The National Midnight Star #2035

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@yyz.com Subject: 05/18/98 - The National Midnight Star #2035
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Issue 2112 emotional Rush overdue Rush and Dream Theater Issue 2112 should NOT be about Selena in any way Band info searches Geds Vital Basses Re: Chilling moments....... 05/15/98 - The National Midnight Star #2033 Instant Rush Chick (just add water) re: in the mood live talkin' technical :o #2112, etc. in the mood... Re: 05/14/98 - The National Midnight Star #2032 Kid Gloves Re: 05/15/98 - The National Midnight Star #2033 Re: A postcard from Neil The Man of the Match Awards warm-up acts Re: ged and bass In the Mood live Subdivisions, Fan Enthusiasm, Opening Songs Naked man and other ramblings ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager) Date: Mon May 18 10:36:02 PDT 1998 Subject: Administrivia If you missed the Pop-Up video show this past weekend, VH1 is reairing the episode THIS Thursday, May 21st at 11:30pm EDT. I've also put the video up as an RV file on the NMS home page. I would've added "O Canada" as well but forgot to upload it this morning! In other web news, the trader is back up and working, and look for lots of changes in the coming weeks! - rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Grand Designs <gdesigns@idt.net> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 15:06:23 -0700 Subject: yet another idea for issue #2112 How about issue #2112 containing the following: 1. a short paragraph from the rush-mgr(s) recognizing that _it is_ issue #2112. 2. the main part of the newsletter can list the names of all people currently subscribed, lined up in 2 (or even 3) vertical columns, kind of like a guestbook. A similiar idea was mentioned, using everyones e-mail addresses instead. But that is just a gold mine for spammers. With real names (or even "screen/Internet names") there's nothing to worry about. This may require someone to act as collector of the names to be listed... everyone who wanted their names to be listed on issue #2112 would simply e-mail it to the chosen collector. The collected names can then be sent, via e-mail, to the rush-mgr(s). Since the rush-mgr(s) have their hands full with sending out normal issues of TNMS, I'd be glad to act as collector of the names of those who wanted to be listed on issue #2112. My current job allows sufficient time. What do you guys think? Against the run of the mill Static as it seems We break the surface tension With our wild, kinetic dreams Visit the Grand Designs Rush Site http://members.xoom.com/gdesigns/ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Dittrich <rdittrich@conceptserv.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 14:15:45 -0500 Subject: RE: T4E >From: "Ball, Bill" <Bill.Ball@hermann.com> >Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 15:07:01 -0500 >Subject: T4E > [snip] >Don't really know what the explanation is. I was certainly not one of >the people who "sat" back and watched. I yelled every word to each >song and stood the entire show. Funny. This is exactly the kind of thing that irritates me most at Rush shows: people who scream every word, thus (most of the time) murdering the melody and (even worse) drowning out Geddy. These same people insist on standing the whole time, blocking the view of the fans behind them. I've taken to flicking live cigarette butts at these people, in the spirit of their own idea of courtesy. > The people in front and in back of me >didn't move the entire show. I sat with a group of friends that made >as much noise as possible. The people around you were probably fighting to keep from throttling you. > Sadly we could see down about 10 rows and >see everybody sitting. Did it ever occur to you that some people sit for live theater? > I don't have any gripes with sitting for the >show. Everybody enjoys concerts and shows in there own way. But I >would have loved to have moved down 10 rows closer and switched with >the people that were sitting and talking with each other instead of >being "in tune" with the show. As if those that bellow the words loudly are somehow more "in tune" with a virtuoso performance. This is rich. Rob Dittrich ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "TOM GARRETT" <tgarrett@tinet.ie> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 18:42:53 +0100 Subject: GAIA i could be wrong, but gaia might be the supposition that all things in the cosmos are interrelated, connected together in some type of cosmic masterplan. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rod Breton"<rod_breton@ccmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:15:07 -0800 Subject: Owe us? "Rush Mgr: Would it be possible to get the guys to help us on this one? I really think they owe us something here..." What do they owe us? This is such patent Bulls**t it's not even funny. The band does not OWE us anything,and it is the height of arrogance and selfishness to say that they do. Better that you just enjoy the music and keep your opinions to yourself,it is crap like this that really piss off people like Rush and sour them on anything having to do with fan interaction. Because you bought some records and tickets and so forth they OWE you their time? What a load of crap! You paid them for entertainment, they entertained you...What more is there to this transaction? Not a goddamn thing! Rod ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Petrimoulx & Moira O'Toole" <pootiemo@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:28:37 -0700 Subject: Re: 05/13/98 - The National Midnight Star #2031 > From: jworthen@matrixx.com (Jody Worthen) > Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 09:02:12 -0700 > Subject: Issue 2112 > > After reading post after post of suggestions for issue #2112 > it appears that the only answer has escaped most of us: > > Print the *entire* story/lyrics from the 2112 LP album cover. > Many of the owners of the CD have never seen it! > > Stealth mode ON. YES! YES! YES! I have heard other people talk about it but I only have the cd! Please! Moira [ Um, the story & lyrics are both on the web page, under the 2112 album. : rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Griswold <epoch7@javanet.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 15:31:01 -0400 Subject: Lexrst? Call me country bumpkin, but what is the signifigance of the pseudonyms Dirk, Pratt, and Lerxst? Im an idiot, make me not stupid. :) "Hot Dogs and Kool Aid for all my men!" -Me ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "sandra sweets" <swt_sandra@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:32:49 PDT Subject: Issue 2112 Hey everybody! I don't usually post but do follow all the posts in this great e-mail community. Something occurred to me. All you have been talking about the issue 2112 and getting the boys to write to it, and the gracious rush-mgr keeps repeating that she has no connections to make this happen. Rush-mgr, I understand what you are saying! My question is this, who is this guy Rob someone who says he knows them so well. HEY ROB! Get busy boy! Go meet Alex and share a few donuts and let him in on what is going on here. With all your connections surely you can snag us a few words from him! I mean, these good guys gave you an award, EARN IT! Can't be that hard! Yeah, I'd love to see a post, a REAL post from them. Rob, you are the only one who knows these guys personally from what I gather from your posts. Let's see if you can do it! Thanks for listening! Sandra And BIll, who IS Nancy? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Horta <phorta@i-2000.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 15:29:39 -0400 Subject: emotional Rush My sympothies to you Dirk on losing your father.I think Tears is a very emotional song and also the lyrics to Afterimage are about losing a friend or someone special to you. Some other emotional songs: Losing It Mission Tai Shan Available Light Nobody's Hero Bravado I hope you will be able cope with your fathers passing and remember that time heals pain. Sincerely, Al ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Horta <phorta@i-2000.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 15:54:14 -0400 Subject: overdue Rush and Dream Theater These are some Rush releases that I think are way overdue: 1-Live Album(pending) 2-CD-Rom(pending) 3-Book (what happened to that Mystic Rhythms book that was supposed to come out) 4-Another video compilation(I think this one should have the band talking about their history ala Kiss X-treme Closeup or the Black Sabbath Story) 5-Live Video 6-The Re-releases of their out of print videos(Exit,Camera Eye,Grace) And of course their New Album(Have to wait a while for that one though) I saw Dream Theater last Thursday(May 7) at the Birch Hill nightclub in Old Bridge,NJ.Excellent show.While they were playing the intro to Trial Of Tears John Petrucci played some bars of Xanadu(the volume swells in the beginning of the song).I had to smile.Did anyone else who went catch that?While I was entering the club I had my Roll The Bones shirt on(the one with the skull head popping out of the box)and I heard someone say "Roll The Bones cool"and I looked up and it was 2 guys waiting to get in.I said "Thanks" and they said something like "Great tour"I thought that was pretty cool.It just got me thinking of all the cool Rush fans I've met over the years.Doesn't it seem like when you go see a Rush concert it's like being there with 10,000 of your friends. Until Later, Al ---------------------------------------------------------- From: BRAVADO 69 <BRAVADO69@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 16:02:16 EDT Subject: Issue 2112 should NOT be about Selena in any way I must comment on this one. Let me state at the top that I am not trying to be heartless or insensitive. I hope that comes through here. Selena died a year ago. It is time to move on. It was terribly sad, but Selena has nothing to do with Rush. She was never a topic of discussion prior to her death. Rush has always gone to great lengths to keep their private lives private. When she died, many of us sent messages of sympothy or contributions and that was very nice and very appropriate, but that is where it should stop. Selena was not in the public eye. She was not a part of the band and was not a part of our discussions. There is no reason why we should continue to act as though we were truly affected (note the difference between affected and upset) by her death. It is insulting to her family to act as though we are truly grieving for her a year later. We all feel badly for Neil but let's leave it at that and stop pretending that she touched our lives in any way. That's not right and very offensive to Neil and his family. I am sure he appreciates the outpouring of sympathy, and I am equally sure he would be very offended to see fans act as though we are affected by her death because we all know that we are not. We are not Neil's friends. We don't hang out with him. We don't know his family. We have not been invited into his private life. Face it: we are fans and that's all, not his friends! Issue 2112 is a celebration of several years of this digest and it should be special and reflect the band that we have been such big fans of, and has played such a big role in our lives. These guys don't read the NMS. A tribute to Selena doesn't mean anything to them. Neil wouldn't even see it. So who are we doing it for? Us? Why? No one here ever met her or spoken to her. No one here had their lives altered or affected by her death in any way. No one knew who she was before she died. It was a terrible tragedy, but it is a terrible tragedy to the 1,000+ of young people who die every day. To us, Selena is no different than anyone on the news because she never touched our lives. Neil never let her be in the public eye. Making issue 2112 about Selena is self-serving and acting self-important. Stop pretending that she played a bigger role in OUR lives than she did, and that Neil is your buddy or your pal and would be grateful and impressed by this tribute. He's not gonna know and he wouldn't be if he did. This digest is about us and the band and issue 2112 should reflect that. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: mjh@mail.utexas.edu (Michael Hannaman) Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 16:09:24 -0400 Subject: Band info searches Let me first say that I don't want this to encourage pestering the band members in any way, shape, or form, as it's not only illegal but it's incredibly disrespectful. I just wanted to point out, though, that it's not all that hard these days, with the enormous variety of search engines and people finders out there. Doing some simple name searches under Weinrib, Peart, and Zivojinovic turned up some pretty surprisingly plausible info. Just for example, I found the address and phone number of both someone with the last name Peart and also the name Jackie Taylor both living on the same street in St. Catharines, ON. No, I'm not going to call them, and don't write me about how you can get this info, but I just thought it was interesting and really kinda spooky how easy it is to find this stuff, even 'unlisted' stuff, nowadays with just the slightest bit of effort. Michael Michael Hannaman mjh@mail.utexas.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: j_mevorah@hwawashington.com (Jack Mevorah) Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 16:17:17 -0400 Subject: Geds Vital Basses This is an equipment post ... mostly basses! So beware! In issue 2032 Nick Bruels <nickb@teleport.com> posts: > > From: j_mevorah@hwawashington.com (Jack Mevorah) > > Subject: Vital Bass > > > > In issue 2028 Scott McDow <mcdow@ibm.net> queried: > > > > > In Vital Signs what type of bass(es) does Ged > > > play in this tune? > > It's his Jazz ... he used it live too. The rest is the Mini-Moog > > through the Yamaha 1010 delay (and Alex & Neil, of course). > What the?!? You mean you think the bass line was recorded > with the Mini-Moog? I don't even think there's any synth > parts that were from the Mini-Moog at all, let alone a bass > line. I didn't mean to mislead ... I neither think nor intended to imply that the bass line was accomplished with the Mini-Moog (nor did I mean to imply that Alex or Neil played bass during the recording of that tune). The inclusion of the Mini and Alex and Neil was merely a brief & light-hearted elaboration on the rest of the instrumentation used. As far as the Mini-Moog is concerned; if I remember correctly, the entire synth part was accomplished with the Mini, Roland Digital Sequencer, and Yamaha E1010 delay. Though it could have been the OB-1, cause he used to have that hooked to an Oberheim sequencer and it was typically used for weird sounds and sequenced parts, but for some reason I remember reading that it was the Mini set-up ... ah well, whatever. > > The Steinberger didn't make its appearance til the end of the > > Signals tour. OK! > Correct, my previous claim that Geddy didn't play one "until GUP" > stands corrected, though GUP was the first (and only) album he > recorded with one. You are CORRECT, sir! Basses, basses. I love basses. Shall we get carried away? Sure: > 4002 gets mentioned as a studio bass, but I don't recall > mention of the 3001. Doh! From the AFTK tourbook > (thanks again to the rush-mgr!): "Other basses include a > Rickenbacker model 3001 and a customized Fender Precision with > a treble pickup added and wired in stereo and cut down to tear > drop shape." I'd wager he's playing the 3001 in that photo... >... and I would think you're right about that being the 3001 - I don't believe the 4002 was issued until 1980 or so -- I'll have to look at the photo when I get home, but you'll be able to tell for sure if you check the number of control knobs on that bass. The 4002 has 4 (like the 4001) but the 3001 only has 3 - and if its not too dark a picture, the 4002 has 2 pickups and the 3001 just one.. Ged sed: "I have a 4002, which has low-impedence pickups and a beautiful ebony fingerboard. It has Schaller tuning pegs on it, and I've had a Badass bridge installed. I sometimes use the 4002 in the studio. I also have a 3001, which has a single low-impedence pickup and a thick, heavy body. It's got a really meaty sound. I haven't found too much use for it in recording, and I don't use it live, but at home I use it a lot for writing and jamming." Guitar Player, June 1980 As I recall - the basses go something like this: Conora Bass (pre-Rush), Hagstrom Bass, '69 Fender Precision (c.1978 cut-down to tear drop and run stereo), Rickenbacker 4001 (mono/stereo - double pickup), Rickenbacker 3001 (mono - single humbucking pickup), Rickenbacker 4080/12 (4001 and 480 12-string guitar - black), Rickenbacker 4002 (mono/xlr - 2 humbucking pickups), Rickenbacker 4080 (4001 and 480 6-string guitar - white) '72 Fender Jazz (purchased in 1979-'80 for $200.00 from a pawn shop), among the many J's he has is one fitted with a Hip-Shot for detuning the E to D. Steinberger L2, Wal 4 string (2 - black & red), Wal 5 string and somewhere in there is a Jeff Berlin Paladium bass ... but he can't recall having used it either live or recording. Well. There it is. jack ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Robinson <dannyr@traveller.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 15:48:05 -0500 Subject: Re: Chilling moments....... One of the songs that gives me those inspirational, spine tingling chills is "The Pass"......during the last FIVE notes of the guitar solo.....right before Geddy starts in on 'No hero in your tragedy.' Man, it's like five seconds of immortality. It just makes me wanna drive fast and go bowling. You know, the same effect that Marisa Tomei has on you. Oh yeah, I also have an UNOPENED copy of 'Hold Your Fire' on vinyl if anyone wants it. :) It's not autographed or anything......but you can see that red cover from miles away. It's truely one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen. You know, like Marisa Tomei. -Danny ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phelan" <eric@dbsa.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 16:53:58 -0400 Subject: Re: 05/15/98 - The National Midnight Star #2033 >From: bigrushfan@juno.com (Lyle A James) >Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 14:52:28 -0400 >Subject: In The Mood live > >Well, I FINALLY picked up a copy of ASOH on VHS. During the In The Mood >part, I noticed that they were saying something other than the >traditional "Hey baby..." It seemed to be more of a "Hey <some name>." >Does anyone know exactly what they said? > > [ Isn't it "cookie" or "mookie" or something? : rush-mgr ] I always thought it was "Hey Ellie" or something like that...Elley... Oh just great..now i have to go watch it again :) wait..I say that like its a bad thing :) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Babybean2 <Babybean2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 16:55:32 EDT Subject: Instant Rush Chick (just add water) Stuart writes: <<<Tom - I ain't no chick, but can give you some advice... Most guys should just be happy that a woman is with them. Don't expect her to like RUSH...it won't happen. >...What am I saying!!!!!!!!??? Give her the flick. ;->>>>> How to Create a Rush Chick: 1) Take her on a long road trip 2) Forget to bring any music...oh wait! You DO have these RUSH CDs <wink>! 3) Play Hemisperes...starts out so pretty...kinda eases her into the groove. 4) Point out that Geddy is not only singing and playing bass...but is playing keyboards as well! Have her marvel at his mastery. 5) Point out Neil's unusual and complex technigues and time signatures....and how he makes it seem so effortless. 6) Show her a picture of Alex Lifeson! LOL <just kidding> 7) Next play A Farewell to Kings...and then on to all others. 8) Have her read the lyrics as you drive. 9) When you arrive at your destination, make wild passionate love to her <ok...this is not necessary, but it would be fun!> 10) You now have your very own "Rush Chick". ENJOY! Hey...it worked with me! Ellen <-----reformed :o) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Dolinger <j-dolinger@nwu.edu> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 15:51:42 -0500 Subject: re: in the mood live >Well, I FINALLY picked up a copy of ASOH on VHS. During the In The Mood >part, I noticed that they were saying something other than the >traditional "Hey baby..." It seemed to be more of a "Hey <some name>." >Does anyone know exactly what they said? > > [ Isn't it "cookie" or "mookie" or something? : rush-mgr ] I think it could be on ESL where they are saying hey cookie. On ASOH, it always sounded to me like they were saying "Hey Allie" Who knows? _____________________________________ Jason Dolinger Northwestern University Computing and Information Systems '00 (847)332-4796, j-dolinger@nwu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Mueller <krynndm@execpc.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 15:03:59 Subject: talkin' technical :o Hey team, I love these sorts of posts! I don't understand 96% of it - other than the letters = notes or keys or sumpin' - but no one on the other 5 music MLs I read even discusses the composition of songs. This is just neat to see, like the excerpt about Neil's drumming and time sigs. Thanks! >orchestrated song. What's wrong with "Time and Motion?" [Hang on it's long and it's got some technical stuff in it...:)] Granted, TCE is a killer song... Granted at least 95% of Rush songs kick all ass, but I have a problem with "Time and Motion" Don't get me wrong, T4E is a great album, but I've got a problem with the chord structures that Alex uses during the verses almost make me cringe... (bear with me we're gonna get techincal now) I don't have a problem with the first set of chords that he appreggios (Dm11 [X530XX], and C#b5 [X430XX]) but the second ones at the lines "Fill them up with precious cargo" he uses these sickening intervals, and it just sounds horrid (Fm9 [X860XX] and Fm9/E [X760XX] just make my stomach turn, whenever I play it I can hear it, and whenever I've got the CD in, I can hear it too, but it's burried inthe mix so it's not that bay... just the fact that he's using a minor 2nd in a ringing appreggio makes it all the more worse... and the solo... personally, I detest the solo... It just isn't pleasing to my ears... that's all... Tom Mueller<krynndm@execpc.com> Milwaukee, WI "Christopher Robbin decided on a diabolical plan to kill Pooh" Crow T. Robot, 'The Deadly Bees' ---------------------------------------------------------- From: nevik@umich.edu (Kevin M. Corr) Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 17:05:27 -0400 Subject: #2112, etc. A blank issue as a moment of silence for Neil's daughter... I'm all for it. For all those folks who are still hoping and praying one of the boys will post to TNMS -- it just ain't gonna happen. Although it is too bad that they don't have a rapport like, say, Dream Theater and their fans on the "Ytse-jam" (I'm not on that mailing list, mind you). DT even mentions them in the liner notes for _A Change of Seasons_. For some insight into what RUSH thinks of fandom and the 'Net, see Limelight or Virtuality. To the /2ush fanatic who made the connection between The Camera Eye and the scene in Superman -- bravo. Stuff like that is one of the main things that makes this list worthwhile. Little things we can point out to each other, so that already great songs suddenly become even better. Now, if somebody can just figure out what the frag is being mumbled in the middle of Alien Shore... ;) And to the fellow who was wondering about the music videos, there's a tape that's a companion to CHRONICLES. It has the videos for Closer to the Heart, The Trees, Red Barchetta, Limelight, Subdivisions, Distant Early Warning, The Big Money, Time Stand Still, & Lock and Key (I might have forgotten one). IMHO, you can do without it, because the videos are all pretty cheesy. /2ush listening assigment: take a moment to appreciate how much better the live version of La Villa Strangiato (on E...SL) is than the studio version. Particularly "A Lerxst in Wonderland." Anyone disagree?? /\/ e v i k "You see black and white And I see Red (Wings) -- Not (St Louis) Blue(s)!" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Ware" <Daniel.Ware@enmu.edu> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 15:30:40 -0600 Subject: in the mood... Hey gang.... rush-mgr said, concerning In The Mood live: >>>>> [ Isn't it "cookie" or "mookie" or something? : rush-mgr ] I think it's both "hey cookie" and "hey pookie" (it's a quarter to eight).>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I always thought it was Cookie, and then Boobie. Seriously, I did... Have a great weekend all!!Wish I still got a Summer break... Cheers from New Mexico.. Dan ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "David M. Fornalsky" <cygnus@mcs.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 16:40:06 -0500 Subject: Re: 05/14/98 - The National Midnight Star #2032 >>How many others have "rush sucks" written somewhere in their yearbook.<< Ahhh! Yep. They could smell a Rush fan a mile away. I've got a few of those in my yearbook....Class of '87 FWIW. - Dave cygnus@mcs.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Costello, Bryan" <Bryan.Costello@sea.siemens.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 17:48:16 -0400 Subject: Kid Gloves Hey Y'all! Long time contributor, first time reader, uh, I mean....other way around. A few notes I felt compelled to contribute. The Best Guitar album?..... no question, P/G. It was produced by Peter Henderson of Supertramp fame, and at a point in their career where they were truly indulging in over the top keyboard production & all, it was a breath of fresh air. Of course, it did little to recapture the huge legions of fans that got on board for MP, and promptly got off at Signals. For "New World Man" & "Subdivisions" weren't as cool as "Tom Sawyer" & "Spirit of the Radio" (how could they be? The radio didn't play them as much....right?). But Mr. Henderson knew a good thing when he heard it (Alex), and here it is 14 years later, be thankful that we have "Grace Under Pressure". I saw that tour in Wichita, KS, where I was going to college. It was the best time I have EVER seen them. Gary Moore warmed up for them, he was killer, too. So for Guitar albums....It is "Grace under Pressure", which also contains their most overlooked/awesome song, "Kid Gloves". If ANYONE has a live version of this on a bootleg CD, please rsvp. "Kid Gloves" should have been a hit single! "Kid Gloves should be playing on every FM station regular rotation today, as "Sawyer" & "Spirit" do. The fact that it isn't shows you that the folks at Mercury couldn't put the old "Peacepipe" down long enough to promote this band properly. "Kid Gloves" needs to be brought back on the next tour! (emphasis added) Yours in Allegiance, Bryan C giant Sandman mark P.S. Does anyone know if a similar forum to this exists for the only other band that matters...METALLICA? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Cygnus X-1 <cygnusx_1@mpinet.net> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 18:24:09 -0700 Subject: Re: 05/15/98 - The National Midnight Star #2033 >Oh (again), no ending song stinks except You Bet Your Life. >And I agree with the poster who said that "Face Up" is the quintessential >throwaway song. RTB is bar far the weakest album as a whole in the entire >Rush catalog. There are 3-4 not so great songs on it. Although it was a >great tour. I miss the bunny's. I loved those songs! You have to love any song with "be-bop or a one drop or a hip hop light pop metalist" in it, it just sounds really cool. I also really liked the play on words they had in that song, they Neil (this is my interpretation anyway, maybe I'm dead wrong) was being very literal in saying you bet your life, in everything you do you have to bet your life to one degree or another. As far as Face Up goes, I can't really say much for it except that I like the upbeat speed of the song, it has a lot of good riffs and drum fills, I like the overall drum beat of the song (I'm a drummer after all, who better to listen to than Neil Peart?) and in general I think it just kicks some ass. I will give you that RTB seems to be their weakest album, but seeing how much I like that album I don't think that it was very weak at all. On a personal note, I'm new to TNMS and I'd just like to say...cool! =) Cygnus X-1 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick Bruels <nickb@teleport.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 16:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: A postcard from Neil > From: Paul Stone <pas@MNSi.Net> > Subject: A postcard from Neil > > It's all well and good to show off your postcards from Neil. Great stuff. Yes it was quite cool, thanks to whomever it was (sorry, I forget) for going to the trouble! > But I find it interesting that the sender took the time to blank out his > address on the scan. Perhaps you know how Neil feels and why he no longer > takes the time to write to all the people who get a hold of his address. Neil didn't give out his home address to a fan list. > Heaven forbid if a bunch of people got a hold of your address. Indeed. I blank out the address in the photo of my home linked from my html files (read: "on my website"). What's your point? Nick ---------------------------------------------------------- From: grs2 <grs2@ukc.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 00:24:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: The Man of the Match Awards Dear All, Thanks once again for all of the debate (both positive and negative) regarding the D'oh Awards. I feel that the time is now right (and the alcohol content in my blood is now high enough) to write the sequel - the Man of the Match Awards. Once again, I refer back to an interview with the Gedster, where he said that on many occasions they've had one song on an album which has pretty-much summed up that album in its entirety. My interest here is NOT in that particular song. Rather, it is in the song which, though not THE song of the album, is defintitely a killer song off of that particular album. It seems to me like there is always one such song, in the same way that there is always a song of the album and a D'oh song (not everyone would agree with this theory, of course). However, with this in mind, I would like to present my take on the Man of the Match Awards, for Best Song in a Supporting Role (I've also included the song of the album in this list, under the abbreviation: SOTA) Album: Rush Song: Working Man SOTA: Finding My Way FMW most definitely sums up the whole mood of the album - it's a killer lead-off track and it epitomises everything we'll see later on. However, we all know that WM is the money. Completely. No question. Hence the award. Album: Fly By Night Song: Anthem SOTA: Fly By Night One trend we'll see here is that the SOTA is quite often (predictably) the song from which the album title is taken. In this case, Anthem far outshines FBN in terms of musical prowess, but the latter scores points just for being so goddamn catchy. Album: Caress of Steel Song: Lakeside Park SOTA: Bastille Day Lakeside Park is so evocative (Geddy may cringe about it these days, but it's definitely a early ancestor to Time Stand Still, emotionally speaking). Musically, it falls short of BD, but still, the feeling's there. Album: 2112 Song: Something For Nothing SOTA: 2112 No surprises for guessing the SOTA on this one, and it'll be a repeated trend for the next couple of discs. SFN gets the award for being just too plain ballsy and managing to shake off the tear-worthy atmosphere left behind by Tears. Album: A Farewell to Kings Song: A Farewell to Kings SOTA: Closer to the Heart A bit of a turn-around, this one. CTTH was the SOTA simply in terms of it's classic status, but AFTK is by far the unsung hero on this one, heralding everything that would be great about Rush albums for the next 4 years or so. Album: Hemispheres Song: The Trees SOTA: Hemispheres The concept song wins the SOTA, but the contest for MOTM was a close-run thing between The Trees and La Villa. The Trees clinches it simply for being extremely hard-rocking and having an intro which would be aped by Catherine Wheel on their current single, Broken Nose. Album: Permanent Waves Song: Freewill SOTA: The Spirit of Radio Second tracks get the MOTM award on more than one occasion, but none more deservingly than Freewill, which gets it for Geddy's kickass bass, and that impossibly high vocal in the last verse. Album: Moving Pictures Song: Limelight SOTA: Tom Sawyer Once again, SOTA goes to the classic, but Limelight is simply the ultimate early-80's Rush song. Hooky Stop-start time signatures, underlayered synths, an intelligent topic for discussion and kickass riffs from Alex. Oh, and let's not forget Neil's killer drum-workout at the end. Album: Signals Song: The Analog Kid SOTA: Subdivisions Another second track for TAK, once again well-deserved for such a moving synth-layered chorus in-between the up-tempo hard rock - the resurrection of TAK in the CP tour showed that it could still hold it's own. Album: Grace Under Pressure Song: Between the Wheels SOTA: Distant Early Warning No question about the SOTA, as I've heard Ged quoted as naming DEW in that capacity. Why BTW? Well, pure and simple it's a question of guitar solo, Al's being the best he's ever done, and will ever do. Hence BTW scoring over the more obvious choice of Red Sector A. Album: Power Windows Song: Marathon SOTA: The Big Money The SOTA seems to be more and more frequently the first track on the album, but MOTM duties go to Marathon on this one, simply for having such an uplifting message, conveyed through a chorus that soars from one key to the next as the song fades away. Album: Hold Your Fire Song: Force Ten SOTA: Time Stand Still TSS gets the SOTA award for being the most popular single, defining HYF for a lot of people. However, Force Ten stands out as a superb piece of focused tension, not least worthy for the intensely short amount of time in which it was put together by the boyz. Album: Presto Song: The Pass SOTA: Show Don't Tell SDT was always the major vehicle for Rush's 'new sound' on Presto, what with the jazz-rock feel to it, Alex's acoustics, Neil's more-laid-back drumming and the best damn solo Geddy's ever done. The Pass wins MOTM for being able to shove all that musicality aside and just be emotional - no wonder Geddy introduced it as one of their faves on the RTB tour. Album: Roll The Bones Song: Dreamline SOTA: Roll The Bones Dreamline is simply THE killer track on RTB. RTB, the song, may be catchy as all hell, and also still tends to get heavy airplay on rock radio stations in the USA, but Dreamline will always be the defining song on that album for me. Album: Counterparts Song: Between Sun & Moon SOTA: Animate Animate DID define CP. No question, but BS&M was a step in a new direction which paid off in spades, not least in the most hook-laden Rush-song in a decade. BS&M was proof that a song could be poppy, catchy, and most importantly intensely musical. If only the Spice Girls had heard it... Album: Test For Echo Song: Virtuality SOTA: Test For Echo Lastly, T4E is quite obviously the quintessential song on that album. However, Virtuality outshone everything else on T4E (almost eclipsing the title track) simply in terms of its uncompromising hard-rock riffs, intense drumming, frenetic bass-work and sexy (yes, sexy) vocals. And that's it. Hopefully that should dispell a few rumours that I'm a die-hard Rush-hater, and who knows? Maybe it'll even spark a bit more debate about the music of Rush. After all, that's what this list is for, and that's why I've posted both the D'oh Awards and the Man of the Match Awards. Testing 4 Echoes, Greg Sanderson P.S. Is that new Garbage album the bomb, or WHAT?!?!?!? :) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Costello, Bryan" <Bryan.Costello@sea.siemens.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 19:29:18 -0400 Subject: warm-up acts I got a hold of NMS #2, to see who flamed who from issue #1, and a discussion broke out on warm-up bands. For what it is worth, here are a list of the bands that were with Rush everytime they came to Atlanta....or when I saw them in the Midwest when I was in college! March 1977-The Omni. They warmed up for Blue Oyster Cult. Reo Speedwagon came out first. Who were they? Dec. 1977-The Fox Theatre. Cheap Trick & The Motors. April 1979-The Fox Theatre. Raggedy Anne, a local band who later regrouped as "RIGGS". They had one LP on Warner Bros., a song on the Heavy Metal soundtrack, and 4 or 5 songs in the movie "Nightshift"...none of which made the soundtrack. Jan. 1980-The Omni. Max Webster Dec. 1981-The Omni. ? some crappy Canadian band. You got me on this one. March 1983-The Omni. Jon Butcher Axis, after Golden Earring cancelled. June 1984-Kansas Coliseum, Wichita, KS. Gary Moore Fall 1984- The Omni. Fastway (what an awesome band) Spring 1986-Kansas Coliseum. Blue Oyster Cult. (what a difference 9 years makes) *this was after Marillion cancelled out of the whole frickin' tour!!! Fall 1987-Omni. MSG....The McCauley/Schenker group. Jan. 1988- Oklahoma City. Tommy Shaw (pre-Damn Yankees) May 1990-The Omni. Mr. Big March 1992-The Omni. Primus Feb. 1994-The Omni. Candlebox Dec. 1996-The Omni. Rush! doing 2112 finally! There ya go. I thought some budding archivist or historian might dig this. The Omni was torn down in Summer of 1997. It was built in 1973, and had become quite the toilet by the 1990's....no skyboxes, ya know? The last concert there was Metallica, in April of 1997. The paper published a list of OMNI facts, and had the top 10 bands ranked by # of OMNI appearances. The Dead were 1st, Rush was 10th. And they even left two of these shows off the list! Metallically yours in Allegiance, Bryan C giant Sandman mark P.S. Zebra was an awesome band! Triumph could've been. and on the subject of 3 pieces, any one remember "Belfegore"? They did one LP on Elektra and had a killer video of people running for their life, that truly left one exhausted just watching it. If there is a CD Fairy, she can bring me that CD for knocking out someone's teeth. >...and The Washington Capitols will drink from the Stanley Cup. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick Bruels <nickb@teleport.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 16:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: ged and bass > From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> > Subject: ged and bass > > >Nick Bruels said: > >Fender P-bass, Rick, Fender J-bass, Steinberger, Wal = 5. > >Add to that the doubleneck and the Rick 4002 > > (4003 actually) Actually, the 4002 back in the H-PeW-MP era, whereas the 4003 is the redesigned 4001. I'm not aware that Geddy has one. The 4002 was a different one from both of these. > >, and you get 7. > >How many angels can dance on the tip of Ged's nose? Meaning, of course, it's kind of pointless to try to count up all his basses. > also the bass/6 doubleneck for APTB live, and his teardrop J bass, and Teardrop P-bass, actually... > the 5-string Wal he used in the studio for Turn the Page, and the second > Wal (the red one). Right you are! > I assume he has at least one spare of each, in case > of stage disaster (you can see some of them on the "rack of doom" on > E..SL video). He did in fact tour with a Rick in several post-Rick tours, I've seen his rack in person. One Rick, the 2 Wals, no apparent spares, at least not backstage. > "Bill Clinton has been sighted walking around the Whitehouse with a pair > of women's panties on his arm. Apparently it's the patch and he's trying > to quit."--Eric Knight At least he's not vomitted on the trousers of any foreign dignitaries...yet. [ Please let's keep political commentary out of the NMS, I get enough of that elsewhere! : rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ted D. Rossier" <trossier@ionet.net> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 19:26:05 -0500 Subject: In the Mood live It sounds to me as if, on the ASOH vid, Geddy and Alex are each saying each other's names, as in "Hey Geddy (Alex) it's a quarter to eight..." Ted - Ted D. Rossier trossier@ionet.net "Individually, we are a ass, but together, we are a genius." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mikey" <bytor@lanset.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:51:34 -0700 Subject: Subdivisions, Fan Enthusiasm, Opening Songs >From: Reg <elezar@bconnex.net> >Subject: does Neil say subdivisons? and a signals question >It's has a pretty convincing set of clips and a story that it wasn't >Neil saying subdivisons in that song, and that It was a Toronto >reporter, check it out I ithink I'm convinced No, it Is Neil it is confirmed in countless interveiws with the Boys, although Lerxt does it live...:) >From: "Ball, Bill" <Bill.Ball@hermann.com> >Subject: T4E >Don't really know what the explanation is. I was certainly not one of >the people who "sat" back and watched. I yelled every word to each >song and stood the entire show. The people in front and in back of me >didn't move the entire show. I sat with a group of friends that made >as much noise as possible. Sadly we could see down about 10 rows and >see everybody sitting. I don't have any gripes with sitting for the >show. Everybody enjoys concerts and shows in there own way. But I >would have loved to have moved down 10 rows closer and switched with >the people that were sitting and talking with each other instead of >being "in tune" with the show. <enter bitch mode> I have to agree also, we had to sit at our venue cause the people in our section were high on crack all night and I didn't need to start a fight with a bunch of guys sitting behing me who thought that they had spent 40 bucks on a ticket to get high and put that nice turpentine smell in the air in out section... <Alt-F4, close bitch mode> >From: SWEDGE@webtv.net (SCOTT WEDGE) >Subject: Opening songs 2112? Maybe The Spirit of Radio? Personally I loved having Dreamline as an opener for this tour. And maybe The Big Money? How bout starting the first set with Natural science... you know the part where the electric guitar comes in. You know, Part I, Tide pools, where the lyrics "wheels within wheels, in a spiral array..." Now tell me that that wouldn't be the Almikey ass kicker! There are others obviously, Virtuality would be a good one... And Half the World... Okay, enough on this...:) Peace my fellow RUSH fans Mikey - bytor@lanset.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Labyrinth/1669 The guns replace the plow, facades are tarnished now The principles have been betrayed The dreams's gone stale, but still, let hope prevail History's debt won't be repaid ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Brace" <yn3@email.msn.com> Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 00:48:26 -0400 Subject: Naked man and other ramblings Hi all-- I while reading the local paper, I came across this headline: NAKED MAN FOUND SHOT. Yup sad to say, its true. Evil has triumphed again! In another Rush sighting, I saw two busses from a company called NEW WORLD. One, had a picture of earth. The other had a picture of a red planet, with a ring around it. Could this be the Red Star of the Solar Federation? If you're driving the along the I-95 or I-85 corridor along the east coast, watch out for it. In yesterday's paper (15 May), it was reported that the Genesis boxed set (I think it is titled "The Gabriel Years") will be out 2 June. It will have the obligitory rare and live tracks only available in the set. Has anyone thought of this (or do I have too much time on my hands)? As everyone has speculated the title for the new live album, the titles of the live albums have some connection with performing live. However, each of them also represents another art form. ATWAS was obviously from Shakespeare. ESL is a quote from a cartoon. A few issues back, there was discussion if anyone saw the three puppets on the T4E tour. ASOH could be another name for a puppet show. There was some discussion about the clearity of T4E. Is this disk DDD? I don't recall seeing this mentioned. A couple of the previous disks were DDD. The band is the only one that I can think of that has recorded in DDD. If the disk isn't DDD, has anyone heard why not? I celebration of issue 2112, I suggest that instead of having an actual post, everyone play 2112 the day after issue 2111. Crank it at the office. Crank it while you do yard work or barbeque. Crank it in the car. If you hear it, take a minute and see who is playing it. Who knows, maybe those of you who have written that there are too few female fans could be proven wrong. Those who thought that Rush ceased to exist would be pleased to find that the and is still putting out quality music after all these years. Take the time and Introduce yourself, and maybe make a new friend. Yup. Way way way too much time on my hands! Thanks for letting me post, Jeff ----------------------------------------------------------
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