The National Midnight Star #1042

Date: Wed, Dec 21, 1994 1:33 PM CST From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-to: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu
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Rush gets me an "A" fitting cd tracks on a tape Re: Neil's Drumming Answer to Marcin Dobrucki's "HEAVY 100" Rush in a Marching Band... Dewey Defeats Truman! CD Review DISC of the MONTH VOICES THAT WHISPER.... you don't know me Re: Neil a LIbertarian Rush. What they can mean to some people. Lyrics to Didacts & Narpets/ATWAS double record set FIRST POSTING RE: 12/15/94 - The National Midnight Star #1039 NEW ALBUM Innovation (none) Happy Holidays You Hosers $0.02 + tax Re: Neil's Grammer Re: Neil a Libertarian emissions, heroes & drugs Babbling.... The Spirit of Rush ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 19:14:34 -0500 From: Rob4drums@aol.com Subject: Some Questions about Neil. I've got a few questions that I can't seem to find the answer to. 1) I know that Neil uses A.Zildian cymbals. I heard that he helped design the "Rock" crashes. Is this what he uses?? Are all his cymbals brilliant finish?? 2)Besides a couple of months ago, (assuming that he was), when was the last time he was on the cover of modern drummer? Or at least , the last time he has been interviewed w/ his set that he uses....his old set i suppose. I really really like his drum sound on Exit ....stage Left. P.s. Neil will be on the cover of modern drummer next month for the making of Burning for buddy !! THANKS ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Dec 94 23:16:17 EST From: Steve Gadless <SGAD7179@URIACC.URI.EDU> Subject: Re: 12/13/94 - The National Midnight Star #1037 Hey Rush-Mgr...you screwed up! Archives didn't have any of 2112 on it, it was a compilation of Rush, FBN, and COS in their entirety. Sorry to be critical but I just thought the masses should know. :) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 01:06:54 -0500 From: CHRISVOSS@aol.com Subject: RUSH IMPORTS I am looking for CD's of the following Rush imports from Italy: -A right to a passage -Diamonds in the Waste -Spirit of st. louis (is this one better than La Villa) -Superconductor Please e-mail me at CHRISVOSS@AOL.COM -Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Dec 94 10:03:31 GMT From: J.Screaton@sheffield.ac.uk (James Screaton) Subject: The Rush-mgr can't be wrong :) Hi All, Just a bit of perverse delight in finding the rush-mgr to be slightly innaccurate :)) > 3. People've been whining about Chronicles being bad/good/ > unproper collection etc. Hasn't there been a relase before > (1978 or something) called Rush Archives? I haven't seen > in anywhere around here.. can someone tell me if it was any > better? > > [ All it contained was FBN, COS and 2112 *in their entirety*, kind of a > three-in-one set... : rush-mgr ] Now I know you really meant to say that it contained RUSH, FBN & COS in their entirety. I know this as I bought it many years ago, as I didn't have enough money to buy them individually, at the time. I don't really mean to take the P***, by the way, I think you do a great job !! Also, >Any MIDI people out there that can help me find the sound for the beginning >of Tom Sawyer for my keyboard. My band does that song live, and while I have >a reasonable substitue, I want to get the real thing. I don't have any >oberheim, or however you spell it, equipment, but if anyone knows where to >get the approximate sample, or even how to program my Ensoniq TS10 to get >that sound, I would be grateful to say the least. Anyone who likes keyboards >in general can also email me. Thanks again.--Damon Fibraio, >s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu. I think that is probably a Mini Moog, so you may be able to get a sample for that, but I'm not sure where from (sorry!). It's a hard sound to create with modern digital synth's, as they don't have the "rawness" of analog keyboards. The same goes for valve amps/transistor amps, as Alex has recently agreed with, by using Marshall's again (shout's of delight). Enough rambling from me, James ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 14 Dec 94 09:06:15 EST From: Peter Chestna <70744.1545@compuserve.com> Subject: The holy grail of Rush boots!!! Two posts in as many weeks, more posts than I've made in as many years!! This subject bears bringing up every year or so...maybe someday we'll get lucky. I have been making my own boots since Power Windows and have been actively trading with people around the world since Hold Your Fire and I find it INCREDIBLE that of all the boots I have or have access to...NEVER has anyone I know seen a Caress of Steel boot!!! This is amazing if you think about it, I mean there are recordings of Rush on their first tour, even their first show, but nothing from the third album tour?? If there are any of you out there who know about a COS boot, you have access to what would be the most sought after Rush bootleg recording EVER! I haven't read the FAQL in about three years, but to RUSH newbies, this vital tidbit of information may help us all uncover a COS boot. Maybe it could be added...something like: ALERT, if you or anyone you know has a COS boot, contact the NMS immediately, you have found the equivalent of GOLD!!! What do you think rush-mgr??? I know this really isn't a FAQL type thing, but we need to broaden the search... [ Well, anything is possible. We even have three *confirmed* COS tour dates now, and one tentative! (thanks bruce!!) so you never know... : rush-mgr ] Pete P.S. If you do actually find one, I will personally come to your house to shake your hand and get a copy. Not Kidding, and probably not the only one!! It would be like those nuts that say that the Virgin Mary appears in their back yard, weeding their garden!! Your house would be swamped with people. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 10:28:14 -0500 (EST) From: PARMERTERB@hartwick.edu Subject: SoR/Hugh Syme/misc. A whole bunch of responses to #1037: Michael Goldberg asked: 2) Do the lasers ever form a significant shape or pattern: Well, starting with the P/g tour they used lasers (up to the RTB tour) and on the P/g tour the lasers did various things: formed "x" shapes on the stage (and pulsed in time to The Enemy WIthin), formed the "P/g" for Between the Wheels, etc. After that tour though they really were just used as a complement to the lights and didn't make any designs of their own - except for Limelight where it would make spirally shapes on the rear screen (btw, that's where the P/g thing was done too). 3) Would you buy a record from their sons/daughters: Well, since I'm one of those "have to have anything related" collectors then I'd have to get it just because of the relation. It'd be cool if it was a weird type of music though - like the Boys Brigade or something! They were cool! Anyone know if the Boys Brigade was ever released on CD? 4) Please no movies or Saturday Night Live, etc. *(*(*(*(*( Dan (ddmodell@mailbox.syr.edu) I hope you were joking about Hugh Syme. Hugh is one of the best graphic designers around (IMVHO) and if they ever do an album without his artwork then I will be very sad! We don't want another "RUSH" album cover do we? *(*(*(*( This is directed to Stewart G. from SoR: (you may remember me from Albany & Rochester - with Chris Kay and the B-man) Has the latest issue of SoR been distributed to the US yet? I renewed a few months back and I've got an article with Howard in this new issue every one in the UK is telling me about but I haven't seen it yet. email me please if you can! parmerterb@hartwick.edu *(*(*(*( Rush-mgr I know that you are very very very very busy but this is the second time I've had to correct you in a month >:-) Archives (1978) had the full albums of Rush, Fly By Night, & Caress of Steel - not 2112! *(*(*(*( Finally, no one ever replied to my question about Alex playing the riff in Xanadu on his 12 string in 1981 (on the Exit...vid) but on the Cp tour with the 6 string. (this riff is the one where he walks over to Ged's side of the stage) - Is it maybe because he has been playing it on the 6 since the Presto tour or what? Adios! Brad - alexmeister vonBastille "rock and roll till you lose control..." - 1973g.lee ---------------------------------------------------------- From: alca@stud.uni-sb.de (Alexander Caviedes) Subject: drugs II Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 16:59:36 +0100 (CET) OK, I checked the FAQ before I ask where the drug dealer story (an interesting one, though I don't indulge myself) in "Passage to Bangkok" comes from and whether the members indorse it. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 14 Dec 1994 09:37:09 GMT From: "Michael R Kizer" <2N18004@ccmail.emis.hac.com> Subject: RE: MST 3000 Rush references... In response to Eric Wooten's note about Mystery Science Theater 3000's reference to "Serum, the album by Rush" in one of their episodes, I remember another Rush reference. It was for the movie "Alien from LA" starring(?) Kathy Ireland (yes the super model). There is a scence where these three long haired guys are standing behind a desk, and one of the robots says, "look its the guys from Rush" or something similar. It was pretty funny because one or two of them did kind of look like Alex or Geddy. Makes me wonder if there is a Rush fan on the writting staff of MST 3000. +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Michael Kizer -- Computer Sciences Corporation | | Office (email only): 2n18004@ccmail.emis.hac.com | | Home: mkizer@indirect.com <Tucson, Arizona> | | "Plus a change, plus c'est la m me chos." --Rush | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Dec 94 08:13 EST From: Tony Dormio <TDORMIO+aROCKVILLE%Rockville@mcimail.com> Subject: MTV (Music Television? yea right!) NMS'ers, I'ver noticed a lot of subscribers complain about the fact that MTV doesn't give Rush the recognition that they feel Rush deserves. In fact, if you happen to see a Rush video on MTV be sure to run over to the window and have a look outside because I'm sure it'll probably be raining frogs or somthing as equally bizzare. Well, here is an avenue that those of us with fax/modems and fax machines can now express our desires, opinions and complaints to. The MTV main fax telephone #. If enough of us (out of over 3k subscribers I'm sure there is a significant amount of us with access to fax) voice our opinions maybe something good will come out of it and give us one less thing to complain about. The main fax # is: 212 258-8100 " I get so angery when I keep my mouth shut" Tony (man that Grammar issue ran it's course) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 14 Dec 1994 13:38:50 -0600 (CST) From: text string <SMITSM@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu> Subject: Rush gets me an "A" Rush isn't only for listening enjoyment. I used the band for an extra credit project in school. In my Human Resources and Organizational Behavior class, we were told we could pick any song by any group and write a one page paper on it's relatedness to organizational topics discussed in class. It didn't take me long to decide a group and song. It had to be Rush's "The Trees". (We studied Union-Management behavior in class so this song came to mind instantly) I wrote about the conflict management style of the forest, how the dispute was ended. (A lose-lose situation for both sides) We also had to hand in a copy of the lyrics and a tape of the song. I gave my professor (a female) the ESL version including Broon's Bane. This is where it gets cool......she played the song in class today because she liked it so much. (Especially Broon's Bane) She couldn't believe how many topics the song touched on that she taught about during the semester. (Not Neil's intent...I doubt) She then went on to say that everyone else's extra credit was so-so, but mine was superb. (Nothing like putting me (and Rush) in the spotlight) The points I got for it may give me an A for the course. Neil, Alex, and Geddy would be proud. Who knows, maybe I converted a new Rush fan. (A female one at that too) May the female Rush fans flourish and grow! - Steve ******************************************************************************** * "Your brothers.....they echo your words! * How far to the point of no return?" - Kansas 1977 * * *** Always interested in trading Kansas shows *** * Steve Smits Smitsm@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu ******************************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- From: robertsw@agcs.com Subject: fitting cd tracks on a tape Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 13:30:09 -0700 (MST) i have a program i wrote called "knapsack" which solves the classic computer science problem of filling a knapsack as full as possible without overfilling it. of course, this problem has applications in the area of placing as many tracks from a cd as possible onto a tape without "overfilling" it. i can send the source to whoever requests it of me, or i can provide a uuencoded executable to those folks who are fortunate enough to be running Linux on their Intel boxes. :-) my email address is robertsw@agcs.com ... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 12:59:33 -0800 From: nmorin@weber.ucsd.edu (Norman Morin) Subject: Re: Neil's Drumming >>5) Every once in awhile, I hear people refer to his hand-over hand cross >>stick method in some fill or something. Could somebody please direct me >>to a particular section of a song, or a video, or something?? I'd like >>to see/hear what they're talking about. > >This is called a "double-hand crossover". It's been around forever, but >I've only seen Neil, Max Weinberg, and Louis Bellson play it. The best >place to see Neil play it is on the ASOH video during his solo. It's a >single-stroke roll played with both hands crossing over each other. It's >a bitch, believe me! In the ASOH video, the camera will show him playing >it from the top, so you get a nice view. It's impossible to miss. Watch >how fast his hands are moving. It's sick. You can also notice it in >recordings -- it has a subtle, yet disctinctive shuffling sound to it. Like >a "shuck-SHUCK, shuck-SHUCK" shuffling rhythm to it. His drum teacher >told him it was one of the two hardest things he'll ever learn. Seems he's >done well! What is the other "hardest thing he'll ever learn"? --Norm -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ Norman J. Morin ^ ^ Department of Economics ^ ^ University of California, San Diego ^ ^ nmorin@weber.ucsd.edu ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thur, 15 Dec 1994 2:59:13 +0100 From: peterl@informator.se Subject: Answer to Marcin Dobrucki's "HEAVY 100" Hi, A quick answer (facts, not fiction) to some of Marcin Dobrucki's "HEAVY 100" questions in TNMS #1037: The following "compilation" albums has been released in Canada, USA and parts of Europe: * Archives Repacking of albums, RUSH, Fly By Night and Caress of Steel. (The album 2112 is NOT (!) included in this edition) Released in: Canada, Anthem ANR-3-1013, Apr 1978 Canada, Anthem ANR-3-1013, Oct 1978 (Re-release) USA, Mercury SRM-3-9300, Oct 1978 UK, Mercury 6641 779, Oct 1978 * Rush Through Time - Picture Disk Compilation album with songs from Fly By Night, Caress Of Steel, 2112 and A Farewell to Kings. Released in: Canada, Anthem ANRP-1-1017, 1978 Holland, Mercury 9130 001, 1978 USA, Mercury 9130 001, 1978 * Rush Through Time - LP Compilation album with songs from Fly By Night, Caress Of Steel, 2112 and A Farewell to Kings - same as Picture Disk. Released in: Germany, Mercury 6337 171, May 1981 Holland, Mercury 6337 171, May 1981 * Chronicles Compilation album with songs from albums Rush to Presto. Released: World-wide on September 4, 1990 * "Archives" and "Rush Through Time" was available as special imports in Finland, Sweden and Norway (and a few other countries in Europe) for a very limited time. * Other compilation albums like Anyhology (Mercury, Venezuela) may be available - but these are very "local"). * Prime Mover, which is from the album Hold Your Fire (1987), was available as a 12" single (45 rpm) in UK for a very limited time, with a very special "holographic cover". * This is a short list of studio albums oficially released by PolyGram (Mercury/Vertigo) and WEA (Altantic): - Rush Aug 1974 - Fly By Night Feb 1975 - Caress Of Steel Sep 1975 - 2112 Jun 1976 - All The World's A Stage Nov 1976 - A Farewell To Kings Sep 1977 - Archives Apr 1978 - Hemispheres Oct 1978 - Permanent Waves Jan 1980 - Moving Pictures Feb 1981 - Exit...Stage Left Oct 1981 - Signals Mercury Sep 1982 - Grace Under Pressure Apr 1984 - Hold Your Fire Oct 1987 - A Show Of Hands Jan 1989 - Presto Nov 1989 - Chronicles Sep 1990 - Roll The Bones Aug 1991 - Counterparts Nov 1993 "Rush-The Unofficial Discography" covers these things and many more. Also, a quick answer to Frank H Knippenberg's question about Rush books: I think you'll enjoy "Rush-Success Under Pressure" by Steve Gett. It was published by Cherry Lane Books, USA, 1984 ISBN: 0-89524-230-3 Regards Peter Lutteman (PeterL@Informator.SE) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 18:05:24 -0800 (PST) From: Kevin Field <jedi@u.washington.edu> Subject: Rush in a Marching Band... I'm a member of the University of Washington marching band. In honor of next year's 20th anniversary of Rush (20 years with Peart), I was hoping to do a Rush halftime show. It would end up somewhere between 7-9 minutes long. Anyway, I'm looking for suggestions by Rush fans as to what songs they'd put in a Rush "medley." Keep in mind that I can't use musical licks that are too difficult; playing, say, the intro to Spirit of Radio note-for-note in tempo might be a _little_ tricky. SO, what do you think would sound good? It needs to be familiar to people, not too complicated, and preferably important in Rush's history. So far, I've had a few ideas: Tom Sawyer, Temples..., Limelight, part of Spirit of Radio, Time Stand Still, and others. Oh yeah -- they don't have to be complete songs, of course -- maybe the keyboard solo from Subdivisions, the chorus of Animate, you get the picture. I'm not sure this will all come to pass, but the better the music, the more likely we'll do it. Let me know what you think! Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 21:17:36 -0300 From: megoldb1@students.wisc.edu (Michael Goldberg) Subject: Dewey Defeats Truman! As if it wasn't obvious already.... I don't know if anyone mentioned this already or whatever, but after hearing everyone say "You can see the headline in the program from this tour and that tour blah blah blah....", it occurred to me that maybe you could see it in the little picture of PW in "Chronicles". So I looked it up, and what do you know? It was there "Dewey Defeats Truman," in "Chronicles" for all to see for the longest time. I'd also like to say thank you to David Lenahan! Finally someone was competent enough to properly explain the essence of RUSh, poetry, RUSh's poetry, in an obvious yet intellectual manner that even the most ignorant of dolts can comprehend: >From: "David Lenahan" <DLENAHAN@STUDENT.Princeton.EDU> >Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 21:05:02 EDT >Subject: Random Postings from a Random Mind > >My own personal opinion: >Lyrics (especially in the hands of a master lyricist like Neil) are >not so much prose as poetry, therefore grammatical exactness doesn't >really matter as much as meter, rhyme scheme, etc. I'd rather have >10 split infinitives and 20 dangling modifiers than have Neil try to >rhyme "Key" with "I". Remember- Rush is poetry set to music. Besides, who wants to read about grammatical errors when the readers of NMS have to decipher posts with multitudinous spelling and grammatical errors made by contributors of these "profound" statements? If you can't do it right, then show me the law that says Neil has to. It's a free country, He isn't in school, He's not being graded...if He wants to tamper with the English language, are YOU going to stop Him? That'll be 50 bucks thank you... Michael "Pogo" Goldberg "And damn it all, I was trying SO hard to avoid that topic....." -Bill, I'm on a roll.... ************************************************************* ** This post brought to you by the letter "G"..... ** ** ** ** "There's no "I" in TEAM!" -pretty much everyone who ** ** has lost something at one point in their life. ** ** ** ** "SO WHO'S AFRAID OF A LITTLE ABSTRACTION?" ** ** (from RTB --lyrics: Neil Peart...of course!) ** ************************************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 14 Dec 94 22:20:49 EST From: "Michael A. Horwitz" <74434.2241@compuserve.com> Subject: CD Review DISC of the MONTH Hi all, This is my first post, but I have been lurking about for a couple of months reading. The latest edition of CD Review just came out and has Burning for Buddy as its Jazz Disc of the Month. This is what they had to say: "Big band music is a wonderful vehicle for a drummer. It's the only other style of music I could ever imagine myself being satisfied by." That's Neal[sic] Peart, drummer with the rock band Rush, talking about 'Burning for Buddy', the first in a three-volume series Peart has produced to pay tribute to the music of Buddy Rich. "In Rush, we arrange our things quite tightly, but within that, each of us interprets freely as we wish," Peart says. "And that, too, is what big band music is all about - having a structured format within which to be free. so I've had it in mind for a long time that if there were any other style of music that I'd like to explore, the big band style would be it." The underlying concept was to do a series of recording sessions placing a variety of guest drummers with the Buddy Rich band. Seventeen of them appear on this first CD. In addition to Peart(who boots the band through a John LaBarbera arrangement of "Cotton Tail"), Billy Cobham, Steve Weckl, Steve Ferrone, Kenny Aronoff, Ed Shaughnessy, Marvin Smith, Joe Morello, and a host of others join the band, while Max Roach does two tracks solo. This first volume is a high-pressure set."I wanted a dynamic, fanfare opening," Peart says, "supplying rock and funk points of access for the modern listener. I believe they'll enjoy it and will respond to the quality and exuberance. The second volume will be more of a true swing set and the third one will have several epic pieces on it, including one set to Buddy's own drum track. But this one is the introduction-for 1994 listeners. On that basis, 'Burning for Buddy' should be a great success. Each track is a grabber, punchy, and fiery. Except for Roach's "The Drum Also Waltzes" tracks, don't expect to find any subtlety here. Many of the drummers, steeped in rock and pop practice, overload the back beat and whack their instruments with a deadly contemporary thump. And now for the big question. Should you buy this tribute or head for the Buddy Rich bin for the real thing? In terms of sound and selection, Peart believes that the discs he has produced will provide a better first taste of big band music for today's listeners. "It's a great anthology," he says. "This is the perfect introduction-for 1994. Unfortunately, I have not bought a scanner yet, and cannot include the picture of Neil playing while wearing a Beavis and Butthead t-shirt. By the way, for my $0.02, Moving Pictures is the best album, PeW was my first, and 2112 is the best song. Mike Horwitz Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 21:27:28 -0300 From: megoldb1@students.wisc.edu (Michael Goldberg) Subject: VOICES THAT WHISPER.... If you listen VERY closely to "The Camera Eye" on "Moving Pictures," you will notice a voice saying something from approximately 8 minutes and 54 seconds to about 8 minutes and 56 seconds or so. It is said before Geddy sings "Pavements may teem with intense energy...." WHAT THE HELL IS BEING SAID? Is this just another one of those voices where you aren't supposed to be able to understand what is being said (Example: the intro to Witch Hunt)? *NOTE*--I AM NOT REFERRING TO GEDDY'S VOICE!!! This is something totally different that can be heard through both speakers. I heard it on the CD, but it is most likely on EVERY version. Has this been mentioned before? What's it all about? Michael "Pogo" Goldberg megoldb1@students.wisc.edu Billy---Three for Three.... "We are young...." -Neil Peart ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 22:53:19 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin K Lisowe <rushland@csd.uwm.edu> Subject: you don't know me Hey my friend how the heck are you? Allow me to introduce myself. I am Kevin Lisowe co-owner of Rushland. My esteemed counterpart is David Bailey who also enjoys the relaxing sounds of a good ol' fashion Rush song. Rushland is a place we developed as a haven to study the works of Neil Peart and the rest of the band. Seeing as how we are both drummers Neil has become the point of greatest interest. Anyway I was just checking if this address is still in effect. I don't know what's up with my address but give it a shot. I'll write soon if you are unable to get through. By the way we are located at the University of Wisconsin in Milwaukee. You know, just in case you were curious. Merry Peartmas, Kevin Lisowe ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Pat Rice <price@wri.com> Subject: Re: Neil a LIbertarian Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 22:57:21 -0600 (CST) > Neil's songs, most notably _Anthem_, do seem to espouse Libertarian > principles. But, I wonder, if Neil truly is a Libertarian, why > does he choose to live in Canada, which is arguably *much* less > Libertarian than the United States? Because he's a Canadian? It might be helpful to recall that _Anthem_ was written twenty years ago. It probably isn't a reliable guide to Neil's politics today. (I find myself wondering what percentage of the NMS readership hadn't been born yet when FBN was released.) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 10:12:51 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Eli Swofford <jes3@engr.engr.uark.edu> Subject: Rush. What they can mean to some people. HEY! take up less space griping about what people post about. Griping about what people post about is completely and utterly !!!!!!!un-Rush related!!!!!!!!. For every type of post there is, someone gripes about it. Now I'm griping about the griping 'posters'. I'm sure that someone will gripe at me for griping (contributing to what I am against) or using the word gripe too damn much or saying the word damn. Let's talk about Rush-related topics and not each other and our pet peeves about posters. If someone says something you don't like take it to 'personal e-mail'. Some people really get-off on trashing a person personally in front of God and country (the NMS). I say, Keep on posting about, who you want at your dinner parties, in the your favorite polka, hard-rock, progressive, alternative, DDDDDDD funk, and new age bands, but try to compare this to Rush in some manner to be consistent with the topic of the NMS. If you like talking about the members political and religious views that is fine also. This newsletter is about Rush, all facets of Rush. It is rare that so many people can come together from all different backgrounds and discuss one thing that they have in common, the love for Rush's music. Ex. I found out that there is someone out there that came to like Rush in the same manner I did. Marathon, ASOH. Thats all it took to get me hooked. Since then, however and more importantly, I've been able to expand my musical taste into many different types of music. Rush 'opened my ears' I guess one could say. Personally, I don't care what each members world view is, I don't care about how a riff or drum fill is played, I don't care what someone thinks a song means, I don's care if Neil was on the Comedy Channel, but there are people who subscribe to this newsletter that do care about these things. I won't cut them down for their personal tastes. I personally like to hear what songs got people hooked on Rush and why. And what albums people like and why. I also like to hear when the band is coming out with new albums. I really enjoy reading the interviews that are printed periodically. So, if I griped about everything I didn't like to read I would be griping all of the time. Thank you for reading me out. Rush-mgr, Keep up the great work. Don't give in and shorten the newsletter. If I had to pay for this, I would, gladly. I really appreciate the work you put into the newsletter to keep people informed on Rush. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 11:13:02 -0500 (EST) From: Michael L Sensor <sensor@codger.physics.duq.edu> Subject: Lyrics to Didacts & Narpets/ATWAS double record set Two followups: > From: ahern@sphere.llnl.gov (Sean Ahern) > Subject: Re: Didacts & Narpets/"Addicts" & Parents > Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 16:15:03 -0800 (PST) > Question: where did you get the "Live! Learn! Give! Earn!" lyrics from? I > have been trying to figure out what is said besides "Listen!". I can't > find the other words on at syrinx. Anyone want to enlighten me? (Or is > truth a moving picture that's poorly lit?) > > [ Try checking the FAQ, I think they're in there. : rush-mgr ] rush-mgr is right. They're in the FAQ, or at least the FAQ I read when I first got into the NMS about 4 years ago. :-) > Date: Fri, 09 Dec 1994 19:21:44 -0500 (EST) > From: CSTANLEY@butler.edu > Subject: ATWAS LP Question > I recently found a copy of the ATWAS double-record set at a local > half-price book store. It is in excellent condition, but the arrangement > of the records is unusual. When I flip side "A" over, side "D" is on the > back. Likewise, side "C" is the flip side of "B". If I'm not mistaken, > shouldn't the first record contain sides "A" and "B" and the second sides > "C" and "D". If anyone else has ATWAS on LP, I would like to know if you= rs > is the same way, or if this is some screw-up by the record company > (Mercury Records). How soon the golden days of vinyl are forgotten! Double record sets were pressed this way so you could stack sides A/B and C/D on your changer together. That way you wouldn't have to get up (off the couch, out of bed, etc. :-) to flip A to B and C to D when the side was over. All you'd have to do is flip the records over when B finished playing. > Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 16:41:22 -0800 (PST) > From: Blaine Browning <blaine@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu> > Subject: Re: BORING! > =09Come on. I DON'T want to hear it was your first time > posting...who gives a shit! This kind of thing can be easily edited, or > monitored. Perhaps a guidline sheet to first time posters, or send out > a rule sheet for when they post...and tell them NOT to say, "uhhh, yeah, > this is like... my first time posting...umm...huhuh,yeah cool" > =09If not then, you're right this mailing is not for me. But I'm very > interested to see How many other people feel the same way as I do. Such an eloquent philippic. Get a life, Blaine. If you don't like TNMS, unsubscribe. That's the wonder of the Net; it's a completely free market. If you want to have discussion about things you deem non-trivial, why not start your own discussion instead of whining about how you don't like other peoples' discussions? Sheesh. L8R, all. Michael -- Michael Sensor - KD3LR - Duquesne University Communications Research - PGH PA ---- "The Castle of Fu Manchu" will be back right after this. ---- Oh yeah, I'm a law student here too. MiSTie # 39863 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: SCHMIDW@WPGATE1.WPAFB.AF.MIL (William J. Schmidlapp) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 09:18 EST Subject: FIRST POSTING THERE AR E A FEW THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD. FIRST I HAVE PURCHASED THE "RUN FROM THE FANS" 92 LIVE "IMPORT" CD. I HAVE HEARD OF THE "RUSH 'N' ROULETTE 92 & 94" CDS. IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT CAN GIVE ME ANY SPECIFICS ON HOW THESE CAN BE ACQUIRED. I LIKE THE RFTF CD BUT IT IS MISSING SOME OF THE SONGS I WAS LOOKING FOR LIKE, ANALOG KID, BRAVADO, SHOW DON'T TELL, THE ENCORE, AND LETS NOT FORGET THAT AWESOME DRUM SOLO BY THE MASTER. I AM ALSO LOOKING FOR SOME GOOD VIDEOS OF THE GROUP. I HAVE HEARD AROUND THE GRAPE VINE THERE ARE SOME GREAT VIDEOS OF THE RTB TOUR AND CP. PLEASE REPLY TO SCHMIDW@WPGATE1.WPAFB.AF.MIL. I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE MAIL FOR AWHILE AND YOU GUYS/GALS HAVE BEEN POSTING YOUR FAVORITE LINE UPS FOR A GROUP. WHAT ABOUT THE BOYS? I THINK THEY ARE THE BEST. SURE THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE EXCELLENT MUSICIANS, BUT LETS FACE IT ON MUSICIANSHIP ALONE YOU CAN'T SURVIVE. IT'S THE FEEL AND THE CHEMISTRY. I HAVE FOLLOWED MANY DIFFERENT BANDS BESIDES RUSH AND I STILL HAVEN'T FOUND ANY GROUPS THAT HAVE AND GEL AS GOOD AS RUSH. THE BOYS GIVE THE FEELING THAT THEY ARE AN EXTENSION OF EACH OTHER. THINK ABOUT IT, SUPERGROUPS ARE JUST BLOWN OUT EGOS THAT CAN'T GET ALONG WITH ONE ANOTHER. MY FAVORITE LINE UP "HANDS DOWN" IS GEDDY, ALEX, AND NEIL. I HAVE TALKED TO ATLANTIC RECORDS AND THEY TOLD ME THAT AN ALBUM WAS IN THE WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPECIFICS ON IT COULD NOT BE GIVEN AT THIS TIME BUT THERE IS A ALBUM COMING OUT. REPEAT THERE IS A ALBUM COMING OUT. BONEMAN. "TRIED TO HOLD SOME FAITH IN THE GOODNESS OF HUMANITY" -- MR. PEART. [ You might want to consider typing your posts in mixed case, it makes it *much* easier to read. Not to mention you won't look like you're shouting... :-) : rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 9:30:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Hanson Tam, TELECON, 431-3230, C-wing" <HANSONT@ola.bc.ca> Subject: RE: 12/15/94 - The National Midnight Star #1039 I would like to commend TonyW for his pragmatic argument re: cars/ environment. thx. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 12:41:46 -0500 From: RAKDAK@aol.com Subject: NEW ALBUM That's it!!! I knew they met over dinner, but now that I know the location it's crystal clear what the next album is going to be. There's no doubt it will be called "Alex's Restaraunt" and there will be a guest appearance on banjo or ukelele by the great Arlo Guthrie himself!! For those of you craving another side long epic, just wait until you hear Neil bemoan the fact that he was caught stealing a box of Tylenol from the St. Catherines Drug Store when he was a mere "Port Boy" because he couldn't afford to buy pain killers to help him deal with his first bout with cancer. Then you get to hear how this kept him out of the Vietnam drum corp!!! Anything you want indeed-RAK ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 13:59:52 -0500 From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu> Subject: Innovation Rush tribute bands and musicians who try to clone Rush amuse me. I'm in a band and our biggest influence is Rush. You can hear a little Rush influence in our actual sound but Rush impacts us at a different level. Rush = noble standards and high values. Rush has influenced us to be ourselves. We used to play Tom S., The Pass, Overture, New World Man, and Limelight. We were just getting started and needed to fill the void in our original set. As we got better and started writing more of our own songs, we dropped the Rush covers. Rush has influenced us to be innovative and individual. Musicians and bands who try to pose as Rush missed the boat if you ask me. Maybe they are the gangsters of boats :) Anyway, if you are interested in an original band that is influenced by the standards and values of Rush, please email me and I'll add you to our group mailing list. Thanks for listening... Jay Peele (INFERNO) jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 12:12:01 +0800 From: cwalker@orion.csci.csusb.edu (Chris Walker) Hello all you happee people... I'm siitin' here at work thinking about everyone's favorite band, and I was hit with an incredible idea...What if Rush did a huge blow-out tour with orchestral accompaniment? Imagine listening to "Lock and Key" or "Manhattan Project" with a live orchetra (no percussion of course, so Neil can do his thing!). Alex and Geddy could take their usual places on stage, and then in back of them there would be an orchestra split into 2 halves and Neil in the middle of them. They would tear it up on stuff like Xanadu or even theTrees. That would help Geddy stay more with the bass, and the vopcals and not have to devote so much to keyboards... --Counterpart "Struck between the eyes by the big time world/Walking uneasy streets"-Neil ---------------------------------------------------------- From: grogic@whro-pbs.org (George Rogic) Subject: Happy Holidays You Hosers Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 16:21:42 -0500 (EST) Just a Holiday Greeting from me to all of the NMSers and subscribers. Is that grammatically correct? I don't know, ask Neil... ;^) "On the first day of Christmas my true love gave to me... A beer..." -- This is a test... Had this been an actual sig. This space would be occupied by something clever... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Dec 94 15:51:15 CST From: lowe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Greg Lowe) Subject: $0.02 + tax Hey NMSers..let me reach into my pocket for some change...ah, 2 cents! To Kara: You are a true Rushie and I always enjoys your posts! To Blaine Browning: You want to know who gives a "Sh*t" about some of these crazy posts on the NMS...I DO!! Yes, I want to hear how someone's relationship was "saved" by Ghost of a Chance, YES, I want to read someone's "This is my first post" post, YES, I want to read why Rush fans like this album but don't like the other album (even though I get bothered when they say "This album is bad" instead of "I don't like this album because.."--note the difference?). So, Blaine, if you want censorship, get into a time machine and go to Soviet Russia or hop into the Gay Deceiver (anyone read Heinlein's _The Number of the Beast_?) and set your controls for the mythical (thank God!) land of 2112. Censorship "ain't" gonna happen here :) !! Craig: The reason double albums have side 1 & 4 on one album and 2 & 3 on the other is so that you can play them back-to-back. Does anyone remember the old days when you could "stack" albums on that "thing," and once one album was done, the next "stacked" album would fall onto the just-played album ("ouch!") and you would get continuous play. So, when you bought a double album, the sides were sometimes aligned so that you could play 1 & 2 without batting a wink. You would then flip 'em both over and you get 3 & 4. We have come a long way...thank you capitalism!! Gabriel: Your racist remark really bothers me!!! I was very surprised to see a comment like that on the NMS. There is no such thing as "black slang" in society. There is a style of language that comes from poor parts of cities that happen to have more blacks than whites. But what is black, anyway? To quote a certain someone: "Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand" (Neil Peart, 1981) I have never met a *black* person! In fact, in the summer time, I am darker than some of my friends who just happen to have ancestors from Africa.... and to answer your question: Favorite Album: Power Windows. Every song on here moves me. Awesome stuff. Why? I feel that on this album more than any other Rush has matched the "feel" of the music with the lyrical content. The themes are very emotional and the music just fits! Side 2 rules. I don't think I have ever heard 3 songs in a row better than Middletown Dreams, Emotion Detector, and Mystic Rhythms (although side 2 of Moving Pictures is damn close!) Favorite Song: Middletown Dreams & Ghost of a Chance: We make our destiny and carve our way through life. Some people are happy living in "Middletown," thinking that life is a river and it just takes you along. I say get out of the river, start throwing rocks into the river, and change the river's course!! It takes time and effort, but it is well worth it. Middletown dreams has motivated me away from "Middletown" and towards my current "life path." As for GoaC, we never know when we will meet that certain someone. She/he may have grown up in your own backyard, but "chance" never offered the formal introduction. This is a very bold song. Right to the heart of the matter! 2nd: Bravado, Emotion Detector, Vital Signs, Witch Hunt. Band Member: Neil. Why? This would require a book-like response and I still have 2 more finals!! I think most of you know why. If I ever meet him, I just want to tell him one thing: THANKS! >From a previous NMS: Best Period: Fly by Night to Counterparts (sorry!) Do Svadania! Vi gavoritye pa-roosky? Greg [lowe@astro.utexas.edu] "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 15:17:46 -0700 (PDT) From: FRANSRB@PLU.edu Subject: Re: Neil's Grammer Hi Rush fans, I feel like I'm beating a dead dog, but here I go anyway. I'm a song writer, I'll never be famous, or ever hope to be, but as important as grammer is to the English language sometimes the song just doesn't sound right with good grammer. HYF is a decent album, Lock and Key is a great song, but I think some of you guys are missing the point. Poor grammer does not take away from the song, unless is sounds like country music,( but that's another story). Songs are more or less poetry and if I remember correctly from all my schooling years. 75% of all poetry uses bad grammer. Look at e.e cummings. His grammer is horrible does that mean he's a bad poet, of course not. If you examine every musical artist they have used bad grammer at least once just look at Plant, Amose, Hammer, Ice tea, Mike D, MCA...etc I could go on all day. Enough said. Comments are always welcome FRANSRB@PLU.EDU Ben Cause now this is Shangrila, and you have gatherd of the feast. Andrew Wood may he rest in peace. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 20:34:57 -0500 (EST) From: Jason Soroko <jsoroko@inasec.ca> Subject: Re: Neil a Libertarian On Wed. 7 Dec, 1994 Amy Moseley Rupp wrote: Neil's songs, most notably _Anthem_, do seem to espouse Libertarian Principles. But, I wonder, if Neil truly is a Libertarian, why does he choose to live in Canada, which is arguably *much* less Libertarian than the United States? ****************************************** To answer a part of that, Neil is not a Libertarian, he is better described as an Objectivist. An Objectivist is any follower of the philosophy of Ayn Rand, "Objectivism". If you are a Rush fan it may be of great interest for you to actually read _Anthem_, _The Fountainhead_ and _Atlas Shrugged_, (preferably in that order) to begin to understand Ayn Rand and a LOT of the songs Neil writes, not just _Anthem_. Note Neil dedicated (forgive me if I'm wrong) the album 2112 to the 'genius' of Ayn Rand. If you would like to cut to the chase and find out what Objectivism is all about technically, read Leonard Peikoff's book: _Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand_. You won't regret reading the other books I mentioned before. Good luck! Jason Soroko jsoroko@inasec.ca Ottawa Ontario. Catch the Spirit. Catch the Spit. (Who is John Galt anyway?) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: smerak@cgart.Trenton.EDU Date: 15 Dec 1994 22:32:54 EST Subject: emissions, heroes & drugs 1) Emissions, liberals, alloys, pollution...what the f*@k, am I still subscribed to NMS? To reinterate what others have said before--please send splinter discussions to personal e-mail addresses. I don't give two shits about i.c. engines efficiency rates! Thanks. 2) To answer a question on Nobody's Hero--I believe it's about the REAL heroes that go unnoticed/unrewarded in today's society. Like the song suggests-not the model, or actor- who people worship for whatever reason, but the real heroes- the pilot that "lands the crippled plane" or the family of the young lady which struggles to keep their sanity after losing her. 3) Drugs, Rush? My only correlation is Passage to Bangkok. This song is great, and what do you know?!...it's about pot! - "the natives smile and pass along a sample of their yield." - the chorus "...we only stop for the best!" (they shop around!) - right before the guitar solo, you can hear this wooshing sound- someone taking a hit off a bong, no doubt. This, of course, doesn't mean that Rush does or ever has endorsed marijuana, they just happened to write a clever song about it. 4) How does one get a NMS t-shirt? Have a great holiday everyone! -keith ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Babbling.... Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 01:55:36 EST From: "James H. Falkner" <jhf@cis.ufl.edu> 1)Still haven't purchased COS on CD yet... But Christmas is just around the corner! 2)How do I go about getting one of those personalized license plates? (i.e. 2112, BY-TOR, etc...) 3)Is Losing It about the feeling that you're not good enough anymore? (i.e. you've 'lost it' (30 years ago how the words would flow/With Passion and precision/But now his mind is dark and dulled/By Sickness and indecision) 4)(I know this question has prolly been answered before) Do any of The Boys(tm) smoke? 5)Hi to everyone on #p/g! (except rrang :D) --jhf-- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 14:40 GMT From: bsimpson@cix.compulink.co.uk (Barry Simpson) Subject: The Spirit of Rush For those of you who know not who or what TSOR is then read on: The Spirit of Rush is a Fanzine that was set up after Hold Your Fire came out in 1987. It was setup by Mick Burnett, a long time Rush fanatic in London. Mick and a few of his friends were pissed off because the guys didn't tour the UK as much as they used, also by the records company lack of promotion of the band. It was being published quarterly, until the start of this year when it was decided that we would publish it every 2 months. In the mag there are various sections, eg: SIGNALS - Letters page. PERMANENT TRADES - Trading and auction section. etc.. The reason we pride ourselves on our longevity is because we get certain info from SRO/Anthem, Atlantic etc. that not many others get. We get promo stuff direct from them, we get interviews easily, In fact sometimes we even get letters from the guys. We also know that the guys read it when they get their copies and not just through them to the side. To quote Geddy "To all the readers of Spirit, we're glad your there" If you would like more info on TSOR then write to Mick at the following address. The Spirit of Rush, 23 Garden Close, Chinbrook Road, Grove Park, London. SE12 9TG. England. Thats about it, so if you want more info you know where I am. Bye!! Stewart ----------------------------------------------------------
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