gives (obviously) electric and acoustic flavors to the sound (and can be mixed or separated). I believe I remember seeing it live on the T4E tour. In the tour program there are photos from the "Half the World" video which show Alex playing both a PRS and the Godin. Also, the guitar for "Closer to the Heart" isn't a nylon string guitar live, is it? Isn't it a steel string Ovation? Todd ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Aiken <snowdog@west.net> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: re: moog?; guest female singer Moog: Surname: Andy. Goaltender for the Dallas Stars (or has he retired or been traded? I'm not much of a Dallas fan for any sport...) Guest female singer: Do Bob & Doug have a sister? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Scott Aiken snowdog@west.net | | http://www.west.net/~snowdog scotta@ksimaging.com | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lombardo" <lombardo@culinary.net> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:01:09 -0500 Subject: Morning ??? Just a possibility...in The Camera Eye, is it possible that Geddy said "morning Doug" as in Bob & Doug McKenzie? The reason I ask is that both Great White North & Moving Pictures came out the exact same year, 1981. They could have recorded both at the same recording studio & the guy who plays "Doug" (don't know if it was Moranis or the other guy) came in & said "Hello" & as a joke Geddy responded "Morning Doug". I'm not saying it doesn't sound like Gov or Guv but who (or what) is a Gov/Guv? Not flaming anyone who hears Gov/Guv, cuz I'm not even sure when I hear it...Geddy is somewhat away from the mike and what is said is difficult to discern...hence my curiosity within the context of the timeframe of the two albums. Any thoughts or clues................ david :-) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joseph Ornelas" <jornelas@electriciti.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:46:31 -0700 Subject: Re: Hello...Morning Gov >From: greg cormier <cormier_greg@isus.emc.com> >Date: Tue, 19 May 98 8:56:25 EDT >Subject: Hello...Morning Gov > >I just purchased the remastered 'Moving Pictures" CD and during "The >Camera Eye" at about the 9:00 mark you can clearly hear the words >"Hello.... Morning Gov". tHis was something that was not discernable on the >original released CD. Does anyone else hear this on the remastered CD ? No, but I hear it plain as day on my not remastered one -there, I'm hearing now. I must admit though, it sounds more like a guy clearing his throat and then saying "Mornin' Gov," but the gist is understood: they're British. MP is my oldest CD too, not just Rush, but out of all of them. Joseph Ornelas http://www.eciti.com/~jornelas "Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please" - Mark Twain ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Cangemi" <mikeyyz@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:14:13 PDT Subject: Opening Songs Even though nobody asked for it, here's my $.02 on opening songs... I agree with choices like SOR, Big Money, and Animate, but how about Dreamline? It started off the last tour with a bang, and pretty much set the pace for the whole show. I think Test for Echo or Driven would be cool choices, too. And of course, I can't forget 2112. It opened up the PW tour, I think (at least it does on a few of my PW boots), and what better song to open up a show with? On an entirely unrelated note, here's a Rush sighting which I don't think anyone's mentioned yet. During games at Yankee Stadium, each guy on the Yankees comes to bat to their own choice of music. Chuck Knoblauch comes up to Big Money. Anybody else hear this? Does anyone else know of other pro athletes who are Rush fans? Mike "Half the world hates what half the world does every day." "I listened to a lot of Rush in high school, so I never got laid." Les Claypool, Primus ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "N. JENSEN" <njensen@NMSU.Edu> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:37:48 -0600 (MDT) Subject: El Paso, TX '96 >Just wondering if anyone else saw anything similar. I wanted to make >note of the fact that nothing shakes those boys! I saw them at the El Paso '96 show. During Neil's drum solo, I had binoculars watching him (gives me chills each time I see the Rhythm Method). He dropped his right stick at a crucial point in the solo and his eyes got huge with a look of worry and I thought to myself, "He's gonna mess up". But in less than a second, his face went back to the serious look he always has, he grabbed another stick, and continuted the solo without any hesitation or noticeable break in the performance. His left arm never stopped playing. It happened so quick, I wasn't sure it really happened so I looked around the stage and sure enough, there was the lost drum stick at the base of his kit and it remained there for the rest of the show. He covered the mistake so well, that no one noticed. I've asked dozens of people that attended that show if they saw him drop the stick and not one of them noticed. Did anyone else see this? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Max MacPherson <mmacpher@zoo.uvm.edu> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 20:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: nms issue #2112 >From: "Kevin L. Kitchens" <peiprog@peiprog.com> >Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 15:00:01 -0500 >Subject: Issue #2112... > >I think that a call should go out and allow people to send in simple ONE >or TWO line comments about Rush, what they like, memories, etc. directed >TO THE BAND. > >Have these sent to the Rush-Mgr with the Subject of "Issue #2112 >message." > >Make this issue sort of like signing a yearbook or something. Funny, I was thinking on a practically similar line this after noon and was going to post the idea on this list. I think this would be a good idea to have a list of members saying in one line, what they like about rush, whether it be songs, lyrics, albums, tours, personal traits physically, personally, or musically. What I was thinking is that it could be a list of 2,112 non repetitious responses. They could all be sent in to some one willing to sort through them and send them back. To save space it would probably be good to simply have the list and not the full from:, Date:, subject: introductions that normally precede posts. Also maybe there could be issue 2112 pt.1, 2... if the list is too long for one mailing. Just my idea. "All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They all have their exits and entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts" Shakespeare - "As You Like It" Act II Scene VII ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Poomoble <Poomoble@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 21:57:54 EDT Subject: Do you smell smoke???? >Doh!! Perhaps a reading of Visions is in order. I bet Poo gets a lot of his >namesake for this one! :) I'm laughing my @ss off right now. I'm getting >visions (no pun intended) of Frodo and Gandalf and company journeying back >home trying to explain to Butterbur that Aragorn is the King. >Mark That's Pooh, not Poo. Thanks for you kind and thoughtfull responce, pal! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alex Smith" <bacchus@azstarnet.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 19:25:26 -0700 Subject: issue #2112 you know, i think rush-mgr already has decided what to do for issue 2112 and is planning it now.... thus i won't give any suggestions because i'm sure he knows what he's doing already. i hope its good! now, what will happen for issue 2113? a big let down probably.... maybe EVERY issue after 2112 should be special in some way or another :-) in cd player: rush-signals front line assembly-corroded disorder new order-substance dream theater-images and words pink floyd-animals Alex Smith bacchus@azstarnet.com http://www.azstarnet.com/~bacchus/rush/ <sig cut out for rush-mgr's sake> "Verbing weirds language." -Calvin ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott McDow <mcdow@ibm.net> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 22:34:49 -0400 Subject: most played live / kazoo! Hey! >I'm curious. >(perhaps this is in the FAQ's) >What song has been performed >live (in it's entirety) the most ? >-broon Just a guess but CTTH seems likely. >>I think it's a triggered "effect" although >>King Lerxst mouths it in concert. Who >>triggers it? Anybody? >> -me >No, Lerxt says it... he doesn't sing it... >He did the same thing on this tour as well...:) >-Mikey It's possible I got my facts mixed up (happens more often than I care to admit!) Any trigger experts out there to back me up? If not then just stick me in the corrner with a dunce cap on my head. <:^)> on another Mikey note An incredible discovery IMO! >on "In The End" and during the guitar solo >(at approx. 4:22 on the CD) It sounds like >the guitar that is bending the A a full step to >B is doubled by a Kazoo!!! REALLY!!! >lsiten to it... like RIGHT NOW... and tell >me... if that is the case You betcha. No doubt about it. Left channel. It's easier to catch if you balance all the way left. Definately a wind/humming sound not string. Great call. >I need to program my digital processor >(Digitech model 2112 [*grins*]) to make that >noise as well... any suggestions on how I can do >that? nope later, scoots ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott McDow <mcdow@ibm.net> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 22:52:37 -0400 Subject: lyrics in remastered fbn Hey! Can someone who owns a remastered copy of FBN tell me if these lyrics are included in the liner notes for the song FBN? (original introduction) Airport scurry flurry faces Parade of passers by People going many places With a smile or just a sigh Waiting waiting pass the time Another cigarette Get in line - gate thirty-nine The time is not here yet thanks in advance! later, scoots ---------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen melnyk <sdkm@cableregina.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 20:52:32 -0500 Subject: twisted beliefs > [ . . .Who cares what my political beliefs are? Who cares about political > crap in the NMS? >...And in case you haven't noticed, this is a moderated > digest. If I decide it doesn't belong in >a RUSH DIGEST, then I take it > out. Period. : rush-mgr ] right on ! buddist follower to the hotdog vender, "make me one with everthing" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Herrage" <cherrage@flash.net> Date: Wed, 20 May 98 22:17:35 PDT Subject: Tai Shan - A Wonderful Song! I've been reading TNMS for sometime now and never really thought about writing until I started noticing many people saying that they weren't crazy about "Tai Shan". I think this is a wonderful song and I can't understand how anyone wouldn't like this song!?! When I first heard this song, I felt that it was the best song for making you feel like you were experiencing everything that Neil was! Since I'm sure that Neil wrote this song about his experiences in the Orient, I felt like I was there with him. And in true Alex and Geddy form, the music complements the words. I always feel that Neil is trying to get a certain point(s) across in each song. I feel that if a musician/lyricist can get his point across and make you feel the way he wanted you to, then he had accomplished his goal. Does anyone else agree with me? I feel the words and music in this song work so beautifully together. I think if you don't like this song, you're missing the emotions, and visions Neil is trying to get across to you. Perhaps another listening is in order. Or maybe a visit to China would help! Close your eyes when you listen this time, and imagine for a moment you are seeing what the words are telling you Neil saw. Imagine how he felt! It was obviously an experience profound enough for him to write a song about it! I love all Rush songs and thoroughly enjoy reading TNMS postings. Its interesting to me to see all the different opinions and interpretations of the band and their music. HYF is full of songs with meaning. Even if my interpretations are different from everyone elses, TNMS is a great forum for getting a different perspective on a song. If you are not a Tai Shan fan, try listening with a different perspective. "No salutes for your surrender, nothing noble in your fate. Christ what have you done?" Chris Herrage cherrage@flash.net ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mikey" <mikey@lanset.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 21:40:27 -0700 Subject: Trivial Questions, Most Song Played Live, Kazoo? >From: broon <broon@epix.net> >Subject: In The Moooooood & a trivial question ? >I love every song they have ever played. And I mean every one !!! (even Tai >Chan) However Tom Sawyer, Spirit and Closer live have become rather >redundant don't you think ? I wonder if the band feels the same. What's wrong with Tai Chan? *L* Anyway... I would think after playing Closer to the Heart for over 20 years in every concert rhey've ever played does get a little old but you almost expect that song when you go see RUSH, and so do a lot of fans who go to the concerts and don't know all the osngs like we do...:) I think the Boys would like to keep as many of their fans happy with a diverse selection of song (Hey, take a look at this time around, they' added 2112 (INCLUDING DISCOVERY, and the ORACLE!!!), as well as Natural Science, although NS was missing a few parts... but that's okay...:) It was still a rocker... Had to be Closer to the Heart, no doubt about it >"Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> >>"Mikey" said: <> >>Okay... I need some info on this... I was working on "In The End" and >>During the guitar solo (at approx. 4:22 on the CD) It sounds like the >>guitar that is bending the A a full step to B is doubled by a Kazoo!!! >>REALLY!!! lsiten to it... like RIGHT NOW... and tell me >it's called "More distortion than a human being should be allowed to play >with without a license." run in stereo *LOL* Then do I hear OVERDRIVE through my tubes? *grins* >Scott McDow <mcdow@ibm.net> >on another Mikey note. An incredible discovery IMO! >>on "In The End" and during the guitar solo (at approx. 4:22 on the CD) It >>sounds like the guitar that is bending the A a full step to B is doubled >>by a Kazoo!!! REALLY!!! lsiten to it... like RIGHT NOW... and tell me... if >>that is the case >You betcha. No doubt about it. Left channel. It's easier to catch if you >balance all the way >left. Definately a wind/humming sound not string. Great call. Okay, so I'm not going crazy... I brought this up with a friend of mine, I poped the FBN CD the player and skipped to In The End, and sat there, and when it came through I'm all OK, listen carefully, what is that doubling the guitar? He listened for a moment then he exclaimed loudly, It's a KAZOO!!! And he went all off about how much Rush kicks ass for making a little insturment like a Kazoo actually usefull, That'd be a trip wouldn't it, The Boys playing In The End, and Ged comes out with a little kazoo during the solo... Definatley a picture perfect moment... Anyway, I went on to tell him about the 1/4" plywood that Neil used in YYZ, and he is beginning to wonder what else the Boy's have used... sounds like we're going tape by tape (I do that anyway cause I have all the albums in my car and I listen to them all about every 5 or 6 days or so) I just started over so I'll keep ya posted if I don't get into a wreck! *L* Peace Mikey - bytor@lanset.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Labyrinth/1669 The guns replace the plow, facades are tarnished now The principles have been betrayed The dreams's gone stale, but still, let hope prevail History's debt won't be repaid ---------------------------------------------------------- From: PipeDreems <PipeDreems@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 01:59:39 EDT Subject: Who will play? (The boys in the movies that is) I agree with Jeff Daniels as Alex, and Tom Hanks as Neil. And now for the classic.....(drum rolls only- no flames!) The part of Geddy Lee will be played by Cher. (You are either laughing hysterically or firing up the flame thrower). Before you react, consider this, if Sonny Bono were still around, he could play Neil as a 63 year old... Respectfully submitted. Tommy Boy "I'm not one to go pointing my finger" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian T. Peterson" <brianp@mcn.net> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 01:31:30 -0600 Subject: personalized plates I need some advice. I would like to somehow put "Dreamline" on my license plates. The maximum is 7 letters but Dreamline is 9 letters. DAMNIT!!! What would be a good way to abbreviate Dreamline into 7 letters? Please e-mail me privately. If any of you have some cool other Rush license plate ideas as well, please e-mail those with the Dreamline suggestion. Thanks!! Brian "We travel in the dark of the new moon" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael D Denney" <archangel@premiernet.net> Date: Thu, 21 May 98 02:45:07 PDT Subject: out-takes This may seem to be back-tracking, but... 1-I notice in 'Freewill' that Geddy says "if you choose not to decide you still have made a choice" but the lyric sheet inside the album clearly say "you cannot have made a choice". Did the band do some inter- views or something that influenced them to change the song at some point? 2-I received a 15-question quiz from a guy nicknamed 'flame' where he asked me to name the first Rush al- bum where Geddy sang his own backup vocals. I responded >>Rush<< since I thought I heard Geddy doing this on a couple of songs on their debut effort, but 'flame' said it was on 'Presto'. I wondered if any- one knew for sure? Thanks, though, 'flame'--your quiz was informative. 3-I was wondering if anyone had experimented with stereo systems and come up with the optimum set- up for playing Rush albums, CDs, or cassettes? "A spirit with a vision is a dream with a mission" Michael Denney archangel@premiernet.net ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian T. Peterson" <brianp@mcn.net> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 03:07:26 -0600 Subject: The Billings Metrapark Hello! Every now and then, I feel the need to whine and bitch and complain about our beloved Billings Metrapark. As I've mentioned time and time again, the Billings Metrapark sucks royal ass when it comes to concerts. I say this because 98% of the concerts are Country. Metrapark holds around 11,000 people and is located out here in Billings, Montana. Garth Brooks will be coming here sometime in the summer. I HATE country music, but I will on rare occasions tolerate some of Garth's older stuff. But, you won't catch me dead listening to his newer albums! A few days ago, the very front page of the Billings Gazzette(our main newspaper) read something like: "GARTH BROOKS SELLS OUT 4 CONCERTS AT METRA!" For much of the population, this is about the most exciting event to occur in the Montana/Wyoming region in years. Because of the extremely high demand, and to keep things fair, Garth Brooks himself organized some stupid ass raffle system for purchasing concert tickets. I got the joy of seeing nearly everyone in the population prancing around with a bright pink band around their wrist to signify that they had received a "raffle number." So, four shows have been booked, four shows have been sold out. What exactly is the deal with this guy? I mean, for the most part, the man doesn't even write his own songs. The Billings media has made damn sure to point out over and over again that Garth has been declared by some organization, "music entertainer of the year." How does someone earn this title exactly? Much of it comes down to publicity. Commericalized! This whole situation brought to light one of the many reasons why I love Rush so much. I could go into some philosophical speech, but I think all of you know what I am trying to get at. The following question summarizes it: How many Garth Brooks "TV specials" have been on the past few years? I think it's in the quadrillions now. Go Garth!!! Screw that. GO GEDDY!!! Brian "We travel in the dark of the new moon" "Chicks dig me, cause I rarely wear underwear and when I do it's something unusual." - Bill Murray, "Stripes" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: greg cormier <cormier_greg@isus.emc.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 98 7:06:49 EDT Subject: A Show Of fans Does anyone know the status on the fanzine "A show of fans" ? Are they still putting out issues or are they officialy out of business ? I tried E-mailing them but got no response. Any info would be greatly appreciated. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric R Martin <quicklad@clark.net> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:29:12 -0400 Subject: Limelight on the charts I recall looking at a listing of the rock charts sometime in early '83 and seeing New World Man at the top. Numero Uno. Of course this was the rock, and not the general chart. As for Limelight, Tom Sawyer or Subdivisions not charting higher than Take Off Aren't the charts based on singles sold. I understand the songs respective chart positions if that's the case. I don't think the Great White North sold nearly as many albums as Moving Pictures or Signals. Another way to look at the whole deal is that I still hear Tom Sawyer & Limelight on the radio (to my chagrin- I'd rather hear Driven or Carve Away The Stone now) and not Take Off. Does Billboard have a website w/ archives? Eric ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Brett Gentzel <brett.gentzel@seer.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:02:15 -0400 Subject: Song played the most live... "broon" wrote-- >I'm curious. >(perhaps this is in the FAQ's) >What song has been performed live (in it's entirety) the most ? > >Just wondering, and I have a bet on it. > >broon It's gotta be Closer to the Heart, right? Every tour since AFTK... brett ----------------------------------------------------------
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