The National Midnight Star #2024

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@yyz.com Subject: 05/04/98 - The National Midnight Star #2024
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Julien is gone because... Issue #2112 Re: 04/24/98 - The National Midnight Star #2017 Rush shows and improv and etc. Ticketmaster Ick Rush Stuff to Buy in Pittsburgh Concertos in Europe? Re: 2112 issue Re: The National Midnight Star #2112 Neil - Back in the Saddle? Live Album and.........Video? Rush plays covers Actor to play Alex rush unplugged John Rutsey Interview Re: My Generation and Rush ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Hansen <Eric@americanwebinc.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 08:56:44 -0600 Subject: Jman's diary and Country rush To Jman: now I know what I missed out on before joining NMS! You post was top notch! If there are any NMSer's in the Denver area that would like to get together for the next Rush tribute concert (there is a Denver tribute band listed on the NMS page), lets get together! My wife saw Rush with me for the Presto tour and is of the belief that once is enough (heavy sigh...), and none of my friends are Rush fans (heavier sigh...). Regarding Country Rush (you wouldn't believe how many posts I received on this...): for all of you that don't have a boot (i.e. Animated) from the Counterparts tour, Rush does a portion of Cold Fire in the Country Western style before breaking into the normal routine. Hanstones "We like both kinds of music, Country and Western" - Bob from Bob's Country Bunker :) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Erich Schmidt <schmidth@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 10:50:26 -0500 Subject: Re: 04/30/98 - The National Midnight Star #2022 This is the first time I have read this site and I am truly impressed. I myself am a huge Rush fan. Their music is simply fabulous. I would like to respond to Hanstones@aol.com>said. As I read that entry I was listening to Natural Science. This is my favorite Rush song. When they played it during the Test For Echo tour I was in awe. This is a great site. You guys all keep rocking and remember"the meek shall inherit the earth." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wilson, Daniel" <WilsonD@pbworld.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 13:02:57 -0400 Subject: Thanks Thanks to everyone who kindly responded to my plea for The Analog Kid boot MP3, I now have two fully working copies. Goes to show that Rush fans really know how to stick together!! Craig's Virtual Concert Hall Rules, I hope after you take the MP3s off, they resurface elsewhere, what a great service for those of us who have a hard time geting ahold of boots. I know it has been said a hundred times, but if you haven't heard Rachel Barton's TSOR, you are really missing out! ******************************************************* Danny Wilson (301)998-6620 wilsond@pbworld.com ******************************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hinson, Steve" <Steve.Hinson@smi.siemens.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 10:18:04 -0700 Subject: Just Stuff Hi Rush fans, About Big Al's look alike: In the liner of CP there is a picture of Alex (in b/w) next to the four elements pictures. For some reason this reminds me of John Ritter as seen in "Slingblade". Hey, unlike the Elvis postage stamps, nobody has said what era of Alex we're looking for. About stage antics: On the T4E tour, Alex did a little "Macarena" dance during one song. The second leg of the T4E tour (first time I've seen them twice on one tour!), I don't remember him doing it again. After seeing them twice on one tour, I did notice a lot about their show that doesn't change. But still, they are one of the best performing bands, ever. One thing I've heard from friends who I've taken to see Rush is "There was so much music for just three guys!" I've explained to them about Rush's use of electronic gadgetry to recreate their studio work. Most people are impressed that they can do it so well. On a related note, I recently saw Yanni in concert. Yanni's music live has a very rich texture and feel. As it should, because he has about 25 people on stage with him. As only a true Rush fan would, I found myself thinking that this was the only other concert I had seen that compared with the complexity and power of a Rush show! Not bad for just 3 guys, eh? Keep Rushin on, Steve The Cynical Idealist ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wilson, Daniel" <WilsonD@pbworld.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 13:13:19 -0400 Subject: Geddy Bass Quick question on the Limited Edition Bass....how limited of an edition are we talking about? how long will it be available *new* from Fender, a year? two? six months? I don't have the cash to drop now, but I will in the future, just wondering about my window of opportunity, please private e-mail responses so we don't clutter the NMS with stuff no-one else wants to hear about ******************************************************* Danny Wilson (301)998-6620 wilsond@pbworld.com ******************************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- From: John Breckow <jbreck@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 10:39:47 -0700 Subject: Speaking of "Losing It" Being that nothing is ever new under the sun, and I'm sure it's been visited a zillion times, I'll nevertheless open the following thread: I am currently nursing a severe case of "LSOARABRB" (Last Song On A RUSH Album Being Really Bitchin') Syndrome. I've been flipping back and forth between High Water, Mystic Rhythms, Countdown, Natural Science, etc. But there's more. (Pause while I light a candle, and look helpless). I need help. I . . . I can't stop listening to one of my all-time closet classic loves: Available Light. That song is so, so awesome. It's not a love that I'm proud of, it's just, (pause, sniffle), when "that" chorus riff kicks in, lines like "Chase the light around the world," Alex's guitar raging, I mean how can you not beat your head rhythmically, crank up the air guitar, and screech "Dah - Dah - Dah, Dah - Dah De Dah!" to the heavens? Huh? Tell me HOW? And on the third go-round of the chorus, when Neil alternates between smashing his symbols and thumping some floor-tom thingy (correction is pending, I'm certain) . . . chills, freezing hot needles, dogs and cats, living together . . . yes, it's bliss. (Sob, chest-thumping, angst) Bliss I say! Have I reached Nerd-vana? Am I the ultimate putz? Yes I am. And thanks for asking. So how about it? Doncha' just love those little gold nuggets Rush places at the end of their albums? And isn't Available Light awesome? Anyhow, until next time. By the way, I got some really nice responses to the "sublime Rush experience" thread. See, we can play nicely when we try. And whoever came up with the "/2ush" symbol . . . bravo. It's really groovy. It only took me a month to stop saying "backslash - 2 - ush" Doh! Off to the Available Light, again, john "You keep using that word . . . I do not think it means what you think it means." [ No more rhymes now, I mean it! Anybody want a peanut? : rush-mgr ] P.S. - Dr. Paul Smith said that "you should try getting out on the motorway (freeway), putting on Countdown (loud, natch), waiting till near the end and then "really brewing out". Some guy just did that on a freeway in Los Angeles, only he took the "get out" part a little closer to the heart (Amen). He climbed out of his truck on a freeway overpass, set himself on fire, then blew off his head (literally) with a shotgun . . . all on national television. Look for the footage to appear on "America's Funniest Home Videos," right after a segment of a little kid belting his dad in the crotch with a whiffle ball bat. No word on if he was listening to Rush, but I think Pink Floyd's "Brain Damage" would have been more likely (Oops, no offense intended, Rush Mgr . >. . I love them too. Good God, I'm going to be black-balled from the NMS.) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Bobby and Korie Allen <MJ69STU@semovm.semo.edu> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 12:40:41 -0500 Subject: rush criticisms As far as criticism of Rush and their fans being the equivalent to a slap in the face of the band members, I must take umbrage. I have been a Rush fanatic for 18 years, and admire the band's ability, professionalism and integrity. However, NO ONE is above constructive criticism, including the members of Rush (ask them, I'm sure they will confirm this). Trying to limit the dialogue to praise smacks of censorship and low self-esteem. If the criticism is not on target, the music will bear it out. This isn't a flame, just a reminder that these three men, although brilliant musicians, are human. My favorite albums are the awesome trilogy of Waves, Pictures and Signals. The late seventies and early 80's were a period of explosive creativity, as Rush condensed their sound. The first three albums are almost totally unlistenable to me now. Before you flame, that is my opinion. 2112 is still a masterpiece, AFTK and Hemispheres are classics. As far as the keyboard influence in the mid-80's, I loved it...I hate to see a band rest on their laurels and reproduce the same record over and over again. The music may sound dated to some now, but they stretched their sound and reinvented themselves. Judging by the progression of the last few albums (love the song RTB, least favorite album) the next studio record should be a heavy hitter. I can't wait to see you all at the tour. P.S. Then I feel the powerful vision Their fire has made alive I wish i had that instinct I wish I had that drive Have a nice day! Bobby Allen ---------------------------------------------------------- From: sara olson <sara.olson@snet.net> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 14:03:22 +0000 Subject: The Ultimate Ride Hi all- Here's a fantasy I've had for a while now: How about a 3 hour lazy-boy tunnel ride long music video multimedia montage of RUSH-real cool sit, high definition 3-d, of course in Bose wrap around stereo with real deep subwoofer action and the screens are in the tunnel you are in while strapped into a grey leather lazy-boy going about 40 mph on rails or on a post like the new rides at Great Adventure? I'd pay a few hundred bucks for that experience. P.S.-That post at the end of #2021 was way too long and had hardly any RUSH content at all and I never want to see that again please. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Horta <phorta@i-2000.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 15:09:05 -0400 Subject: Rush video campaign Hey NMS'rs, I haven't posted in a while but I have an idea that a lot of Rush fans maybe interested in.I was on a Mahoghany Rush website earlier(for those of you who do not know who Mahoghany Rush is, they were also a Canadian power trio from Montreal.Their guitarist/vocalist is Frank Marino who in my opinion is very very underrated.He came from the Hendrix school of playing.I suggest picking up Dragonfly: The Best of Frank Marino and Mahoghany Rush.They are a great band.Go up on their website which is http://www.wildwilly.com/marino1.html Anyway getting back to the subject,I was on their website and they had some sort of campaign to get two of their albums released on CD that were never before available.I guess the guy who runs the website had fans post their names or something and then submitted it to the record company and got them released.So I got the idea that maybe we should do something like that to try to get Polygram Video to re-release Exit Stage Left,Through The Camera Eye and the Grace Under Pressure Tour videos on VHS and Laserdisc re-released.Rush Mgr I don't have a website but maybe you would be willing to put a section up on your website to do this.If you need help with some one running it I would be glad to help.I am not doing it just because I want the videos because I have all the original videos on VHS(but I would like to have ESL and TTCE on laserdisc)but I feel that there a lot of Rush fans that would wan't them.COME ON NMS'rs LETS GET OFF OUR BUTTS AND MAKE THIS WORK!!!! Al Horta ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick Bruels <nickb@teleport.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 13:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Not-so-hot Rush sighting > From: SWEDGE@webtv.net (SCOTT WEDGE) > Subject: Not-so-hot Rush sighting > > I meant to get this in a while back but I forgot. But it's such a non-big-deal that you remembered it. > I was at a bookstore about a month ago and I noticed an autobiography > (or a biography maybe, whatever) on Marilyn Manson. Having absolutely no > interest in him or his music, I was still curious to see what drove him Sure, you betcha. You've got absolutely *no* interest in him at all. Right. I'll believe that. The sooner you own up to your infatuation with him, the sooner you can begin to deal with it. ObObtuse: ;) > to be....well, what he is today. So I started flipping through the book, > glancing a little at the dialog (some very scary stuff) and scanning a Scary? You scare *that* easily? > I noticed a picture of him sometime in his early teens around the > early 1980's. Hideous looking thing, had the make-up, whacky hair-du - > he looked real f###ed up (well that's MY opinion). And then I noticed > he..... was wearing.......... (gasp) ......a RUSH "MOVING PICTURES" > T-SHIRT!!!!! > > AAAARRRGGHHHHHHH!!!! Yay! Just shows he had taste back then, and now, perhaps. Maybe he's *still* a fan--no, maybe even a *bigger* fan than he once was! How's that sit with you? > For those of you who may like Marilyn Manson, I say to you: to each his > own. I find him entertaining. Funny. Some of the music ain't too bad. It's an act. Cope. But thanks for allowing me my own thoughts and likes. > But I just don't like the idea of this PARTICULAR man being linked > in anyway to Rush. But such is life and I realize it's no big deal to me Yeah right. It's so *not* a big deal to you that you feel compelled to write to all several thousand RushFans(TM) about it. > I like Rush and their music, period. If someone wanted to rationalize > from this picture that maybe Rush had some influence on this man and > helped make him what he is today, I really don't care. Then why bring it up? > But still I'd like to know what all of you think of this. Has anybody > else seen this picture? Nope, but I'm glad to hear that, like me, he was a RushFan(TM) who apparently went to the MP tour! What a show--I got up front for the first Minneapolis show. All three guys looked at me, and Geddy acknowledged something I yelled at him, wish I could remember what it was. > Scott Wedge - swedge@webtv.net > Auburn University MBA - Class of '94 > WAR EAGLE!!! > "We can walk our roads together..." - RUSH "Or we can piss and moan about who should or shouldn't like what we think they should or shouldn't like." - Nick ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Mejido" <mmejido@gti.net> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 15:14:13 -0400 Subject: King Crimson, Gentle Giant Hello folks! This is my first post in about 3 years. I unsubscribed after being on for about a year, and for some reason or another decided to get back on. So here I am... miss me? Anyways, I've heard alot about the bands King Crimson and Gentle Giant. Can anyone tell me which should be the first albums I get to sample each of these two bands? I'm a HUGE Rush fan (fav: Signals) and PF fan (fav: Animals). That ain't much info, but can anyone make a suggestion as to which should be my first KC and GG cd's? thanks -- Michael Mejido - (mmejido@gti.net) NY/NJ MetroStars TAXI Fanzine - http://www.gti.net/mmejido/ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Benjamin Leimkuhler <bel3697@griffon.mwsc.edu> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 15:47:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Possible Rush sighting in a movie I was watching a movie on HBO or something a few months ago called "Some Kind of Wonderful." Its about this guy and this girl who are good friends. Only the girl like-likes the guy, and she's also a drummer by the way. But the guy likes some other girl really bad, and he makes the drummer girl mad and jealous. You may have seen it. Anyway, I'm not 100% certain, but in one of the scenes which takes place in the drummer girl's bedroom, it looks like there's a Grace Under Pressure poster on the wall. I need to go out and rent it so I can see for sure. [ I've seen it too (the movie and the poster) -- just a few weeks ago in fact... : rush-mgr ] Ben Leimkuhler ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Benjamin Leimkuhler <bel3697@griffon.mwsc.edu> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 15:50:36 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Yes in New Jersey Hi- I forgot to mention. Is there anybody on this list who thinks they will be attending Yestival in Cherry Hill, NJ on 6/27-6/28 and/or the Yes Concert in Camden, NJ on June 27. I'm planning to go, but I'll be going by myself because all of my friends are too lame to dig Yes like I do. It would be nice to hook up with somebody while I'm there, if anybody's going. E-mail me and let me know. Ben Leimkuhler bel3697@griffon.mwsc.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: slyall@juno.com Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 17:00:23 -0400 Subject: Rush fan missing since 3-2-98 My fellow Rush fans: My sister Suzanne, a big Rush fan as I am, has been missing since March 2nd from Albany, NY, where she is a student at the State University of NY. The Other night in our hometown of Ballston Spa, NY a candlelight vigil was held in her honor, it was all very nice with what Suzanne and all would term "sappy" adult contemporary type music, and gospel music. The highlight of the night was when they played "Mission" which was her favorite Rush song, it brought me to tears when I thought of the times we listened to, discussed the band, and attended 2 concerts together (CP and TFE), it also gave me hope listening to the profound lyrics which seemed so appropriate to this situation, that she may return home to us. As much as I love the song , I can no longer listen to it without being mover to tears. Thanks for reading and if anyone out there is interested, we have set up a web site at: http://www.global2000.net/suzy a spirit with a vision is a dream with a mission. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Caroline in the City <ccweiss@indiana.edu> Date: Fri, 1 May 98 16:28:07 -0500 Subject: Cars and Rush Hello guys! Jaime wrote this: >Does anyone else have this problem? > >I'm driving down the freeway, listening to Dreamline....goind 75 >M.P.H. one minute....and going 80-85 the next. I'm a law-abiding >driver...never speed anyother time. It's just that song..... > >Anyone else? > > Jaime Jaime, I'm kind-of like you...certain Rush songs definitely make me speed. I'm what you'd call a habitual speeder, though...not a "law-abiding driver" like you. But every single time I've been pulled over and ticketed, I've had The Spirit of Radio or Red Barchetta blasting. Go figure... Well, must sign off. Rush on, guys! Caroline ***************************************************************** "If a tree falls in the forest and no one's around, and it hits a mime, does anyone care?" --THE FAR SIDE, Gary Larson ***************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Caroline in the City <ccweiss@indiana.edu> Date: Fri, 1 May 98 16:30:51 -0500 Subject: actors to play the boys... Hello again! I forgot to commend those of you who nominated the X-Files guy and the guy from Three Weddings and a Funeral to play Geddy and Neil. I've been saying for years that Mulder's little computer-geek friend looks like Geddy! Right on, guys! Caroline ***************************************************************** "If a tree falls in the forest and no one's around, and it hits a mime, does anyone care?" --THE FAR SIDE, Gary Larson ***************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin E. Davidson" <ked@iti-oh.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 17:46:22 -0400 Subject: 1812 = 2112????? This may or may not have already been discussed, but I've never seen it before. I apologize if it has... The other day I had some free time and I was surfing the web for info about the War of 1812 (had listened to the 1812 Overture that morning, and was inspired to look up info). Turns out that there are some facts about the War of 1812 which I find parallel 2112. Turns out that Tchaikovsky was comissioned to write music for the commencement of some church in Russia around 1880, and for whatever reason he decided to use the War of 1812 for inspiration. Now if you've ever heard the 1812 Overture, I hope you agree with me that it is a very powerful and patriotic sounding work. (and if you haven't heard the whole thing in it's entirety, you should do so!) Anyways, back to the issue. Tchaikovsky used the story of what happened to Moscow when the French invaded Russia during the War. From the info I was able to gather, it went something like this: As the French invaded Russia intent upon capturing Moscow, many lives were lost in bloodshed as the Russians fought to protect their homeland. Something like the order of *hundreds of thousands* of lives lost. In all of this fierce battling, they eventually made their way to Moscow and captured it. The Russians fled the city as the French were overtaking it. Now here's the part that really hits home. From what I could gather, this is not a "proven" fact but it's generally thought that this is the case. Basically, the Russians said "the hell with this, if we can't have our homeland they SURE AS HELL aren't going to have it" and they went in and set their beloved city aflame. Burned their home to the ground in order to keep the French from being able to have it. Talk about loyalty to one's heritage! This makes the 1812 Overture seem even more inspirational to hear - especially gloary of the ending sequence of the song - the church bells ringing out, the strong and powerful orchestra blaring the folkmelodies of Russia, and finally the majestic cannons blasting the final call of victory - pretty powerful music here. Now on with the parallels between this and 2112. In 2112, we have the "elder race" of people, who were driven from their home by the rule of some overpowering empire - in this case, the priests and their followers. The elder race are forced to leave their homeland, only to wait until they have the plan and the strength to come back in the end and reclaim their home (if this indeed is what is implied to happen at the end - attention all planets of the solar federation...we have assumed control). I find the two stories to have a general theme common to both. "their power grows with purpose strong to claim the home where they belong home to tear the temples down home to change" elder race <-> Russians priests <-> French tear the temples down <-> burn the city down claim the home where they belong <-> claim the home where they belong Now the tearing down of the temples relates in a way to the burning of Moscow, the difference being that in 2112 the temples are the priests' work, and in the story of 1812, the city was the Russians' own home. But nonetheless, I found this to be quite interesting of a comparison. Perhaps there is more correlation between these two works than just the naming convention and the little 1812 melody... just a thought. Any comments? - Kevin Davidson ked@iti-oh.com International TechneGroup, Inc. http://www.iti-oh.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Hanstones <Hanstones@aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 18:01:52 EDT Subject: Julien is gone because... Joseph Sims wrote: > Okay, did I miss something, or have the recent NMS been > Julien Daigle free for a reason? Yes! He was sacrificed by the Holy-bitch at the final KAR meeting! Puanani then roasted him in a fire-pit while we danced naked under the Red Star. [ He actually unsubscribed himself a little bit ago. *shrug* : rush-mgr ] Hanstones "I guess it was a dream, but even now it all seems so vivid to me." 2112 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan <dano@mail.sandridgebank.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 17:04:50 -0500 Subject: Issue #2112 To the rush-mgr: Since the song 2112 tells a sort of sci-fi story, how's about for that issue of the NMS that we have people create original poetry and/or short stories with a RUSH theme? If a lot of people participate, this could get rather long, so maybe we could start submitting them soon and then you could choose the ones you think are the best to make up the issue. How do the rest of you feel about that? Kick ass or Too Lame? Dan-O "rising falling at force ten we twist the world and ride the wind" - Neil Peart/Pye Dubois ---------------------------------------------------------- From: 56384F96@student.csi.cuny.edu Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 17:15:32 +0000 Subject: Re: 04/24/98 - The National Midnight Star #2017 Dearest fellow rush fans; I felt I wanted to post something in honor of two things. In response to the truly poignant message from Martin (glyndwr@hotmail.com), this was probably the most beautifully written and inspiring article I have read. It was so well written and I was actually looking out on this April 24th postings for anything that may be a sign. A sign for what? On April 24th, 1990 my brother David took his own life. I was 17 at the time and about to graduate high school. David was truly a dedicated Rush fan and loved Geddy, Neil and Alex. He introduced me to these three wonderful guys at the tender age of 11. Temple of Syrinx was my first song and I believe I imitated Geddy's voice just to get David to laugh. I fell head over heels for their magic and older "kids" would be impressed with my musical taste. I would explain to them that my big brother loves them and got me "into" them. Anyway, I wanted to see if there might have been a "sign" on this particular posting and maybe there was. After David passed away, life moved on as it always does. It's funny when a new album comes out, it's bittersweet and wonderful at the same time. I eventually got to meet and talk with Alex at Atlantic records. My friend JJ worked there at the time and Alex was promoting "Victor." (I had posted this thrilling experience a while ago.) He was very sweet and a gentleman. I had written them a letter explaining how their music always helped David through tough times and how much their music brought us together when my brother and I couldn't really talk about anything else. There was always music. There was always Rush. I also wrote to them I will continue to look at life "in the available light." I am now a music teacher and I try each day to instill the beauty of music in my students. Alex took the letter, I didn't write my return address. Hopefully they all read it and I pray that it will give Neil and his family some solace at their loss of Selena. Music truly can be a source of strength and therapy. This was very hard for me to write, but it's nice to know I can and people like yourselves can appreciate it. G/d bless and take care, and remember to never give up. Jennifer Anne Friedman (5/1/98) (SI, NY) 56384f96@student.csi.cuny.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Morisseau <joem@metrolink.net> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 18:22:58 -0400 Subject: Rush shows and improv and etc. I've been seeing quite a few posts about the lack of improv and the same old shows on the same tour, so I thought I'd comment on it. While I do see where people are coming from, disliking the way Rush puts on shows, I have to say, after all these years of them doing it, we should be use to it by now. You know it's gonna happen, just enjoy the fact that you still *can* see Rush. That they are still a band means much more to me, than what and how they care to play the music I love so much. Sure, it would be nice to have different songs played every night, but they haven't done that since the onset of Rush back in '74. On occasion they have changed the set a little on various tours, but not to any extent. Does that mean I'm not going to go see them as many times as I can? Nope. I saw them 10 times on T4E, 2 in FL 1st leg, 3 in CA 2nd leg, 1 in MA 2nd leg, and 4 in Canada 2nd leg including the last one in Ottawa. All great shows and I enjoyed ALL of them for various reasons. Sure, they had the same setlist, and same basic talk between songs, but they were all totally different at the same time. Alot of it had to do with the venues themselves. I saw the 2 FL shows in places I've never been to and Rush had never played in before. In fact, I think the Coral Sky Amphitheater is the first outdoor Rush concert in the state of Florida. Great show too! Being right up front in Tampa at the new Ice Palace was a blast, especially after the pre-show party :) Never being to a concert in CA was a trip too! I was kinda lost there, but still had a great time! As for the Great Woods show, definitely the most into it crowd on T4E I saw. Incredible. The band really was getting into it. Montreal was insane too. Was 9th row there, and listening to all the fans who only spoke french singing along with the songs in english (with a strong french accent!) was plain cool :) What can I say about the 2 Toronto shows, but the most awesome time I ever had. 4th row first night was intense, and front row (right in front of Lerxst!) on the 2nd night was a night I'll never forget!! Even got on the big screen during SOR :) No show will ever beat that for me. Then, after that I decided to continue on to Ottawa as I previously wasn't going to. Glad I did :) Scored a 10th row seat for it at the box office, and had a great time there too. As for the onstage antics, they do alot of the same things at many shows, but they also do alot of things other than the normal stuff, and that's what I enjoy. Alex's goofiness, Geddy's playing with the crowd, and getting to see Neil crack a smile or laugh at something. By the way, at the Ottawa show, it was a big fat guy in a grass hula skirt that came out during TS and was dancing in front of Neil. I think the crew sent him out there. The boys were cracking up watching it. Then they flashed shots of the crew on the big screen. It was totally hilarious, as were the dinosaur puppets in various costumes at the shows. Like I said, I'm all for improv and different songs each night, but I realize it isn't going to happen, so I enjoy the shows as they are. Seeing them every tour since PeW, I am use to it. I'm just happy to be seeing them play live! Someone also mentioned improv on the 2112 Seattle show. That was because Geddy broke a string. You can hear him re-tuning it at the end of that improv jam. It kinda sounds like an old Robin Trower tune. Under the Bridge or something like that. They also do that jam in the 2/18/80 soundcheck. A couple other improvs are in the 1/23/88 show and the 6/13/97 show. In the latter, Alex's wireless goes dead, so Ged and Neil do some country! Pretty cool :) {Rush-Mgr: Gotta say, although I like Show Don't Tell, I would have also liked to see Scars played again after the Presto tour. Killer tune! Also wish they would have played Cut to the Chase on CP or T4E, but oh well.... :) } It's now safe to turn off your computer... Joe ---------------------------------------------------------- From: cmoney2@juno.com (Chuck Flowers) Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 18:26:37 EDT Subject: Ticketmaster My favorite Ticketmaster practice is the "service charge sliding scale." For example, Ticketmaster's service charge on a $20 ticket is about 4 or 5 bucks. But for $75 Rolling Stone tickets, the service charge was between 10 and 12 bucks. How ridiculous is this when the Ticketmaster employees put in the same amount of (minimal) effort no matter what the face price of the ticket is. This really makes me wish Pearl Jam would have been successful in their efforts to undermine these fools. c money ---------------------------------------------------------- From: UberMar <UberMar@aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 18:28:26 EDT Subject: Ick So come back, Julien... all is forgiven, ~~~~~~~~~~~ Speak for yourself, Bud. I am sure I am not the only one enjoying the SexSock- free email. ~~~~~~~~~~~ and we all respect your right to an opinion that differs from our own. It's the right thing to do... ~~~~~~~~~~ Well, that is true. Mar ---------------------------------------------------------- From: UberMar <UberMar@aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 18:34:41 EDT Subject: Rush Stuff to Buy in Pittsburgh Hi. Pardon the local note. Today I went downtown to Hari Krishna's (pardon my spelling?) to browse for the first time in about 5 years. For sale they had 3 different Rush posters (two different RTB, and a HYF concert promo type of thing) ($9 each, what a rip off, but I bought one anyway) A RTB hat (12.99) Many shirts ($21) And 2112 and Rush (1st album style) logo stickers. ($3-$5) I was pretty happy to see it all. Mar ---------------------------------------------------------- From: uwe <uwe@hahn.RoBIN.de> Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 02:10:04 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Concertos in Europe? Grmbl, here I am, sitting in Germany and scrolling up and down the newspapers' concert listings. Sorry to see that there just does not seem to be a chance. Now that I have waited a time far too long since the last one, does anyone have any information about a tour to Europe? I'm on "turkey" :) Uwe - ][ Uwe Hahn http://www.robin.de/~uwe/ Linux? Yes! ][ ][ Spiel, Spaß, Spannung: http://www.robin.de/ ][ ][ Rödermark, Germany e-mail: uwe@hahn.RoBIN.de ][ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Aubrey_Hastings@w3link.com (Aubrey Hastings) Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 22:21:17 -0400 Subject: Re: 2112 issue >>I would like to cast my vote along with Craig, who said, "I think you >>should resend Issue 1 of the NMS. It would be nice to read some of the >>.original posts and see how different (or similar) they are. And it would >>make for a nice 'Retrospective' ". >> >>I think that would be a great idea. Cool idea!!!! [ Everyone can read the first issue of the NMS if they want by using the mail server... : rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Bex Elttil <BexElttil@aol.com> Wrote Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 17:37:23 EDT Subject: Re: The National Midnight Star #2112 >I would like to cast my vote along with Craig, who said, "I think you should >resend Issue 1 of the NMS. It would be nice to read some of the original posts >and see how different (or similar) they are. And it would make for a nice >'Retrospective' ". >I think that would be a great idea. Yes Please I'd love to read it, echoing, "A Great Idea!" Visit The Rush Desktop Themepark's Newsgroups, Chat Room And More at http://www.rushtastic.com or http://www.r-u-s-h.com Home of the Rush97 Screen Saver, or Vist Our FTP Server at ftp://www.rushtastic.com/pub R.G. Terrez ---------------------------------------------------------- From: david.p.murray@us.arthurandersen.com Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 23:17:14 -0400 Subject: Neil - Back in the Saddle? Hello- Well, its great to hear that Neil may very well indeed be back in the saddle and working on the live album packaging with Hugh. This is a very good sign that things may proceed as previously planned (before the "accident"). This sounds a bit selfish (of course it does), but I'm sure we all hope that Neil can pull through this and get back to writing and making the music we all love. If we see a new studio album, there was some discussion that Neil may or may not write about his recent experiences, I hope (and believe) he will do that in some way. I would be SHOCKED if he didn't. In most of the interviews done for the last few records, he has commented that he uses personal experiences in his writing as the "seed" (Nobody's Hero - there's more I'm sure but I'm brain dead at the moment) but he takes those "seeds" and creates a universal theme so that "most" of the listeners could relate to it. The song is not entirely personnel but the personnel experience is the basis for the universal theme of the song. That is why I THINK (why do I "think" like this) we could have another SIDE LONG piece (or the 10-15 min. range) if he choose to do it. NOT a side long piece about the death of his only daughter, but with that in mind, there could be numerous ideas and points to be made that could arise from it. Reflections, etc. Whatever, I hope you know what I mean. In response to a "Rockline 1991" question about the longer songs and would RUSH every write them again, he stated that it is not out of the realm of possibility if "the idea" was strong enough and the "guys" (Ged and Al) agreed as well, it could happen. I think if anytime was right, this could be it. This is definitely BIG enough. Just my humble opinion. Let's keep the flame throwers in the garage on this one (a request, not a command). dpm. "Everybody got to evelate from the norm" - Vital Signs. I love this song. It never occurred to me that Geddy was "deviating" from the norm in singing it this way (duh, what can you say? PSU rules!!!). Nice one, ? (forgot who pointed that out - you know who you are). BTW, does anyone find it remarkable that this song was in the setlist for 3 tours (MP, Signals and GUP). I do, and glad of it, my first show ever was GUP and that "beginning" was a great opener for the encore. I wish they'd bring it back (instead of Limelight - boo hiss, I know). ---------------------------------------------------------- From: david.p.murray@us.arthurandersen.com Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 23:39:16 -0400 Subject: Live Album and.........Video? Hello again- Well, the live album is happening. This is great news. Lets hope it sounds as good as Critical Mass. You all know what I mean. There has been no RECENT talk about a potential VIDEO on the list. Video, anyone? I'll get back to that. But first, it appears we are getting a 2CD (not 3CD - boo hiss) set with one being the new stuff (e.g. I see NO older material on this one at all-nothing before Presto). There are so many great songs from these last four albums that they will have a tough time figuring out which ones to keep and which ones to drop as it is. They do have tape from RTB as well I think so that's three tours. I would think since the other CD is from 1979, this will fulfill the OLD stuff requirement. Assuming the 1979 shows will be used, we should see Cygnus - Books I and II (if these are not on that disc, WE all will be.......well, you know), A Farewell to Kings, and other goodies we have and have not seen before on an official release. Thus........ >........if the above is true, then the VIDEO (there HAS to be a video, no?) will be from the "famed" first Toronto show on the second leg, which I was lucky enough to see with some of my Rush dudes (how's it going Dave and Dan). As you all know, that show was filmed, with the crane and all. If the same pattern holds (like the ASOH CD and video), we should see other songs here not on the CD. Including older songs, the encore, the ENTIRE 2112 and Natural Science (please if there is a GOD!!!!!)...........you get my drift. With the advent of DVD, this could be a 2 hour set - maybe longer (a little). MY HOPE, is that it will be. I will, therefore, be satisfied that both 2112 and Natural Science (which were totally AMAZING to see 9 times each) will be available for our listening and viewing pleasure for all eternity, as I see very little chance that they will be on the live CD. These are my hopes and dreams. I'm curious, does anyone have similar hopes and dreams, taking into consideration the mostly "likely" reality? LETS TALK VIDEO!!! dpm. ppppssss....Not sure if this has been mentioned, but it hit me the other day like a ton of bricks. Looking for a CD, I decided on Counterparts. I could never understand why the RUSH name was in "lower" case letters. Well, if you look at the album title it's plain as day. They are "counterparts". Check it out. rush COUNTERPARTS (as it appears). Pretty neat. I know, I'm about 4 years behind but hey, at least I DID figure it out on my own. Good night. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: DrumSci <DrumSci@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 02:22:59 EDT Subject: Rush plays covers Greetings fellow Rush fans. This is my first post and I'd like to address a few different threads. I saw them twice on the T4E tour (1st & 2nd leg) and Alex did do the same behind the amps joking. Again, nothing done by Rush seems left to chance. I too at times have found their shows rather sterile and dare I say...boring. Although the T4E shows were the best I had seen in years, It would be nice to see them loosen up a bit and change the arrangements of the songs or something. Believe it or not, I have been fortunate to witness some unexpected spontaneity at 2 shows: back in 1982 at the opening gig of the Signals tour they had just started a new song (Subdivisions I think) when Geddy's new fangled keyboard rig blew up or something. They stopped and after what seemed like eternity Neil started playing "Wipe Out!" Alex soon joined in and they played for a few minutes until the keyboards were back on. Then last year here in Milwaukee they had a similar equipment failure and launched into some old rock n' roll tune (can't remember the title). Has anyone else heard them play any cover tunes, etc. under similar circumstances? Addressing a post a while back concerning the next studio CD as probably being "dark" lyrically because of Neil's tragedy. If anything, I would expect the opposite! Neil has always written about how the human spirit can overcome whatever comes our way: "All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars." like any of us, he will get through this and go on with his life and his work. Now that Satan thing again!!! I thought that was put to rest ages ago. While I can't speak for the boys, if you read Neil's lyrics, the philosophy behind them is decidedly humanist. Much like Ayn Rand and others, that man is himself and responsible for his own actions. There are no outside forces (God/Satan) that control him. Enough of that Red Star thing!!! Thanks for the time...M Bettine/DrumSci@aol.com "No one leaves you when they live in your heart and mind. And no one dies, they just move to the other side" Marillion ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Dodd" <bikeman@vol.com> Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 12:16:15 -0400 Subject: Actor to play Alex I think Jeff Daniels (Dumb and Dumber, Fly Away Home-without the beard) would make a great "on-screen Alex. Now who should direct the film? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael vieira" <mykeypooh@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 11:23:29 PDT Subject: rush unplugged i am wondering if anybody else has a yearning the very core of their soul to have a rush unplugged album? it would IMHO be incredible. does someone here have the expertise to develop an online petition or something of that nature. then if we collected enough support for the album we could send to someone who could waggle it for the boys! hold your fire and presto touch my heart when i put them on. especially since my family has just learn of my father's cancer. he's really my second chance at a dad, a stepfather who loves me. in honor of him i have arranged "red tide for one acoustic guitar, and i play it for him now and again. those of you who don't like an album Rush have done, just chill out. many times i have grown into them. it may often be that rush has written something you can't relate to yet because life hasn't kicked enough shit out of you yet. rush unplugged.... i am definitely nobody's hero, god bless ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Piaz <alex.piaz@globalmap.com> Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 17:00:13 -0300 Subject: John Rutsey Interview Hi Folks!!! Please take a look at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Arena/9796/ I think that Jonh Rutsey has turn into madness A wave of my magic wand for all of you ALex ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Little Drummer Boy <reece@ONLINE.EMICH.EDU> Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 21:56:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: My Generation and Rush > I could think of a million words to describe the band? What 2 words > would anyone out there in TNMS land come up with?? Tom Sawyer ----------------------------------------------------------
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