The National Midnight Star #2029

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@yyz.com Subject: 05/11/98 - The National Midnight Star #2029
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Re: PEART'S CIGARETTE BRAND "We" on Hemispheres Rush Movie Issue #2112 content Best last song RE: I think ish #2112 should................ movie director Baseball game Test for what? Re: A True Vintage Rush Sighting Live title The Future Of Maple Leaf Gardens TNMS Maiden Voyage Shockwave (no rush content) Re: 05/07/98 - The National Midnight Star #2027 Baseball Music/Xanadu? Week Rush Sighting Riverfront Tragedy ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager) Date: Mon May 11 14:25:55 PDT 1998 Subject: Administrivia Details on the Rush Pop-Up Video appearance! Through dilligence, effort, and paying off a few people, I've found that Rush's video "Limelight" will be appearing on VH1's Pop-Up Video show THIS SATURDAY, May 16th at 6:30PM EDT/PDT. They will also be showing "Tears Are Not Enough", Geddy makes an appearance in that video as well (thanks to whoever posted that tidbit). It'll probably re-air sometime next week as well. And I *WILL* be getting off my butt (figuratively speaking) and update the NMS web page. I feel sorry for the poor Artists Against Racism lady, she keeps getting email about the auction! All will better than it was very soon, and yes the trader will again lurch back to life. In other news, the new syrinx (yes, the same one all you guys donated $$$ for!!) will be up probably in a month or so. A nice P150 running linux (the machine's been bought, just have had nowhere to put it) with a ton of HD space. I'll probably even go buy another HD since they're so cheap nowadays (maybe more memory too). I might even find a use for the "2112.com" domain I have laying around... ;-) Oh yeah one more thing and then I will shut up: I finally got around to doing a RealVideo of Geddy singing at the All-Stars Game a few years back, look for it (and the Toronto Phoenix QT clip) to be linked in as soon as the page gets updated! - rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 23:21:35 -0700 Subject: Cygnus X-1(L) >Andrew Dearden asked: Blake's Seven mentioned the black hole Cygnus XL (sic). >Do you think someone misread a script, is the name just a coincidence or >is there really a Cygnus XL as well? Astronomers please tell us. It has to be a misread, or they were afraid of copyright infringement on the REAL black hole (;>) Cygnus X-1 is short for "Cygnus X-ray source #1." First they discovered the X-rays, then they decided it was a blue supergiant star with an orbiting black hole companion that used to be another giant star that collapsed. If you'd like a synopsis of why they think that happens, e-me. AS the matter drops into the black hole, it is compressed and heated, and emits a LOT of high frequency energy, particularly X-rays. Then it passes the Swartzchild radius and disappears. After that is anyone's guess. mike http://www.2112.net/daggers Rush-related stickers. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine H. Moore" <xamolleh@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 10:44:01 -0600 Subject: More fun with numbers > Katherine, Where did you get the numbers and what the hell does it mean Um...er...uh...<sigh>. Has anyone ever heard the story of the "Radioactive" warning in the Show Of Hands video? OK, the numbers were "real", but the rest... someone! Please! Sean Carroll (aka "Katherine" to speed-readers, or readers on speed [calm down, just a joke. You did call me Katherine, you know...]) >:> ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 23:38:10 -0700 Subject: 2nd guitarists As far as replacements or assistants to Al, I love Joe Satriani, but as talented and skillful as he is, his sound is too different. My opinion of his student, Steve Vai, is that he's a legend in his own mind. Sorr, but he's very precise and doesn't move me at all. Satch's other student, Kirk Hammett, would be a promising choice, as would Steve Howe, Steve Hackett, or Buzzy Feiten from Shotgun Messiah--catch him on Stu Hamm's "Kings of Sleep," and "The Urge." John Heald kindly sent me a compilation of Chris Impellitteri. I revise my opinion--He's REALLY good. Can't think why he isn't more popular. Sounds like a bit of Eddy influence, and maybe a bit of Kirk Hammett, and a bit of Terrible Teddy, plus a lot of his own sweat. mike "The First Amendment guarantees free speech. So does the Second." http://www.2112.net/daggers Rush related stickers ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 23:43:01 -0700 Subject: yes, I'm starting to babble >WHO6489 said: > On my way home this evening, I had a vision. The title of the new >live album! >As you probably know, the live album titles tend to have a performance >theme... >ATWAS - On stage >E...SL - End of the set >ASOH - The roar of the crowd >AND NOW THE NEW ALBUM >CURTAIN CALL - Back for an encore not bad. but how about "Second Set," seeing as there's two discs in it? Or "Third Stage." Oops. Those Bastards in Boston used that already. mike Smoking Cures Bacon. http://www.2112.net/daggers you know... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine H. Moore" <xamolleh@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 01:03:08 -0600 Subject: Re: 05/06/98 - The National Midnight Star #2026 > So there you have it. Rush is a tool of Satan (a socket wrench, I > believe).ETC. Good Lord, Ben, I believe ya outdone me. Wooo-hoooo! Thank you thank you thank you! Sean Carroll ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Radzikowski, IMO, 501st MI BDE" <radzikoj@seoul-501mi.korea.army.mil> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 15:07:14 +0900 Subject: Driving Songs Hey, all you crazy peoples out there! I've been so busy that I haven't been able to check any NMS' lately. I happened to have time, so I came upon this thread. Of course-Red Barchetta, that's a given. Basically, the whole GUP album (for me), exclusively, Between the Wheels. Driven is a good one too. I agree with those who said Dreamline. But how about Face Up? The Fly by Night album is kickin too. And nhow about long trips? Sometimes a different class of music goes well with a long drive. Personally I can't go down the street without grabbing a disc. But I take about 30 on a long trip, just for variety. Here's a few that I like. First probably the best non-Rush for me is Pink Floyd The Wall. Back to Rush: 2112. Hemisphere's (oh hell, the whole Cygnus X-1 epic). Live albums. No matter the song on a live disc, it is done extremely electrifying. Pumps me up anyway. Well, take care, y'all. Raz ---------------------------------------------------------- From: MazScape <MazScape@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 02:35:40 EDT Subject: Re: Rush Movie >This is getting long, I realize... but so was 'MazScape's >'semiflame'. There's no need for such a downer when the music is so good. There was no flame at all. And as for my notes being a downer...well, I'd say "realistic" is more accurate. Personally, I'd *love* to see some sort of Rush movie get produced and *work*. It would have to be perfectly executed, because there's a lot of prejudice against the band from those who don't know anything about "The Boys." For example: Most people I've met (in my age group) who know the Rush name associate the band with pimply-faced geek stoners from 1981 listening to "Tom Sawyer" in their '77 Mustangs out in the high school parking lot. That's a tough barrier to kill. You and I know it ain't so, but tell THEM that. Example: A producer friend of mine was talking about music. Someone mentioned Rush, and how they hated them. The producer said, "Yeah, me too...I've never even heard their music, and I hate them." Okay, so look at the above: A guy who produces feature films who hates Rush without even having heard their music. Outrageous, but typical (as for my personal experience; your mileage may very). It's a horrible feeling to be in a room like that. About the same as being a Mac user among Wintel folk...the same kind of ignorance and injustice works in both situations. Also, someone mentioned that the budget didn't have to be $20-million. To that I say, "of course not." Many fine films (some of the best, in fact) have been made for less than $6-million. However, we're talking about a highly visual band...and to interest distributors and secure pre-sales (with which you finance your picture), you've gotta have some SALABLE element of some kind...whatever that might be (a star, or what have you). Unless you get it financed outright. Hell, there's a million ways to make a movie...we could be talking all week on this subject. And to be sure, there's no rule set in stone. Someone might make a barnyard production on 8mm and sell it to Miramax for $10-million. It might then go on to win three Oscars and do $431-million worldwide, sparking a fever for Rush product and sending the CDs flying off shelves. There will be Neil Peart balloons in the Macy's parade, and a Geddy statue replacing the Jesus in Rio. BUT: Don't count on it. The picture business is extremely complex, fickle, and unpredictable, not to mention flaky. Trying to push a Rush film through that kind of muck is a job for brave and foolish souls... However, with the right script...maybe, just maybe... ;) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy Golborne" <andy.golborne@btinternet.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 07:12:13 +0100 Subject: Rush/CatherineWheel/Van Halen Show on MTV Hi all I keep seeing these excellent reviews of Catherine Wheel's new CD Adam & Eve and was wondering if anyone out there has it, or has heard it and can tell me if it's any good, in a Rush related sort of way. Or, in any other way to be honest. I suppose I should just go and buy it, but there's lots of other stuff on my shopping list at the moment - new stuff from Francis Dunnery, Page and Plant, Dave Matthews Band . . .the list is, as ever, endless. Also - has anyone anywhere got a taoe of the Van Halen show from Down Under that was recently broadcast on MTV, as I'd really really like to have a copy. Please EMail me privately and we can sort out a deal ? (My VCR plays non-PAL tapes, so no probs there.) Cheers Andy andy.golborne@btinternet.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Humberto de la Pantalones <cwalker@poppy.omnisolve.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 02:11:54 -0600 (MDT) Subject: R.O.U.S.es Rush-fans Over-Using Syrinx.umd.edu? I don't think they exist. [rush-mgr enters with the open-field tackle] (That's gonna leave a mark) Issue 2112: I say it should include NMS issue #2, #1, #1, and finally #2, all in one... Sorry, was I not clearly sarcastic enough? Let me try again. How about Issue #2112 be instructions on how to use the mail server to get these issues? Reapeated 2112 times? Actually, in all honesty, I'd like to see #2112 be a confirmed or damn-near-positive set list for teh live album. I can dream can't I? And if not that, how about a retrospective on all the best practical joke posts? Stuff from April Fools' Day posts and the like? It'd probably be a complete pain to compile. but 'twould be cool. New Album Name: To whoever suggested naming it "Curtain Call" or something in sequence with existing live album names, props. Awesome idea. Maybe something cheesy and encore-related like Threepeat? ;) David Hasselhoff: Totally unrelated, but it'd be cool to see him lit on fire. Hold Your Fire Boots: I hate to sound whiny. I want some. Have some? http://www.omnisolve.com/~cwalker/boots.html I'll love you way more than David Hasselhoff. Gorditas? IMHO, Not so viva. Random NMS-Based Musings - Top 10 Songs I Haven't Seen Live and Want To: (no particular order) Cygnus X-1 (ok maybe these are kinda in order) Everyday Glory Scars Presto Fountain of Lamneth Different Strings Cut to the Chase (You're probably thinking exactly that... hold on, I'm almost done) Dog Years Middletown Dreams Digital Man Or something like that. - Chris Walker | "Marking your ballot these days is like cwalker@omnisolve.com | choosing between the 3am showing of The chris_walker@eee.org | Beastmaster on Showtime and the 3am showing of | The Beastmaster 2 on Cinemax" - Dennis Miller ---------------------------------------------------------- From: wchall@email.unc.edu (William Cary Hall) Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 04:17:25 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: Totem Interpretation It gets pretty long, so I just posted it on the web. The URL is http://www.unc.edu/~wchall/rush/totem.html Keep in mind that this is solely my interpretation, and not a speculation on Neil's personal beliefs. Neil says he's content with his work as long as it inspires thought, and that's what I've done. Feel free to comment on it, or even link it or transport it to your site. Just don't change the text (change the formatting all you want). Cary ________________________ William Cary Hall -- ICQ UIN #6956498 wchall@email.unc.edu & unccary@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: puanani@pbrc.hawaii.edu (Puanani Akaka) Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 23:53:45 -1000 Subject: Syrinx Award Hi gang -- This was mentioned awhile ago, but the post came to me through an intermediate step. [and if you can find *that* oblique reference to Rush without looking it up, then you deserve a Syrinx Award yourself!]. First off, let me congratulate the recipients of the Syrinx Award -- The Esteemed Holy Bitch, Eric, Jordan, Hanstones and Rob M. (I didn't leave anyone out, did I?). [much belated applause] Congratulations, folks! Needless to say, however, I was quite astonished to discover that I myself, was a recipient of our newly appointed Syrinx Award! In fact, I was so excited, I wrote out a 15-page acceptance speech! Including translations in Esperanta, French, Bantu, Hawaiian, and Vietnamese. But, unfortunately, Jim Phelps, disguised as Barney Collier imitating Rollin Hand got to it before I did! They converted it to a tape which self-destructed in 5 seconds. [much sobs and sniffles ensue] Damn, the Secretary! But... shuckths, ya guys...(big toe in dirt)...thanx so much for the nominations and the Award. Really, the other winners really *deserve* theirs -- they actually DID things for people. I just knocked my knees together in fright when Geddy and Alex looked at me. [Uh, anyone know where the exit might be?] :-) But I'm glad folks enjoyed the story...and my numerous postings and ramblings. :-) Unfortunately (well, for me), and for various and sundry reasons, I've had to unsubscribe from our beloved Excuse to Talk of All Things Rush. [mos'ly cuz I ain't gone'be a' dis address no' mo'] Hence my only finding out about all this just the other day! [well, actually, I was told by Jordan earlier, but I didn't believe him]. :-) So mahalo nui loa for the Syrinx Award. I thank you all in a most humbling manner and bequeath to you that which is in your reach -- the Page Down key! Mahalo kakou!! Ho-hoo! "Uh-oh...two dozen eggs, two liters of milk..." - Alex puanani (or...something like that) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "DR PAUL SMITH" <Paul.Smith@nottingham.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 10:40:10 GMT0BST Subject: Spelling RUSH FANS IN SPELLING ERRORS SHOCKER INCREDIBLE DEFINITE Nom de Dieu! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: grs2 <grs2@ukc.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 13:38:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: The D'oh Awards! Ladies & Gentlemen, your attention please... Geddy Lee recently commented in an interview with Guitar Magazine that on virtually every album they've ever released there have been one or two songs which didn't turn out quite as well as the boyz would have liked - he also mentioned that if you could keep that number down to one song an album you were doing pretty damn well. With this in mind, I hereby submit my choices for the 1998 D'oh Award for Song Which Didn't Quite Work Out on a Studio Album: Album: Rush Song: Need Some Love/Take A Friend A joint award for this album, as both songs are pretty much as bad as each other - both are infinitely forgettable and catch the band sounding at their most Zeppelin clone-ish. Album: Fly By Night Song: By-Tor & the Snow Dog Although later albums would see the boyz being able to work the concept song a lot more successfully, this one definitely counts as a mistake - I mean, those growling noises in the instrumental? What's that all about? Album: Caress of Steel Song: I Think I'm Going Bald It may have seemed like a great idea to throw in a 'light-hearted' number on CoS, but it really doesn't work towards sustaining the dark, aggressive mood of the album. Album: 2112 Song: Lessons Alex had yet to acquire any lyric-writing prowess, and would not do so until Victor, many years later. Album: A Farewell To Kings Song: Madrigal Despite the fact that the pastoral setting worked exceptionally well on the title track, the boyz pushed it a little too far over the edge on this one. [ Hey! I *like* that song! I even occasionally play quake2 under that name *evil grin* : rush-mgr ] Album: Hemispheres Song: Circumstances The combination of an intensely irritating vocal from Ged and the rather pretentious use of French in the chorus served to mark this one out as the stinker on Hemispheres. Album: Permanent Waves Song: Different Strings This one scoops it for being the least-wonderful song on an otherwise superb album (get ready for more of those) - the guys demonstrate a recurring trend of making an unsuccessful attempt to try something new. [ What did he say? What what what?? Methinks someone is insulting my dragon song.... : rush-mgr ] Album: Moving Pictures Song: The Camera Eye Although Neil pulled a corker of a 10-minute song out of the bag on PeW, he couldn't repeat the trick on MP. TCE has its moments, both lyrically and musically, but suffers from a lack of focus, inconsistent with the rest of the album. Album: Signals Song: Digital Man Yes, I'll admit, it's groovy as hell, and Geddy's bass work is outstanding, but I think Terry Brown may have had a point when he advised the boyz to re-work this one. Album: Grace Under Pressure Song: Red Lenses Neil's experiments with lyrics were genuinely thought-provoking and praise-worthy, but the style of the song still sounds forced and decidedly un-Rush. Album: Power Windows Song: None There IS no weak song on PoW. Album: Hold Your Fire Song: Tai Shan Although oriental influences served to make Territories the quality song it is, those same twangy guitars served to pull Tai Shan down - Neil's picture-postcard lyrics on this one didn't help much either. Album: Presto Song: Scars The overall approach to Presto might have been solid, but the boyz once again headed off into leftfield and came back empty-handed. The emotion is there on Scars, but it never really pulls together into anything concrete. Album: Roll The Bones Song: Face Up If ever there was a textbook definition of a throw-away song, this would be it. Album: Counterparts Song: The Speed of Love The schmaltzy title is a grim foreboder of what is to come Neil shows that although he can write beautiful love songs (GoaC), he has yet to perfect the art. Geddy's bass tries to save it, Neil's military drumbeat kills it dead. Album: Test For Echo Song: Time & Motion Pick a feature on this one - essentially meaningless lyrics from Neil, irritating high/low vocals from Geddy, a kick-ass but heartless solo from Alex. All round loser, easily outclassed by everything else on the album. See you next year! Greg Sanderson P.S. The views and opinions expressed above are those of the author, and all flaming should be directed to his e-mail address rather than to the NMS. Ta very much :) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: strirand@juno.com Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 09:09:27 -0700 Subject: The Members of RUSH -*- Since this is one of, if not the best RUSH oriented discussion groups, I was wondering if any of the members of RUSH are known to have read this newgroup? >..Johan ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Zahid Hassan <zahid.hassan@bradford.gov.uk> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 13:09:16 +0000 Subject: Tour the UK? Hi - I'm new to NMS - one question to ask you guys - Are Rush carrying on with their sporadic touring schedule (ie not touring the UK) Answers on a postcard anyone Zed Zahid.Hassan@bradford.gov.uk ---------------------------------------------------------- From: James Gibbon <jg@ms.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 09:16:50 -0400 Subject: Re: PEART'S CIGARETTE BRAND >>>>> Troy R Shirangi writes: > And incidentally.....Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater smokes Marlboro > Lights 100's(soft pack). I hope he's an 80 a day guy. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "DR PAUL SMITH" <Paul.Smith@nottingham.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 10:35:28 GMT0BST Subject: "We" on Hemispheres I'd go with the simplest expalnation (Palo's) for this one. Later on, it is quite clear that the narrative I returns, and that there is only one Cygnus - "I have memory and awareness.." "The warriors heard my silent cry...", but the slip from singular to plural first person is by no means unusual, either in letrature or in every day speech. Geddy also changes Neil's lyrics on occasion when he thinks they do not work, or if he has a personal problem with them. Limelight was originally written in the first person singular, before Geddy said he could not do it that way, and so changed it to the impersonal one. However, I doubt if this has much bearing on the Cygnus conundrum - I just does not work where the we has been inserted. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan <dano@mail.sandridgebank.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 08:41:18 -0500 Subject: Rush Movie Hello everyone... All of the posts that I have read thus far regarding the "Rush Movie" have been quite interesting! I think the idea is a good one, and I would most certainly go see it at the theaters (more than once, I'm sure! =) ). But, even though it sounds like the movie could be made for relatively little money, we must ask ourselves: Would RUSH really want a movie to be made? It seems to me that they would not. RUSH has always done things their own way - and to me, they've always seemed like very private people. I know that they authorized "Visions" to be written, but then, according to the story that I've read, the "B-Man" betrayed the band's trust. So, I guess I'm just trying to say that I don't think the band who wrote the song "Limelight" - "Cast in this unlikely role/Ill equipped to act/With insufficient tact/One must put up barriers/To keep oneself intact" - would want the story of their life to be splayed across the screens of the world. Does anyone else agree with this line of reasoning? Dan-O "rising falling at force ten we twist the world and ride the wind" - Neil Peart/Pye Dubois ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pete & Rhonda M. Mills" <pmills@txdirect.net> Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 16:34:12 -0500 Subject: Issue #2112 content OK, how about this one? Maybe a bit narrow, but appropriate I think. Post relatively brief descriptions of your first beginning-to-end listening experience of 2112, side 1. I know I can't be alone in having a recollection of listening to the music & reading the lyrics and story on the inside of one of my first double-albums, and basically being blown away by such quality music and concept. Perhaps our kind & benevolent rush-mgr could post complete lyrics & story notes from the original release for those few NMS'ers cursed with only the early CD release that included neither - just so we're all on the same page. Subsequently, issue #2112 would be comprised entirely of 2112 content, from people who know best... all us sick bastards who, drawn further into the twisted web of Rush by this album, are now subconsciuosly forced to use 2112 as PIN numbers & access codes.... Whadyathink? Pete Mills "What can this strange device be? When I touch it, it gives forth a sound..." N. Peart "It's my mom's talking dildo. Don't touch it!" E. Cartman ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve and Kim Thompson <thompsons@mci2000.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 12:55:03 -0400 Subject: Best last song HIGH WATER? Oh boy - I know people listen to Rush for different reasons and everybody has their own taste, but that has to be just about my least favorite last songs, right up there with Available Light. It seems amazing to me that any Rush fan would choose High Water over any of the songs below: Circumstances Something for Nothing Natural Science Vital Signs Between the Wheels Everyday Glory Countdown In the End Cygnus X-1 Carve Away the Stone Working Man I would be hard pressed to pick a favorite from that list. It is much easier to say which songs I do NOT think are great last songs - the already mentioned, plus You Bet your Life and Mystic Rhythms. On those four CDs, I frequently find that the albums end with Tai Shan, Emotion Detector, Hand Over Fist, and Neurotica. (Actually, Roll the Bones often doesn't make it past Ganster, but that's beside the point). I could probably come up with a list of 10 songs off of all Rush albums that I really just don't care for that much. A couple of them would really get me flamed, like The Camera Eye. But when it comes to picking the best last song, I cannot let a suggestion like High Water go by uncommented. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dustin Clingman" <dustin@gdi.net> Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 19:22:19 -0400 Subject: RE: I think ish #2112 should................ Hey Guys, I don't know about what specific content ish #2112 should = have, but we should stop counting and start Volume #2, so we can all = talk about this again in the future. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ball, Bill" <Bill.Ball@hermann.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 13:23:43 -0500 Subject: movie director I would have to give the nod to David Lynch. Was and still is an experimental director. Pushes the envelope as far as directing goes. Does not direct movies for the respect of the mainstream fan or critics, If anyone has seen "Lost Highway" or Blue Velvet" you certainly know what I am talking about. In my opinion his vision is unmatched by todays directors. He hasn't(and I certainly hope he never does) jumped on the blockbuster bandwagon. For this reason I feel he would be the perfect compliment for a band that has refused to fall in line with the mainstream and continues to do things their way. Off the soapbox bill ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian T. Peterson" <brianp@mcn.net> Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 13:44:33 -0600 Subject: Baseball game > From: Ted Gudermuth <tguder@galstar.com> > Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 17:09:37 -0500 > Subject: take me out to the RUSH > > I work the audio board for the local minor lge baseball team (Tulsa Drillers > AA Texas League) and as such have an opportunity that many on tnms would die > to have: I can force-feed Rush to 2-10,000 people a night. > I'm playing at least 1 rush song every game this year. > The most played list consists mainly newer stuff > leave that thing alone, cut to the chase, dreamline, the big wheel > I've played spirit of radio, tom sawyer, freewill, anthem, limelight, the > camera eye, subdivisions, countdown, grand designs - so many that I can't > remember all that i've played. > BUT > playing music at a ballpark isn't all fun and games, and it definitely can't > be wall to wall Rush no matter how much I'd like to do like the guy at Maple > Leaf Garden does during hockey intermissions - just pop Moving Pictures on. > The earlier stuff has too much guitar - too heavy a sound overall. > The thread is - What would you play if you were me?? Ted, For the baseball game music, how about: Half the World - great guitar, not too heavy. The lyrics are simple but powerful. Cold Fire - the theme music may get some crowd response. Dreamline - you mentioned it, but I just had to mention it again. Scars - cool bass, rhythm, rhythm, rhythm. Prime Mover - the "anything can happen" lyrics should fit in nicely. Mission - ASOH version Territories - audience may move to the beat. "A whole wide world, an endless. . ." The Enemy Within - one of my personal favorites. Love the guitar/synths at the end. I think those are some songs that may be get some of the audience saying, "That was a kickass song. I wonder who made it." Ted, I really like your idea of playing newer stuff. After all, that is what Rush has been making in the 1990's, newer stuff. Overall, we spend so much time on the NMS talking about 2112/Hemispheres/MP, that an outsider looking in would think Rush retired. Granted, we need to talk about 70's/early 80's, but lets not forget about late 80's/90's. "Spirit of Radio" and "Tom Sawyer" are on the radio everyday. Much of the public bases their dislike of Rush on these few songs. Don't get me wrong, I like Tom Sawyer, but it just doesn't give me a "shiver down my spine" like most of the other Rush songs. So, it would be great if we can expose the world to newer Rush, or Rush besides Tom Sawyer. Here we have a band that has 20+ years of music, and all the public knows is "Spirit of Radio" and "Tom Sawyer." A person will walk up and ask me, "What music do you listen to?" I will respond, "Rush!" Then they will say, "Oh, so you like that Tom Sawyer song?" And I will say, "Yeah, but it's not one of my favorites. That's not their best song by a long shot." Then, I'll try to explain the talent this band has, the powerful lyrics, the longevity. But, people just don't understand. Anyway, great work Ted!!! Oh, almost forgot Ted, for a BIG BANG, try playing the first track of the "Animated" boot(if you have it). Everyone has heard "Thus Spake Zarathustra." People in the audience will say, "That's the 2001 music. Cool!" Of course, at the end of "Thus spake," a loud wave will sound through the speakers, and then Dreamline will begin. God, I love the sound of that "wave." Later, Brian "We travel in the dark of the new moon" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian T. Peterson" <brianp@mcn.net> Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 14:24:28 -0600 Subject: Test for what? Hi everyone, One cold night, a few months ago, I went into Hastings book/music/video here in Billings, MT. I was in the Rock&Pop music section checking out some of the Rush remasters. Right next to me was two men in their late 30's. They were talking to each other about buying a CoS or 2112 remaster CD. So, I took the initiative to start a conversation: "Have you ever seen them in concert?" "Yeah," one of them said. "We saw them on the Signals tour here in Billings." "Oh really, they sure put on one hell of a show," I said. "I saw them on tour about a year ago. Have you checked out the Test for Echo album?" "Test for what?" he asked. "No, we haven't heard of that one." That's where the conversation ended. It was obvious that these people had absolutely no knowledge of late 80's/90's Rush. They probably assumed Rush was no longer playing. Just goes to show you that there are many supposed fans out there who are only aware of early Rush. It was actually kind of funny. There I was, 22 years old, talking to some people in their late 30's who I figured were long-time fans. Usually, it's people my age who have no idea what I'm talking about in regards to Rush. Test for what? Recently, I was able to get 94.1(Billings) to play "Resist." It was during the 5:00 traffic rush(no pun intended). I was excited, to say the least. Rush on, Brian "We travel in the dark of the new moon" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick Bruels <nickb@teleport.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 14:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: A True Vintage Rush Sighting > From: "bytor" <bytor@i1.net> > Subject: A True Vintage Rush Sighting (aka Close Encounter) > > A buddy of mine recently relayed the following Rush sighting to me. It's > more of a close encounter, really. So, from John in Michigan, enjoy: [Beauty story, eh?] Damn. *That's* a cool story! Thanks, and especially thanks to your friend John. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Hansen <Eric@americanwebinc.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 12:25:16 -0600 Subject: Live title Someone said: > I had a vision. The title of the new live > album! As you probably know, the live album titles tend to have a performance > theme... > ATWAS - On stage > E...SL - End of the set > ASOH - The roar of the crowd > AND NOW THE NEW ALBUM CURTAIN CALL - Back for an encore > Hey, it sounds good to me! Haven't we seen this before? Or is it just dejavu? Hanstones ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike <2themacs@axionet.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 15:38:17 -0700 Subject: The Future Of Maple Leaf Gardens I know I am a bit late with the Maple Leaf Garden debate and what is going to happen to it. I got this article in my TSN Morning Mail and I thought it may interest a few. Mike > MLG open for shinny? > > How does renting Maple Leaf Gardens for an hour to play some > hockey sound? > > Well, if Ken Dryden has his way, the old hockey shrine will be turned > over to the public once the new Air Canada Centre is completed in early 1999. > > The president of the Toronto Maple Leafs would like to use it as a > practice facility but admits it would be too costly to maintain without > more activity. > > Dryden was quoted as saying, ''It's not going to survive as a memory. > This way, a lot of people who never got to see it can make use of it.'' > > Maple Leaf Gardens has been deemed an historical site and thus > cannot be torn down without the permission of the Toronto Historical > Society. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Nancy.Blake@MSB.Mat-Su.k12.ak.us (Nancy Blake) Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 17:05:18 -0800 Subject: TNMS Maiden Voyage HELLO I have been a HUGE Rush fan for 18 years, since I was a junior high school student on Long Island, New York. Now I am a teacher in Alaska (not too many Rush fans around here!), and am so excited to find The National Midnight Star! The most recent issue I've discovered was from September of 1997. How often do are updates issued, and what's the process involved in responding to entries and/or posting my own? I'm not sure who is behind the syrinx.umd.edu web site, but I would like to thank whomever it is for this great "meeting place" for the genuine Rush fans of the world! Last summer, I flew to Toronto to catch Rush's final week of concerts. Of course, the show blew me away . . . but the fans I met were unparalleled. My opinion was strengthened: anyone who is a genuine Rush fan has a wonderfully rich, deep soul. Rush on! Peace. Nance XOXOXO ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Mejido" <mmejido@gti.net> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 20:07:45 -0400 Subject: Shockwave (no rush content) I apologize for the lack of Rush content here, but does anyone know how to make Shockwave games? If not, do you KNOW OF anyone that can make Shockwave stuff?... Any and all information is helpful! Thanks, -- Michael Mejido - (mmejido@gti.net) NY/NJ MetroStars TAXI Fanzine - http://www.gti.net/mmejido/ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Super Dave" <superdave18@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 22:07:48 EDT Subject: Re: 05/07/98 - The National Midnight Star #2027 Ok, while everyone seems to be on the topic of cool songs, what's with "Finding My Way?" For years, I've been wondering why there seems to be an apparent "defect" at 0:29 into the song. Could it have been left in on purpose to show the world that their very first song was less than perfect? Given Rush's later quest for technical near-perfection, you'd think that this wouldn't have been allowed to slip by the production people. As far as I know, it seems to be the only defect that I've noticed on any of their albums. If anyone knows of any more defects, or has any ideas as to the 0:29 thing, let me know! Email me or visit my sorta, kinda Rush home page at http://www.angelfire.com/fl/retrospective ---------------------------------------------------------- From: SWEDGE@webtv.net (SCOTT WEDGE) Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 22:25:36 -0400 Subject: Baseball Music/Xanadu? Ted's post about music at a baseball game: What to play if you're in charge-- I have a friend and fellow Rush nut named Matt who is a pretty good juggler (he might actually be reading this,..you out there, Matt??). He has a routine set up for a short show and during his show he uses background music - he plays the same song that I would play at a baseball park (or one of them at least) if I was in charge of the music: "Where's My Thing" from RTB. It's got a good rhythm and it's not too hard - I think people would enjoy it. Greg Cormier also posted some songs he has wanted to see played live but hasn't yet even though he has seen them 12 times. He mentioned Xanadu - Didn't they play Xanadu on the T4E tour?? Greg, did you miss the show? (They did play it, didn't they??!? Or am I just crazy?? Oh shit, where's my valium??!?) Scott Wedge - swedge@webtv.net Auburn University MBA - Class of '94 WAR EAGLE!!! "We can walk our roads together..." - RUSH ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charlie C." <chase@phoenix.net> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 23:02:27 -0500 Subject: Week Rush Sighting Hey all, I was in on the Big Island of Hawaii last week on my honeymoon and was = taking the "scenic route" of hwy 19 to take in the, what else, scenery. = Well, it so happens that this route is full of "one-lane" bridges = complete with signs proclaiming the upcoming crossing as a "One Lane = Bridge". Needles to say I broke into song every time we crossed one = much to my new wife's dismay (there were a lot of one-lane bridges). That's all, Charlie Houston, TX chase@phoenix.net ---------------------------------------------------------- From: analogkid@tritium.net (Kevin Esmeier) Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 00:07:39 -0400 Subject: Riverfront Tragedy Tommy Lee wrote: I agree it is important to set the record straight where it concerns Riverfront Coliseum and people being "trampled to death" or a "stamped" occurring when The Who appeared there. Unfortunately, more incorrect information was posted to TNMS. Out of respect to those that died and concert goers everywhere, please allow me to present the facts. ===>Where did you obtain these facts from? I live here in Cincinnati, and remember this whole thing all too well. It was a "festival seating" or "general admission" show. For those that don’t recall, since they do not occur at most venues now, it means first in line gets in first, thus can get the best seats. Fans would show up early to be first in line. Security at the venue allowed people to pack against the doors. ======> And the Who were rehearsing inside. People thought the concert started without them. That is what caused the panic. Not to mention not every entry door to the place was opened. Only 2-3. Now days gates are usually set up before the doors into a concert hall to prevent people from jamming up in front of the doors. As the crowd grew, the pressure on people waiting in front of the doors grew. Security only opened a few doors and was very slow in letting people into the coliseum. The pressure on people in front was so great that they could not breathe. They died of suffocation while STANDING in the crowed waiting to get in. No one was trampled and there was no stamped. ======> This is incorrect. Once someone was down on the ground, that was it. They could not get up. People were shoved forward by the crowd behind them, and were actually stepping on other people who were on the ground. They couldn't stop that. There were also people who were pinned up against concrete 'barriers' (this venue is elevated with street traffic and parking underneath) and the doors themselves. Authorities and rescue personnel could not reach the victims and the injured. The concert went on as scheduled, the band were unaware until almost the end, and it took several hours to get everyone treated. That was the beginning of the end for most general admission concerts and hopefully security personnel are more aware of how this phenomenon can happened and monitor crowds to make sure it does not happen. That’s how the gates or crowd control barriers in front of doors help. Crowds line up at that point and there is space in front of the doors to act as a safety valve. =====> The City of Cincinnati banned festival seating after this, and also sued The Who as a possible culprit for rehearsing and causing the panic. That issue was settled out of court. Rolling Stone had a very good article many years ago explaining just what happened on that horrific day. You might be able to find it on the Internet in an archive somewhere and the Library of Congress has a copy of that issue if you ever what to check it out while in Washington. ====> This is not a flame, but if you got your facts there, they are incorrect in some of the details. I am sure there are others in this list who lived through this enormous tragedy. ================================================================= Kevin Esmeier e-mail: analogkid@tritium.net website [LOST HORIZON]: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/7633/ ================================================================= ----------------------------------------------------------
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