The National Midnight Star #1090

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The Camera Eye Re: 04/21/95 - The National Midnight Star #1088 Re: #2(2) 04/21/95 - The National Midnight Star #1088 T-shirts! just some various junk... Rush influenced band INFERNO!!!! Rush Tribute Misc stuff Need help with Video's!!!!!! Guitars&Female Fans Rush Tribute Cd Neil's ride and playing Putting "The Trees" to rest Rush is a BAND!!!! A rush tribute(again!). Re: 04/20/95 - The National Midnight Star #1087 Visions of Rush! The Power of Rush's Music, a personal experience. VH-1, Don K. and RUSH? How I got hooked on the guys Where are you? ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 01:27:25 EST From: THE ANIMATED NIPPLE <csaroka@yorkcol.edu> Subject: Sorry :( Whoops! Looks like I messed up. I was the one who mentioned that Rush never plays a song if they don't play it on that supporting tour. Well, thanks to Kelly (gros0466@uwwvax.uww.edu) I see I overlooked the obvious - Witch Hunt. That makes me feel better. As long as they've played one (and probably more that I missed :)...) there's still chance for Presto, Open Secrets, Cut to the Chase, Available Light, Lock and Key, Alien Shore, Everyday Glory, and a host of others that deserve a live perfomance. Oops. I guess that'll teach me to think at 4 in the morning, huh? The Suspicious-looking Stranger -Chris at York College csaroka@yorkcol.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "There's no such thing as gravity. The world just sucks." :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The giant, savage So-ut is especially bloodthirsty and cruel, making it a crowd favorite against unarmed opponents. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Major League Baseball players...keep playing! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 03:47:40 EDT From: dennisfp@cris.com (Dennis Pupello II) Subject: Misunderstood Lyrics When I used to play The Camera Eye, my brother would belt out: "The Falcons / Get Shot / In the City!" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 02:05:39 -0600 (MDT) From: Andrea Perkins <Andrea.Perkins@m.cc.utah.edu> Subject: Re: 04/03/95 - The National Midnight Star #1081 I must talk ABOUT THE ALBUM HEMISPHERE. THE atmosperic overtone to this album is very uniqu. in reply to the question about "the trees" this song came form an acid trip that geddy, alex and neil were on in vancouver. also I would like to know if anyonbe is aware of what inspired the song "vital signs" as this is my favorite song by rush, like they all aren't my favorites. well I better give my computer a good warm boot. thanks ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 06:51:23 -0500 From: s851001@umslvma.umsl.edu (Ed Blonski) Subject: ** RUSHINFO V1.0** Greetings fellow readers! I just wanted to publicly honor the work of Paul Singh aka RiOT Nrrd! His program for MS Windows, RushInfo is fantastic. No Rush fan who runs Windows should be without this. The work that Paul put into this is incredible. It has everything that even the most die-hard Rush fan (like me) would want to have. Way to go Paul! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Ed Blonski (s851001@umslvma.umsl.edu) "One likes to believe in the * *Rush fan (the band and the man!) Freedom of Email!" TNMS * *Titus 1:5-9 "But I'm young enough to remember* *Soon to be Alumni of Concordia the future and the way things * *Seminary, St. Louis, 1995 ought to be!" NP * ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:25:36 -0600 From: keeks@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Tom Keekley) > This is my first post to NMS. > Last week I had the pleasure of attending the RUSH Limbaugh show. >Some of you might feel that this is not such a pleasurable thing, but I . . er . . I won't touch THAT! . . . ;-) >digress. Before the show is actually filmed, Rush comes out and give an >audience briefing, where everyone gets to ask questions. > In the past, Rush has used some songs by Rush as "bumper music" >in between commercial breaks, and I always wondered if there might be some >sort of connection between the two RUSH's. So, I asked him, "Are you >a Rush fan?" His reply was yes! I'm sure he was referring to HIMSELF. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:43:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Edward T Schreiner <eschrein@s850.mwc.edu> Subject: Bands who cover RUSH okay, somebody started this thread, so i will put in my 2 cents worth: 1) Public Enemy- Stick It Out 2) Extreme- You Bet Your Life 3) Soundgarden- Cut to the Chase 4) Weezer- The Spirit of Radio 5) Cinderella- Cinderella Man :) 6) U2- Grand Designs 7) Cracker- Dreamline 8) Frank Sinatra- In the End 9) Red Hot Chili Peppers- Roll the Bones 10) Collective Soul- Finding My Way okay, i'll vaugely give reasons for my picks, at least i will try... 1) by far the best rap group around, "stick it out" is sort of along the same lines as "give it up." 2) Cherone & Bettencourt's vocals would harmonzie well on this song and Bettencourt's one of the top guitarists around. 3) This band rocks and "cut to the chase" rocks, though i suppose it may not be "depressing" enough for soundgarden. maybe "red sector a" might be better. also, neil thinks that matt cameron, the drummer, is pretty awesome, (and he's right, of course). 4) I think this song would sound cool with a little more distortion guitar oriented band, plus rivers cuomo is a great singer. 5) okay, this was sort of a joke, but i suppose it could work. 6) I get chills thinking of Bono singing the line "shapes and lines, of grand designs." 7) The song rocks, the band rocks, what more can you ask for? 8) okay, i needed a slightly different type singer and i think this could work. 9) This is a funky song to begin with and would be even more funkified by the RHCP. Flea is about the only bassist as good as Geddy. 10) Sort of along the same lines as "Shine," though i would expect them to play this song differently. they would defitly add the tradiotional "yeahs." -ed ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:50:11 -0400 (EDT) From: joseph paul mancewicz <jmance@engin.umich.edu> Subject: The Trees accoring to Neil Is there a message in "The Trees"? "No. It was just a flash. I was working on an entirely different thing when I saw a cartoon picture of these trees carrying on like fools. I thought, "What if trees acted like people?" So I saw it as a cartoon really, and wrote it that way. I think that's the image that it conjures up to a listener or a reader. A very simple statement." -- Neil Peart, in the April/May 1980 _Modern Drummer_ magazine ---------------------------------------------------------- From: mberg@ida.liu.se (Magnus Berg) Subject: Rush & Sweden Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 19:55:47 MET Hi guys'n'gals. During the few months I've read TNMS there have been more postings from Sweden than it "should" be, statistically anyway. I'm not complaining, I just think it's odd 'cause Rush fans in Sweden are *very* rare. Many of the Swedish postings have complained about why they never tour this way. The last time they were here was on the Hemispheres tour -79 and what I've heard, the company responsible for most of the rock concerts in Sweden, EMA Telstar, had some sort of dispute with the band and have refused to arrange Rush concerts ever since. ;-((( I can't of course guarantee the correctness of this but as Rush MUST have the absolute record of low radio time in Sweden, I've only heard them once (1, en, uno, ein) on country wide radio and then once on a local station, there must be some sort of anti-Rush-movement in the corridors of swedish media. Paranoid, Me? Noooo, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they AREN'T after you. C'ya /------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Magnus Berg MBerg@ida.liu.se | \ Life: Organized disobedience of the law of gravity. Robert M. Pirsig / ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:23:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Eric J. Mcclanahan" <ejmcclan@mailbox.syr.edu> Subject: Move it, MAPLES!!! Like I said before, (or didn't) I love the tree song, (that's what my partner calls it). The lyrics are probably very deep to some people, and at times they can be to me, but every message that is sent by a sender (Peart) and recived by a reciever (all of us) has a different meaning, and we therefore cannot say right or wrong to what meaning anyone else gets from the song. They feel one way, you feel another, and we can express the meanings that we get through the posts, but some of us are getting out of control with this (no, its racist... your wrong...yes you are...Neil this and Ayn Rand that). In the end in reality, the Maples are a Northern hardwood species (hence the Canadian flag), and the Oaks are a central hardwood species, and they don't have too much of an overlapping range. So what it all comes down to is that Mr. Peart saw a cartoon and wrote a song about it! Then came the NMS and here we are today. Flame if necessary, Eric ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:24:10 -0600 From: keeks@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Tom Keekley) Subject: WANTED Any pre-Moving Pictures tourbooks. VG or EX condition. Will pay cashola! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:57:49 +0200 (IST) From: barryb <BARRYB@ids.net> Subject: Re: TNMS#1087(David Panian's posting) synthesizers, MIDI David, Even though Rush uses sequencers, I'd really like to believe that everthing one hears in their live shows is in some way triggered by one of the boyz... I know that there are a few exceptions, such as Aimee Mann's voice in time stand still; but I'd much rather see this solution than see extra musicians up on stage or backstage. To me, the solution they have chosen is the path with the most integrity. The posting a few TNMS's ago by a gentleman who believes he saw an extra keyboard player onstage with Rush during the Presto tour has me really upset. I hope you were mistaken or kidding! :( "All this machinery making modern music can still be open-hearted" "I set the wheels in motion turn up all the machines activate the programs and run behind the scene" Barry J. Bocaner <barryb@ids.net> ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 18:26:15 +0200 (IST) From: barryb <BARRYB@ids.net> Subject: Rush Lit. Allusions re: losing it "For whom the bell tolls" originally comes from elizabethan english literature. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it is the title of a sonnet by John Dunne. Barry Bocaner <barryb@ids.net> [ From the depths of high school literature, I seem to remember that. I'm not sure if it's the title, but I remember the line. : rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- From: gpetrosk@cosi.stockton.edu (Gina Petroski) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 20:51:21 EDT Subject: Rush tributes Hi everyone! I got a kick out of the post about what a possible Rush tribute album would look like. Of course the powers that be would want to get "guaranteed" audience grabbers like Blech-ie Raitt and Bon Jovi. Then we'd get the usual "tribute album whores" like Sheryl Crow,who said,"All I wanna do is Cygnus X-1, and the Cranberries (.."Xanadu-dududu-dudududu....Sorry!) Of course, the surprise addition, yet one thats so obvious, is Nine Inch Nails, with Trent Reznor's update of...you guessed it...Closer(To the Heart) (Subtitled:Closer to Gedd) However, in reality, there will probably never be a Rush tribute album, unless it were done by the many tribute bands out there. There just arent' that many who can keep up with the boyz. (Please, I don't need to hear the words Dream Theater one more time. I don't hear how they sound like Rush, I don't like them...end of story) It might be fun to hear who might be good doing Rush songs. How about: Pearl Jam:In the End, In the Mood Weezer:I think I'm Going Bald Collective Soul:Bravado Counting Crows:The Pass Smashing Pumpkins:Lakeside Park STP:Circumstances Maybe a tribute album is a bad idea, but its still fun coming up with possibilities. I think I would actually enjoy the Pumpkins doing LP. Oh well, that's all for now. By-Tor and the Snow Tire? Kira ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Apr 1995 18:21:44 -0800 (PST) From: ELBEL@quasar.dnet.hac.com Subject: King's X can't open for Rush... since they're both managed by Ray Danniels. the nature of being the opening act is to get drug around and treated sort of like dirt whilst trying to get more exposure and steal some of the headliner's audience. If the opening band is getting shafted one way or the other, who goes to bat for them? The management, that's who. If the management for the headliner is the same firm, there's a conflict of interest. >... but I sure wish they would have. i'm not much of a Scorpions fan. i can barely imagine seeing my two favorite bands back to back like that. it might have been too much to take, but would have made the ticket price a lot more worth it. ------------------------------------------------------------------- FTJ on the web- http://www.netads.com/netads/arts/music/marathon/ftj ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Marathon Records | Jeff Elbel | Email: elbel@quasar.dnet.hac.com | | True Tunes News |------------| P.O. 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Of course, the big Four at the beginning (Tom Sawyer, Red Barchetta, YYZ, and Limelight) were my favorites, and for a while I didn't venture too far past that. Ever so slowly, however, I would play more of The Camera Eye. And the one day it hit me. I was stunned. One moment the song was building and changing, and the next, Geddy was singing "Grim-faced and forbidding...". The transition between intro and vocal floored me. For a few seconds, I was unsure if anyone was actually singing, because the voice seemed to fit with such absolute perfection to the tempo and "sound". It was a perfect mesh, and I could hardly believe it. That was about the time I started to take these guys really eriously. I quickly bought everything I could find and absorbed it all. What wonderful music. (Such nostalgia!) If anyone has live recordings of The Camera Eye (what's all this about a video? I want!), I would love to hear. .. Alan "I feel the sense of possibilities..." - N. Peart ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 22:01:24 -0500 From: weissa@lafvax.lafayette.edu (Garet Jax) Subject: Re: 04/21/95 - The National Midnight Star #1088 First off, i'd like to apologize for another "The Trees" post, but after reading Sabina Becker's response to Gerard D.'s previous post i couldn't contain myself any longer. I don't want to start a political debate, and i'm not going to interject my own political philosophy to further muddle this sensitive and tired thread; I just think Sabina's comments were unfair and lacked consistency (thought?) First, Sabina suggests that noone, and certainly not *her* would suggest that those with sight should be blinded for the sake of fairness. Then a couple lines later she is suggests that the oaks "must lose a few limbs to learn their lesson" !? (this is right after she falls centimeters short of calling Gerard pro-slavery, anti-woman, etc....) Then we get to: >Gerard: "God gave the oaks their height, for whatever reason. Who are >the maples to take that away." >Ahem! The maples aren't doing that much taking. It's the hatchet, ax >and saw, remember? Now i think the point was pretty bloody obvious that Gerard is referring to what the maples _want_ to accomplish. I believe a relevant line in the song goes "We will make them give us light." Whether one views that as unfair "taking" or not is not the point; the moral is "Don't take a quotation out of context without thinking just to make another cut at your opponent." The relevant quotation is " now there's no more oak oppression for they passed a noble law, and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe, and saw." A perfectly valid interpretation of this is that the new law (brought to you by the *maples*) is what brings the "hatchet, axe, and saw" into the picture. I don't believe in the christian god either, but saying that God gave them their height just doesn't relate to what you try and relate it to. I don't think Gerard would argue that babies are born fully developed..(i could be wrong) Sure people grow in all sorts of ways and it's not all genetically determined, but in the world of the trees, Oaks are just bigger than Maples. They just are, it's just the way they are made. This doesn't necessarily to have to apply to humans, and i doubt Gerard would call poorer people a lesser form of human, i also doubt he's say the person was destined to be poor because of some genetic reason or something. We are talking about trees here. Yes, the trees talk and stuff, but *height* of the trees is the issue. If the Maples really could grow as big as the Oaks, then we wouldn't need a hatchet, axe, and saw to keep things equal because eventually the maples would be just as tall as the oaks. (then neil's last line would be simply short-sighted and there's no evidence for that) >The people with all the "Big Money" haven't all earned it. Some got it >by thievery, and others got it by selling big bullshit. They have to >give some up because they took it from others. Hey, calm down! Who are you to judge "the people" with all the money. you don't even concede *one* of them has earned it! Come on! Further, the ones who sold the "big bullshit", as you put it, certainly got someone to sell it to didn't they? so people wanted it, and they provided it...Hmmmm..Some people call that earning...(this is not to say all big business, and all people with big money earned it -- far from it -- i am simply trying to dispell these offensive blanket stereotypes Sabina so expertly throws around) Ok, i'm done. I'm really, really sorry guys - i just got offended and had to say something. I'll go back to my corner now. All flames/death threats/whatever can be directed to email please. Later on everyone... aaron ------------------ "A thing is not necessarily true because a man dies for it." -- Oscar Wilde ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 22:29:36 -0400 From: ForceTen10@aol.com Subject: Re: #2(2) 04/21/95 - The National Midnight Star #1088 gconners@students.wisc.edu (Gary Conners) <--- wrote: >>You're kidding right? Why would anyone want to see Michael Bolton and Rush >>on the same night? That's fine if you happen to like Bolton, but they are >>two completely different performers. Bolton is pop and Rush is rock. I >>thought Primus opening for Rush was bad, but Bolton and Rush together? On >>the Primus note, I never thought it was possible to listen to the most >>untalented band and the most talented band in the same night. It was awful! >>But at least it made Rush's appearance just so much better. Just who did you consider talented??????? Of Course Rush! BUT You obviously don't know talent when you see it (other than Rush). All 3 members of Primus are EXTREMELY talented. If you would give their music a chance, it just might grow on you. When I first heard Primus (Opening for Rush in San Diego on the RTB's tour). I thought the same thing you and many other people did, "These guys suck" (literaly). Then I bought 1 of their albums and realized that they were actually a great band, and VERY talented. -Charles ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 22:30:28 -0400 From: aj774@detroit.freenet.org (David Panian) Subject: T-shirts! I just got my 20th anniversary shirts - they are _fantastic_! Everyone who was involved in the design and production gets a hearty well done and "thank you" (as said by you-know-who) from me. I love the buried stuff in the text. That's all - but I am bummed the next album will be later than had been anticipated. I guess we should look at this as going to a good restaurant or a fine wine. The food - or wine - is better the longer you wait. Then again, those "better" places tend to cost more... Later, David ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 14:25:24 -0400 (EDT) From: James R Noble <noblejr@wilkes1.wilkes.edu> Subject: just some various junk... Hey all. Here's a few questions that occasionally cross my mind: Anybody know who the dude in the 'Body Electric' video is? He's the one being chased by those 'androids' that look like they belong at a Halloween party, or something. (I still can't take that video seriously...good song, though!) Anyone ever laugh their ass off when you watch the GUP tour video, and you see that '80s kid with his '80s headband air-drumming during YYZ? (That always puts me in stiches...even though I did it myself at the CP concert, so I shouldn't make fun :-) Why do you think that Neil still has his P/G drum heads during the 'Big Money' video? Shouldn't he have had the PW logos by then? If you look EXTREMLEY close at the 'Closer to the Heart' video from the '70s, you can catch a glimpse of a black guy in big yellow bell-bottoms kneeling to the right of Neil with a camera. If you listen EXTREMELY close to the fade of 'I think I'm going bald', you can hear Geddy yell 'Get a haircut, will ya!? (like HE should talk about a haircut back then :-)) Ever notice that the fading music during the end of 'Lock and Key' sounds exactly like the chorus to 'The Body Electric' (You could actully sing the 1001001 part during the fade if you want) YKYARF when you come up with half a dozen things to keep other Rush fans busy...Like I'll bet right after you read this, you're all gonna put in your Chronicles video/Lock and Key/I think I'm going bald/ to try and make me a liar! Buh-Bye James Noble ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 15:30:29 -0400 From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu> Subject: Rush influenced band INFERNO!!!! Hi all, My band INFERNO is heavily influenced by Rush. Although, our sound reflects some Rush influence, we think of Rush more as mentors. Rush's drive and ambition is inspiring. If anyone would like to check out a copy of our new demo 'Architect', simply mail a check or money order (made payable to Jay Peele) for $6 ($5 for the tape and $1 for postage) to: INFERNO c/o Jay Peele 6556 Fern St. Green Cove Springs, FL 32043 I am extremely trustworthy and will mail out the digalog cassette as soon as I receive your check or money order. To get on our group e-mail list simply e-mail me: jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu Thanks, Jay Peele INFERNO Rush on............ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 14:32:19 -0700 From: ddieter@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Dan Dieter) Subject: Rush Tribute Hello. This is my first post to this list. I have been a Rush fan since about 1980. I have many questions, but will read your posts for awhile to see if you answer them (also archive and review...). I really like the idea of a tribute. Rush has some of the best music, but never gets attention. Anyway, here are a few of my ideas of tributees... La Villa Strangiato Andy Summers (former Police) or Joe Satriani Closer to the Heart Sting The Trees Linda Ronstadt Lessons Crash Test Dummies Tom Sawyer Living Colour A Passage to Bangcock Elvis Costello More Later...dwd -- Dan Dieter : "The major advances in civilization Child Care Provider : are processes that all but wreck Portland, Oregon, USA : the societies in which they occur." ddieter@ednet1.osl.or.gov : A. N. Whitehead ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 18:12:05 EDT From: BFXG61B@prodigy.com (MR RYAN M GALLAGHER) Subject: Misc stuff Hey all... Just thought i'd let out some of the things i've been pondering... Ok, in response to the hearings of Rush-like rhythms in other songs, has anyone heard R.E.M's Bang and Blame? My brother has this and the first time he played it i walked in during the middle of the song and swore it was SOR. It has fooled my many a time on the radio too. (sorry about the non rush stuff!) Second, i also eagerly awaited the Live Unplugged performance and thought it was awesome. Ed (the lead singer) really had fun with it...he's always wanted to play in a mosque (sp?) or temple and that was pretty darn close. Does anyone have a copy of the show on tape? I was vacationing and couldn't record it. l8r, Ry "We like to have everything in tune 'cause we're about as punk rock as...that book over there." -Ed Kowalczyk, +Live+ Unplugged, 4/19/95 ------------------------------------------------------ <Rush * Pearl Jam * +Live+ * Nirvana * George Winston> ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 19:16:34 -0400 From: ForceTen10@aol.com Subject: Need help with Video's!!!!!! Hello Fellow NMS'rs. I am about to give up!! This is a last resort for me in my search for video's from Consecutive nights!!!! I have: a) 4/9/83 Quebec b) 3/7/88 Toronto c) 10/25/91 Hamilton, Ontario Alex's side 75 Min. *Alex's Side* d) 12/1/91 Philadelphia e) 12/6/91 New York *Alex's Side* f) 3/8/94 New York g) 4/30/94 Philadelphia Here are the consecutive nights, of those above that I am desperately looking for: aa) 4/8/83 Quebec bb) 3/8/88 Toronto cc) 10/25/91 Hamilton, Ontario *Geddy's Side* 114 Min. dd) 12/3/91 Philadelphia ee) 12/6/91 New York *Geddy's Side* ff) 3/9/94 New York gg) 4/29/94 Philadelphia So, If ANYONE has any of these video's. On Either list. Contact me because the dates are confusing and we might actually have different nights video's. So please (again) if you have either one, please let me know, and we can compare notes on the quality of the recording, the angle of the shot, what the Boyz were wearing, etc..... And maybe we can find some consecutive nights. Now if anyone is curious. I know all the video's are accurate and DO exist. I found out about these from a Contact's list (Jerry "Broon Jr." Brown). He has all of the above listed. Except I have nothing to trade him! He has everything! He is a big collector. He has about 85 bootleg video's. So if it was filmed, chances are he has it! Sorry if I wasted anyone's time with this, -Charles. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 19:53:39 -0400 (EDT) From: scott a neathamer <neatham@engin.umich.edu> Subject: Guitars&Female Fans I'm not going to start this with a list of my credentials that makes me a qualified critic on this topic, I just want to get my opinion out. There's been a lot of talk about who's the best guitarist or whatever. I don't think it's childish to debate this, in fact I enjoy it. If you were to ask me straight up, I think that at the present time, Eric Johnson is putting out the best work of any rock guitarist I've heard. If any of you heard him opening for Rush for the RTB tour you can at least relate to what I'm saying. His work is nothing less than pheonominal. Ah Via Musicom is perfect from start to finish, and he doesn't dub in extra guitar parts. Everything is done on one take with one guitar! He has about 10 more years to go though before he can be held at the same level as other greats, at least in most people's eyes. Creating new, innovative and beautiful music over a long period of time is what makes you great. (I'm getting to RUSH) Overall here is what I think, in order: Best Living Guitarist 1)Eddie Van Halen 2)Eric Johnson 3)Joe Satriani 4)Alex Lifeson 5)Steve Morse I suppose I should mension here, that RUSH is without question far and above my favorite band. And Alex may not be technically as superior as some guitarist (maybe he is?) but his solos are so emotional, he more than makes up for it. Here's an abbraviated list of my favorite Rush solos: 1)La Villa Strangiato 2)Limelight 3)Ghost of A Chance 4)Analog Kid 5)Cut to the Chase 6)Freewill 7)Kid Gloves These picks may be common, but that may be saying something. I'm sure on a different day this list would vary slightly, but these are what came to mind first. I think that's what makes a solo great. When I think of these songs, I think of the guitar solo. When a solo defines a song as well as these and many of Lifeson's other solos do, that's quite an accomplishment. What I'm trying to get at is that technical ability enables a guitarist to become great, but alone, does not make him great. If you haven't heard John Petrucci from Dream Theater, you don't know what technique alone can do. And it can do alot. But it's still only about 1/3 of great playing. Throughout all this rambling I've probably gotten no where as usual. But, I wanted to express my opinion. Re:female rush fans Also, there have been complaints about the lack of female Rush fans and here is what I think. If I could print this in some special ink that only men could read I would, but here goes! I've considered myself a Live fan for a couple of years, and still do , but just recently I saw Live live. It was in Ann Arbor, Mi. Let me tell you, there were so many women there it was amazing, which is uncommon for a rock concert. And at certain sections of certain songs, all you could here were the high pitched squeals of infatuated female fans. It may be an overdose of testosterone, but I've always had a hard time taking a band with so many female fans seriously. That's what my roommate terms a 'Girlee Band'. It may not be right to feel this way, but I do. So, it doesn't bother me to hear talk of the lack of female Rush fans. If anything, it makes them part of an exclusive group :The Women who Appreciate Good Music Group. And that makes a girl much more attractive to me than nearly anything else could. So, to all the women who truly love and appreciate Rush, you're beautiful, and to all those of you who don't, go check out Live. PS. YKYAARFW: you use a full can of hair spray each morning just so you can have Permanent Waves! The Hammer (scott neathamer) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 16:23:28 -0400 (EDT) From: MATES PAUL I <94matesp@wave.scar.utoronto.ca> Subject: Rush Tribute Cd Hey Rushies! I think the Idea of a tribute album would be great! Of course, this shouldn't happen until, well...you know. I think we have quite a wait until we ever hear a tribute album, but here are my picks anyway: YYZ-Primus Limelight-The Tragically Hip Time Stand Still-Dream Theater A Farewell to Kings-Dream Theater La Villa Strangiato-Van Halen (sorry Sammy) Tom Sawyer-Metallica 2112-Queensryche Xanadu-Yes Cygnus X-1-Tool Cygnus X-1 BookII-Pink Floyd The Twilight Zone-Pink Floyd Working Man-Megadeth Well, there you go! Make what you will of it. Paul Mates "Rotate the pod please, Hal."-2001 "Ha Ha"-Nelson (Simpsons) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 19:01:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Gunn <dg576@bard.edu> Subject: Neil's ride and playing Howdy all! This is my first post, and after reading TNMS for the past two weeks, thought I would drop my $.02, for what it's worth. Nathan Stewart asked about Neil's ride cymbal in the 20 April posting. It is a 22" Zildjian Ping ride that, according to Lenny Dimuzio at the Zildjian Co., he has been using for more than twenty years. He also uses a similar model on his back kit. If you are really desperate for particulars: it is of medium-heavy weight, and is characterized by a very defined stick sound with a minimum of build-up, or spread, hence the name, Ping. In related news, the continuing debate about Neil being the best or not the best is collapsing into absurdity. In the end (pun definitely not intended), what it really comes down to is taste and compatability. To put someone of a greater technical ability into his position in Rush would certainly be a shame, because Neil and his particular musicality, along with Ged and Alex, is what makes the music so wonderful. Neil would be the first to agree that there are better drummers in the world. That's what makes a musician want to keep playing; there are always new things to learn and new goals to attain. But only he has the certain feel that properly fits the context. So, it's not about who's best, but who's right. One passing thought concerning "The Trees" discussion....Yawn! That is all!! Don Gunn ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 20:12:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Gunn <dg576@bard.edu> Subject: Putting "The Trees" to rest I knew that I had seen this somewhere before. In the Apr/May issue of Modern Drummer magazine, Neil was asked if there was a message in "The Trees". His reply was as follows: No. It was really just a flash. I was working on an entirely different thing when I saw a cartoon picture of these trees carrying on like fools. I thought, "What if trees acted like people?". So I saw it as a cartoon really, and wrote it that way. I think that's the image that it conjures up to a listener or a reader. A very simple statement. Sorry to burst everyone's analytic and deconstructionist bubbles. Don Gunn ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 20:46:06 -0400 From: EyeRate@aol.com Subject: Rush is a BAND!!!! Heinz Reiske SAID: >Hey Rush fans!!! >This is my first post to NMS. > Last week I had the pleasure of attending the RUSH Limbaugh >show. Some of you might feel that this is not such a >pleasurable thing, but I digress. Before the show is actually >filmed, Rush comes out and give an audience briefing, where >everyone gets to ask questions. In the past, Rush has used >some songs by Rush as "bumper music" in between commercial >breaks, and I always wondered if there might be some >sort of connection between the two RUSH's. So, I asked him, >"Are you a Rush fan?" His reply was yes! And Hitler loved children. It's a shame that even on the usually above average literacy level reflected in TNMS that this demigogue appears. Rush is not your typical ROCK band and the fans are not your typical ROCK fans so lets keep our dignity as such and try to stear clear of such nasty topics in the future. eyerate@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: A rush tribute(again!). Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 12:16:43 +0100 From: lc@dcs.st-and.ac.uk To continue the ol' thread of a rush tribute, I think it'd be ace. The only problem, as was mentioned in the last posting, would be (basically) crap covers. This is a problem, but it nevertheless would be nice to see how other artists interpret the boys songs. It would be nice for example to see how a band like (the remaining members of) Led Zeppelin would cope with some of the rush songs. -the first album would be *dead* easy :-). A more interesting point would be an album of rush covering other songs. I think it would be nice if they did a 'The The' type of approach to a particularly influential artists work. It'd be nice to know what other music makes them tick. Obviously if you listen to the music and lyrics as much as I do(a lot!), then it would be great to get to the underlying philosophy of both the lyrics and the music (as these complement each other). Obligatory YKWYAARF : - Knowing that 'Entre nous' is french for 'between us'! - When giving someone directions, being vague enough to be able to say 'Between the sun and moon' to someone. - naming your son 'Geddy Alex Neil Lee Zivojinovich Lifeson Peart'! (aplogies for the spelling!!!!). Songs I'd like to see Rush cover: 'Something' - The Beatles 'Dirty Day' - U2 'Problem child' - AC/DC 'Just like a man' - Del Amitri (If you haven't listened to it already, please DO!!). 'Free Falling' - Tom Petty 'The Electric Co' - U2 (ace song!). TTFN ( Ta Ta For Now!), Luke * St Andrews, Scotland : Nothing wrong with it - not that a good bulldozer couldn't sort anyway! :-) * ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:37:55 -0500 From: lee@mcbi-34.med.nyu.edu Subject: Re: 04/20/95 - The National Midnight Star #1087 >From: Brigge@aol.com >Subject: Roll the Swastika > >"Why did Hitler kill Jews? B/c he did. Roll the Bones!!!!" > ><snip - end of dribble> > >In light of your observations of 'Art' and "individual >interpretation," I would like to know what in the hell >your interpretation of this line is. And how do you >suppose this line fits into the realm of 'Roll the Bones'? Whil this may be an unpleasant example to swallow, the sentiment does fit the theme of RTB, both the song and most of the album. Several songs specifically talk about the indifference of chance, and how coincidence or random events can lay low even the best intentions. Roll the Bones, The Big Wheel, Ghost of A Chance and You Bet Your Life, all specificallt address this, which again just reinforces Neil's belief in free will. One corallary of free will is that, crudely put, shit *still* happens. > >I am suprised at how many people really like the Limelight solo!! >It is a great solo, but one of the easiest to play But that just points out the greatness of this song: its simplicity. I have no musical training, but as a devoted listener, Limelight has always struck me as a relatively simple Rush song. It's also one of my favorites. I guess it proves the adage that sometimes, less is more. -----JDL------------------------------------------------------------------- "The magic of a meoldy runs through you like a stream..." -R.E. "The magic music makes your morning mood." -N.P. "Sometimes, even music cannot substitute for tears." P.S. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 08:55:24 PDT From: arthur@phoenix.phoenix.net Subject: Visions of Rush! Que paso fellow Rushians, I'm probably the only one that does not own a copy of Rush "Visions". If anyone could lead me to a source that I can purchase one (the bookstores look at my like i'm a freak when i ask em), or give me the name/number/address of the publisher, I would be most greatful. A desperate Rush fan, Arthur ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 10:26:19 -0400 From: al568@freenet.carleton.ca (Matthew Brown) Subject: The Power of Rush's Music, a personal experience. The song "Mission" has alway sbeen one of my favorite Rush songs. Even though I never really understood its true mean- ing, I have always been moved by it. I will always remember watching them play it live and how at the end when the three flaming balls faded into the background and the big screen turned into the cover of HYF how it moved me to tears. Well last night I finally discoverd the true meaning of Mission (at least on a personal level). I also now believe that Mission is Rush's most powerful song. I went to see the movie Shawshank Redemption. It is a very powerful and moving picture (get it). As the final credits rolled up the screen , I began to really think about this movie, and its meaning. As I was driving home, I turned on my CD player amd was about to play Red Barchetta, but at the last second, I turned it to Mission from ASOH. As soon as I heard the opening chords, I began to cry again. All of a sudden the song took on a whole new meaning. It was as though this song was made for this movie. By the time Alex was finishing his most beautiful solo, I nearly had to pull over because I could hardly see. I realize that there are a few songs that could relate to this movie, but I feel that Mission is the best. I recommend that everyone see this movie and try to find a Rush song that moves them like Mission did for me. Matt Brown. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 10:20:29 est From: "Dintaman, Donald" <Donald_Dintaman@rsca.com> Subject: VH-1, Don K. and RUSH? Hi all, Last Saturday from like 3-7pm or sometime around then, and each night this week, VH-1 is playing the "Best of Don Kirschners (sp?) Rock Concerts". Does anybody know if they have played the RUSH concert yet or if they are going to play it later this week? I've got a bad copy of the RUSH's act and wouldn't mind recording a good copy from the TV. Later, Donald_Dintaman@rsca.com or ESL2112@aol.com "Heeere's yoour chaaange" -- chashier at McDonald's "Paw Paw Raw Paw's can play some ball" "Watch out Stub, Ryan and I are gonna get ya this summer!!!!!!" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 08:10:06 -0700 From: bytor@cyberquest.com Subject: How I got hooked on the guys From: bytor@cyberquest.com Subject: How I got hooked on the guys To: Rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu Hi all... I first got hooked on the guys when I first moved to Colorado Springs Colorado back in 1980. I had a couple of friends of mine who lived just down the road from me and, well, I had never heard of Rush before I had met them. They lived in a house that had a huge, dark and dingy basement where they slept. The basement was lit with blue and red light bulbs and by no means was the room neat. In fact, it was always a mess. After several beers one evening and snowing outside, they put on the very first album of Rush I had ever heard, "Hemispheres". I was instantly skeptical before they put it on, since I had only been in the country (USA) since 1979 and being from Europe, I was used to listening to bands like ABBA. Rock was not at the top of my list. Needless to say my taste for music was ajumble until I listened to a band called Rush. I as mesmerized by Hemispheres, followed by Moving Pictures and Permanent Waves. Since, 1980 I have accumulated some 345 different Rush Collectables on vinyl and CD. I've seen them 26 times, all over the country...Florida, Colorado, California, Vancouver BC, Washington state, Washington DC, Georgia, Maryland (Landover) and England. My CD Player always has at least 3 Rush CD's at all times (out of 5). All my friends now relate me with Rush, some like it some don't, but they all relate Rush to me, I suppose because I listen to nothing but. I'm thankful to those two brothers back in Colorado, way back in 1980 for introducing me to Rush. Who knows what my life might be like today if I hadn't. I tribute certain events that have taken place in my life on the lyrical content of every Rush album to the way I am today! ************************************ STEVE CAMPBELL / JET CITY TRAVEL INC bytor@cyberquest.com 206 241-1625 800 538-2895 ************************************ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 08:12:30 -0700 From: bytor@cyberquest.com Subject: Where are you? Greetings all! Someone last week sometime posted a few items he wanted to trade. To be specific he had the "not fade away" single I want to trade for (an expensive) GUP Gold Record Award. If you are reading this, E-mail me! ************************************ STEVE CAMPBELL / JET CITY TRAVEL INC Bytor@Cyberquest.com 206 241-1625 800 538-2895 ************************************ ----------------------------------------------------------
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