The National Midnight Star #1994

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@yyz.com Subject: 03/23/98 - The National Midnight Star #1994
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Re: other favorite drummers questions and answers Re: Rate The Musicians Average age of NMSer My 2 cents on the pub.... Top 5 drummers Samuel Daigle Virgins for the Secret Society Crashing the stage continued. Rush: the magic of the internet Julien SHUT UP!! What might be included from H. Odeon Show (2nd live disk) new bootleg Drum Debate RES: Unreleased Rush songs RE: The Rush SecSoc C-Money = sexist slob Re: 03/20/98 - The National Midnight Star #1992 Re: Rush, of course Fave drummers/top 10 (non-Rush) albums Re: 03/20/98 - The National Midnight Star #1992 disconnected comments Re: Fav. Drummers... Julien, Julien, Julien . . . Alex? Rush songs for a wedding Body Electric Exit Stage Left... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager) Date: Mon Mar 23 14:50:03 PST 1998 Subject: Administrivia Although the Rush news has been sparse lately, here's a few tibits courtesy of $ean & Emmet Swimming: - Alex is working on a follow-up to Victor - Geddy is looking for some projects of his own in the next few months - The fate of the band is still up in the air. The live album will be released, but nothing is certain after that. (and please don't start up rumors about how Rush is/will be breaking up because THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM SAYING) - rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Art Brown <artbrown@naxs.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:16:12 -0500 Subject: MTV introduced me to Rush ?! I have to admit, seeing Rush on MTV was the reason I went out and bought Hold Your Fire. One cold winter morning in early 1988, I was at home sick (or playing sick to avoid going to school) when I saw the video for Lock and Key on MTV. I was so impressed by Rush's sound, I went out that night (after a miraculous recovery) and I bought the Hold Your Fire cassette. Go figure. eMpTyV was responsible for my introduction to Rush. Art Brown in my simple 3 cd changer: 1. Rush - Hemispheres 2. Cowboy Junkies - Lay It Down 3. Squirrel Nut Zippers - Hot! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Timmyweb <Timmyweb@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:09:29 EST Subject: Bill Bungle & live records >From TNMS #1992, Randy Campbell lists his favorite drummers.This is his #4: <"Bill Bradford [SIC] Ohhh... YES! Can't say enough."> Can't say enough, and can't say it right. It's Bill Bruford. By the way, I dig your list of drummers. bye for now, timmy ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Super George Reimers <ferndoc@rocketmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:37:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Covers... First off, with Metallica doing "Driven", it wouldn't be "Mother F******g driven to the edge of a deep, dark hole, Motherf****r!" It would be "Driven to the edge of a motherf*****g hole.....YEAH!" :) On to the covers: Ani Difranco doing "Cold Fire" ("A man talking to a woman and she's smarter than him." -Neil Peart) Were Freddie Mercury alive, Queen doing "Xanadu". NiN doing "Witch Hunt". Offspring doing "Dog Years" (Geddy DID say ",It's a bit punky.") Victor doing "Limbo". (Please tell me you saw that coming.) Pink Floyd doing "Limbo". Primus doing "La Villa Strangiato". (hehehehehehehehehe...) Metallica doing 2112. Dave Matthews doing Roll the Bones, with John Cleese on the "rap." Dream Theater doing "Time and Motion." Soundgarden doing "Stick it Out." Dreamline with Eric Johnson on guitar, Ani Difranco on Vocals, Mike Portney on drums, Jason Newsted on bass, and a symphony instead of synths. KI$$ doing Different Strings (DON'T FLAME ME IT'S JUST A JOKE) One more thing- If you go see "Titanic", pay attention to the music at the part where Kate Winslet (babe) is looking at the Statue of Liberty. It sounds a little like Test for Echo. George === "If there's order in all of this disorder, is it like a tape recorder?" - U2, "Wake Up Dead Man" I don't know that's wrong with my television set. I was getting C-Span and the Home Shopping Network on the same station. I actually bought a congressman. - Bruce Baum ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott E. Blackman" <rush4th@airmail.net> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:36:03 -0600 Subject: "Lyric Sightings?" I know fellow RUSH folk submit exciting news of a purchase or change which result in the number 2112, but how often do you see or witness a RUSH lyric in the world?? Those who have played the game Warcraft II should know of one of the cheat commands which is sure to be the result of the programer's love of RUSH. For those who who want to learn of another great presence, though indeed obscure, the words are this: "glittering prizes". This is the cheat command in the game to award you vast sums of riches. If you don't know the game, go get it. It is excellent. Also, how many of you have a square picture disk of Roll the Bones? Besides the tune, there is also an interview with Alex. Paid $10.00 for it a while back. It is from the U.K. For a truly excellent time visit the site for Little Green Men, a group of guys who have excellent origanals and are also able to play over 25 RUSH tunes......WELL! http://members.aol.com/xanaxtaxi/index.html "Thankyou very kindly,goodnight!!" rush4th@aol.com or rush4th@airmail.net ---------------------------------------------------------- From: CamMan123 <CamMan123@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:59:40 EST Subject: Re: Presto <<< Now, as for Rush content, I've been making my way back around to Presto again as of late, and I was wondering that, when listening to this album, does anyone find themselves cranking up the bass and turning down the treble, just to get the sound to *resemble* the rockingness of albums like Grace Under Pressure and Test 4 Echo?? (and before you flame me, let me state that if I have to capitalize the word God, I'm sure as hell NOT abbreviating Rush album titles, so dont remind me! :)) This album (Presto) sounds awfully unsubstantial unless I max out the bass and crank the hell out of it.... >>> Absolutely. While Presto is my favorite Rush album, I always have to do some tweaking of the bass and treble to get it sounding not too tinny (even moreso with Roll The Bones). Well, that and set it to skip War Paint and Superconductor... [ Hey, I *like* War Paint (except the repeating chorus at the end... once was quite enough thank you) : rush-mgr ] Cam ---------------------------------------------------------- From: CamMan123 <CamMan123@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:05:47 EST Subject: Re: Age <<< And now to something completly different: I thought about the average age of the Rush-fans (or the people at TNMS). What will it be? My bet is: far beyond thirty! Am I right? >>> Okay, I'll bite. As of today, 24 Cam ---------------------------------------------------------- From: NakedAspn1 <NakedAspn1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:19:05 EST Subject: Re: Where is Middle Town? If any one cares...the is also a Middletown, IA. Its in SE Iowa, west of Burlington on highway 34. Thats My 2 cents --Smoke :^P ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phelan" <eric@dbsa.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:29:34 -0500 Subject: Fav Musicians Hmmm....good question man :) I love the guitar...so i have a ton of favs in this category...Hendrix = and Stevie Ray Vaughan tie for first in my list...they can do some = amazing stuff with the fretboard...Joe Satriani is awesome as well. = Clapton is good as well...and...lets see...oh yeah, Lifeson (of course), = David Guilmore, George Thorogood and Robben Ford...i love the blues :) = and Rush too of course :) Bass is hard, because i havent really paid that much attention to = it...mostly to the drums and guitar. Geddy is great....i think Rush is = the only band that i know of where i can actually hear the bass without = too much struggle. =20 Drums...Neil Peart, Carl Palmer...two of the best players ever...both of = them are really progressive i think. Phil Collins is also a good one... I might toss this one into the mix...what about piano/keyboards? Reese = Wynans, Dr John and Keith Emerson are my personal favs... Cheers ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Elias Granillo, Jr." <upnsm0ke@gte.net> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:34:07 -0800 Subject: Ongoing Drummer Debate... > From: "John E. Heald" <healdia@pacbell.net> > Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 04:14:59 -0800 > Subject: The ongoing drummer debate... > > Michael, you have great taste! Barrimore Barlow also worked with Kerry > Livgren on his first solo release, great player. I'd also add Mike > Mangini (ex-extreme), Mike Sturgis (Asia, Wishbone Ash, 21 Guns), Ken > Mary (House of Lords, Impellitteri) and the guy who plays for Talisman. > Tourniquet's drummer, Ted Kirkpatrick, is also terrific. His style > reminds me most of Neil (...so we will have SOME Rush content). E-man, > way to wreak havoc with my credibility! (...as if I had any to begin > with) ;^)> Oh, you love it! Kirkpatrick kicks ass! Yo! I got three words for y'all: Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance! E-Boyeeeeeeeeeee ---------------------------------------------------------- From: aj153@freenet.carleton.ca (David Watson) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:47:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: Tom Sawyer rap The rap song that samples "Tom Sawyer" is Young Black Teenagers' "Time to Make the Dough Nutz" on the album _Dead Enz Kidz Doing Lifetime Bidz_. Biz Markie also gave the song props in an article in Spin on great breaks to rap over. - Dave Watson, Severed Heads Liberation Front (Re-release the _Stretcher_ EP!) Frezier Balzoff (Ottawa), Ontario, Canada Email--aj153@Freenet.carleton.ca My music and anime webpage: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/4207/ ONTARIO--Where FASCIST PRAGMATISM and DEFICIT HYSTERIA pass for COMMON SENSE. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:55:50 -0800 Subject: Peart and Shakespeare >Rob Savoury said: >a lot of people give Peart credit for things he did not write. >Prime example...a few days ago someone wrote a letter and as a >sub-script used a quote from limelight that reads as follows > All the world's indeed a stage > and we are merly player's > performers and portrayer's > each anothers audience > outside the guilded cage >They proceeded to credit this quote to Neil Peart when,in actual fact >it is a quote from Shakespere. I hope I'm not totally off-base here, but I recall Shakespe(A)re's quote as "All the world's a stage and all the men and women merely players. They perform their roles..." I'm not positive, but that's the gist. And old Bill swiped it from Bacon anyway. NOT quite the same as Neil's bit. And it's "gilded" cage--as in covered in gold, not built by a guild. Anyone heard the hilarious rumor that Shakespeare wrote the 47th Psalm? e-me for details. mike "Is anal retentive two words or just one, and if only one, is it hyphenated?"--Mad Mike http://www.2112.net/daggers ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Hanstones <Hanstones@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 00:24:37 EST Subject: Capture my thoughts and carry them..... Thanks to Erik DePoy for nominating me for the Syrinx. By the way, Erik, the checks in the mail! :) > I'd like to nominate Hanstones for a Syrinx Award. Not only is he one > of TNMS's more frequent posters, his website "Power Windows: A Tribute > to the Album Art (and Music) of Rush" (http://www.2112.net/powerwindows) > is the ultimate resource for those looking for Rush wallpaper, desktop > themes, animated cursors, and midi files. I wish such pages were > available for other musical groups. Hanstones has also helped me out > with follow-up technical advice and as a result I've learned a good deal > more about how to exploit my computer's capabilities. Although there are many flames on the NMS, I have made many friends here and enjoy continued correspondence with them (from Half the World away, right Erik?). When I first got wired into the net, I found very few Rush artwork images suitable for wallpaper and only 1 Desktop Theme. My site started when I altered the HYF juggler photo, which many people asked for when I offered it here on the NMS. Since then its become a hobby (or obsession!), and I always love to help another fan. It's also amazing how many emails I get from my website from Rush fans that haven't heard of the NMS. Needless to say, I do my best to point them in the right direction (any of you guys subscribed yet?). Anyone with Windows 95 Plus that hasn't been to my site has got to check it out. You won't be sorry. Trust me! We all have great taste, right? Coming soon to www.2112.net/powerwindows ---> Permanent Waves desktop theme (really, I promise), plus more wallpaper images. Thanks again for the plug Erik, stop by for a brewski next time you're in the neighborhood. Hanstones ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Caroline in the City <ccweiss@indiana.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 98 00:37:24 -0500 Subject: Re: other favorite drummers Hey fellow Rush freaks! I must apologize for the lack of Rush content...I just read Marco's favorite drummers, and was so excited to see Bill Stewart in the list! Bill went to college with my brother, Doug Weiss (who is a big name in the NYC jazz scene...he's a bassist...ANYWAY...). I've known Bill for years, and I'm glad he's finally getting the recognition he deserves! You have great taste, Marco! Caroline Wise ************************************************************ "No, Monica, I didn't tell you to lie in the deposition... I told you to LIE IN THAT POSITION!" --Bill Clinton ************************************************************ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 00:45:19 -0800 Subject: questions and answers Is "The Story of Kings" CD out of print? I keep seeing people offer to sell it. Haven't been in a record sore in months. To the person who said Julien Daigle isn't the reincarnation of Buddha. Damn right! _I_ am! Just kidding. RE: the fictional account of meeting Neil: I meet a lot of famous actors in my work. The WORST way to start is to pretend not to know someone, then try to let it slip later. Just acknowledge them, and treat them like a normal person. I had a great conversation and drinking bout with Gary Lockwood of 2001 and Star Trek. I said, "Hi, Mr. Lockwood, what's new?" He started telling me about his job as an architect (since he stopped acting in 1968 or so, although he may do some more soon, he admitted), then we started discussing booze--he's an aficionado of tequila, I of Scotch. We went to the hotel bar to experiment... If I met Neil, I'd probably just say, "Hi, Mr. Peart, How are things going?" That leaves it up to him to pick a subject of converstion, or not. mike ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Elias Granillo, Jr." <upnsm0ke@gte.net> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:55:12 -0800 Subject: Re: Rate The Musicians > From: greg cormier <cormier_greg@isus.emc.com> > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 98 17:10:23 EST > Subject: rate the musicians > > Just to get everyone thinking of something other than when is the new album > coming out ....etc. Tell me what are your top 10 musicians at Lead guitar, > Bass,and drums. I'm game: (in no particular order, of course) 6-String Wailers 'n' Criers: Alex Lifeson, John Petrucci, Jimi Hendrix, Carlos Santana, Jim Matheos, Henry J. Osborne (Djam Karet), Bill Berends (Mastermind), Edgar Froese (even though he plays so friggin' little nowadays, it's all keys), Kerry Livgren, Frank Zappa. 4-String Hummers 'n' Throbbers: Geddy Lee, John Francis "Jaco" Pastorios, Stanley Clarke, Zeek (Eternity X), Atsushi Hasegawa (Gerard), Tony Levin, Chris Squire, John Myung, Doug Pinnick, Pete Trewavas. Skin-Beaters 'n' Pulse Pumpers: Neil Peart, Mark Zonder, Terry Bozzio, Jimmy Peruta (Eternity X), Bill Bruford, Stewart Copeland, Mike Portnoy, John Heald, Anders Johansson, Rich Berends (Mastermind). Ivory-Ticklers 'n' Pounders: Rick Wakeman, Toshio Egawa (Gerard), Vitalij Kuprij (he's only 22, and he can SMOKE), Jens Johansson, Mark Kelly, Edgar Froese/Johannes Schmoelling (Tangerine Dream), Claudio Simonetti (Goblin), Keith Emerson, Ryo Okumoto (Spock's Beard), Clive Nolan. Plus, Kerry Livgren could also fit into here, too. Violinists, anyone? David Ragsdale, Eddie Jobson, David Cross & Matthew Parmenter (Discipline), to name some. Larnyx-Stranglers: ..awwww, I'm sick of typing. E-Man ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Hanstones <Hanstones@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:47:52 EST Subject: Average age of NMSer Frank (36 years old) wrote: >I thought about the average age of the Rush-fans (or the people at TNMS). What will it be? My bet is: far beyond thirty! Am I right? I recall around 6 months ago someone did a poll to which about 100 of us answered. The average age was 28. Just another ute, Hanstones ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeffrey Robinson" <Tefe@concentric.net> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 06:33:16 -0500 Subject: My 2 cents on the pub.... In the pub article, Mr.Mills (I'm assuming it was Mr. Mills) wrote "I knew in my heart of hearts he'd be an asshole in person." Then he went on about the angry stare, and "and just.... do whatever you want to do.... whatever you have to do to heal. Everybody worth a shit will understand, just like it's always been with you & the band, no matter what you do." Assuming this is true, and I hope it isn't, thinking that he will be an "asshole" before you meet him is plain wrong. Thinking that he is an "asshole" after this encounter is also wrong. You say that he is an 'asshole', but do you realize that he talked to you, and could have said "No, you may not sit here." Neil let you sit with him, and then YOU treated HIM with DISRESPECT. He may act differewntly under normal circumstamces, but you even worte that these are not normal circumstances. What do you expect him to do, turn around and be joyful and happy to everyone, and anyone, and continue making albums? To not get upset when some stranger disrespects you, and your deceased daughter, by treating it like a minor incident? Think about this: Neil lost his ONLY daughter. Selena is not something Neil can bike down to the nearest music store and purchase. She was a living, breathing, feeling human being. He is, understandably, shaken by her death, as any father would be. Do you finally understand? HE LOST HIS ONLY DAUGHTER!!! I honestly hope that he does take all the time in the world that he needs to deal with the loss of Selena. I do believe that all Rush fans should show their support to Neil, but to do it in a tactful way. I like the idea of buying a Rush album on August 10th, the date of Selena's death. I think that all Rush fans should not just buy any album, but, if it has been released by then, the new live album. However, the 'do whatever you have to do to heal' is innapropriate. He is trying to heal, and he doesn't need people saying things of that sort to his person. I have the utmost respect for Mr. Peart, not only as a musician, but a decent, caring human being. I can only hope that you, Mr. Mills, never have to experience what Neil is experiencing now. I hope nobody on this list, or in this world, has to deal with this type of thing ever again. Alas, I know this is an impossibility, and no parent should outlive their child. None of us can share his pain, and none of us can understand what he is feeling. What happened to Neil is a tragedy, and I hope that Neil finds his solace as soon as possible. I just hope that this story is a farce. [ As was pointed out a few digests ago, the story was merely fiction. Sure got a lot of people riled up though... : rush-mgr ] Jeff Robinson ---------------------------------------------------------- From: anddre@biohard.com.br Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:59:42 -0300 Subject: Top 5 drummers Well, this list will probably come under tons of fire, but you know what, i am going to add two lists. 1. Mike Portnoy <my opinion the MOST complicated drummer to imitate, now whether he set out in life to be more complicated than Neil is quesionable, but WOW. 3. That guy from Sepultura <i dont know his name, but he must take some incredible drugs or he's just very over looked cause i can't stand there music, but i saw there video tape from a roomate, and he's great. ------------------------------------------------ * My taste and technical lists are the same... 1 - NEIL PEART (no doubt 'bout it) 2 - Mike Portnoy 3 - John Bonham 4 - Carl Palmer 5 - Keith Moon 6 - Stewart Copeland (ops... it's the 6th) * Humm... i disagree with you in the point you said Portonoy is the first in technique... i think originality and creativity are as important as to be complicated. And Neil is such more original and creative. * The guy from Sepultura is Igor Cavalera... he's from Brazil, like me. Yep, he's certainly a great drummer, but i think he could be more technical and less agressive. * Please forgive my grammatical mistakes, my english is really bad! :( Cheers from Brazil, Anddre - anddre@biohard.com.br http://www.biohard.com.br/anddre/ BIOHARDWARE Network URL: http://www.biohard.com.br - Telnet: bbs.biohard.com.br Voz: (021) 512-1868 Suporte: (021) 512-5995 Fax: (021) 512-2484 Modem: (021) 540-4900 / (021) 512-5511 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Julien Daigle <fdassoc@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:39:09 -0400 Subject: Samuel Daigle Dear... Just as I thought, my pathetic insults have put some into flame. how come is it so easy to provoke some of you Rushians? You always take things so seriously, don't you have anything else to do? And for those who think this is Julien having schizophrenic tendencies, you are wrong! However, I have no way of prooving this(If you think of something, please tell me). I'm his real brother...As for the same adress : we live inthe same house, he is subscribed to NMS, and I read his posts everyday. Why wouldn't I sign my name as Julien's brother, it'll just make you speculate even more, or bombard both of us with falsly-based pejorative comments. Only a weak-willed individual would succomb to that. But why constantly babble on about Julien's supposedly insane ideas and motives? Don't you have anything better to do than shut down people's ideas just because they're not yours or you simply don't agree with them. Give the guy some respect! He wrote what he thought, that's it! Where's the crime? Where's the insanity? They condemned Jules Verne for insanity because he was the first one to think of the time-machine or the submarine. and look what happened... We can't always shut-down somebody's ideas by expressing narrow-minded remarks. Respect it, and politly don't agree. If you are tired of reading it, don't! Samuel Daigle ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jen Fisher" <beaviscooper@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 06:48:54 PST Subject: Virgins for the Secret Society Frank Mahle <fmahle@odn.de> wrote: << I never saw it this way, but it is a nice idea: Let us pray to beautyful young (and naked?) women. But we also need virgins, a lot of virgins for the rituals........Where are the virgins? >> I'm a virgin, and not yet a member of the Secret Society. Anyone care to initiate me? ;) Jen ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Geissler <pageissler@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:05:14 -0500 Subject: Crashing the stage continued. MPK@BDI-AE.COM (Michael P. Kane) wrote this thing about crashing the stage. And I think he's right. Admittedly, running around up there for a second would be a cool little novelty, but shooting a driver who has just cut you off in the face would also be a cool little novelty, but you just don't do it because you hope the guy is worth more than one stupid act (unless he doesn't like Rush or is a Spice Girls groupie, in which case you should just shoot him and not worry.) The idea of enjoying a whole concert is worth more than one stupid act. Which is why I enjoyed it in Los Angeles when some roadies starting beating the piss out of this cracker who ran up on stage (RTB?). In a related story, someone threw an entire beer onto Les Claypool at Roseland this last Monday night, and the throwee was publicly castigated. Now, this is the third time I've seen this happen to Primus (out of 5 shows). (Lest you wonder, I'm a Primus groupie, and we worship a little stuffed doll of Eric Cartman while we snort ajax. Most of us have a large bone pierced through our skulls. Join us. Help me, Spock). Can't we think of some creative suggestions to deal with these morons? Or should they just be ignored? Should we ignore the guy who cuts us off, shoot him in the face, or give him flowers? Should we give flowers to just anyone, just because we feel like it? I don't know. I'm confused, so I'm gonna go shoot myself in the face until I stop typing the phrase 'shoot in the face'.) Yers, Zaphod Beeblebrox ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Taj Dickinson <sunnyjim@csionline.net> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:33:55 -0500 Subject: Rush: the magic of the internet I must say that the magic of Rush never ceases to amaze me. My ISP is a complete piece of crap and I have trouble connecting soemtimes. I could try to connect for twenty minutes and get nothing but a busy signal. But the last three times that I had that problem, all I had to do was throw in a Rush CD and, BAM! I'm on :) Tonight it happened to be Lakeside Park, the insparation of this letter, that got me connected. Hehe, bring on the magic :) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert G. Bolton" <cyberleader@pdq.net> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:03:50 -0800 Subject: Julien SHUT UP!! Julien; I won't mistake your ideas as insanity, your FAR TOO much an ego-maniac to be considered just insane!! Remember, the gene pool needs some chlorine, so drink heavily! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry Hoffer" <paradoxical@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:34:51 PST Subject: What might be included from H. Odeon Show (2nd live disk) Responding to S. Berrets' post: If they use the H. Odeon show from the Hemispheres tour: I think we can expect to see Cygnus X-I/Hemispheres for sure, and probably A Farewell to Kings and Circumstances... it is also possible that everything except for 2112 will be included (since it was on ATWAS). If they use the H. Odeon show from the Perm. Waves Tour: We'll still get both books of Cygnus (except I think Hemispheres is abbreviated for that tour) and probably Natural Science too ;-) So the question is ... which tour will they use? I thought before that the complete 2112 might appear on the new live album, now I think it would be redundant since most of it (- Oracle) was done for ATWAS. Reading into what was said about Rush not going into the studio to record this year seems to make sense. Live album late this year, next studio (?) late 1999 or 1/1/2000. Neil writing... one could infer he's working on his second "T4E tour by motorcycle" book... this is a good thing. and something that should make for a great read. I hope it inspires some great lyrics for the next album. Yup, the English pub psuedo-encounter w NP was believeable, a good story to ponder if you did actually run in to him. Thanks, to everyone posting Rush-related news...and *insider info*..! Rushin' on Terry ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Guy Walker <reklaw@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 06:49:05 -0600 Subject: new bootleg Heard a new bootleg off the TFE tour,can't remember the name.It's a triple CD.it sounds alright...for a non-board mix.I think it was from New jersey. First one off any recent tours that I've seen...I could be wrong.One thing's for sure....the boys were really on...swinging man,swinging. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Little Drummer Boy <reece@ONLINE.EMICH.EDU> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:08:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Drum Debate > From: Harry Johnson <harry@avanticorp.com> > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:37:05 -0500 (EST) > Subject: Settle a dispute about Neil's Drums > > A friend and I are arguing about whether Neil's kit did the turn > around thing between his electronic and acoustic drums on the TFE > tour. Anyone remember? Anyone specifically at the Charlotte show? >From what i recall, Neil his the echoing drums once, lets it echo. A second time, lets it echo, then stands up. Then hits is a third time and sits down on the electronic side. I remember the set spinning a little over half the way around, so that Neil would be facing ppl that were on his left for most of the show. Derek ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco Mendonca <analog.kid@mindless.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:40:23 -0300 Subject: RES: Unreleased Rush songs Greetings, I have here some RUSH's album (CD) called "Live from the Eletric Ladyland Studios 1974" with THA GUYZ playing some songs from RUSH and some from (unreleased at that time) FLY BY NIGHT. It's from KLONDYKE RECORDS and has a track which reads: "CAN'T YOU SEE (unreleased track) - 4:10" ... MARCO MENDONCA analog.kid@mindless.com subdivisions@mindless.com >I may be remembering this wrong, but I recall listening to "The Story of >Kings" CD interview (which I don't own anymore) where Alex said there was a >song scrapped from the first album. >Just a thought. >Pete ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco Mendonca <analog.kid@mindless.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:49:14 -0300 Subject: RE: The Rush SecSoc ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? MARCO MENDONCA analog.kid@mindless.com subdivisions@mindless.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: UberMar <UberMar@aol.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:22:33 EST Subject: C-Money = sexist slob >>Finally, here's an idea for a new thread (please, no flames yet): >>What song(s) would be good for a wedding? >>~~~~~ >>Entre Nous >>Different Strings >> >>That's my plan, anyhoooo. >~~~~~~~~~~ >Man, I hope you enjoy being single, because no chick is gonna let that >happen at her wedding. > > [ Oh REALLY? : rush-mgr ] > >c money Yeah, Oh Really. Hey, C, there ya go assuming everyone on this list is a tri- pod. I am a chick, and it is SO gonna happen. Stupid. Mar (a chick, duh) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: dt-streamline@webtv.net (Derek Tetlow) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:12:33 -0700 Subject: Re: 03/20/98 - The National Midnight Star #1992 Hi all! My girlfriend (who is also a Rushian) and I had a discussion on which was the most well known Rush song in the view of the public eye; I say Tom Sawyer and she says Spirit of Radio. Any thoughts out there to settle this little dipute? "Sadder still to watch it die than never to have known it." Derek Tetlow Streamline Sports Video "Simplification through Modernization" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: lerxst1@juno.com (Brian M Donlin) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:17:30 EST Subject: Re: Rush, of course >>As I remember it, that was the beginning of the end of RUSH on Mtv. I don't remember any videos actually being played from any album after that.<< I actually saw "Half the World" the night of first leg of T4E tour on MTV. After the second show during the second leg, I got the video for "Driven" off of MuchMusic. Now I'm pissed because my cable company stopped getting MuchMusic. A lot of videos get played on that, though. Got a tape full of them :) Brian Lerxst1@juno.com "A spirit with a vision, is a dream with a mission." ~ N. Peart, Rush ---------------------------------------------------------- From: galahad77@juno.com (Ryan N Waggoner) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:15:12 -0500 Subject: Fave drummers/top 10 (non-Rush) albums Ok. I'm finally gettin' around to posting my picks here, so... Fave drummers (other than Neil).... *Paul Roraback (Grammatrain) *Stewart Copeland (The Police) *Peter Furler/Duncan Phillips (Newsboys) *Louis Weaver (Petra) *Phil Ehart (Kansas) *Todd Sucherman/John Panozzo (Styx) *John "Bermuda" Schwartz ("Weird Al" Yankovic) *Scott Savage (Jars Of Clay tour drummer) *Brian DuVall (Johnny Q. Public) *Jason Carson (The Orange County Supertones (a.k.a. The Supertones) ) *Mark Does (Trailer Park Heroes) *Chris Thomas (Roaster) *Roger Taylor (Queen) *Nick Mason (Pink Floyd) *Trent Reznor/Trent Reznor's computer (Nine Inch Nails) *Jerry Gaskill (King's X) *John Bonham (Led Zeppelin) *Carter Beauford (Dave Matthews Band) *Ginger Baker (Cream/Blind Faith) *Keith Moon (The Who) *Jim Gordon (Derek And The Dominos) *Carl Palmer (Emerson, Lake, & Palmer) *Alex Van Halen (Van Halen) Top 10 Non-RUSH albums.... 10. 'Dogman' -- King's X 9. '1984' -- Van Halen 8. 'Freaks Of Nature' -- Kansas 7. 'The Wall' -- Pink Floyd 6. 'Da Da Da' -- TRIO 5. 'Take Me To Your Leader' -- Newsboys 4. 'Brain Salad Surgery' -- Emerson, Lake, & Palmer 3. 'A Night At The Opera' -- Queen 2. 'Rocks-Volume 1' -- Queen 1. 'Flying' -- Grammatrain Ryan/Stimpy ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Rushman523 <Rushman523@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:30:12 EST Subject: Re: 03/20/98 - The National Midnight Star #1992 Hello Fellow Rush fans, A friend of mine and I are having a debt here. I think that Geddy lee was the guy who got Rush together. I had heard in an interview with Alex that Geddy interduced him to John Rutsey. And it also my belief that Geddy was the first to hear Neil. So if any one can help me with this debate. Rushman523@aol.com David ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:35:08 -0800 Subject: disconnected comments no one has mentioned Jonathan Mover as a drummer--Stu Hamm, GTR, several other groups. I agree that the bass on RTB is virtually non-existent. I like REM's music, but their lyrics are trully obscure and stupid--they should stick to instrumentals ("follow me don't follow me, I've got my spine, I've got my orange crush??????""Oh , no, I've said too much, I haven't said enough. That's me in the corner, that's me in the spotlight losing my religion?????" WHAT IN THE NAME OF GOD AND RUDYARD KIPLING AND NEIL PEART DOES THAT MEAN IN ENGLISH?????") rant mode off. Still trying to reach Giuseppe Fortino. E-me dude. So, you with a copy of "The Larger Bowl"--tell us--what's it sound like? What are the lyrics? There are a TON of Rush fans at the Indpls Gun Show--I sold several Rush related stickers. Caroline In The City, are you still there? Didn't get any response to my last e--did you get it? KAR: I have the M-60 and 3 silencers as requested. How much ammo will we need? And do we have any use for my Steyr AUG? mike http://www.2112.net/daggers ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil Humpherys <humphery@itsnet.com> Date: 23 Mar 1998 00:16:28 -0700 Subject: Re: Fav. Drummers... rkkmc@juno.com (Randy Campbell) writes: > My favorite drummers are as follows 1. John Bonham 2. Keith Moon 3. Neil Peart - Phil Humpherys <humphery@itsnet.com> Iomega Corporation/DriverSoft Systems Administrator Office: +1.801.778.4466 PGP: 1024 0xBD9F700D 1F 2F 32 53 98 BF 03 9E C3 77 1B 4D 6E C1 84 C4 WWW: http://www.astron.net/~humphery ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian T. Peterson" <brianp@mcn.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:44:19 -0700 Subject: Julien, Julien, Julien . . . Alex? Hello everybody! It seems lately that half of the posts on the NMS contain the subject words, "Julien Daigle," and/or "Rush Secret Society." Some of these posts are from Julien himself. And some of these posts are from people flaming Julien. So, is Julien Daigle actually Alex Lifeson? One cannot help but wonder >. . . "Catch the witness, catch the wit, catch the spirit, catch the FISH!" As Julien would say, RUSH on, Brian "We travel in the dark of the new moon." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "DR PAUL SMITH" <Paul.Smith@nottingham.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:50:04 GMT0BST Subject: Rush songs for a wedding Rush songs for a wedding is a pretty terrible idea, but you might try the following: Distant Early Warning Time Stand Still The entire Fear trilogy Something for Nothing Freewill Force Ten (tough times demand tough hearts) I am sure other subscribers can improve on this. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "DR PAUL SMITH" <Paul.Smith@nottingham.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:03:46 GMT0BST Subject: Body Electric Amusing Rush stories, number 637. I was at the Milton Keynes Bowl in 1984 for the last ever Status Quo gig - well, that's what it was packaged as. On the bill were Nazareth, Marillion etc. I went principally to see Marillion and to attend what we all thought was going to be a historic day. As it turned out Quo decided to go on the road again, but that is by-the-by. During the afternoon, filled with some pretty dreadful bands, the DJ came on and cried out, "Does anybody want to hear some Rush", to which 20,000 people bellowed "Yeeeeeeessssss". "Okay, here's The Body Electric", to which 20,000 thousand people whispered "Noooooooooooooooooooooo". After all, whenj someone offers you Rush through a big PA, you don't need that, do you? Yours, not afraid to say if he doesn't like a Rush song. Dr Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- From: greg cormier <cormier_greg@isus.emc.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 98 7:42:20 EST Subject: Exit Stage Left... It was another gloomy weekend with a mix of sleet snow and rain here in New England.Confined to indoor quarters I went through all my Rush stuff and dusted off my Exit Stage Left video.I popped it in to the VCR and sat back to enjoy the show.I hadn't watched this video for quite some time but was pleasantly reminded how good it was.The live By-Tor and Trees/Xanadu versions are worth the price of the video alone.The only part that wasn't so pleasant,to the eye,was the wardrobe of one Alex Lifeson.That Orange blazer must of been one of a kind because I've never seen one before or after that.My ears were not disappointed and the OPrange blazer was only a slight distraction. I wouldn't rate this video as their best overall production but the set list is excellent and shows the band just after the Moving Pictures album really coming in to their own. Did the band ever release a video following the live "All the World's a Stage" album release? I have three concert video's that have been released by the band,Exit Stage Left,Grace Under Pressure,and A show of hands,the later being my favorite video.The overall audio and video quality are excellent and once again the set list is perfect.The wardrobes are even respectful so you can't miss with this video.Are there other concert video's that have been released by the band ? What are other peoples favorite band released video's and for what reasons ? ----------------------------------------------------------
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