The National Midnight Star #2018

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@yyz.com Subject: 04/27/98 - The National Midnight Star #2018
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IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALL READ THIS NOW- Presto Tour songlist stooges Caress Of Steel Re: Riverside what???? More accurate tour dates listing re: Sean Carroll Pop-Up Video Skipping Issue #2112 Re: opinion on Neil's videos Maple Leaf Gardens Columbus, Ohio Musicians pentagram (the truth) Re: 04/24/98 - The National Midnight Star #2017 front row seats THE 1998 RUSH TOUR couple-a-things Re: Jessica Henderson & Rush cds Re: Closing Maple Leaf Gardens STAGE CHATTER The presto debate "never stand still" Anyone REALLY know what's going on with them? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager) Date: Mon Apr 27 10:23:58 PDT 1998 Subject: Administrivia Lots of news and notes for this issue... First, the pop-up video thing. Pop-Up's web site is www.spinthebottle.com and it has a listing for the episode and also has a listing of airdates for each show up until May 9th. Good news: they're not only showing "Limelight" but the Tears Are Not Enough video (Geddy sang in this, but I don't remember if he's in the video or not). Here's the listing for episode #81: SHOW #81 - Canadian Invasion VIDEO ARTIST Sunglasses at Night Corey Hart Cuts like a Knife Bryan Adams Limelight Rush Keep on Rock'in Neil Young Tears are not Enough Northern Lights Bad news: best I can tell, the episode is not showing until AT LEAST May 10th, because it doesn't show up in the current schedule (through May 9th) which is odd considering they're showing episodes 86 & 84 on the 9th... Next, on the Maple Leaf Gardens closing, here's a direct article that scoots was able to dig up for me: >>Says Joe Pantalone, Chairman of the Board of Exhibition Place, ``Entering formal negotiations with Maple Leaf Gardens confirms our solid commitment to the revitalization of Exhibition Place. This project builds on the successes of the National Trade Centre and will bring more business opportunities and entertainment value to the site.'' The proposal is for a two-phase development, to begin after Exhibition Stadium is demo-lished. The first phase would use about 12.5 acres and include the construction and operation of the new 19,000 seat multi-purpose arena, a parking facility for 1,200 vehicles and other entertainment developments. The goal is to have the facilities operational for the first Leafs game in September 2000.<< So it sounds like MLG won't be torn down for a while, possibly not even until next year! Finally, REAL Rush news!! * Neil will begin work with Hugh on packaging for the live album, probably in mid-May * They also plan to start writting a new studio record later this year or early next year * They want to release the album in January of 2000 - rush-mgr ps. we're thinking about a San Diego Rush party sometime soon (before my old carpet is replaced ;-) anyone in San Diego or LA (or anywhere else that can get down to San Diego) feel like having a party? Drop me some email... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pierre Tessier" <PTESSI@lacitec.on.ca> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:01:19 EST Subject: Aaron Calder (Dream Theater) I am glad that you discovered Dream Theater, they are number 2 for me (guess who is number 1).... I know they did cover some Rush songs in the past and apparently Neil was not impressed with it. But Ill check with the people on theYtsejam mailling list and find out more about this and report to the NMS next week. They are currently touring in the US so check the web for dates if you want to cacht them live, they are like Rush live they usually dont deviate much from the original song. Salut... >...Living comes much easier, once you admit your dying.... Dream Theater Pierre Tessier Technologue, Medias et Technologie telephone:..................613-742-2493-3032 telecopieur:................613-742-2480 courrier electronique......ptessi@lacitec.on.ca ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ball, Bill" <Bill.Ball@hermann.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:31:18 -0500 Subject: rush sighting....hypocrites Was flipping through channels last night, and came across VH-1. They had some special on about sci-fi movies. They were talking about Terminator 2 and in the background they were playing Driven. Of course the band isn't good enough to make the top 100, but they can be used as background music. I still say we go down to their building and paint a few red stars on the building. Did anyone else happen to catch the show??? Bill ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Alexander Segura <asegura1@concentric.net> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:01:11 -0700 Subject: Hiwatt Speaker Cabinet Hello fellow Rush fans and musicians, I'm looking to find someone with a Hiwatt speaker cabinet for sale. I'm looking for one that has been manufactured between 1968 through 1978, I will however consider other years depending on condition and model. Do you have a Hiwatt Custom DR1003 from the same period you might part with as well? Write me at asegura1@concentric.net Thanks, Alex ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Corey Lawson" <clawson@checfs1.ucsd.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:24:09 -0700 Subject: Re: Xanadu tea... >From: seanj@execpc.com (Sean Jones) >Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:55:06 -0700 >Subject: Workin Fellas, bumperstikers, >Out here (I'm not too sure if it is anywhere else) a friend of mine >works at a coffee shop and they have Xanadu Tea. I went insane and >bought a whole box of it, it just sits in my room and I laugh at it... >Sorry... just thought I'd mention it...:) And the box has a picture of Olivia Newton-John on it from the movie, right? ------------------------------------- Corey Lawson 619-534-0886 clawson@ucsd.edu ------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan <dano@mail.sandridgebank.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:22:56 -0500 Subject: New Threads? Does anyone here have any cool jewlery (rings, earrings, etc.) that pertains to RUSH? How about tattoos? (It's not necessary to tell WHERE the tattoo is! =) ) And for my final thread idea, someone already beat me to it! Can you imagine that? >From: "Will Holt" <holtwm@gte.net> >Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:48:15 -0400 >Subject: Rush on 'Take the Hit' > >Anyone else hear the 'GO GEDDY!!!' at the beginning of the E...SL version of >YYZ? Who is that guy, anyway? :) Good topic, Will! Will the real GGG (Go Geddy Guy) please stand up? Dan-O "rising falling at force ten we twist the world and ride the wind" - Neil Peart/Pye Dubois ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Foushee, Lane Russell" <LRF0923@MAIL.ECU.EDU> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:05:40 -0400 Subject: playing 2112 << The 8 year old especially. He's been playing guitar for over a year now, and he literally kicks ass!!! We have a lot of fun together because I play bass, and we get to jam(he LOVES to play 2112--Overture & Temples).>> Damn! And here I am in college and I can't find anybody to jam out to 2112 with. Much less any other Rush songs. I'm also a bass player and portrayer. B.O.B. fastLane ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Werner" <Chad.Werner@ccmail.reliastar.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 7:15 -0600 Subject: <No subject> Let me get this out of the way. The 2112 red star. Oh christ, I can't believe I'm even going here.... Whether the band is satanic or wiccan or christians or space aliens doesn't matter. The penta-whatever doesn't prove anything; except that they liked poking at people's moral sensibility. Come on. They (along w/ Hugh) KNEW what they were doing in using the infamous red star; playing with satanic imagery for the symbol of the oppressive federation. The fact that we're still talking about it is proof of that. Mission accomplished, boys! Now, to make up for my contribution to the penta/satan/star/naked guy thread, here's a neat story! While traversing Wisconsin on my way back to college, I was driving through a thunder storm.... AND listening to Presto (the plot thickens). EXACTLY as the line "...electrical storm in your veins" was uttered, the hair on my arms stood up. A microsecond later, lightning struck the ditch to the right of my 1982 Plymouth Horizon. This is all true. It was rather spectacular. Chad P.S. My 1982 Plymouth Horizon was called "the Happy Snacker" (ask if you care - NOTHING to do with Rush). ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Rushian953 <Rushian953@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:20:37 EDT Subject: Rush has lost some of their sound and style!! Hey There Rushianites!!!!! I have noticed that the last two albums do not exactly sound like rush. I tuned into a local radio station here in maine, and it was Driven, but for the life of me I could not think of who wrote it, personally, I love rush, but I can't get over this. It seems like geddy has lost his voice alittle and not nearly as orchestrated as their music in the past, What I am triing to say is it is not totally Rush!!! If you agree do not hesitate to e-mail me!!!!!!! As they say in Maine...................it is not a car, but a kah!!!!!so lets take the kah to bah habaa (Bar Harbor). L8R Joe ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Villasana" <refab@neptune.ConnectI.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:58:02 -0500 Subject: Re:San Antonio Concert Promotion Yesterday I recieved a very well done fold out flyer in the mail. It = was a promotion for 99.5 KISS radio station advertising 6 concert fly = away packages. They called it a six pack of concert flyaways. There = was paicture of the top of a six pack in the graphics. Each can had a = name of a concert. Included were Pearl Jam, Metallica, Ozzfest, Van = Halen, Robert Plant/Jimmy Page, and ....RUSH. There's also mention of = a seventh concert with the Rolling Stones at Wembly stadium. =20 This is probably one of the nicest advertisements I have ever recieved = from them. I have to disagree with the Rush Mgr on this one, I don't = think that this is just DJ hearsay. I don't think they would go ahead = with a promotion of this scale, include RUSH, and not have some = inkling of what they are talking about. =20 John (refab) Villasana ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wayne Tapia" <wtap@email.msn.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:21:28 -0700 Subject: Rush as a back-up band? Now before any of you get your panties in a twist, this is only a dorky attempt at a thread, so please don't get offended or bent out of shape because you think it's stupid (I already know it's stupid). You know how sometimes solo artists will use established bands as back-up for tours or limited engagement shows (for example: Chuck Berry w/ the E street band, Eric Clapton w/ The Robert Cray Band, that sort of thing). I was listening to Peter Gabriel's "Secret World Live" CD the other day, and thought that it could be kind of cool to see the boys backing someone like Gabriel. Any other Ideas from out in Rushland? BTW, hey rush mgr, I found a bunch of stubs from Seattle / Tacoma shows from MP to the present. Need any scanned? You may have some of these already, so I just thought I'd ask. [ I want ANY AND ALL ticket stub scans, even if I already have them!! : rush-mgr ] "...I'll kill you..." Psycho from "Stripes" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: sara olson <sara.olson@snet.net> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:36:04 +0000 Subject: IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALL READ THIS NOW- As a RUSH fanatic for 19 years I would never post anything I thought was bogus. After about 10,000 times listening to Alien Shore, I swear it hit me when I started hearing unclear speaking or chanting during the last instrumental section-you almost have to not even listen to the music-JUST KEEP HITTING REWIND-Who is it and what is he saying-it's like a very muffled version of "we have assumed control" or something. How can we decipher this? I am convinced there is some kind of hidden chanting or message at the last instrumental section on ALIEN SHORE. I am not the only one who is convinced. It's not guitar or keyboard, reverb, or echo either. "This is a song about a town right down the road from here...as a matter a fact we drove though it on our way here tonight.....this-is......., Middletown Dreams....."Power Windows Tour/Hartford CT ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Hansen <Eric@americanwebinc.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:45:46 -0600 Subject: Presto Tour songlist Here is the song list for the Presto tour, taken from NMS #99. I have also read somewhere that during the pre-tour shows or sound checks, Lerxst tried to do Presto but couldn't get it right and gave up in frustration. Too many overdubs, etc. Needless to say, where I read that, I cannot recall. - Presto Tour -- The Big Money (played before April 3) Closer to the Heart Distant Early Warning Drum Solo Force Ten Freewill In The Mood Intro La Villa Strangiato Manhattan Project Marathon Mission The Pass Red Barchetta Scars Show Don't Tell The Spirit of Radio (played April 3 and after) Subdivisions Superconductor Time Stand Still Tom Sawyer 2112 Overture Xanadu War Paint YYZ 'Nuff said. By the way, Holy Bitch, I have to say the mail server is awesome. [ Thanks, glad you like it! Too bad I'm still missing some of the older digests, I wasn't able to get them off before retiring the old yyz.com machine... one of these days I'll resurrect it and get them off. They're all on the web page though ;-) : rush-mgr ] Hanstones ---------------------------------------------------------- From: cmoney2@juno.com (Chuck Flowers) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:22:46 EDT Subject: stooges It appears that Alex did the 3 Stooges thing at every Rush show, and I know he did the 3 times I saw the Test For Echo Tour. The fact that he did the same gimmick at every show leads to a major complaint about Rush concerts: lack of spontaneity. The Stooges thing is suddenly not so funny when I realize that he does it every night. It's kind of like when I saw Van Halen a couple of years ago and Sammy came out in a Houston Rockets jersey. Most on the crowd tripped out because of the jersey, failing to realize that he would be wearing a Spurs jersey the next night in San Antonio. By the time I saw Test For Echo for the 3rd time, I was quite bored with it all (were you bored too, Codeman?) because I knew exactly what I was getting. In addition to using the same jokes, they also use the same set list for the entire tour (with maybe 1 or 2 substitutions along the way). Although I will always still catch Rush shows when they are in my area, it is not as much fun as some of the other shows that I really look forward to. My favorite bands to see live (such as FNM, Bosstones) always come in with the crowd wondering what they are gonna see and hear different that night. Maybe half the set list is written in stone and the other half is written right before the show. This makes the anticipation many times greater for me and that is an important part of the concert-going experience. I feel like Rush is a well planned theatrical production and have lost much of what Rock & Roll is to me: spontaneity and live improvisation. I think they are the greatest recorded group ever, but the live show is somewhat lacking. c money ---------------------------------------------------------- From: YAguirre <YAguirre@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:24:05 EDT Subject: Caress Of Steel In response to Kate Collins' query about the meaning of "COS" - IMHO, as a guitar player, caress of steel = playing a guitar (or bass). Electric guitars and basses are strung with steel strings, and the act of playing the instrument can be described as a "caress", hence the title. Yuri ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Questa <jamesq@one.net> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Riverside what???? Lot's of mis-information here - I thought I'd set the story straight. The venue that the original poster was talking about is the Riverfront Colisium <sorry for the spelling - sue me ;-)> For the longest time, it was the ONLY venue, aside from the Cincinnati Gardens, that would hold rock concerts of any real size. This is situated next to Riverfront Stadium - renamed Cinergy Field just over a year ago - but rarely have they held rock concerts there - only the Rolling Stones - Kool Jazz Festival - large draws. Riverfront Colisium was the sight of the Who Concert Tragedy - where 11 (I think) people were trampled to death. The insurance rates for the Colisium became so high for musical events, most promoters stopped booking shows there. Since the construction of Riverbend Music Center - our outdoor venue - most rock shows would skip Cincinnati during the winter months so they could play at Riverbend in the summer. And besides, the Achoustics really DID suck. RC was purchased by a group of investors (As the venue was privately constructed - not a city owned building) and renamed the Crown. The venue has been completely refurbished, and it's my understanding (from some knowledgeable sources) that the achoustics are MUCH better now. Nedderlander Entertainment (who also books for Riverbend Music Center) has become partners with the investors, and MANY shows of all kinds are scheduled and held there now. It appears that Riverfront Stadium is headed for the wrecking ball shortly. A new Football complex will be built down on the riverfront West of the current facility - Baseball only facility looks like it will end up on the east side of Downtown - the Crown will remain at it's current location. there ya go - more information than ya wanted to know about Cincinnati Venues. ;-) Jim - _________________________________ ___ | | | \ Jim Questa - Unix Shell | jamesq@one.net | | \ http://w3.one.net/~jamesq/ |_______________________________|_|_____| Questa Songworks / Bad Habit (_)(_) (_)(_) (_) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Hansen <Eric@americanwebinc.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:47:20 -0600 Subject: More accurate tour dates listing Rush mgr: in cross checking some of the dates of the bootlegs I have with the dates listed in NMS 99, I found many discrepencies. Is this listing accurate? Is there a more up to date listing somewhere? [ The list featured in #99 was our VERY FIRST attempt at something that had never been done before (at least that we knew of ;-) -- a *complete* listing of every date Rush has ever played! The most up-to-date list is on the NMS web site, under "Tour Dates Listing". If you haven't seen it, check it out! We've even put in links under dates that we have ticket stubs/fliers/newspaper articles/pictures for. : rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Russell J. Thorpe" <rthorpe@tir.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:15:10 -0400 Subject: re: Sean Carroll Wow man, You are so cool. If you are getting sick of posts, unsuscribe. I personally am getting sick of all the people that bitch. Some folks won't post anything but bitch lists about other posts. If you don't like it, don't read it. You have a scroll bar in your mail program.... USE IT! Of the many people on NMS, I am sure that yopu can't get everyone of them to agree with every post. <Enter: Sarcasm> But, maybe I am wrong. Maybe you are the one collective mind for the whole mailing list. EVERYONE communicates with you through telepathy, and you speak for everyone. If this is not the case, Shut the hell up! One other thought, If you don't like the way the Rush Mgr. manages this list, MAKE YOUR OWN! Then you can put in only the posts you wish to read! You could even be the only one who posts, and then you can argue with yourself about the dumb posts. l8r, Russell Thorpe ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fred Kessler" <fkessl1@uic.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:25:46 -0500 Subject: Pop-Up Video Hey, Rush will, indeed be on Pop-Up Video, Episode #81. The question is = when? If you go to www.popupvideo.com, they have air dates for all of the = shows they do, but guess what? Their list is not current; it only is current up to = April 12. I just e-mailed them to see when the hell they will air that show (called "Canadian Invasion"). I will get back to you if/when they get back to me. Fred ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fred Kessler" <fkessl1@uic.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:31:50 -0500 Subject: Skipping Issue #2112 Kevin Said: >Don't know if this has come up before, but I propose that we simply = skip issue #2112. I think that if we skip issue #2112, then we should go all the way. For = example, if you are at some store, and your bill comes to $21.12, then = you should just walk out of the store without making the purchase. Or = if your ATM password is 2112, you can no longer use the ATM Machines. Just a thought. Fred ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "John J. Hathaway" <jhath@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:44:59 -0600 Subject: Re: opinion on Neil's videos WARNING: Long post with little actual Rush content. > From: Brooke YOOL <yool@cgl.ucsf.edu> > Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:44:00 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: opinion on Neil's videos > > Hey folks -- <snip> > <BLARING OPINION ALERT! VOOT VOOT!> Now, I'll admit to, in the past, > having thought that drummers have excellent rhythm but don't know a whole > lot about music itself, since they don't actually play notes. Thanks to > reading NMS and watching these vids, my opinion has changed. Yeah, there > are the drumemrse (a la Hanson) who do bare-minimum, let's keep the beat > playing. Then there are folks in the Neil category, who make drumming a > work of art just as any top-notch guitarist, bassist, what have you. I'd like to make a couple of comments regarding this post. First, welcome to enlightenment Brooke, glad you could join us. As a musician who plays the drums, I'm obviously sick of the bad drummer jokes out there , e.g. Definition of a band: 3 musicians and a drummer. Drummers, like other musicians, posess a wide variety of musical tastes as well as skillsets. I think any honest observer would agree that there are equally egregious examples of musical overkill (or monotony) displayed by guitarists, bassists and keyboardists. Just as music can be reduced to lowest common denominator status by plodding, unimaginative parts, soo too can it be reduced to a mere technical exercise by those refusing to show any restraint in the construction of parts and solos. While interesting as a showcase for technical ability, such displays can hardly be called musical. Rush, like other progressive rock bands, has occasionally walked a very fine line between musicality and bombast. I credit our heroes with a great deal of restraint for choosing music over technical exercises. When you have the kind of chops they have it's very hard not to want to show them off constantly. Don't forget, however, that in rock music one of the crucial elements of a song is the 'feel' or 'groove' that underlies it. I don't mean this in the 'Superconductor' sense but as a larger measure of what makes a great song. The drummer provides the direction to produce this feel or groove, and the complexity of a part is usually inversely proportional to the feel of the song, unless you posess the awesome talents of a Neil Peart, etc. Listen to a Boz Scaggs song called "Lido Shuffle", from the Silk Degrees album (showing my age there) as an example of a song with a very non-embellished (don't call it simple) drum part that absolutely grooves as if there's no tomorrow. I could listen to that track for hours without getting tired of it. The drummer was Jeff Porcaro, who sadly is no longer with us. Another example, famous in drumming circles, is Steve Gadd's groove on Paul Simon's "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover." This part is more complex without losing any of the groove. So please, don't confuse technical ability (actually, Gadd and Porcaro have/had loads of it) with musical skill. While chops can help facilitate good music, musicianship means a lot more than how fast you can play. After all, a guy named Ringo did pretty well with one bass drum and two toms. John P.S. Cut Hanson some slack. I know quite a few drummers who don't have as much groove as that kid does. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeffrey Balog <JBALOG@drew.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:47:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Maple Leaf Gardens Can anyone from Toronto confirm if in fact the Maple Leaf Garden will be closing? Where will the new home of the hockey team be? If the Garden is to close in the very near future, wouldn't construction of a new arena be nearing completetion by now? I doubt that the Maple Leaves will be leaving Toronto for a new city. Certainly there would been a lot of talk about this move or proposed move. Unfortunately, I think this fall show is just a rumour. Jeff [ Read the article in the administrivia above, I think it answers your questions. : rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Shapiro <shapiro.27@osu.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:06:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Columbus, Ohio Musicians I'm a drummer in the Columbus, Ohio area looking for a guitarist and bassist to play Rush stuff with. Anyone interested?? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: denimking@juno.com (z z z) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:20:09 -0500 Subject: pentagram (the truth) if you're debating the fact that Rush is a satanic band by the pentagram on the cover of 2112, you're highly mistaken, and obviously don't know what a pentagram means. the star is what makes it a pentagram. the points all have a meaning. since i can't remember the exact meaning of each line and point is, but i know the overall meaning. it starts by going down (man's attraction to the devil), and ends by going up (man's ascension from the attraction to the devil). that's if it points up, which it does on the cover of 2112. if you don't believe what i say, look it up in a witchcraft, alchemy, or black magic book. adam "If at first you don't succeed, it's probably someone else's fault." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Super Dave" <superdave18@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:01:54 EDT Subject: Re: 04/24/98 - The National Midnight Star #2017 I'd be interested in talking to anyone who was at any of the Rush shows that I've seen over the past few years. I wish I'd gotten to see more, but alas, this is the best I've been able to do since 1990: Roll The Bones -- Albany, NY (12-12-91) & New Haven, CT (3-14-92) Counterparts -- Albany, NY (5-03-94) & Worcester, MA (3-12-94) Test For Echo -- Boston, MA (9-09-96) --------------------------------------------- EMAIL: superdave18@hotmail.com URL: http://www.angelfire.com/fl/retrospective ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary and Rhonda" <garyj@coredcs.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:26:19 -0500 Subject: front row seats I have one wish!!! To get front row seats for a Rush concert!!!!(better yet backstage passes). I've seen Rush a number of times at all different angles, but never really close up. Could any of you fellow Rush fans Help me out??? How does one get front row or backstage passes????? [ One gets very VERY lucky, and knows a guy who is also very lucky who wins front row tickets and doesn't know anyone in town to bring but you! ;-) : rush-mgr ] Thanks Gary Garceau ---------------------------------------------------------- From: KOPTIS@webtv.net (Mark J. Lanzilla) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:18:24 -0400 Subject: THE 1998 RUSH TOUR To the Rush mgr. and all on this listing==== I personally called the dj at KISS in San Antonio to confirm this Rush tour stuff.. in his words==== They are, as a prize, going to send 2 people to Toronto to see Rush in the fall. this is no joke!!!! They were giving away various trips to see different bands so=======THAT'S THE FACT,JACK!! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Lambert <raylamb@world.std.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:29:50 -0400 Subject: couple-a-things [lurker mode off] > There is a Rush show planned before the closing of historic Maple Leaf's > Garden. No details if this is a one shot, a tour kick off, or what. > More details later. > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Kevin Vargas > kevinv@kissrocks.com Has anyone thought to check what the schedule is for the closing of MLG? Or, to even verify that it's closing, for that matter? I don't doubt that it's closing but, if you find out it isn't, then that proves for certain that there's no show. If it is closing, then that establishes a time frame for a potential show. Perhaps someone from MLG can verify some of this? [ Check the article above. They ARE demolishing MLG at some point, but it might not be until next year. : rush-mgr ] Also, I've noticed that when big venues like this close their doors they usually have one big bash to close it with a bunch of celebs who have a history with the venue. Considering this, I think it is VERY likely that Rush may show up at the 'closing bash' and maybe even bang-out a song or two with a minimal set-up. That may very well be the extent of this MLG show. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Regarding the red star controversy: Hugh Syme said it pretty plainly in the interview blurb that was posted: The naked man represents the hero of the story (and the movement he creates) and the star represents the oppressive Solar Federation. Taken together, the man and the star symbolize the CONFLICT BETWEEN THE TWO, nothing more. Specifically, it does not imply ANYTHING about any potential resolution to the conflict. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Regarding the playing of Presto on the Presto tour: Someone (I forget who it was) has asserted that Presto was played in Providence and Worcester. I cannot speak for the remainder of the tour, however, I was at both the Providence and the Worcester shows and I can AUTHORITATIVELY state that Presto WAS NOT PLAYED AT EITHER VENUE. The person who asserted this was mistaken and possibly confused the song Presto with some other song, as has been suggested. The reason I am so certain about this is because of circumstances that existed around the time of the two shows. The local Providence radio station, WHJY, supported the Presto album VERY STRONGLY. Probably the only Rush album they supported more strongly was Moving Pictures! One of the reasons for this strong support was that the song Presto had become a pretty large hit on the station. One of their DJs (who is no longer with them) was called Rick OB, and he was probably the biggest supporter. He was very excited when Rush came to town and he made no bones about it. After the show, we (i.e. me and my friends) were all very disappointed that The Boys did not play Presto, and Rick OB was also very unhappy about it; he even made several comments on the air about it. I had the impression that he actually felt slighted over it since he and the station had promoted the song and the show so strongly. The station still plays Rush (one of the few in the area that do, in fact) but they've never supported them that strongly again. So, after all this, you could say that the experience left an indelible impression on me and I have not forgotten it since. BTW, I suspect that the reason Rush has never played the song is because of the very-difficult-to-reproduce switching between electric and acoustic guitars in the song. Even with The Omega Concern's funky acoustic guitar stand, this song would be a bear to play live! It would probably be much easier to play now with the funky new electric/acoustic guitar that Alex used on the TFE tour. (Sorry, I forgot the name of it.) So, maybe they'll include it in the set on the next tour??! We can only hope.... [lurker mode on] ############################################################################## Helluva way to travel... scatter a man's molecules all over the universe! -- bones Helluva way to communicate... scatter a message's octets all over cyberspace! -- me ############################################################################## ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Beaman <cudmb5@panther2.pen.eiu.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:03:45 -0500 Subject: Re: Jessica Henderson & Rush cds >I personally think that Rush should come out with a new cd. My dad >is always wanting to just get more of their music. I have never heard >any radio station play Rush on the radio recently. I guess they just >haven't had the time because of what's going on with Neil Peart and >his daughter. I'm just thinking that rush should come out with more >cds for more people to appreciate their music more and I'm sure that >everybody that visits this site often, would definitely buy their new >cd-if there is another one. This is my father's e-mail but I had to >post it after reading it. If rush decides to come out with another cd >my dad will be the first person to buy it. > Jessica Henderson Jessica: I couldn't agree more. Nice post!! Marty ---------------------------------------------------------- From: James MacLachlan <hopeflguy@sprint.ca> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 20:38:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Closing Maple Leaf Gardens Hey folks: I have been reading about this "K.I.S.S." radio station saying that Rush will be playing Maple Leaf Gardens when it closes. Well, there are a few things to remeber here first. I live in Toronto, and KNOW that there is no "scheduled" date for the closing of Maple Leaf Gardens. (I think Torontonians would know aboult this one!!)First off, they STILL haven't chosen a new arena site. (They are currently building a site for the Toronto Raptors basketball team, but STILL have not come up with a location for a new arena for the Toronto Maple Leafs.) So, there will be a new arena for the Tor. Maple Leafs, but that would be a fair time down the road. Unless, this radio station knows something the rest of T.O. doesn't, this doesn't sound like something that will happen in the near future. If anybody else has accurate info, please post. James MacLachlan hopeflguy@sprint.ca ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "C.N. Ramirez" <ramirecn@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:07:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: STAGE CHATTER the closest i've come to seeing rush live is on the 2 live videos. my question is how much does the band chat with the audience? in exit stage left geddy said hello and mentioned that they'd be doing stuff from a few albums etc etc. and on the album, all the world's a stage, he screams at the audience sometimes "i want to see all your hands!" do they still do this kind of stuff or do they just play their songs and prance about? +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ + Ulric Reginald Simon Ramirez (1921-97). Rest In Peace, Daddy. + + Yvonne Gayle Antoinette born December 30th, 1997, my daughter. + + + + The Canadian Diabetic Association Christian Ramirez + + 1-800-BANTING Please give. Hamilton, Ontario + +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: hlrush19@idt.net (Hang Lee) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: The presto debate Once and for all, let's settled the debate: I know they didn't played that song on the Presto tour esp. at Worcester centrum in May, 1990 (god, my memory is good on Rush). It may have been mistaken as Presto, but the song does not sound like presto. Also, another evidence of this: I had a bootleg videoof the phillie show (lost it, Damn!!!) and i certainly did not see or hear presto played live. In short they played five tracks from that album (the last LP released by the boys): Show don't tell, the pass, war paint, scars, and superconductor, not much in terms of new material. It might hAve been different around the country, so I'm not doubting. But since Rush is a tight band with an unchanging setlist, I honestly don't think they did so. Hang ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott McDow <mcdow@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 23:17:06 -0400 Subject: "never stand still" Hey! I just had to say: Craig'sVirtual Concert Hall just made available a T4E title "Never Stand Still". Entire concert from Albany, NY October 19th 1996, opening night. I'm listening to Driven live for the first time since the second leg. remember: Ged gettin' all funky on the bass line, then tossing in a 90 sec bass solo? It does rock! Sound quality is about a 7 mainly for the audience noise (which is pretty funny in it's own way!). I did have to max the treble and back off on the bass some to get the best sound but overall this title is worth it. If you get winamp (freeware) you can get all 23 songs. The Virtual Concert Hall will close for the summer starting May 6th. So get it soon I guess. I'm I no way connected to the VCH just a user. Thanks Craig. "there's no mistakes, just new parts!" -Geddy later scoots OH- To Jessica Henderson who posted on her dad's e-mail- I'm with you Jessica I would also like to see more cd's by your dad's favorite band. You will have to tell him that he has to get in line *behind* me though. I'm sure he won't mind being the second person do buy it! What a cool post that was by J- gotta go ---------------------------------------------------------- From: BRAVADO 69 <BRAVADO69@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 23:25:08 EDT Subject: Anyone REALLY know what's going on with them? This San Antonio radio station seems to swear that Rush will playing in Toronto sometime later this year and that there may be a tour. Obviously, all evidence would seem contrary except that they are so adament about this and it is part of a 6 show giveaway where the other 5 are legit (Van Halen, Metallica, Pearl Jam...). On all of this list, isn't there ANYONE who either is close to the band, or knows someone close to the band who could give all of us the REAL STORY on their plans? Rush's fans have been very loyal over the years to them and I don't think it would be asking too much in return for them to come out with some kind of statement as to their status and their plans over the next year or two so that we don't have to keep speculating, spreading wild rumors, and be left in suspense. Is there anyone on this list that has access to the band and can find out the real story once and for all? I think we are all entitled to that and I don't think the band should take their loyal fans for granted, especially in this day and age where musical tastes change with the wind. ----------------------------------------------------------
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