The National Midnight Star #2026

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@yyz.com Subject: 05/06/98 - The National Midnight Star #2026
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RE: A new awakening Re: 04/30/98 - The National Midnight Star #2021 Issue #2112 flames and diamonds Rocinante's Crew RE: 05/05/98 - The National Midnight Star #2025 RE: 05/05/98 - The National Midnight Star #2025 re: the crew of the "Rocinante" RE: 05/05/98 - The National Midnight Star #2025 Animated bootleg Marissa Tomei & Alex Lifeson Princess Rush-Mgr Rush movie (long) "That ol' T.C. Broonsie" least favorite awards Counterparts Insert Strangiato Blip RE: Terry Brown sex Phil Collins influencing Neil? least favorite Rush album RUSH = Satan Broon, last songs, driving Re: 05/05/98 - The National Midnight Star #2025 Heartbeat of Cygnus X-1 PEART'S CIGARETTE BRAND Driving to Rush YYZ / looking for some muscians Tom Sawyer, LTO TS, LTO pt 2 Funny Ha Ha Tom Sawyer, LTO part 3 :-{ :-0 :-) I, Robot zzz guitar amps Stuff for Sale ---------------------------------------------------------- From: strirand@juno.com Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 11:07:07 -0700 Subject: Just a hello.. Greetings fellow RUSH enthusiasts.. I like RUSH. They're my all-time favorite band. I've kind of grown weary of top ten lists of favorite songs, and top ten concert experiences.. I've been reading stuff like this for years. I'm not knocking it. I'm just saying that I most likely won't be doing that myself. I do, however, enjoy reading the posts in this newsgroup because I'm fellowshipping w/ people who enjoy good music, especially that of RUSH. So, perhaps from time to time you'll see my interjections. Basically, a glad to be here post. >..Johan ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Naves, Jack" <navesj@pwa.co.sacramento.ca.us> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 09:22:26 -0700 Subject: RE: A new awakening > Has anyone else made the above mentioned association with No one at the > Bridge and Broon's Bane ? Agree/Disagree ? Yeah, I think that they are both typical of Alex's style. He uses arpeggiated guitar figures played using open strings (listen to the verses of Xanadu or Different Strings for other examples). I think that No One At The Bridge and Broon's Bane are both great songs. I noticed that Alex played a similar piece after the Temples of Syrinx section of 2112 during the TFE tour. "Some world-views are spacious -- and some are merely spaced" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: James Patrick Janvier <smgoose@UDel.Edu> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 13:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: 04/30/98 - The National Midnight Star #2021 Hey Rushians! In response to the Rush-Marilyn Manson link, I have seen this scary picture of this dude in an moving pix t-shirt, I have too admit he is pretty hidious. But what is the big deal, Rush has a chemical balance that plays an influential role for various musicians. I also read that Marilyn Manson sighted 2112 as the scariest song he ever heard, but it was something of that nature that drove him to do what he does today. I am not into Marilyn Manson, but it makes me proud to see yet another band inspired by Rush, no matter who they are. Look at Primus, they aren't exactly normal either. How about Back, heavily Rush-influenced, he sports the star and man logo on one of his favorite guitars. Cheers, James Janvier ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco <marc_pe@alcor.concordia.ca> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 13:23:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Issue #2112 My vote is also for reposting of issue #1. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 12:26:51 -0700 Subject: flames and diamonds (Kevin M. Corr) said: >>the flame at the heart of a pawnbroker's diamond did seem to refer to a >>divorced marriage. That is to say, the diamond ring pawned to the >>pawnbroker, >Um, that's not the way I see it. I hardly think someone who was truly >in love would buy their engagement ring in a pawn shop, anyway! ;) well, not unless they were strapped for cash. real love is ALWAYS indicated by blowing money, of course. It's more like the brilliance of the diamond, which _used_ to signify so-called eternal love, now it's meaningless -- a cruel, harsh glint (sorta like the "look in your eyes as you head for the door," hmm?). I do agree with you here. I'd see the pawnbroker's reference as to the pawnbroker making money off someone either desperate for cash or trying to forget their past. mike "Never go into a pet store hungry." rush-related bumper stickers: http://www.2112.net/daggers ---------------------------------------------------------- From: UNC Cary <UNCCary@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 14:16:17 EDT Subject: Rocinante's Crew Max MacPherson <mmacpher@zoo.uvm.edu> wrote: "However, in book 2-Hemispheres: "To the Heart of Cygnus' fearsome force WE set OUR course" Who exactly is "we"? Does anyone have any insight into who the other crew members of this ship were?" I always thought that Cygnus referred to his ship and himself with we; after all, Rocinante was living being for Don Quixote (his horse), so why can't Cygnus personify his ship? Not saying this is right, but it's how I've always seen it. Cary Hall Middletown Dreams - down for the summer! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Flynn, Jason R" <Jason.R.Flynn@UNISYS.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 13:43:30 -0500 Subject: RE: 05/05/98 - The National Midnight Star #2025 david.p.murray@us.arthurandersen.com wrote: Personally, I am hoping for a Hold Your Fire-part II For me that was their least guitar album, but most emotional one to date. This time I want more guitar. After all, it was Ged and Neil who reminded Alex that this is a guitar driven rock n roll band. **** I think it was Alex who reminded Ged and Neil that Rush is a guitar driven band... Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Flynn, Jason R" <Jason.R.Flynn@UNISYS.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 13:49:09 -0500 Subject: RE: 05/05/98 - The National Midnight Star #2025 > From: "Michael D Denney" <archangel@premiernet.net> > Date: Mon, 04 May 98 23:29:46 PDT > Subject: Superconductor? > > Does anyone know who the song 'Superconductor' is about? The > theme lends > itself to someone like Bill Gates...or, I have a college > instructor who > comes to mind--anyone who could control peoples' perceptions. > Mike According to Neil in the Rush Backstage Club Newsletter (I think) for Roll the Bones (yes, I know Superconductor is on Presto), the song deals with more conventional entertainment figures. IMHO, it's just about the evils of the music industry in general. Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Pettis <jazon@robin-nvh.bvsd.k12.co.us> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 12:50:28 -0600 (MDT) Subject: re: the crew of the "Rocinante" Max MacPherson <mmacpher@zoo.uvm.edu> wrote: > lastly, in Cx1 book 1, The lyrics give me the impression, that the > Rocinante only had one passenger. ex: > > However, in book 2-Hemispheres: > > "To the Heart of Cygnus' fearsome force WE set OUR course" > > Who exactly is "we"? Does anyone have any insight into who the other > crew members of this ship were? I think Cx1 is about a person who, while out on adventure, gets sucked into the black hole, and ends up...... in olympus as a disembodied spirit! In book two, the people who follow neither side set out in search of the lone traveler who found another way to go (tales of old brought to light (life?) - I'm not able to reference the quote right now), and make the disembodied spirit aware of the division of the spheres. =+=+=+=+= Guy: SUPER WEAPON! * Crow: Well, a really GOOD one _ , , [ ] ,***, (\____/) ( ) | | (_ _) | |> ( ) <__|| __/ \__ \___/ __||__ //| |\\ / \[]/ \[] /~~~~~~~~~\/~~~~~~~~~\/~~~~~~~~~\/~~~~~~~~~\/~~~~~~~~~\/~~~~~~~~~\/~~~~~~~~~\ Jason Pettis - Campus Technologist - New Vista High - jazon@robin.ml.org ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Flynn, Jason R" <Jason.R.Flynn@UNISYS.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 13:52:55 -0500 Subject: RE: 05/05/98 - The National Midnight Star #2025 > From: bigrushfan@juno.com (Lyle A James) > Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 06:56:21 -0400 > Subject: Live album... and video > > I, too, was just wondering about that. My only complaint is >that the > second disc of the set is from 1979. Is Limelight going to get >screwed > again, and be left off? That would suck. With Limelight having been played on both the CP & TFE tours, why would you think it would be left off? Personally I think the band would take this extremely convenient opportunity to include it and, say, The Analog Kid on the new live album. Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS 9991 <CHRIS9991@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 15:07:57 EDT Subject: Animated bootleg I recently downloaded the Animated bootleg from Craig's Virtual Concert Hall and was very impressed. The sound quality was awesome! But it makes me wonder how does someone make an unauthorized recording off of the soundboard? Was this recorded by the sound crew to be used for the new live CD and a copy fell into the wrong hands? That's my guess. Any other theories? This unedited boot also makes it painfully obvious that Geddy just can't hit those high notes anymore. I like the way he sings on the newer stuff, but reproducing the older stuff is another story. He seemed to really be struggling on Hemispheres and he totally butchered several notes too. That was really difficult to listen to. I heard someone say that they tune down their instruments on some songs and play in a lower key so Geddy can sing them. This problem has become more obvious on the last couple of tours. I can remember seeing them not too long ago, and when they played Freewill, Geddy nailed the high notes on the "Each of us, a cell of awareness..." verse. I guess time catches up with everyone. Another thing that I noticed was that on the newer stuff, the guitar didn't sound nearly as full as on the CD's. This is because lately Alex has been doubling up the guitar in the studio. On T4E, there are several places where I can clearly hear 2 guitars playing at the same time. While this sounds great on CD, it must be hell to try to reproduce that live. Anyway, that's my 2 cents for today. Quote of the day: "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." Jebodiah Springfield Chris Cosentino ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny <dannyr@traveller.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 14:41:55 -0500 Subject: Marissa Tomei & Alex Lifeson All of the suggestions have been excellent so far as to which actors should play Alex, Geddy, or Neil.....but let's not forget who should play Alex Lifeson's wife. I think it should be Marissa Tomei. She's got that same type of pizazz that's displayed in Victor's "Shut Up Shuttin' Up". And my gosh......she's so damned good-lookin'. Whatever went into the batter to make this dish, we wished we could have licked the spoon. Anyone wanna go to The Olive Garden tonight?? :) p.s.--Oh yeah, and she IS single fellas. -Danny "Tough times demand tough talk, demand tough hearts, demand tough.....did somebody say McDonald's?" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Dennis Pupello II <dpupello@gate.net> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 16:08:21 -0400 Subject: Princess Rush-Mgr [ No more rhymes now, I mean it! Anybody want a peanut? : rush-mgr ] More rhymes?! In-con*thceiv*able. _____________________________________ Dennis Pupello II Technology Division City of Brooksville, Florida http://www.gate.net/~bvillefl/ bvillefl@gate.net ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Hesse <HESSEJE15@uwwvax.uww.edu> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 15:02:01 -0600 Subject: Rush movie (long) Hi everybody. (WARNING: long post) I wanted to throw mis dos pesetas into the mess about this whole "Rush Movie" idea, and in particular to respond to MazScape's rather negative and cynical ideas. First, about the whole "who-should-play-whom" debate: A good actor does not necessarily have to resemble the character to play the role well. Anthony Hopkins doesn't really look much like Richard Nixon, but he did a bang-up job in the movie capturing the nuances and idiosyncracies that made Nixon Nixon. Conversely, I saw a play recently about Kurt Cobain's life, and the actor who played Kurt looked almost exactly like him. Was he any good? Not really. Some resemblance is of course necessary, but not PERFECT resemblance. Acting talent is much more important. Incindentally, I think Jeff Daniels would make a fine Alex. But, since the Rush movie would be about three very talented musicians, the actors should also have some musical ability (or at least the ability to fake it convincingly). Can Jeff Daniels play guitar? Next, what we're talking about here isn't an actual plan to make the movie, it's more of a "what-if" kind of thing. But even so, realistically speaking, I think a Rush movie could work. The problems presented by MazScape were: Lack of funding, lack of public interest, and lack of story. I don't really see funding being a problem either. Why does a Rush movie have to be a $20-million project? Fargo was made with under $2 million. Clerks was made with (I believe) under $100,000. Big movies can be made without big money. Why would we need top-notch big-name acting? I'm sure there are plenty of actors out there who could do just as good a job as Jeff Daniels as anybody of playing Alex, and would demand a much lower salary. The biggest obstacle I see is filming locations. There would HAVE to be concert scenes, filmed throughout their career, and these include larger arenas. Smaller venues could be rented, with clever editing and/or special effects simulating the larger venue though. Legal issues would probably come about, and some expenditure might be necessary to convince Rush to let the movie get made correctly. How much did it cost to do Spinal Tap (adjusted to 1998 dollars)? Probably not a whole lot. I don't see lack of interest being a problem either. We already know of a few thousand Rush fans who are already interested in seeing the movie. How many Rush fans are there? Lots and lots. How many people went to their concert last tour? Lots and lots. How many people might be interested in seeing the exceptional story of an exceptional rock band? Lots and lots and lots. If this movie would get made very well, it would have even more draw. Look at Boogie Nights. How many people do you think were interested in porn before this movie? Well, you know what I mean. :) Probably not many people would be interested in a movie about porn (big deal, it's just a bunch of people having sex on camera and faking enjoyment of it really poorly). But the movie was really well done (I recommend it), and it got very good reviews (even a few Oscar nominations), and lots of people went to see it. Rock-n-roll is a big part of our culture. People all over fantasize about being rock stars and "making it". This would be a way for them to see what it's like. For the Gen-X crowd, there is also LOTS of potential for "retro" bits. Rush's career spans four decades (late 60's to the late 90's), each of which has its own retro charm. Once again, just like Boogie Nights!! Here's a title for the film: "Moving Picture" .. ha ha ha ha ha ha I don't think lack of a STORY would be a problem either. Once again I cite Boogie Nights. Big deal, it's PORN. Porn doesn't have very good story lines, so why should a movie ABOUT porn have a good story line? But yet Boogie Nights was very well done. It depicted the interconnected lives of several different people, the difficulties they faced, and how they overcame them. The story for them is not over either. Boogie Nights takes place from the late 70's into the early/mid 80's. Porn has been around for much longer than just the 70's, and has been around since the 80's. The Rush movie would not have to be geared to just Rush fans, just as Boogie Nights was not geared towards just porn enthusiasts. The Rush movie could be geared towards any person who might be interested in rock-n-roll, and the drama behind it. There IS lots of drama in Rush's story. The very beginnings, the hard work, the struggling in cruddy venues, the hunt for a record deal, the meeting of Neil Peart, the constant touring, the toll it takes on their families, the rise to fame, the toll fame takes on the band members, their popular success in the late 70's/early 80's. And of course the individual members have lots of great stories to tell. Neil's trips to Africa, the whole Grace Under Pressure story, the band's trips to exotic locations to record Power Windows (read that tour book), etc. Where would the movie end? Of course it wouldn't go all the way to the end of Rush's career, because it's still going. But there does need to be some kind of climax. I think a good ending point would be the Order of Canada award. The movie could show how little public acclaim Rush received after the mid-80's, and the Order of Canada is a nice acknowledgment of their real achievement. But Selena's death does mix things up a bit. I don't know how this could be depicted in a movie that would get made this year, but maybe in a couple years, it could be done, after Neil has settled down a little more, and is more able to discuss it. Then the movie could end with the release of the next album and the next tour, as if to say "still going!" Either way there would be enough closure. But I really do see one major problem. Would Rush want this movie made? Would they want their story (both as a band and as human beings) being shown worldwide? It's hard to say. They did authorize a biography, so a movie would be the next step up. I don't think it's impossible. :) So there you have it! It might not happen any time soon, but if someone would be willing, and knows the right people, it could happen. Sure, Moving Picture wouldn't rival Titanic, but if done right, it could provide a good return on investment, and bring much enjoyment to moviegoers worldwide. And it'd definately provide even more fodder for discussion on TNMS. :) See you at the movies! - Jack ---------------------------------------------------------- From: nevik@umich.edu (Kevin M. Corr) Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 16:26:27 -0400 Subject: "That ol' T.C. Broonsie" >What ever happened to Terry Brown, did he fall off the face of the >earth, does he still produce? If so, who has he worked with? Yup, he's still working. A group I know he's worked with recently is Fates Warning -- he produced _A Pleasant Shade of Grey_. I highly recommend it, by the way... it's basically one, CD-length song in twelve parts. I dare say it's downright /2ush-like. Did anyone ever notice any cameras here, there, or anywhere on the T4E tour? That might be a clue as to whether there'll be a new video or not. I didn't notice any in Buffalo or Auburn Hills (and damn, I didn't realize I was so close to our beloved rush-mgr!!) But I did make eye contact with Geddy. I can die a happy man... /\/evik ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Finkel <sfinkel@qualcomm.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 13:50:25 -0700 Subject: least favorite awards Lists are in decending order. Keep in mind that this is about RUSH--which is to say that "least favorite" does NOT equal "worst" or "bad." Least favorite Song: Madrigal, Superconductor, Neurotica why: weak lyrics in the case of the latter two--cheesy intro music for Madrigal just sorta ruins it for me. Least favorite live Album: ASOH why: too "polished". you all know what I mean. Least favorite studio album (content) : Rush, AFTK, TFE (what? blasphemy!) why: Honestly, *with a few exceptions* I didn't feel as though the music or the lyrics on these albums was "excellent/rush" enough for me. Exceptions: Xanadu, CTTH, Cygnus, T&M, T4E, HTW, Limbo, B&A, WM Least favorite studio album (sound/engineering) : Presto, TFE why: For Presto, no explanation needed, eh? TFE is muddy-sounding; not enough depth. Least favorite Stooge: Larry why: freakin' whiner! --=== ...and to balance the scale... ===--- Most favorite song: Vital Signs, High Water, Available Light, Red Lenses, Cut To The Chase Most favorite live album: Mystic Dreams, Mirrors, THE NEW ONE !!! Most favorite studio album (content): Counterparts, HYF, MP, P/G Most favorite studio album (sound/engineering): Counterparts, of course, then MP Most favorite Stooge: Schemp, Curly These opinions are solely the responsibility of the author and are not to be construed as giving a shit. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Alexander" <balexander23@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 14:08:16 PDT Subject: Counterparts Insert A question was asked as to why Geddy was playing drums. A more important question would be: did Alex pose for that breast shot? He was in need of some 'support' in the TO show! Nancy wanted to know but was a bit too shy to ask. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lombardo" <lombardo@culinary.net> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 16:31:42 -0500 Subject: Strangiato Blip GOOD! I'm not the only one in RUSHLand who has noticed that blip on the E...SL version of LVS. When I heard it on the Remastered version, I thought "I can't believe they (whoever 'they' are) didn't clean that up". Not worth exchanging or one would be exchanging that disc till the end of time..............later. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Naves, Jack" <navesj@pwa.co.sacramento.ca.us> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 14:41:25 -0700 Subject: RE: Terry Brown > What ever happened to Terry Brown, did he fall off the face of the > earth, does he still produce? If so, who has he worked with? > I have a Voivod album from 1991 called Angel Rat that was produced by Terry Brown. Voivod is a metal band from Canada that tackles sci-fi themes in their lyrics, kind of like Rush did in the 1970's. You should check out one of their web-sites. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ted Gudermuth <tguder@galstar.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 16:44:05 -0500 Subject: sex " He also mentions in the book how he used to have sex with his girlfriend to none other than Moving Pictures. You just never know about some people do you." sex?? to moving pictures?? oh my god! he's really EVIL isn't he? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Antony Gelberg" <Antony_Gelberg@email.msn.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 22:53:34 +0100 Subject: Phil Collins influencing Neil? Hi all, Just bought "Selling England By The Pound", my first old Genesis album. I was quite surprised at how good _some_ of Phil Collins' drumming was, and overall, the album sounds like it could be a classic. My question (as a guitarist who doesn't know much about drums) is: Is Neil influenced by Phil in any way??? -- Antony Gelberg Antony_Gelberg@msn.com gelberga@dcs.kcl.ac.uk antgel@hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Bobby and Korie Allen <MJ69STU@semovm.semo.edu> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 17:17:03 -0500 Subject: least favorite Rush album Hmmmm, least favorite. That's a tough one. Mine is a toss up between COS and RTB. COS contains some good stuff, but Geddy's voice is a little histrionic in parts. "The Fountain of Lamneth" lacks cohesion, and I feel it is their least musically adventerous album. RTB because of "Face Up." It's that simple. The rest of the album is ok, although "Dreamline" is one of the best songs they have ever written. From there I don't know, since I love most of their work. Does anybody else agree? Disagree? Let's see. "Art as expression not as market campaigns will still capture our imaginations..." Bobby Allen ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Why are we here? <bcirillo@indiana.edu> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 18:04:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: RUSH = Satan >>From: rkkmc@juno.com (Randy Campbell) >>Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 20:26:29 -0700 >>Subject: RUSH = 6666 (?) What th......... I'm lost! >>Katherine H. Moore Wrote: >>Rush = 6666 Satanic >>Fly By Night = 66128 Zip Code >>Caress of Steel = 66147 City population figure >>2112 = 666 Satanic Well, everybody knows that Rush spelled backwards is Hsur, which is Satan's cousin's wife's sister's hairdresser. And if you add up the birth years of the band members and subtract their ages when they started playing, and run that through an algorithm, you get 445, which is the number of the Beast, in metric. And if you add the ASCII numbers for CANADA, and divide by 2112, you get 665, the dreaded Neighbor of the Beast, who happens to be Rupert Hine, and we all know how evil he is. And of course, Neil Peart backwards is Treap Lien, which is the name of the softball feild where Beelzebub's uncle's wife's brother learned to play softball, which explains whyu Neil always looks so evil in those tourbook photos (especially Counterparts. My god, what was that?) And if you rearrange the letters in Geddy Lee, you get Leddy Gee, which is Old Swahili for Led Zepplin, whom as we all know works directly for the Devil as a valet service in Burbank. And of course, if you rearrange the letters in Alex Lifeson, you get Nail Lee's Fox, which isn't really all that ominous but is kinda funny, and as we all know the Devil uses humor to cause pleasure, which is evil, although no one remembers why (amnesia caused by Satan himself, I'm sure). So there you have it. Rush is a tool of Satan (a socket wrench, I believe). Ben The Bassman "If you don't think this post is funny you're going to hell" Cirillo ___________________________________________________________________________ + + ___________ Because we're here. ____________/ o o | BASSMAN } We go out in the world and take our chances ____________ o o } Fate is just the weight of circumstances \___________| That's the way that lady Luck dances + + Roll the Bones HOMEPAGE: ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu/~bcirillo VICTOR: Just add /victor, makes it's own sauce ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ted D. Rossier" <trossier@mhs.oklaosf.state.ok.us> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 18:54:12 -0500 Subject: Broon, last songs, driving Hi all, un-lurking myself for a how's it goin', eh?, to blow a kiss Rush-Mgr's way (just a friendly one!) and to tackle a few threads... Someone asked about Broon, the last thing I know he produced was Fates Warning's latest CD, A Pleasant Shade of Gray (from last year). Great album, absolutely worth getting. It's one long song in 12 parts (sound familiar?). Though I've heard FW fans are mixed in their reviews on it, to me it's a fine progressive rock/metal effort, I do hear a lot of Rush influence. You can tell it's Broon's style (sound of the instruments, the way they're mixed, etc.). Highly recommended. On the bit about final songs on Rush albums. Aside from Carve Away the Stone and You Bet Your Life (neither of which I care for), the final songs on each and every one of the boyz discs just says to me, "Play this album again, right now, except MUCH LOUDER this time!" Natural Science, Available Light, Everyday Glory, Between the Wheels are all favorites. Oh, and Chad, I think you've got hold of High Water there, not AL, HW is the one that sounds like Bacchus Plateau. Driving music: Red Barchetta. 'Nuff said. Ted - Ted D. Rossier trossier@ionet.net "Individually, we are a ass, but together, we are a genius." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul C. Monaghan" <cygnusxx@nwlink.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 17:00:04 -0700 Subject: Re: 05/05/98 - The National Midnight Star #2025 Max Wrote: > lastly, in Cx1 book 1, The lyrics give me the impression, that the > Rocinante only had one passenger. ex: > > However, in book 2-Hemispheres: > > "To the Heart of Cygnus' fearsome force WE set OUR course" > > Who exactly is "we"? Does anyone have any insight into who the other > crew members of this ship were? Max, Hello. I think this is a great post, and here is my take. The WE in Hemispheres (IMHO) is referring to the splitting of the passenger of Rocinante into the left and right sides. There is a battle going on and this battle is what turns the passenger of Rocinante into Cygnus - god of balance. Then when he passes to Olympus he is complete with the understanding of both sides of the battle and consequently is able to resolve it. Maybe I am reading too much into the story, but I always felt that by separating your understanding of situations into two, (i.e. left and right) then you have a better chance of balancing the situations into one complete understanding. Pretty deep, but hell I really like those songs. Later, Paul Monaghan ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joshua Overmiller" <jomichov@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 18:08:19 PDT Subject: Heartbeat of Cygnus X-1 This is my first post. I was listening to Cygnus X-1 (book 1) a while back. At the very end, when the guitar is strumming slowly, you can hear a heartbeat in the back (you can hear it much easier with headphones). Has anyone noticed this before? If so, do you have opinions on its significance? (If this has been discussed before, I apologize.) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Troy R Shirangi <tshirang@ic.sunysb.edu> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 21:34:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: PEART'S CIGARETTE BRAND Hello, people. Neil smokes Winston Lights. That's all I have to say. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: bongking6669@juno.com (William B Blanchard) Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 21:03:09 -0500 Subject: Driving to Rush Definate speeding songs Finding My Way Making Memories 2112 overture Red Barchetta (naturally) Countdown Distant Early Warning Big Money Middletown Dreams (where they start the part "The middle aged madonna....") Dreamline Cold Fire Driven Just my favs. Later. Bill "[I want] Better beer" -Neil via Bill ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Il Yum Kim <iyk100@psu.edu> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 22:10:05 -0400 Subject: YYZ / looking for some muscians hey-how come alex isn't given any credits to yyz in the liner notes? who came up with the kick-ass solo, then? just wondering....oh, one more thing. are there any bass players or drummers on this list that live in the king of prussia area or anywhere near philadelphia? when i come home from school this summer i'd love to jam on some rush tunes(i'm a guitar player). the only problem is i don't know anyone that plays bass or drums. none of my friends play instruments, and if they did, rush would be the last thing they would play. email me if your interested. il ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Gray <bigearl@arches.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 23:49:31 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: Tom Sawyer, LTO Little Drummer Boy <reece@ONLINE.EMICH.EDU> wrote: >> I could think of a million words to describe the band? What 2 words >> would anyone out there in TNMS land come up with?? >Tom Sawyer I found this interesting because, though "Tom Sawyer" is undoubtably (along with "Spirit of Radio" and maybe "YYZ") one of Rush's most famous songs, I've always thought it was a rather atypical Rush song. The relatively straightforward, heavy 4/4 groove (true, they do mix it up a _bit_; that's Rush all right), the (for them) simple and repetitive song structure, the relative lack of instrumental flash (Neil does get in a few good fills), and especially the synth effect at the beginning... It's a hard thing to put my finger on... I'm not _slamming_ TS by any means (all the people who heard TS but nothing else can't ALL be wrong). It's not a _bad_ song, it's just an atypical song for an atypical (in a different way) band. >...tho I do have to relate that it may have turned _one_ person off to Rush. Many moons ago, my father and I were in CO on a ski trip, and on the van ride from the Denver airport to Aspen I was listening to Rush on my portable CD player. While I was on _Moving Pictures_, he asked me what I was listening to. I handed him the headphones and hit "Play". He heard about 30 seconds of "Tom Sawyer", then handed the headphones back, saying something like "This isn't really my kind of music." True, my dad _does_ have somewhat limited taste in music, but maybe if he'd only heard "Red Barchetta" or "Limelight" instead of that synth effect... Who knows. :-) "The spaces in between / Leave room / For you and I to grow." Alex R. Gray, bigearl@arches.uga.edu smisrp@www.cba.uga.edu "Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it?" - Ford Prefect in "The HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Gray <bigearl@arches.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 23:56:15 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: TS, LTO pt 2 Oh, there was a REASON I put "LTO" in the subject line of that other post... <G> Thanks to whoever recommended the Liquid Tension Experiment album (with Tony Levin and two guys from Dream Theater) on this list. Fun to listen to, especially if you're a musician (like I sort of am). I think instrumental music like LTO (or DT, or EJ, or JS for that matter) has to be listened to in a certain way. If you go looking for hooks or articulate, novel emotional expression, chances are the pickings will be slim (unless you have a particular taste in music). However, sometimes it's fun just to hear technically skilled musicians raging away on their instruments... Of course, Rush is one of those rare bands that's good at both, but that shouldn't be news to anyone on THIS list... <g> "Some world-views are spacious - and some are merely spaced" (or "...merely space" as I used to think it was) Alex R. Gray, bigearl@arches.uga.edu smisrp@www.cba.uga.edu "Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it?" - Ford Prefect in "The HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael D Denney" <archangel@premiernet.net> Date: Tue, 05 May 98 23:16:16 PDT Subject: Funny Ha Ha Thanks for posting my last e-mail--my name in lights! I have a funny (haha) story to relate to Rush fans. In a college English class we were assigned one poem of our choosing to memorize and recite to the class. I chose Samuel Taylor Coleridge's poem about Xanadu, which was said to have been written while he was under the influence of opium. So anyway, get what I do? I go home, pop open a cassette and listen to the Rush song, all the while neglecting to even pop open a book, and ... around 2 or 3 a.m. I discover my error. The idea was so great in theory... (agonizing angst sounds). The good part was this experience led to a deeper Rush experience for me. The other good part? I memorized the poem before class started anyway, so I made a 'B' in the class. I learned never to underestimate how ignorant (beyond belief, actually) I could really be... --(bowing out amidst boos and jeering)-- "I tasted the answer and my body grew weak for you, the truth...."(for the girls) Editor: you can edit this stuff if you consider it too stupid or silly for print.:-] ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Gray <bigearl@arches.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 00:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Tom Sawyer, LTO part 3 Wait a minute! The acronym for "Liquid Tension Experiment" would be LT_E_! Where the hell did I get "LTO"?! :-S "Christ, what have you done?!" alexgray ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael D Denney" <archangel@premiernet.net> Date: Tue, 05 May 98 23:32:49 PDT Subject: :-{ :-0 :-) That's it! I was trying to think of a way to represent the trio in web-ese, and thought of this: :-{ -- Neil during 'Fly By Night' days, including mustache... :-0 -- Geddy--mouth open and singing... :-) -- Alex, just plain happy freewheeling through La Villa Strangiato... Tell me if this is even STUPIDER than my last posting--you'll learn I'm a halfwit and 1/2 If anybody can think of a way to represent Rush with a better network nomenclature, feel free to e-mail it to me. Think along the lines of p/g, album names, and the scissors-stone-paper thing... (okay--cut out the snickering and open-mouthed stares) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 00:40:32 -0700 Subject: I, Robot >"Chad Werner" said: > To me, that is why it is just so disappointing when the band puts on >their robotic shows. It would do their hearts good to loosen up a bit >(if the stage show has to suffer, that would be alright BY ME). I see your objection, even though I don't agree, but "Robotic" is a harsh word. it implies lack of feeling or caring; just a "let's go through the motions and screw our money out of these bastards." I don't think you actually feel that way about them or you wouldn't go see them. Al's best improv--(I sent this before)--Presto tour in Indianapolis--in Superconductor, during those heavy quartal chords on his retuned guitar (tuned in 4ths instead of 5ths), he snapped the b-string. Heavy feedback squeal. His left hand slid up the neck while his right wrapped the broken string around the headstock. Ged filled in for about 4 seconds, then Al KEPT PLAYING about 6 frets higher, with some REALLY weird fingering (quartals on guitar are bizarre enough; to improv them 6 or so frets higher off the cuff is GENIUS.). He played to the keyboard bridge, played it (I think this was before it was sequenced) and kept playing guitar afterwards. His tech (JJ) came running out, looped another guitar over his neck and cut the first one loose. Al swapped over, and resumed his original chord pattern without missing a beat. \ While it would be fun to watch "scheduled" improv, the "copes with stress" incidents like this are THAT much better for being rare. mike Rush bumper stickers: http://www.2112.net/daggers (we will soon take Amex and Disc as well as V/MC/Checks) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marianne M. Voogt" <mvoogt@interlynx.net> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 22:45:10 -0400 Subject: zzz guitar amps hoi all echoesians . . . badgeholders . . . rusties . . . rush freaks . . . sorry to waste your precious bw, but i am momentarily un-lurking to ask a question . . . In a couple of weeks i will be getting a les paul replica for $50. considering my (rather precarious) financial situation, i was thinking of building my own amp. how hard can it be, right? well, in all actuality, that is my question to you. how hard would it be to build an amp? i have : wood available to construct the box two 10" woofers decent skill level with electronics so, any suggestions on how to go about doing this????? (i know, i know, sign out a book, right???? ;^) anyway, that's about it from me . . . off to lurk again later eh? Dan "where would rock n roll be without feedback?" dg ps, please respond to this on personal, not the lists . . . thanks again dan ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Henderson <motoman@pe.net> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 23:51:00 -0700 Subject: Stuff for Sale Just a one time note to all. E-Bay Auctions has quite a few RUSH items for bid daily. You name it, boots, videos, guitar picks, those hard to find laserdiscs, tour books, autograph pics. Prices can be great and they can also go beserk. Hey its an auction, anything can happen. Thought you'd like to know. http://pages.ebay.com/aw/index.html Good Luck, Tim ----------------------------------------------------------
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