The National Midnight Star #997

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Rush on the radio ROIO's/B**Tlegs.....concert recordings...etc Jeff's EMAIL address/mad machinery Re: 07/17/94 - The National Midnight Star #996 Concert memories Rush on new season of MST3K (Forwarded) Rush+ (Forwarded) Exit Stage Left+ Inspired by Rush Season premiere of MST3K w/ Geddy Shirt Offer!! first post Verbal acrobatics cover band/interesting thought Rush concerts Rush in Studio & Boot II Neil's book ?? Re: Rush albums road trip Re: #1(2) 07/14/94 - The Nati... Mr Big playing Rush Happy Mirror Rush's Recording Deal School Days/Rush on Radio-Lots/Questions/Mr Big Jamie????? Re: Caress of Steel tape Merely Players GEDLES ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu Date: Thu Jul 21 13:56:34 EDT 1994 Subject: Administrivia There was no digest for Mon or Tues, and this is the digest for Wed (even though it's going out on Thursday..) Sorry about that, but thankfully there hasn't been much traffic. One annoucement I've been meaning to make... I've been sent an interview done with Camille Paglia in Wired magazine, 1993. I didn't want to send it out in a digest since it's not very Rush-related, and Rush never is mentioned in the interview in any way, but if you are interested in receiving this interview, send me email and I'll send you a copy. I'm a little behind on admin mail, I'll take care of that later tonight/tomorrow before the next digest. - rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 17 Jul 94 18:44:38 EDT From: Neal.I.Mitchell@Dartmouth.EDU (Neal I. Mitchell) Subject: NMS #996, Peart's lyrics You will have to forgive me but as I've been away and not having fully read the thread concerning the "educational" aspects of Peart's lyrics I of course have something to add. In college I was exposed to a series of classes called "Intellectual History". Despite the dry-sounding nature of the title these classes were terrific! They not only gave a name and a date to many of the thoughts and ideas that we all share in our everyday lives but I was amazed to find (this is where RUSH comes in) that a great many of Peart's lyrics seemed to come from the ideas of these past masters in thought. As each historical sampling was presented in the course of the class another series of Peart's lyrics would click into place. Now, I know little of the past lives of our excellent three but N. Peart must have done and continue to do some serious philosophical and historical reading. In this I find the real core of my appreciation for RUSH. I like the music with a passion, but Peart is doing some thinking. Neal I. Mitchell "The point of the journey is not to arrive; the point of departure is not to return." RUSH, Neil Peart & Robert Louis Stevenson ---------------------------------------------------------- From: gwebster@sirius.uvic.ca (Snow Dog) Subject: Re: 07/17/94 - The National Midnight Star #996 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 16:31:11 -0700 (PDT) In the last episode, rush@syrinx.umd.edu shrieked: > Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 11:24:19 -0400 (EDT) > From: Douglas G Schwabe <dgsst4+@pitt.edu> > Subject: Alex on Lost Brotherhood CD > > I agree w/the poster who enjoyed "Call it a Mission". In a way it has > that SuperConductor feel to it (listen to both songs and you'll know what > I mean). It's a great album overall and I recommend it highly. Does anybody > know if Lexert played on Gowan's latest album? Nope. I checked, and according to the liner notes, Alex does not play on any of the tracks this time around. No wonder I don't like "...but you can call me Larry" as much as "Lost Borhterhood" ;-) -- Gord Webster ] - For the Smiley Impaired, please insert ;-) ;-) ;-) gwebster@sirius.UVic.ca } - No. Why, have YOU ever snorted Laser toner?? University of Victoria ) - STACK OVERFLOW - Brain Halted. Victoria, B.C. Canada > - Disciples of the Snow Dog sound the knell - Rush ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 20:14:31 EDT From: AGNU74A@prodigy.com (MR JORDAN A GOLDMAN) Subject: Misc. debris.. Howdy all... Will, here are the bass- notes for the part you're talking aboot.. They battled through the ages, but still nether force would yield.. c# d a c# b c# d a c# b g# e Hope you can figger out the rhythyms...they are mystic. Hey, I'll be in Quebec City from Sat. the 23rd to Wed. the 27th; does anyone know what kind of bands will be around in the clubs and bars that week.Also, where can I go to hear some Rush (or even some Max Webster)? I was at The Wiz today with my good buddy Dirk (yo) and on the rack with the unathorized bios of Metallica, Nirvana , and Pearl Jam, was our favorite book , Visions. I guess that means it's not out of print, so someone knows they can make some money offa Rush. Sorry for the long post.. Jordan agnu74@prodigy.com You're too young and I'm too well hung....Spinal Tap Tap Tap ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 20:55:05 -0500 (CDT) From: HUMPHREYS%SHIRE@uthscsa.edu Subject: Rush on the radio Howdy, all! While I thought that the whole Rush on the radio thread is a little boring, it is the off-season, so to speak and so I decided to send in my 2 cents. In San Antonio the only decent radio station is KISS 99.5 (and even then several of the DJs leave much to be desired). One thing the station is very good about is playing plenty of Rush. I listened to the radio most of the day yesterday and heard Lakeside Park, Time stand still, 2112 overture/temples, double agent, Working man, and the Trees. They play a great variety of Rush and put in a song from the bouys at least one time every two hours. No wonder Neil Peart said in his journal that San Antonio was one of his favorite cities to play in the south! P.S.: the correct spelling is carpal tunnel syndrome, fyi James Humphreys Humphreysj@delphi.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 23:15:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Cloninger <ancl@freenet.scri.fsu.edu> Subject: ROIO's/B**Tlegs.....concert recordings...etc Hello folks! It seems that recently ive been endowed with more than a few of these wonderous alternatives to the all-too-few commercial recordings. Ive been lucky enough to experince the generosity of a number of individuals that have sent me some real GEMS!!!...BUT...its not enough!! SOO, i put it to you....humble readers of TNMS....Anyone out there have audio/video up for trade? Drop me a line...im ALWAYS open!!! Andrew (who spends far too much time in the pursuit of this kinda thing) =Rimmer:======================================================================= There are so many things that WE don't have an explaination for...the pyramids: how did they move such massive pieces of stone without ...modern techonology? =Lister: They had massive WHIPS, Rimmer,....massive, massive whips. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 00:06:14 -0400 From: "Gordon Barentsen" <yku02309@CAWC.YorkU.CA> Subject: Jeff's EMAIL address/mad machinery Hey RUSHians... A quick note to Jeff: I tried - God knows I tried - but your email address (ELBEL@QUASAR.dnet.hac.com) is unknown to my computer. Maybe I missed something in entering it, but if you can email me I'll give you my pronunciation schtick on the "Mysterium Tremendum" thing. We've got nothing to fear - but fear itself? Not pain or failure, not fatal tragedy? Not the faulty units in this mad machinery? I.e. this Internet-thang which has got the best of ME... - NEIL PEART/FUSTRATED SCREEN-JOCKEY (the Internet. Be afraid. Be VERY afraid.) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 08:47:28 BST From: J.Screaton@sheffield.ac.uk (James Screaton) Subject: Re: 07/17/94 - The National Midnight Star #996 Hi All Cliff Lovelock talked about Lambeth having no mountains, and of course that is correct. But correct me if I'm wrong ( and thousands will no doubt), isn't there a Lambeth Bridge? as in "No one at the Bridge". :)) The mystery thickens!! James ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 00:50:55 HST From: puanani@wana.pbrc.Hawaii.Edu (Puanani Akaka) Subject: Concert memories Concert memories, eh? One of the most intense memories I have is when I saw them for the first time ever. November 1984. 11 months before, I'd rediscovered them after a long hiatus. Then a new album came out. I spent the whole summer in utter ecstacy. I had past Cloud Nine -- I was now in the Virgo Cluster. Now, they were here. Hawaii. My home town. I had also discovered Neil, and being a drummer, also, was blown away. Now, a half hour before THEY would appear in the spotlight, I spotted a figure by the stage. I peered at him. A figure in an ash-colored muscle-T, beige shorts and a pony-tail down the length of his back. I knew somehow, it wasn't one of the crew... Then, it dawned on me, and I couldn't help but stare -- Neil Peart. After months of staring at pictures, he was *here*, standing in the flesh. He was waiting for Larry. He had his hands on his hips, staring up at the stage. My god... a smile crept to my lips. Neil. It's Neil! Oh, this is awesome. And it occurred to me that Rush -- RUSH! -- was HERE! We were in the same building at the *same time*! Stupid thought, but I was only 15... These guys, who I admired and respected more than almost anyone in the world were HERE and I was going to *see* them *play*!! I just couldn't believe they were really here. I had never been so blissfully happy in my life. Altho the concert from their point of view was probably one of their worst (!), it will remain for me always as the best concert I have ever seen. And _Grace Under Pressure_ will forever be a favourite of mine. There are so many high points and incredible feelings associated with that album, it's become impossible for me to separate the feelings from the album. There is nothing -- *nothing* -- like seeing your favourite band for the first time in your own home town. Especially when you know they'll never be there again. I can never forget that day. I still get goosebumps thinking about it... puanani ps. Cheryl, I haven't forgotten -- I'll send you the "story" about this. 'Soon as I write it up... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 07:56:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Derek Harter <DHARTER@LANDO.HNS.COM> Subject: Rush on new season of MST3K Hello fellow Rushians, So, who caught the Rush reference on the season 6(?) premiere of Mystery Science 3000 this weekend? Silver: Is Mary Lee there? Crone : No (I didn't quite catch what the old lady said). Crow : Well is Geddy Lee there? Derek dharter@hns.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 09:13 EST From: Apoorva Gandhi <0005623138@mcimail.com> Subject: (Forwarded) Rush+ I pulled this off of the all music forum,. They have lots more for compuserve people to use! Apoorva Mail me for more info! --------------------------------- Forwarded message via: mailbox 1, agandhi on MCI ** Message Received OK Date: Sat Jul 16, 1994 11:30 pm EST Source-Date: 940717040915 From: X.400 Originator EMS: CompuServe / MCI ID: 592-7515 MBX: P=CSMAIL MBX: DDA=ID=72772.3547 TO: * Apoorva Gandhi / MCI ID: 562-3138 Subject: Rush+ Message-Id: 20940717043002/0005927515D03X4 Source-Msg-Id: 940717040816 72772.3547 FHM20-1 ----------------------------- Application message id: 940717040816 72772.3547 FHM20-1 Importance: Normal Grade of Delivery: Normal ----------------------------- (C) 1991-1994 All-Music Guide Artist : Rush Genre : Rock Style : Hard Rock, Art-Rock/Progressive-Rock, Heavy Metal Instr. : Group Rating : importance (2) popularity (1) Chronological Album List |Date| Label | Number |Flags|Rating -------------------------------+----+---------+--------+-----+------ Counterparts |1993| | | R | OK Rush |1991|Reprise |26794 | R | Good Roll the Bones |1991|Atlantic |82293 | R | BestA Chronicles |1991|Mercury |838936 | R T|+BestA Presto |1990|Atlantic |82040 | R | Chronicles |1990|PolyGram |082765 | | Presto |1989|Atlantic |82040 | R T| BestA Off the Record |1989|Westwood | | | Show of Hands, A |1988|Mercury |836346 | R T| Good Big Money |1988|Atlantic |8707172 | T| Off the Record |1987|Westwood | | | Hold Your Fire |1987|Mercury |832464 | RPT| Good Off the Record |1986|Westwood |86 | | Through Camera |1985|RCA/Colum|60466 | | Power Windows |1985|Mercury |826098 | RPT| Good Grace under Pressure |1985|PolyGram |080103 | | Off the Record |1984|Westwood | | | Grace under Pressure |1984|Mercury |818476 | PT| Good Signals |1982|Mercury |810002 | RPT| BestA Off the Record |1982|Westwood | | | Off the Record |1981|Westwood | | | Moving Pictures |1981|Mercury |800048 | RPT|+BestG Exit Stage Left |1981|Mercury |822551 | RPT| BestA Rush/ Fly by Night |1980|Mercury |9111065 | | OK Rush through Time (Comp) |1980|Mercury |6331171 | P | Permanent Waves |1980|Mercury |822548 | RPT| BestA Innerview with Jim Ladd |1980|Inner Vie|18 | | Hemispheres |1978|Mercury |822547 | RPT| Good Closer to the Heart (12 Inch) |1978|Mercury |12 | P | Archives |1978|Mercury |22553 | R | Good Farewell to Kings, A |1977|Mercury |822546 | RPT| Good All the World's a Stage |1976|Mercury |822552 | PT| Good 2112 |1976|Mercury |822545 | RPT| BestA Fly by Night |1975|Mercury |822542 | PT| OK Caress of Steel |1975|Mercury |822543 | PT| OK Rush |1974|Mercury |822541 | PT| OK Story of Kings |z |Arabesque|4055 | | Show of Hands Video |z |PolyGram |041760 | | Red Sector A |z |Mercury |870717 | | Marathon |z |Mercury |870717 | | -------------------------------+----+---------+--------+-----+------ Flags: S-single R-reviews P-personnel T-tracks ---------- Biography ------------------ Inspired by Cream, Led Zeppelin, and Jimi Hendrix, the Toronto, Canada, power trio Rush formed in 1969, comprising guitarist Alex Lifeson (b Aug 27, 1953), bassist Geddy Lee (b Jul 29, 1953), and original drummer John Rutsey -- later replaced by Neil Peart (b Sep 12, 1952). Their first few albums were rather pedestrian hard rock, but the addition of Peart in 1974 prodded the group into a more complicated, heavy art-rock mode: King Crimson and Yes meet Led Zeppelin. "The Trees," metaphorically addressing the Quebec secessionist movement (off of 1978's #47 HEMISPHERES) became a controversial rock-radio hit. The 1980 album PERMANENT WAVES (#4), containing two substantial AOR hits with "Freewill" and "Spirit of the Radio" (#51), marked the beginning of a golden period for the band, which peaked with the #3 followup MOVING PICTURES. Rush briefly flirted with a more synthesized sound, sublimating the band's natural interplay. Fortunately, recent albums indicate Rush is back in top form with PRESTO and ROLL THE BONES. ~ Rick Clark ----------- Related Artists ----------- Voivod Primus King's X Galactic Cowboys ---------- Roots & Influences --------- Cream Led Zeppelin Yes Hendrix, Jimi ---------- Bibliography --------------- Harrigan, Brian |Rush |Omnibus Banasiewicz, Bill |Rush Visions: The Official Bi|Omnibus AMG Artist ID # : P000005323 ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 09:25 EST From: Apoorva Gandhi <0005623138@mcimail.com> Subject: (Forwarded) Exit Stage Left+ an example of an album review from that database. I think they have them for all the albums. WHAT is XMAS in Australia?? Apoorva --------------------------------- Forwarded message via: mailbox 1, agandhi on MCI ** Message Received OK Date: Sat Jul 16, 1994 11:30 pm EST Source-Date: 940717041146 From: X.400 Originator EMS: CompuServe / MCI ID: 592-7515 MBX: P=CSMAIL MBX: DDA=ID=72772.3547 TO: * Apoorva Gandhi / MCI ID: 562-3138 Subject: Exit Stage Left+ Message-Id: 31940717043013/0005927515D03X4 Source-Msg-Id: 940717041106 72772.3547 FHM74-1 ----------------------------- Application message id: 940717041106 72772.3547 FHM74-1 Importance: Normal Grade of Delivery: Normal ----------------------------- (C) 1991-1994 All-Music Guide Album : Exit Stage Left Artist : Rush Rating : Best-of-Artist Date : 1981 (release) Genre : Rock Charts : Billboard #010, entered Nov 14, 1981, on charts 021 weeks ---------- Album Releases ------------- CD Mercury 822551-2 1981 LP Mercury 7001 CS Mercury 822551-4 Time : 73:03 min AMG ID : R000017133 (album inprint) ---------- AMG Album Reviews ---------- A good live collection, possibly the best of their three such releases. ~ Rick Clark ---------- Album Personnel ------------ Geddy Lee - Guitar/Keyboards/Bass/Vocal Alex Lifeson - Guitar Neil Peart - Drums ---------- Album Tracks --------------- Spirit Of Radio Passage to Bangkok, A Red Barchetta YYZ Closer To The Heart Beneath, Between And Behind Jacob's Ladder Broon's Bane Trees, The Xmas In Australia Freewill Tom Sawyer La Villa Strangiato --------------------------------- End forwarded message ---------------------------------------------------------- From: stgi@stud.uni-sb.de (Steven Gibbons) Subject: Inspired by Rush Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 16:39:55 +0200 (CDT) To all Rushians, A couple of weeks back I went to see ENCHANT live in Mannheim; they were superb and after playing through nearly all of their 'Blueprint for the World' CD (produced br Steve Rothery..Marillion) they came back to play 'Enchanted' as an encore. During this track however, technical problems meant the guitar dropped out of the mix altogether, and afterwards we were told; that to make up for it all 'We've got one more song for you ... we've only ever played it once before so don't tell anyone about it (sorry guys !!..) ... it's a song by RUSH (cue massive applause!) about a young boy called TOM SAWYER!' ... and they played it and it was quite brilliant .. vocals too! The atmosphere was very goodthe whole evening but this last track had the audience wild - I doubt that there was a single person there who didn't sing all the words! - so if you get the chance to see them; do shout for this (but don't tell them I told you..)! They did two new tracks that sounded very Dream Theater-ish. Before the show I started talking to their lead singer as he was wearing this fabulous KANSAS 'Point of Know Return' T-shirt - my number 2 band! (Please reform and tour England boys ....) .. turns out they've always been his favourites, closely followed by Kings-X ... In the PENDRAGON fanzine's 'Desert Island Discs' feature, drummer Fudge Smith listed Number One .. RUSH - PRESTO ! .. the comment at the side simply said: Q: How many drummers does it take to change a light bulb? A: 11. One to change the bulb and ten to discuss how Neil Peart would have done it !!!! (That's English humour guys! .. I don't get it either ...) RTB. Steve. P.S. no-one like erm... Pavlov's Dog ? ... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 11:21:04 -0400 (EDT) From: BEN284@delphi.com Subject: Season premiere of MST3K w/ Geddy Hi, all. Did anyone catch the season premiere of Mystery Science Theater 3000 this past Saturday nite? The movie was "girls Towm" starring Mel Torme ("geez, he's always looked fifty!") and Paul Anka ("Say baby, I know a wonderful way for you to say you love me"). During the film, a woman called her little sister on the phone: Character 2: Is Merilee there? Character 1: no: she's off in trouble with her sister. Crow T. Robot: Well then, is Geddy Lee there? Also the MST3K convention on sept 16/17: any MSties on the NMS who will be attending? My girlfriend and I are in the decision satge of planning the trip to Minneapolis.....Post here if you're going or email me direct. Thanks! Ben Hancox ben284@delphi.com ************************************************************************** Idont wanna be a link to the mad poopies..........Gypsy - MST3K ************************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 10:38:18 -0600 From: keeks@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Tom Keekley) Subject: Shirt Offer!! Hello all: I purchased a shirt in a record store on vacation, but (AAAUUUGGHHH!) bought a large instead of an XL. I cannot wear it and other friends need XL. I would love for a proud NMSer to own it! It is black with the 'lock, stock, and barrel' images from CP and RUSH as on the album cover on the front and the complete graphic with all the 'threesomes' as inside the CP booklet (Tinker, Evers, Chance - Beneath, Between, and Behind . . etc.) on the back. This is NOT a tour shirt. If someone cares to email me Ill give you my address. I s'pose you send $10 and I'll cover the postage seems fair. However, I'm open to offers for a trade or something, so drop me a line. This shirt deserves a good home and a clean back to rest upon. Tom Keekley (Keeks) Minneapolis, USA ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 19:09:03 GMT+0100 From: farquharson@montrouge.sinet.slb.com (Kevin Farquharson) Subject: first post hi just a quick question.... when i went to see Rush at Wembley Arena back in April '88 (last night of the UK tour) a strange thing happened. during the last song (finding my way if I remember correctly) a bunch of guys all dressed in black wearing white bags over their heads armed with guitars ran on to the stage, ran around for a bit, then ran off. STRANGE!!!! anybody know who they were ? i suspect they must have been the road crew as their was no support that night. anyone think differently? also what other strange things happen like this......? can't wait for the next european tour. else maybe I'll just have to pop across to Toronto to see them. One last thing. Can anyone send me a Max Webster discography??? Bye for now. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: ahern@nordic.llnl.gov (Sean Ahern) Subject: Verbal acrobatics Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 10:37:58 -0700 (PDT) I just noticed some amazing verbal acrobatics by Geddy Lee. Listen to "Turn The Page" from HYF and then listen to it on A Show Of Hands. At the end of the studio version, there are tons of Geddy's overdubbed on each other, saying the lyrics at different times ("It's just the age", "standing in a time capsule", "It's just a stage", "racing down a river from the past"). When you listen to it on ASOH, HE STILL DOES THE SAME THING! He does it all himself. Obviously, he can't have overdubbing in concert, and the timing of the song would pretty much mean that it would be nearly impossible to add it pre-recorded. I am very impressed that he did it totally on his own... -- Sean Ahern------------ahern@viper.llnl.gov---------Lawrence Livermore Nat'l Lab My girlfriend asked me how long I was going to be gone on this tour. I said, "the whole time." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Bravado400@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 16:25:33 EDT Subject: cover band/interesting thought Another reminder for those in the NYC area: Power Windows, an excellent all-Rush cover band, plays Manhattan, Long Island, Brooklyn, Staten Island, and New Jersey. All true Rush fans will love them. E-Mail me for more info as I have their "gig calendar." Also, this popped up in a recent discussion: What song (or part of a song) do you think has been played live the most times? My guess would be In The Mood, assuming that was always played until recently. Any thoughts? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rude <rude@hacktic.nl> Subject: Rush concerts Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 23:07:39 +0200 (MET DST) Hi there, In May this year we, two friends and I, went to see the Rush concerts in Rochester, Montreal and Toronto. They were great, especially because they didn't come to Europe on their Counterparts-tour. I was wondering if any of you made any pictures during those concerts. Also if you made pictures of us in the break between I, mother earth and RUSH at the forum in Montreal. We, the 3 stooges from Holland, were holding a large banner which says "Holland loves (=heart) RUSH". I hope to hear from you by e-mail. CU -- "I can feel your presence in the silence that we share" NP ====================================================================== rude@xs4all.hacktic.nl l Ruud Raats +s Rotterdam, Holland Europe ====================================================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 21:59:17 -0400 (EDT) From: ROBOCK@delphi.com Subject: Rush in Studio & Boot II Hey, oppps. Any way I know a guy who lives in AZ and he knows a guy who works in a radio station who says that Rush is in the studio working on a concept album for release at the end of the year. Please do not hold me responsible for any truth or lies in this matter, I'm just passing along what I heard. I also have an extra copy of Northern Heroes on CD. Its an okay audince recording with a real nice package. If any one is intrested in this you can e-mail me at ROBOCK@DELPHI.com. Thanks Robert ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Neil's book ?? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 07:54:18 +0200 (WET) From: Jukka Autio <jautio@messi.uku.fi> Hi there ! Has anyone ordered Neil's book "Raindance Over Rockies" ? How can I get it, the FAQ says that it have to be ordered through Modern Drummer mag. But do I have to send money and how much & etc. etc ??? Any help would be highly appreciated. Thanks !! Jukka Autio University of Kuopio Finland ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Slaven <ras1@gov.nt.ca> Subject: Re: Rush albums road trip Date: Tue, 19 Jul 94 9:34:45 MDT > From: DEA@ACM.ORG > Subject: Rush on Road Trips > > Hi. > Somebody once mentioned taking a long road trip and listening to > every Rush album in chronological order. I'd just like to say I did > that this past weekend, and it was quite interesting hearing how their > sound has evolved through 20 years. The evolution was actually so <deletia> > John > I just finished a 6800-km road trip through BC and Alberta. I'd have *loved* to do the every-Rush-album thing, but it was a family trip, and my wife and daughter would have killed me and my son by, oh, Signals or thereabouts. We got by with Chronicles and Roll the Bones. But if anyone ever wants an excuse to have a road trip long enough for all the albums, come on up to Yellowknife some time. We're only about 1600 km north of Edmonton AB.... May I also say this is the first time I've ever posted to NMS? [No, I'm sorry, there isn't time....] -- -------robert_slaven@gov.nt.ca--------73757.601@compuserve.com------- Robert Slaven I like traffic lights, I like traffic lights, I like Legislative Assembly of the NWT traffic lights, but not Yellowknife, Northwest Territories, Canada when they are red. *******Just 'cause I work for 'em doesn't mean I speak for 'em******* ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob4drums@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Jul 94 13:15:56 EDT Subject: Re: #1(2) 07/14/94 - The Nati... Maybe a good question would be if ged,alex, or neil have any tatoos.....Rob ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:38:37 -0400 (EDT) From: PARMERTERB@hartwick.edu Subject: Mr Big playing Rush To the fan who was not happy at seeing the Mr Big boys playing a Rush song, then you probably wouldn't have wanted to be at the Celebrity Tennis Jam in Sept 1990 in Malibu (I wasn't there, but have a tape) when Alex and Geddy jammed with Pat Torpey (Mr Big drummer) on In the Mood and also with Kansas drummer for Closer to the Heart. Just a tidbit! Brad - alexmeister vonBastille ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 17:25:06 -0400 (EDT) From: THOM-US <TOLOCKWOOD@eden.cambrianc.on.ca> Subject: Happy Mirror Can anyone shed some available light on exactly what a "happy mirror" is? You can e-mail me direct! Thanx.. Tom Lockwood : "Some are born to move the world - Computer-Based Learning : To live their fantasies Cambrian College : But most of us just dream about Sudbury, Ontario, Canada : The things we'd like to be" tolockwood@eden.cambrianc.in.ca : Neil Peart ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeffrey Barnett <jrbarnet@mtu.edu> Subject: Rush's Recording Deal Date: Tue, 19 Jul 94 20:30:55 EDT Hello, I was wondering if anyone happens to know the status of Rush's recording contract with Atlantic. I thought I had heard a rumor that they had signed a three album deal before Cp. Can anyone confirm this? Just wondering, Jeff email: jrbarnet@mtu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 10:54:28 -0400 (EDT) From: PARMERTERB@hartwick.edu Subject: School Days/Rush on Radio-Lots/Questions/Mr Big Just some tidbits from the past few issues: In high school I exposed my class to mcuh Rush via t-shirt and music in class! When we did projects for The Crucible by Arthur Miller I played the P/g tour video of Witch Hunt and also gave them the lyrics and played the version from ASOH. The funnist moment was when a guy said "look at his nose!" I also played Rush in my Social Studies course, for the French Revolution, Bastille Day and on Earth Day in 1991 I treated them to The Trees. I also started every HIgh School dance I dj'd (about 10) with FOrce Ten! I hear a bit of Rush on Utica, NY's WOUR 96.9 - the best station around, as well as WPYX 106.5 from Albany. But here on the College station 89.7 WRHO in Oneonta (where I'm Program Director) I play a lot of Rush and have had a few three hour Rush shows where I've played everything from The Necromancer to Not Fade Away & You Can't FIght it! In regards to the Personal/or Rush related questions to the band. A very good friend of mine had the opportunity to sit down with the band in March and talk to them for a few minutes and he wanted to ask non-Rush related questions but when Geddy was asked about Zapota(?), his wife's clothing store Geddy said let's stick to Rush. Maybe he was sensitive about the question about his wife as the whole pregnancy thing was very low-key. Also, does anyone have Mr Big's live cd's Raw Like Sushi - I guess there are three of them out there and I'm interested in them if anyone can give me info! Finally, anyone with ticket stubs from Rush shows who haven't photocopied them and sent them along, please do so! I am desperately trying to finish up some tours and I need everyone's help! Thanks! Brad alexmeister vonBastill Brad Parmerter Box 115 Hartwick College Oneonta, NY 13820 parmerterb@hartwick.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Jamie????? From: DHUART@midas.sinclair.edu Date: 20 Jul 94 11:55:14 EDT Hello Rushville, Hey Jamie, send me your snail-address again please, so I can send you that book O.K. Sorry about that but the sys. went nutsolast night during a particular nasty micro burst. O. K. In keeping with recent threads, I'll enlighten you all as to who my dinner guests would be. I can't narrow it down to three, As if you really give a flying rats tuckus <grin> J.R.R. Tolkien, Aristotle, Don Gentile (American fighter ace WWII), Anyone from the future who can tell me this saturdays Ohio Lotto numbers (20 big ones), Lou Gerhig, Marilyn Monroe, Jack the Ripper and last but certainly not least Jesus Christ. Dinner will be served this Thursday evening @ 6:30 sharp. The menu Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh... how about Chinese. Het Art, Wher the heck are you hiding Spotty?? I think I'd have to ask Bruce Holtgren to come to dinner as well, to record the evenings certainly lively conversation for posterities sake. Cheers Dave ******************************************************************************* * A spirit with a vision, is a dream with a mission -np * * Df..ggGG30^^ 787.. * * Mach address: Wango Tango * machine add. Wango Tango * ******************************************************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Paul Loch <lochadam@student.msu.edu> Subject: Re: Caress of Steel tape Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 14:20:41 -0400 (EDT) I was wondering if anyone knew about this. On my tape version of _CoS_, the songs are out of order. "Didacts and Narpets" is flipped around with "I think I'm goin' Bald", so that the Fountain of Lamneth is throughly screwed up. When I got the tape, i didnt think it sounded in the right order, so I went to the record store and looked at the back of the CD, and saw the REAL order. THe sonds are also listed wrong on the tape and liner. I was just wondering if anyone else had this problem. Oh yeah, and whoever was talking about the Detroit Tigers last time, they need more than Rush on the PA to help them. They need some pitching!! --Adam -*- <lochadam@student.msu.edu> -*- "Drive like the wind, straining the limits of machine and man..." ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 15:51:22 -0500 (EST) From: JBFST1@vms.cis.pitt.edu Subject: Merely Players I've been out of communication with TNMS since April, and I was wondering what the situation with the new live album. I heard it was coming out in early July, but it's not out yet. Could someone either post or write me and fill me in. Thanks, Fletch ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Brigge@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Jul 94 13:13:10 EDT Subject: GEDLES A fairly funny interview between two 'wild and crazy guy.' Hope you enjoy! ================================================================= (_CREEM_ magazine; March 1994; p. 64-67) "CRASH COURSE IN BASS SURGERY" Rush's Geddy Lee and his Primus counterpart Les Claypool laugh like a pair of Stooges. Intro and interview transcription by Paul Semel Their guitarists have sheepish smiles, their singers have big noses, but Rush and Primus have more in common than good looks. Both trios mix complex rhythmic structures, streaming guitars, and literate lyrics, and all six members are big Three Stooges Fans - as immortalized both in the new Primus tune, "Poetry and Prose," recorded for The Beavis & Butt-head Experience (Geffen) and the liner notes of Rush's new album Counterparts (Anthem/Atlantic). But beyond that, beyond the mutual respect, friendship, and the endless jams we'll never hear, are the completely opposite misconceptions they both suffer: Primus are thought of as a bunch of cartoonish meatballs, while Rush is considered to be a group of mind-blowing instrumental perfectionists, when both could be said of either band. Similarly, Primus' Les Claypool is one of the most unusual and original bassists ever - he could eventually be as influential a bassist as Rush's percussion master Neil Peart is a drummer - yet Rush's recent shows have included giant dancing rabbits. So what happens when you get Les Claypool and his Rush counterpart Geddy Lee together? You don't want to know. ********************** LES: So what do you think of us? When we came to do your tour, the last time, I would assume you got demo tapes and had to pick through a few different things, and all of a sudden here come three guys ... [laughs] I mean, there are a lot of parallels between us and you guys, and a lot of differences. Did you ever think we were ripping you off or anything? [laughs] GEDDY: No, no ... LES: When you heard the "YYZ" intro to "Suck on This" it didn't ... GEDDY: I thought it was great. There aren't too many bands that have thrown bits of our stuff into their songs. Whether it's for musical purposes or humorous purposes you're never quite sure. Someone at the record company had sent us a copy of _Sailing the Seas of Cheese_ [Interscope], and when I first heard it, there was something that reminded me of this band from Canada called Max Webster, something in the combination of musicianship and zaniness. There was this zany quality, but also a sense that these guys are players; they can play and they want to play. LES: We sure fooled you. [laughs] GEDDY: Right on. [both laugh] But it's quite a different sound live to me, a much heavier sound. There's a hypnotic appeal to a lot of the rhythmic stuff that you do on stage that didn't come through to me on that record. When you first started playing with us, I was impressed with the quality of the musicianship and certainly your approach to playing bass, which I think is unique, very individual. I don't think there's a lot of guys playing like you play; the whole rhythmic approach to bass playing is very hypnotic. I also thought the complexity and just the texture of a lot of your arrangements was really interesting. LES: I think a lot of hypnotic quality could be attributed to the abundance of pot smoke that was floating through the air of the auditorium. [both laugh] As far as us being heavier live, I think that's due to us not being very good producers quite yet. [laughs] We're still trying, you know. So, has your son ventured out to rock shows on his own? GEDDY: No, not yet. He's express(ed) interest in some bands, and actually he's been listening to _Pork Soda_ a lot lately. LES: Better get him to some therapy real quick. GEDDY: It's probably putting him off rock music forever. [both laugh] LES: The Rush show was actually my first, aside from going to dances and seeing Top 40 or whatever. I had to call my dad at work and say, "Friends of mine are going to a show tonight, and I want to go," and we actually got a ticket from a scalper, but it was like, "Who's driving? Who's doing this?" GEDDY: At least he asked those questions. It's amazing how many kids come up to me and tell me that we were the first rock show they saw. It still happens, which is amazing, since - being around this long - you'd think most people in the audience would be 40 years old, but they're not. There's a lot of young guys that, for some reason, cut their teeth on our shows or something. LES: Well, I think this new album will open a lot of young people up to it as well. Right now it's a time for a lot of new albums from a lot of heavy bands - Nirvana and Pearl Jam - so we've been getting these CDs in and listening to them, and it's, like, this Rush album is definitely a big, fat thing. GEDDY: That's what we were after. The main thing we decided when we started planning this record out was that we wanted to go away from the sound we had on the last couple albums; we wanted a less polite, more aggressive, larger sound. We wanted the bottom-end-of-the-band thump again. We were a little disappointed in the last album [_Roll the Bones_ (Anthem/Atlantic)] from a sound point of view, because there were a couple of songs we wanted to rock out more, but when it came time to mixing, it just wasn't there to be had. Through the last tour, when we were playing some of the stuff from the last album, to me it just sounded better live. It was like, lights go on and go, "We're doing something wrong; we're not capturing a sound that should be gotten on stage." LES: Well definitely the new album, as I told you when we were hanging out up in your zone, has the huge, fat Geddy Lee signature tone of my youth. GEDDY: Oh, that one. LES: So maybe you can tell all the people what you told me as far as how you got that sucker. Unless you don't want to spill your secrets. GEDDY: No, no secrets. Ancient Chinese secrets. Basically it all started with the desire to be less polite on this record, and a comment that our producer made to me, Peter Collins, when we started talking about this record. It was also a comment that our sound guy had made a couple of times on the last tour that maybe my sound was getting a little tame, a little polite. So I thought about it and I thought, "Okay, I can unpolite my sound, no problem." We did a lot of A/B-ing with different records and our own records; we were really quite determined to get that down. LES: We do a lot of A/B-ing when we're in the studio with different records, and one of the records that we A/B always is _Moving Pictures_. It's just got the big, fat sound. You can A/B yours with _Seas of Cheese_ to find out what you don't want it to sound like. [both laugh] GEDDY: You can drive yourself crazy with production. The main thing is if the material is there and the performance is vibing. You can twiddle forever. There's the whole Mutt Lange school of making records where you just twiddle for four years ... LES: Who's that? GEDDY: Mutt Lange - he produces Def Leppard, Bryan Adams, so on and so forth. You can spend a couple or four years making a record, and every hair is in place and everything is sonically correct, but I don't know that a band like ours or a band like yours, that enjoy playing and have a degree of spontaneity, I don't think either of us could serve that style of production. There has to be a way in between so you're not so stale by the time you go to play. I know to Neil it's increasingly more important to him to have someone who can capture the sound of his drums so he can just get in there and start wailing. LES: Is he pretty particular? GEDDY: It's funny; he's particular about everything he plays, and he practices two solid weeks before he goes in to do his drums, and he has everything orchestrated to a "T," and he's very particular on how his drums sound - he tunes them impeccably - but he doesn't like to bang those drums for days to get that sound. Fortunately, the last two engineers we've worked with have been very good, and the guy who recorded Neil's drums on this album, I think, has done the best job of recording his sound of anybody. He did 11 tracks in two-and-a-half days, which is insanely fast for this kind of rock record. I think you have to have a pretty together team for that to happen; all the planets have to be aligned and all that stuff. [laughs] LES: I'm finding that the more I'm familiar with the equipment and can actually get in there hands-on, the better off things are. The same with Larry [LaLonde - Primus' guitarist, AKA "Ler"] and Herb [Tim Alexander, AKA Herb - Primus' drummer]; Herb has so many drums, and he knows what he wants to hear, and I see him get so frustrated when he can't hear the subtlety of a certain drum. GEDDY: Alex [Lifeson - Rush's guitarist] takes that approach: he likes to be very hands-on, he engineers all our demos. Whenever he and I write together he runs the machines - which is the exact opposite of me, because I don't want to know how anything operates, I just want it to work. I got an idea, I want to get it on tape, I don't want to sit there and analyze whether it should have this EQ or that EQ. To me, the ideas are precious, and the spontaneity in the writing process is something I really feel is very valuable, so I like to have the least confusion between what I hear in my head and what I want to play. I always keep a tape recorder running, because sometimes while you're diddling, you lose that spark somewhere. LES: Well, my experience with Alex in his studio was pretty a ... we were just drunk out of our minds. I couldn't even figure out how to play the bass. GEDDY: You're saying it wasn't a musical experience but a visceral experience. LES: It was a scary experience. It was the first time I'd ever picked up my bass and just couldn't do anything, and he was exactly the same on his guitar. GEDDY: You gotta watch out for Big Al. [both laugh] LES: Big Al was in full force, and whatever I was. I was slurring Les. And Ler was just comatose somewhere. Slur and Ler. [Both laugh, again. What is this, Beavis and Butt-head? - Ed.] GEDDY: When you guys write, do you write all together? LES: It depends. The thing about us is that, because the band had been around for four years before Larry and Herb had even gotten in the band, we had a ton of tunes, so there were a lot of tunes just to do already, and Larry and Herb interpreted them as they would. It hasn't been until these past couple records that we've been able to write, and _Pork Soda_ is really the only record where most of the record has been completely new. A lot of it comes from just jamming, mostly me and Herb. We'll come up with a riff or a groove and try like hell to remember it, and then Ler will generally put some textural thing over it. GEDDY: And do you then write lyrics and put a melody to the music you've already written? LES: I have a lot of notebooks lying around with maybe just a sentence or just a couple of words or a short story or whatever, and sometimes I'll flip through them and something will spark with a riff that we happen to be jamming on recently or a lyric will inspire a riff. And some songs I just write and arrange myself. GEDDY: When you write by yourself, do you start with lyrics or start with music, or does it differ? LES: It's always different. Certain riffs will spark a certain mood or a strange little ditty in my head, and it'll go from there. GEDDY: When you do riffs first, do you always write on the bass or do you write on the guitar sometimes? LES: I've written a couple things on guitar, but I'm not a very good guitarist; I mostly play drums if I play anything. But mainly it's the bass. GEDDY: Listening to you describe how you write is so similar to how we write in a lot of ways. At one point in our career, maybe eight or ten years ago, so many of our songs were written out of jams - they still are to a certain degree - but we used to jam every sound check. It was the best part of the day. We used to have a standing rule that the sound guy would have to record every jam. And then I'd get home from the tour and have these hours of ... crap. [laughs] LES: That you thought was the greatest thing at the time. [laughs] GEDDY: That's right. And after hours of isolating and editing and editing, you wind up with 45 minutes of snippets. But sometimes great ideas come out of that. LES: I've found that, with Larry and Herb, our best material is spontaneous and it's stuff that I go into without much of a preconceived idea as to what it should sound like. But there's a lot of stuff that will never make it to Primus records, which is one reason why Prawn Song [his indie label] is so good a thing for me, because I can make these weird things and put them out and have them not be Primus. Those two are such characters, as people and playing-wise as well, I think they shine the best when I'm not trying to get them to do something that isn't natural for them. There's definitely a "Herb riff," that's what Herb really enjoys playing, this certain driving rhythm. Just as with me there's some certain driving funk-type rhythms that I enjoy playing, which isn't necessarily right for Primus. I've been playing with a lot of jazz and R&B musicians lately, which is great for my chops. I'm always finding that playing with other people makes my chops that much better, and when we come together as Primus, it can be Primus, and not a yearning for something new. GEDDY: I think that's one thing, for all the benefits of being in one band for so 20 years and dedicating ourselves to this one musical idea, but we've become a little insular in the sense that we haven't had enough access to other musical scenes. In one sense it's been a saving grace for our band, it's kept our sound pure and sincere, but on the other side, there's a lot of opportunities to work with other people that would be good on some point. We could say, "Rush isn't going away, we can take a year out and do other things." It might be coming to that time. LES: Have you been approach-ed by anyone? GEDDY: I've been approached by many people over the years, but it's always, "I'm in the middle of a Rush tour," or, "I'm about to start a Rush album," or, "I've just finished a Rush tour; do I want to spend my precious few months off going straight into a studio with somebody else?" It's difficult enough finding time to have a life. ================================================================= ----------------------------------------------------------
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