The National Midnight Star #1052

Date: Wed, Feb 1, 1995 3:29 AM CST From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-to: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu
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Interpretation of BSAM Rush cover bands Chronicles Press Release Different Than Album Re: 01/19/95 - The National Midnight Star #1049 Between Sun and Moon Correct "Madrigal" Lyrics several responses(FAQs,AFTK cover,seats) Re: Mr. Big Van Halen list T-shirts, posters, bootlegs Letters, post cards, and such. Re: Madrigal Mtv, Van Halen & Pits Barenaked Ladies (was Tidbits, NMS 1051) I'm sorry, but.... Superconductor video Vivid 3-D Re: 01/27/95 - Rivendell (none) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 16:32:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Becky Chickering <BECKY@HCACAD.HOLYCROSS.EDU> Subject: Re: Rush new Album Hello, this is my first post here. I want to tell everyone that I was in Strawberries Records and Tapes today and noticed that they had Rush posted as releasing a new album, the date was to be announced however. Can't wait. I have seen their last three tours. Loved everyone of them. The last tour, Counterparts, my husband and I were 8th row! I just happened to call the Centrum for tickets 5 days before their opening night. I still can't believe that I got such awsome seats. Anyways, they were better than seeing Pink Floyd this year! (10 row) Anyways, just thought I would mention that I saw there is a new album coming, but no dates. Becky Holy Cross College Worcester, Mass. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bisbee, Robert T" <rtbisbee@hsv26.pcmail.ingr.com> Subject: RE: BfB in BMG Date: Tue, 24 Jan 95 18:35:00 CST > Burning for Buddy has made it to BMG. The description makes no mention of > Neil Peart, but it does talk about "legendary drummers performing big band > arrangements." The catalog # is 106177. ($14.98 for CD, $9.98 for cassette). Noteworthy Music has it listed for $12.48 + S&H for the CD. Their Web page is http://www.netmarket.com/noteworthy/bin/main/ for those who surf the Web. -- Robert Bisbee rtbisbee@ingr.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jan 95 18:28:30 CST From: Timbob@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu Subject: Rush doing covers Rush playing a Primus song? Gag! I personally wouldn't want to see Rush stoop to covering ANYBODY. If they were to, however, I would much rather see them cover a band that influenced them, like Cream, Zepp, ELP, etc. Tim ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 19:12:05 CST From: pattersonjk@alpha.hendrix.edu Subject: a little bit of everything First off, in regards to High Water and Fountain, perhaps (if such a connection does indeed exist) Neil and the boys wished to sneak in an example. Consider: if everything indeed comes from water, then the results would all have that in common. With that familiar ground, these "results" might be able to evolve and progress in itself. Could High Water be a evolved son of Fountain. Both did "come from water," so could Neil be making the point that we all have something in common, using the similiar melody to symbolize this common ground? Could we be reading too much into this? Oh well, Mike i keep trying to write you back at "s72udra@toe. towson.edu" but it isn't working. This is in return to you "Story of Kings" letter your sent me Third of all, Mark, if you or anyone else needs the sheet music to any song from Rush to Signals, let me know. Just lettin' you know. Finally, my request: (i don't have the faq close at hand, so i'm sorry if this is addressed in it) is there any recording of those classic Rush originals "Fancy Dancer" and "Garden Lady?" Basically, all the pre-"Rush" songs, from the Coff-In days. Also, are there any good recordings of any show before the "Down The Tubes" Tour? Many thanks, Keath pattersonjk@alpha.hendrix.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 20:58:34 -0600 (CST) From: Tom Servo <GUNSAUA7823@cobra.uni.edu> Subject: The Trees... HELP!!! Can somebody please tell me what the chords are in the middle of The Trees during the "wood blocks" sequence. The time is 5/4 and the root chords of the song around that part are A, B and G--but I can't figure out what they are. If they are odd chords, please describe the fingering, as I am a drummer with minimal knowledge of Alex's chords. Also, please send directly to my e-mail address gunsaua7823@cobra.uni.edu -- I don't always get through all the NMS's. Thanks. Aaron ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 23:31:06 -0600 (CST) From: "J. Baker" <jjbaker@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> Subject: New Album I have news for those of you who keep asking about the new album. WE DON'T HAVE A CLUE! so quit asking and spreading rumors. If you think you heard about the "new album" from somewhere, name the source for christ sake. I would be willing to bet that these new album reports are all heard from you little brothers or your mothers, and not from reputable sources like Anthem. If I see one more post on TNMS about album rumors, Im going to throw away all of my Rush shit and blame you for it. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 14:10:46 -0600 (CST) From: DRFULLER@ualr.edu Subject: Best Concert "Seats" and Don Kirchner Yo Rush Fanatics! I was just reading TNMS #1050 and was interested in what Michael Eltz and Frank had to say. I'd like to respond to them. First, Michael: Listen up, young wippersnapper! Back in the old days, sonny, before the Who "invented" floor seats, most concerts were general admission, aka "festival style." Basically, what this meant was first come, first served. The main floor was typically devoid of any seats, so everyone brave enough would simply stand there. The very first time I saw Rush (March 8, 1977), the show at the Norfolk (VA) Scope was general admission (as I've stated previously in TNMS, they backed up Kansas and played the tune "2112" in its entireity). I was one of the first 50 or so people to get in, so I ended up about six to eight feet from the stage (as I recall, stage center to be exact). Almost every single concert I ever attended in the 70s was general admission, and I'd make dang sure I'd be one of the first admitted. Very seldom did I ever end up more than 12 to 15 feet from the stage (except for Led Zeppelin; the rush-- pardon the pun-- was so great I decided to take the first risers and live!). I was never disappointed with my "seat," but my good fortune then is my bad fortune now, as I have a very distinct lessened sensitivity to sound (that means I have a hearing loss for anyone who may be "vocabularily-challenged."). <-- I hope that didn't sound too sarcastic; I meant it as a joke, but I'm really in a pissy mood. I drove 7 hours roundtrip from Little Rock to Fayetteville to see the Razorbacks lose their first game (to Alabama of all things!) in beautiful Bud Walton Arena! Look's like there's going to be a new national champion this year. But I digress-- anyway, the 70s were definitely the good ol' days of concert attending. I've seen Rush 13 more times since that first show, and the closest I've ever come was about 15 rows back. I don't remember for sure, but my faulty memory tells me that I've been on the main floor probably half of the Rush shows I've seen. I've also been as far away as the very back of the coliseum. Actually, in some places (e.g., Reunion Arena in Dallas) I prefer being in the back because the sound seems to be so much better there. However, as with everything there's a trade-off. What I get in sound I give up in seeing the band members playing their instruments (I try to see at least two shows of every tour so I can zero-in on Neil in one show, and then gather the gestalt of the entire show during the other). "Nuf said, I suppose. To Frank: Ah, a kindred spirit! I remember Don Kirchner's Rock Concert very well, in addition to "The Midnight Special" (with Wolfman Jack as host) and ABC's "In Concert." I was partial to "In Concert," but I managed to see the others from time to time. I don't recall ever seeing Rush on any of these shows. Of course, another late night staple for us dope infested hippies in those days (please remember, dear fellow Rushies, I grew up in the early to mid 70s when "Just Say No" was what Nancy kept reminding herself whenever Ronnie wanted a little boody) was Roller Derby. I know this has very little to do with Rush, but I'm trying to lay down a little history for our younger friends out there. There was nothing in living that could quite compare to tokin' a doobie, watching Charlie O'Connor and the LA Thunderbirds bust a little head on roller skates, and then capping the evening off to a little rock'n'roll on "In Concert" or any of the other similar shows. (You younger people out there can substitute WWF Wrestling for Roller Derby and probably get a similar feel for how it was in the 70s.) Anyway, my personal favorite segment on "In Concert" was when the entire evening was devote to Cat Stevens. Cat Stevens was like an older brother to me during my turbulent teenage phase, but I never had the chance to see him at a live concert. I'll have to accept his appearance on "In Concert" as my one opportunity to see him "live." Is anyone out there getting the impression that I tend to digress *alot*?-- All of these TV concert shows served a very valuable purpose in the 70s for kids like me who lived in the sticks and had very few opportunities to see live music. I doubt that Rush ever played on one of these shows. They had a relatively small following in the 70s (at least compared to the 80s and today), so I just can't see network execs falling over each other to give Rush exposure on American TV back then. If however, they really did play on one of these shows, I'd be extremely interested in knowing it, and how to get a copy of the segment should one be available. Later Rushmates! Dino (The Rock'n'Roll Dinosaur) "Each of us, a cell of awareness Imperfect and incomplete Genetic blends with uncertain ends On a fortune hunt that's far too fleet." GO SCUMSUCKING HOGS GO !!! ================================================================================ For the free-spirited of you out there, and as a tribute to those wonderful years that shaped this clay of a human I call myself, I offer the following verse (sung somewhat to the tune of "My Favorite Things"). Hit it, maestro: Choc-o-late milkshakes and Three Muskateers Three or four doobies And plenty of beer List'ning to Rush and getting a buzz Teens in the 70s, that's how it was! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 14:27:04 -0600 (CST) From: STEVE SMITS <SMITSM@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu> Subject: Alex Rules The World According to Foundations magazine: (latest issue) Alex Lifeson will be on the album: The Guitars That Rule the World Volume 2. Also appearing on the album are: Billy Sheehan, J. from White Zombie, Jack Owen from Cannibal Corpse, and Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumkins. The release is due out sometime this summer. ******************************************************************************** * "Ravage, plunder, see no wonder, rape, kill and tear asunder... * Chop the forest, plow it under..." Kansas - 1975 * * *** Always interested in trading Kansas shows *** * Steve Smits Smitsm@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu ******************************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- From: ahern@sphere.llnl.gov (Sean Ahern) Subject: Re: AFTK cover and other stuff Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 14:58:15 -0800 (PST) In the NMS # 1050, Tony Dormio writes: > [stuff deleted ] Unfortunately, I heard something in the way Geddy that > sang the lyrics to Madrigal that doesn't quite sit well with me. (Oh > God, hear I go again. pick pick pick) > > He sings the line "There's no supporting view" but pronounces > "supporting" like this - Saypporting. Ouch! I can't listen to that > anymore. Well, the reason it sounds like that is because the line is not "There's no supporting view". The line is actually "There's no SAFE PORT IN view". -Sean -- __ . ahern@llnl.gov ( _ _.._ /||_ _ ._._ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory __)(/_(_|| ) /-|| )(/_| | ) WWW: http://ccnet.com/~ahern/ ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Rumors Argggghhhhh!!!!!! From: DHUART@midas.sinclair.edu Date: 26 Jan 95 10:34:46 EST Hello all, The rumor mill has now rolled into Dayton Ohio, much to my dismay I was riding around the other night and the 7-12 jock on TUE comes on blathering something about a new *live album* from his favorite band ( Rush, who else??). What is more is that his source is the ( RUSH ..Who else??). Further more he explains to me that CD Con- nection ( a local record store ) is his source. I CAN'T STAND RUMORS LIKE THIS !!!!!!! Rush-mgr can you once and for-all confirm or deny this ..... please. For my sanity's sake....Thank you. [ CD Connection?? That's a bootleg place in Germany, they put out live recordings of all sorts of bands. And they're not exactly legal here in the U.S.... : rush-mgr ] Oh yeah the disc jockey says mid-feb for a release date..... I'm gonna have melt down ........ As for you Spotty (Art), yes it tis true I am older than you, and I am sure Dino, and Bruce agree with me on my nexI have been on this planet longer than you, and along with Dino, Bruce, and Duane, I realize that most of the folks on this list are younger than ourselves (Mid 30's), more power to you all and keep the Rush flame alight , I say!! Art, when we all get together again (hopefully soon), lose the tutu, or at least the pink one...... I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK - I sleep all night and I work all day. I'm out .... PEACE?!! I'm out .... PEACE !!! dave h ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 10:27:39 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Francis McGovern <randbass@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> Subject: Interpretation of BSAM Being a lover of good lyrics, I've spent a good deal of time analyzing BSAM with friends and alone- taking into account the Professor's philosophical underpinnings and the theme of duality on the album I've developed the following interpretation: The song is a call for moderation or at the very least, a call for appreciating the complexity of this world. While I don't have the lyrics in front of me now, I will do my best to illustrate why this interp. is valid. The lyrics in the verses are a barrage of contrasting images or states of mind. The line "the place between wonder and why" represents the fact that there is a balance, however precarious. The place in between the two states we constantly find ourselves in when faced with a decision. At first we wonder - but Neil appears to be criticizing the human tendency to have to put things in black and white - the fact we always have a tendency to oversimplify things and thusly, deprive ourselves of the freedom of inquiry and investigation. This seems to go along with Neil's classically liberal views (Enlightenment liberalism). The chorus - Neil is simply asking why must we make these arbitary choices - why must we always have an absolute answer. The sun just represents one choice. The "Ahh Ahh Yes to Yes": (I could be guilty of reading to much into Neil's lyrics at this point) but what do we say when we find what we think is THE ANSWER. We say, "Ah, yes of course." We pretend as if it were always right in front of us and that there is no questioning it. The bridge "..some need to pray to..": this is a key part. Neil needs a break from the "black and white" nature of this world - he has been reborn and baptised with a never ending desire to inquire. The second verse is complicated but still the theme of the state between two distinct entities. The state of limbo we find ourselves in when confronted with love, for example. I realize fully that this verse does sit perfectly with interpretation above, but these are just rock song lyrics as Neil would be the first to admit. Not a perfect interpretation.... but, I think its as close as we can come without the Professor himself telling us. To sum up and clarify the above: Neil is saying that there's a place in between all varying emotions and choices - and that it behooves us to find that place - not just to fall prey to our instictive desire to oversimplfy. Comments, questions? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregg Ulrich <gulrich@us.oracle.com> Subject: Rush cover bands Date: Wed, 25 Jan 95 7:38:37 PST > Anyway, I read a message around New Year's about someone going to see > "Power Windows" (RUSH cover band) near the Meadowlands the first week > of January. I was wondering how the show was. I saw this band about > two years ago when they were called "2112". I was really disappointed > with them. The place was empty -- 1st sign. The sound was awful, and > wayyy too loud -- 2nd sign. And the singer's voice was just too high. > Yeah, that's right, too high, even for Geddy. They were, well....not > good. I just wanted to know if they've gotten any better, have the same > lineup, etc. Power Windows and 2112 are two different bands (at least they are now). Here is my "non-musician" opinions of the two: 2112 Musician-wise this was the stronger band. There were three members (bassist/keyboard, guitar/singer, drummer). The bassist was excellent, given the material he had to cover. The drummer was adequate (after all there is only one Neil Peart) The guitar player was right on, but his voice was *annoyingly* high. It got hard to listen to after a while. In their favor, they had an excellent command of Rush material. They did obscure songs like "Different Strings" and "Farewell to Kings", as well as the standards. They even took requests, doing some accoustic stuff while the drummer fixed his set. The drummer did the obligatory Peart drum solo, but probably shouldn't have. Power Windows Four members (bassist/singer, drummer, guitar, keyboard). Each member was competant enough, but there were no stand out musicians. The singer is much more tolerable, played a Rickenbacker, and almost looked like Geddy Lee (with a small nose). Their set was very typical, with "Natural Science" the only surprise. There were plenty of visuals in the Power Windows show, including a keyboard player that looks like Chris Elliot, a guitar player with big hair, and a slide show with various Rush images. Put PoW's singer in 2112 and you would have a decent Rush cover band. Both bands brought in a decent crowd and the die-hard Rush fans seemed to enjoy both shows. Go check both of them out. I give them a lot of credit for not embarrassing themselves. If anyone know any Rush cover bands in the SF Bay area (or better yet a Yes cover band), please let me know (gulrich@us.oracle.com). Please forgive all spelling mistakes, Gregg Ulrich CDE Tools Development Oracle Procedure Builder (415) 506 6470 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: David Morrison <morrisda@martin.luther.edu> Subject: Chronicles Press Release Different Than Album Date: Wed, 25 Jan 95 11:50:32 EST I was just looking through the TNMS first anniversary issue, and there was mention of the Chronicles Press Release which mentions: - Take Off featuring Geddy Lee (from Bob & Doug - Great White North) after Limelight and before APTB on the second Chronicles album. Does anyone know what/how/why this was changed? It would've made addition, but alas, I guess it got cut... -- __________________. __ Finger for PGP key! _ - David Morrison :' _ o __ __o/ _ - morrisda@luther.edu ; / //\ __ -\<, _ - Independant Multimedia CD : \>> | _ _ _0/ 0 _ _ _ _ - ROM Developer (319) 387-0733 : \\, ------------------------------------------------------------' ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Jan 95 23:52:34 PST From: nathan j hickok <HICKOK@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU> Subject: Re: 01/19/95 - The National Midnight Star #1049 Hey guys, first i'd like to say thanx for all the responses on female RUSH fans , my gf still isint convinced but oh well. Anyhoo, i just wanted to say something about the RUSH IS A BAND! bumpersticker s. i live just south of spokane, WA. the stickers are for a local rock station by the name of KEZE (i think 105.7). the problem is i cant seem to find them an ywhere...bummer huh. Well i work in a print shop and one thing we do there is t extile printing. so, unbeknownst to my supe, i and another guy just made our ow n. if you want some just go and check out how much it costs to print up some... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 20:04:25 -0600 From: s851001@umslvma.umsl.edu (Ed Blonski) Subject: Between Sun and Moon Greetings my compatriots! Here's a wild guess about Between Sun and Moon on Counterparts. Could this song have *something* to do with the J.R.R. Tolkien short story "The Tale of Sun and Moon"? I just downloaded the gif from a 1984 Tolkien calender that was titled "Sun and Moon". There's something familiar about the picture. For me it sort of fits with the song. If you want to get the picture, its available FTP at: lajkonik.cyf-kr.edu.pl the library is /agh/reserve/gifs/tolkien Just a few thoughts, I'll be quiet now! Ed --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Blonski (s851001@umslvma.umsl.edu) "One likes to believe in the Rush fan (the band and the man!) Freedom of Email!" TNMS Titus 1:5-9 "One humanoid escapee" NP --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Jan 95 00:53:47 -0500 From: frowe@wrdis01.robins.af.mil (GS-13 Francis Rowe MR) Subj: 01/30/95 - The National Midnight Star #1052 Date: Wed, Feb 1, 1995 3:29 AM CST From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-to: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu Subject: Correct "Madrigal" Lyrics For Tony Dormio, who says (in TNMS 1050): >He sings the line "There's no supporting view" but pronounces >"supporting" like this - Saypporting. Ouch! I can't listen >to that anymore. It just edged out Rivendell for last >place. IHMO, of course. Tony, get out your "horrible" album and reread the lyric sheet. The lyric you're so PO'd about is "When all around is madness and there's no SAFE PORT IN VIEW I long to turn my path homeward to stop awhile with you" This is not intended as a flame, and you're certainly entitled to your opinion (aren't we all?) - but if you're gonna gripe about something, first get yer facts straight. 8-) Frank "To err is human; to forgive is against Army policy" - US Army personnel manual (not really, it just feels that way on bad days) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Jan 95 10:28:38 EST From: ASQM-SWP-G (Galaxy) <gal002@monmouth-emh1.army.mil> Subject: several responses(FAQs,AFTK cover,seats) Good day, all... I'd like to first address several questions from the FAQ. I'm new to TNMS, so if these have been covered in the past, forgive me and bare with me. 1. Where did the name "Rush" come from? Well, the band just got a paying gig. They were sitting around in John Rutsey's basement trying to come with a name. they couldn't think of anything when "John's older brother piped up, 'Why don't you call the band RUSH?' and RUSH it was." Note: Geddy wasn't even in the band yet; the lineup was Alex, John Rutsey, and Jeff Jones (who??). 2. Where did By-Tor's name come from? Roadmanager Howard Ungerleider came up with it at a party Manager Ray Daniels had. Ray had two dogs, a German Shepherd with big fangs and a little "white nervous dog". Howard called the shepherd By-Tor because he would bite anyone who walked in. The night of the party, he started biting Howards legs while they were eating and he started screaming "By-Tor". The other dog was "real neurotic, constantly barking and jumping all over you." Since he was a snow dog, henceforth the pair was known as "By-Tor and the Snowdog". 3. Where does the name Rocinante come from? Rocinante was name of Steinbeck's motor home in "Travels with Charlie", and it was the name of Don Quixote's horse. 4. What do the French lyrics in "Circumstances" mean? Simple, read the next two lines of the song. 5. Is Rivendell a real place? No. It's the city of elves in Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings". Now I'd just like to respond to a couple of recent digest entries: First, there was someone wondering about the cover to AFTK. Well, it's actually two separate pictures matted together. The foreground was taken at a demolished warehouse in Buffalo, NY. the background is the Toronto skyline. Nothing was under construction. In fact, roadmanager Howard Ungerleider was very confused by the cover since he lives in one of the buildings in the skyline. Second, I believe Michael Eltz was interested in "Great seat..." stories. Well, first of all, I've been a RUSH fan since, oh, forever now. A drummer friend of mine turned me on to them. I've seen RUSH 19 times, from Springfield,MA to Phila,PA. So, if this 20th anniversary tour happens, I'll see my 20th show for their 20th anniversary. Anyway, I saw RUSH in the spring of 1986 at the Meadowlands -- IN THE FRONT ROW...right in front of Geddy. I was so close I was able to count his nostril hairs; there's a lot by the way, I lost count. But it was parted on the right side. The show was phenomenal (of course). I saw everything. The guitar work 10 feet away. The stage was at about eye-level, so I was able to see everything Neil did. I noticed then that his feet were hitting the electronic triggers as well as the bass drums and high-hat. It was GREAT. I was able to see Geddy and Alex' facial expressions, to each other and the crowd, the joking, the kidding. During the encore, in "In the Mood", Alex and Geddy run to opposite sides of the stage. So there was Alex now, in front of me, and someone a few seats down holds up a pad and pen; Alex looks at him, looks left, looks right (seemed he looked right at me), then points at the kid and starts laughing. it was my best show bar none. Since then, I won't sit on the floor unless it's within the first 10 rows. and as long as I'm in the stadium when they're playing -- "i'm inspired and content" Note: info above was from memory of various interviews and any quotes from "RUSH:Visions, The Official Biography" (1988 edition) Sorry for the length and if I rehashed some old subjects. John P. Penna "the mad immortal man..." gal002@monmouth-emh1.army.mil ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott David Daly <skipdaly@wam.umd.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 14:14:19 -0500 Subject: Re: Mr. Big Hola! damonh@sewickley-acad.pvt.k12.pa.us (Damon Hudac) wrote: >I don't believe Mr. Big was around when PoW came out, as a matter of >fact, I'm almost sure of it. So I think you have the Mr. Bigs >confused. However, they ARE mentioned on the RTB liner notes, and I >know that on the RTB tour, Mr. Big opened for them, I know this >because I saw them. The Mr. Big references around the time of POWER WINDOWS are referring to the band's producer at the time, Peter Collins. "Mr. Big" was the band's nickname for him. (As Neil said at the time, the nickname fit perfectly because "he even smokes big cigars..."). -Skip ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Jan 95 19:49:43 CST From: Timbob@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu Subject: Van Halen list Since I know that there are VH fans on the NMS list, I just wanted to let everyone know that I discovered a VH list. email listserv@cornell.edu with the following in the body: subscribe vanhalen-l yourfirstname yourlastname Currently, there are some fairly ignorant people on there. I was hoping to recruit some intelligent, musician-type VH fans (like the ones that would also listen to Rush, instead of the ones that would also listen to Vince Neil!). Maybe we could try and make this list half as cool as the NMS! Respond, Vibrate, Feedback, Resonate! Tim ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 21:41:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Edward T Schreiner <eschrein@s850.mwc.edu> Subject: T-shirts, posters, bootlegs first things, does anyone know of a store in either the boston, ma area or else somewhere in the northern virginia area that definitely carries rush merchandise, such as posters or t-shirts. i have looked around a lot for rush t-shirts and can't seem to find any. i'd like a _roll the bones_, _hold your fire_ or _presto_ t-shirt the most, but if anybody knows anyplace that has any rush t-shirts, i'd be happy to know. i also am looking for rush posters, as i really need to decorate my dorm room. secondly, does anyone know if there's a bootleg around somewhere with a live version of "prime mover" on it. its on the _a show of hands_ video, so i know they play it live, but unfortunately its not on ASOH on cd. i absolutely love that song and think it sounds even better live. if somebody knows of a bootleg, tell me where they think i may be able to get it. thanks so much. reply to me privately, please. -ed "i set the wheels in motion..." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Whipple, Steven J (Steve)" <sjwhippl@po5.pcmail.ingr.com> Subject: Letters, post cards, and such. Date: Wed, 25 Jan 95 18:28:00 CST Hello all! I thought it might be interesting to consolidate any mail that TNMSers have received from the Boys. If you have any correspondence that you'd be willing to share, please send transcriptions to me personally. I'll coalesce all that I receive and will be willing to send the resulting compilation to anyone who's interested (including posting it here if people want me to). Because there is no way for me to verify the validity of any submissions (short of asking folks to mail xerox copies, which I will not do), I ask that all pranksters and idiots please refrain from sending me fabricated letters. Thanks. -Steve Whipple e-mail address: sjwhippl@po5.pcmail.ingr.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott David Daly <skipdaly@wam.umd.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 14:10:22 -0500 Subject: Re: Madrigal TDORMIO+aROCKVILLE%Rockville@mcimail.com wrote: >Unfortunately, I heard something in the way Geddy that sang the >lyrics to Madrigal that doesn't quite sit well with me. (Oh God, >hear I go again. pick pick pick) He sings the line "There's no >supporting view" but pronounces "supporting" like this - >Saypporting. Ouch! I can't listen to that anymore. Well, you might like it better if you quote what it actually says: "There's no safe port in view" >It just edged out Rivendell for last place. I happen to like Rivendell. Just have to be in the right frame of mind for it. It's definitely a "mood song"...try putting it on late at night when you're tired... -Skip ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 21:38:24 CST From: dubi6688@uwwvax.uww.edu Subject: Mtv, Van Halen & Pits Hello all. It's been awhile since I wrote in, but have been an avid subscriber to the NMS for 3 semesters now. First off, in response to M(oron)tv thread about the music bed for the Real World, in 1990-92, one of their music beds for the VJ's was "Show Don't Tell". I found it hard to believe that Mtv would use Rush for a Music Bed, but rarely play their videos. Next, if you've pick up/seen Van Halen's "Balance", look in the liner notes & you'll notice that their now managed by Ray Daniels of S.R.O. Productions, the same manager for Rush. I'm a bass player & have the same set up as Geddy had way back when; Rickenbacker 4001 & a Fender head. Sounds just like his earlier stuff. Anyway, has anyone ever noticed on "In The End", the bass part is a lot lower than a normal tuned electric bass? A few people agree w/ me that it's an upright bass. & to add to the "Circumstances" thread, yes, the bass part is very hard to play, if you don't have speed or the knowledge of Geddy's work. Finally, why would anyone want to slam/mosh at a Rush show? The point of going to concerts, esp. Rush, is to enjoy the music, not to see how many people you can hurt/bleed. Nikolai ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 23:08:06 -0500 From: mahoncb0@seraph1.sewanee.edu (Chris Mahoney) Subject: Barenaked Ladies (was Tidbits, NMS 1051) Hi, about Barenaked Ladies "covering" a bit of Tom Sawyer...I'm from Canada, and two summers ago I saw a CBC special on the Ladies where they talked about their influences for a few minutes, and I remember them saying, "At one point in our lives, it was Rush, Rush, nothing but Rush!" Then it showed a clip of them playing live -- and they were playing Tom Sawyer. Who knows about copyright...but with the Ladies, it could be called satire, I 'spose. --prost!-- Chris ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 00:31:09 -0500 From: jgoldman@aurora.liunet.edu Subject: I'm sorry, but.... Howdy All, I'll apologize beforehand for the explicit non-Rush content. Does anybody know what Yes has in store for the future? I saw their last North American show at Madison Square Garden last September, but I have not heard anything of them since. Any word is appreciated, and once again, sorry for no Rush. [ Please direct any replies directly to the poster, anyone who would like the mailing address of the Yes list please let me know. : rush-mgr ] Lerxst L EEEEE RRRRR X X SSSSS TTTTT "Fate is just the weight L E R R X X S T of circumstances..." L EEE RRRRR X SSSSS T -N. Peart L E R R X X S T LLLLL EEEEE R R X X SSSSS T jgoldman@aurora.liunet.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Jan 95 01:55:09 EST From: dennisfp@cris.com (Dennis Pupello II) Subject: Superconductor video Does anybody still have the Superconductor video on tape? If so, and you're willing to give me your address, I'll gladly send a blank videocassette, $3 to cover postage, and my groveling thanks if you could mail it back to me. Please respond to either: dennisfp@cris.com or dpupello@tbag.tscs.com Thanks! Weigh your opponent before attempting to drop him. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Jan 95 02:13:18 EST From: dennisfp@cris.com (Dennis Pupello II) Subject: Vivid 3-D I recently bought a Vivid-3D sound device for my computer, and man, not only does it create kickin' Doom and Descent sounds, but it rocks for playing Rush through headphones or little speakers. Using the 'mono' setting on Hemispheres causes Ged's bass to become more pronounced than I've ever heard, even with an excellent CD/Stereo combo. And using the 'stereo' setting brings out little effects that you may have never noticed before. Subtle things, what Quincy Jones would call ear candy. You Vivid 3-D owners, check it out :> Weigh your opponent before attempting to drop him. DP ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "RON BRATIS" <EGBRATIS@ruby.indstate.edu> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 11:57:34 EST Subject: Re: 01/27/95 - Rivendell Hey NMS'ers, Leela wrote in about Rivendell, something about Alex's understated guitar work nicely complimenting Geddy's classical guitar. Are you saying that Alex just does the electric guitar with volume pedal stuff, while Geddy actually plays the main part? I know the liner notes on that album say Geddy plays classical guitar, but I doubt he plays the main part on any song (except he plays lead at the end of Xanadu in concert). Just wanted to know if you had definitive knowledge of this, or if you were just guessing. Anybody who can speak to this, please let us know. - Ron Bratis (Indiana State University grad student) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 12:39:07 -0500 From: smurtuza@chem.psu.edu (Shahid Murtuza) While paging through the Counterparts tourbook, I noticed (as I'm sure many have), that in the concert photos, Ged is wearing something in his ear. It's black and could be an earplug (hazards of the business), but I'm more inclined to think that it's an *earphone*, perhaps playing a clicker track, though maybe not because there are no wires. Anybody know? (Anybody want a peanut?) -Shahid Murtuza smurtuza@chem.psu.edu Analog Kid -------------------------------------- "My daddy's boots don't fit me 'Cause I'm bigger than him." ----------------------------------------------------------
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