The National Midnight Star #824

Date: Tue, 23 Nov 93 18:30:11 -0500 Message-Id: <9311232330.AA19749@syrinx.umd.edu> Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu Subject: 11/23/93 - The National Midnight Star #824
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Tour info (well, sort of) re-post, Thanksgiving Parody Early albums Nobody's Hero (slight references to Rand, the Pass) MTV calling times Ged on the cover of Bass Player Ticken number in AZ and NM ticket stories... sob story Lifesons technique on A Show of Hands : WAS RE:RUSH Untied Notes Rockumentary? Geddy's High Voice the Oct 14 interview :^) Re: Animation 1812 in 2112 Dream Theater,SIO Vid.............. Animate! Gift Idea! Why the sun? Geddy with a pick? Gift/Nobody's Hero 11/22/93 - The National M Parody: ***Cold Shower*** LA Date, Gift, Concert Get Togethers Tour dates in Western Canada ? The Story of Kings ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager) Date: Tue Nov 23 16:51:22 EST 1993 Subject: Administrivia This is just a reminder for compuserve users: The digest is now being posted in its entirety to the RockNET forum. You can then get the digest without having to pay the mailing fees associated with the NMS, if you want to unsubscribe just remember to send it to the proper address! (Thanks again to Bruce!) And tickets will be going on sale December 11 for these shows: Pensacola, New Orleans, Las Cruces, Phoenix - rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 14:20:17 -0500 From: cp00410@dcsc.dla.mil ( Richard M Diehl ) Subject: Gowan I apologize if this is in the FAQ but I was unable to download a readable copy of the most current FAQ. It just give a bunch of letters and basically a mess. Sometimes the Digests do that too when I download them via FTP. The Digest will start off ok, then a bit into it it gets all jumbled. Does anyone know what causes that? Anyhow, now for the reason for my post. I ran across a CD by Gowan on which Alex plays guitar. Does anyone have any info on this? Is it worth getting? What style is the music? Any info you can provide would help. Thanks. Rick ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 16:49:38 -0500 (EST) From: PARMERTERB@hartwick.edu Subject: radio/mtv/etc FOr everyone flaming radio stations about not playing RUsh, be paitient-it is not all that uncommon for radio stations not to have every new disc. Many stations do not get everything new and some of the time they DO have to buy it! Some record companies can be a real pain in the bum to get stuff from - not only on the college level but commercially as well! Confirmation on Mtv playing the SIO video! My father said he caught the last bit of Stick it Out the other night around 11 pm on Sat (most likely the Ball), so he has seen the new Rush video before I have!!! BTW, has anyone else attended a RUSH concert with their parent/s? I needed a ride to see them in Hartford on the BOnes tour and after getting a ride from my brother for the Albany show, my father and I headed up the next night for a long trek to Hartford and he actually loved the show!!! A quote I won't forget is when he turned to me after Neil' s solo and said "doesn't he get a break now?" "april in toledo, I'm talking to myself..." PS-anyone have Max Webster stuff/recordings, etc -let me know! Brad parmerterb@hartwick.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 23:04:21 +0100 (MET) From: Jack Kugler <zxmjk07@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de> Subject: Einladung Friends on the RUSH mailing list, This is an invitation to attend the informal debut of Counterparts, ie we finally got the new CD ready, here in Tuebingen, Germany. As far as I know I have the only copy in town and I am sure this is not on the radio here. I therefore have to balls to call this the Tuebingen Debut. The debut will take place at my place: Viktor-Rennerstr. 2/65.3 on Wednesday the 23rd of May, 1993 at 8 pm Germany time, or whenever I show up (around 8). Please RSVP, via e-mail, personal response, or whatever else seems to work. This is somewhat of a potluck wingding kinda deal. I will have some assorted whatever on hand, but I will not make any guarantees, so if you want something particular bring it with. Your Host, Hans Kugler PS For those of you who get this invite too late, sorry, but I ain't waiting any longer. For those of you who are not in Germany, hey I tried. Yes I know the CD has been out for some time, but I finally found it here, therefore this thing is now. And for the ORQ "Take Youself a Friend" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 17:40:13 -0500 From: Scott David Daly <skipdaly@wam.umd.edu> Subject: new RUSH books!! Howdy! Does anyone know the latest on the B-Man's new book or Andrew Macnaughton's book? I know there were some problems awhile back with the band wanting some stuff to be changed, but it's been a while and I haven't heard anything new... Anyone?... Skip [ Last I heard there isn't anything going on with B-Man, and Andrew's book project I heard is on hold. It doesn't look like it's gonna happen or he's just way too busy. So I guess don't expect anything real soon. :rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 22 Nov 93 16:42:00 CST From: "SAEIS3::RGRAVES" <RGRAVES%SAEIS3.decnet@auscam.amd.com> Subject: AMAZING DISCOVERIES(tm) The Rushfan(tm) Zone Music from The Alien Shore You and I, we are driven by this threesome Slave to their music, lyrics, and show In a struggle to hear every single CD We won't have time to eat, drink, or sleep You and I, we must bow before the professor A man of percussion and thoughtful lyrics We airdrum with him from the concert floor Reaching to find the Rushfan(tm) Zone For you and me For you and me, Rush is not a Limbaugh convention For you and me, Rush is just our god's description For you and me, it's Rush extreme You and I, we are impressed by Geddy's basslines Funky and smooth, solid and groove It's Peart's verses that he sings His keyboard style brings us to our knees For you and me, Rush is not a complication For you and me, Rush is not a drug addiction For you and me, it's Rush extreme Reaching for the Rushfan(tm) Zone You and I, we must pray to Mr. Lifeson A guitar god, and king of the strings Playing solos with such emotion and tone Reaching for the Rushfan(tm) Zone For you and me, Rush is not a drug addiction For you and me, Rush is not a Limbaugh convention For you and me, we hold these boyz to be self-indulgent For you and me, we elect them president For you and me, it's Rush extreme (But that's just Rush) Reaching for the Rushfan(tm) Zone (But that's just Rush) Reaching for the Rushfan(tm) Zone (But that's just Rush) Reaching for the Rushfan(tm) Zone ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 14:10:10 -0500 From: junoks@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Stacey Ksenzakovic) Subject: Cp review in Purdue Exponent Hi I saw this in our local student run newspaper, which is also free BTW, and at first I thought I was hallucinating, but it's real. Unlike other rude ppl who directly post two-screen transcriptions, I'm going to send it to the rush-mgr like a good little girl. [ And see where that gets you, posting it almost 2 weeks later.. :) : rush-mgr ] Rush blends alternative, '70's styles on recent CD -------------------------------------------------- by Nikolaos Chivikas, staff writer They're back! No, not the spirits from Poltergeist, but the ever- so-inventive trio from Canada- Rush. They're at it again with their 19th compact disc, "Counterparts." As always, their music takes off in a completely different direction from their previous material, and "Counterparts" is no exception. This time though, they have taken bits and pieces of the '90's alternative scene and added their '70's perspective to bring to their fans an interesting twist. After taking a brief hiatus from their last disc, the more commer- cial recording "Roll the Bones," Rush went to Toronto in April of this year to record their follow-up. The album is characteristic of Rush with Geddy Lee's vocals and bass on the cutting edge, Alex Lifeson's guitar searing from riff to riff, and Neil Peart's drums making their presence known. The combination of their abilities over the years has now fused together to make them one, as well as "counterparts." It is here that they chose the title for their new disc. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, "counterparts" is defined as both duplicate and opposite in the sense of "forming a natural compliment to one another." [Gee, I can't tell he's just quoting Neil, can you??] The first single, "Stick it Out," is reminiscent of the '70's hard rock scene with Lee's vocals, but the flying guitar work, powerhouse drumming and addition of synthesizers [thought they had those already?] brings it to the '90's with a new face. Although Rush has entered the '90's with rawness and refinement on this disc, there is no mistaking this band with another. You can still appreciate such oldies [what is he calling OLD?] as "Fly By Night," "the Spirit of Radio," and "Tom Sawyer." The orchestration of the fourth track "Nobody's Hero" was arranged and conducted by Michael Kamen (of "Jack the Ripper" fame from the Last Action Hero Original Motion Picture Soundtrack [excuse me how many of you know what THAT is?]). The acoustic guitar on this song is great and the vocals have adjusted to this style of play to bring out another side of Rush. The subject matter is of a '90's tale, as it tells a story that some may be able to relate to in today's society of ever-changing classes [whatever that means]. Rush is always doing things to surprise their fans with new music. They have done it again with "Counterparts" and done it with style. Not bad for a band that has endured 18 previous discs and 19 years of hard work. In 1994, they will celebrate 20 years together (Rhinestone Anniversary [wonder where he got that]) since the release of their self-titled debut disc. [This guy likes discs, eh?] How will they celebrate this milestone? Chances are they will celebrate it with their fans [especially us I hope], for it is they who have continued to buy Rush CDs and remained faithful through the years. .................................................. Oh yeah, I forgto to mention [] are my comments. This guy seems to be a fan, probably only recent since he's trying to sound like he knows a lot but he doesn't. Maybe I should get him an NMS subscription, eh? Also there was a picture with it-- Alex on the right in all black- looks like maybe a trench coat, Neil in the middle in a horizontal striped shirt and a bandana (looks a bit more like the lead singer of Primus than other Neil pics), and Geddy on the left in his round tinted glasses and a black button shirt with some lighter color on the front. Nice hairdo too. :) Blessed be, Juno (aka Julie and Panacea) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ "Mysteries of night escape the light of day" ^ \ / ^ ^ (Mystic Rhythms) ^ ----><---- ^ ^ .. ._.. .. . _.. ^ / \ ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 22 Nov 1993 15:50:15 PST From: "PALOALTO.CRENSHAW" <CRENSHAW@PALOALTO.EPRI.COM> Subject: Counterparts Blue Whoops, I goofed...or I assumed too much. Turns out the blue is a process color, not Pantone. The U.S. blue is 100% cyan, 50% magenta and 30% black (approximately). I *knew* you've been waiting on pins and needles, wondering about that... :-) Canadians, get yer loupes out an' check out them dots...enquiring, slightly bent minds want to know what the Canadian blue is! Ok, now back to your normally scheduled not *quite* so trivial Rush trivia... Cheryl Renshaw crenshaw@paloalto.epri.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: gt3144a@prism.gatech.edu (Zlatbo) Subject: Re: 11/22/93 - The National Midnight Star #823 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 19:51:13 -0500 (EST) > Date: Sat, 20 Nov 93 19:28:17 -0500 > From: junoks@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Stacey Ksenzakovic) > Subject: who am i and picture theory > > HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! That order is the same as their places on stage!! > That could be it!! Of course probably a zillion people figured this out > already, so I'm just repeating things over and over redundantly. I think this is the reason. This explanation occured to me shortly after I wrote the original post. > Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 20:03:11 -0800 (PST) > From: Robert Russ <russ@beast.sdsc.edu> > Subject: ANIMATE: not the song - the GIFT!! > Imagine for a moment the presentation ceremony to give our gift to the > boys: Some kind of nifty banquet type thing, hopefully hosted by <fill > in your favorite video music network here>, and preceding the actually > presentation of the sculpture (my personal fave idea so far) the lights > dim and a dazzling computer animation anthology of 20 years of Rush > blasts onto the screen. Mixed together with a montage of various > favorite songs from our favorite Canadians, we see imagery depicting the > incredible rush their music brings to us all!! This sounds great. The computer animation idea occured to me, but I don't have access to much in the way of animation hardware/software, so I didn't bother to mention it. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 20:00:07 EST From: Gary B. Card <gah@ccs.neu.edu> Subject: Yes! Animate the gift! Dudes, Robert Russ's idea was incredible I thought. And it sounds like he definitely has the capacity to put together something impressive. I think we need to back him up. [ Yes! This is a very good idea. I think what Robert is looking for here is some support and more importantly IDEAS!! He's going to need a lot of input/feedback as far as what the actual video will be, and what imagery to include, what songs to include, what type of animation sequence, objects, etc.. should go into this video. What I'll be doing soon is setting up an account for all you people to send in your feedback and ideas so that Robert can get going on this. This is a great idea folks and Robert is a wizard at what he does. I think with enough input, ideas and support we can pull this off without any problems! Ho-hoo! :rush-mgr ] Personally, I've given it some thought and I think that Xanadu is a song that should NOT be left out of the proposed medley. It's certainly a Rush classic, and one of my favorites, especially in concert. Also, it lends itself to a moving and captivating animation sequence. Choose a slow section of the song, one of the parts heavy with keyboards, OR (preferrably) one of the fast-paced portions: "Waiting for the world to end, weary of the night..." Perhaps a depiction of the River Alph or the pleasure dome could be worked in, I'm not very creative. Key would be a bright flash as Geddy shouts the word "Xanadu". Computerized images of the Caves of Ice would be interesting... [ This is the type of stuff I think Robert is looking for! It sounds good to me! More feedback anyone? :rush-mgr ] The idea overall is a good one, whichever songs are chosen. Go with it! Gah ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 19:18:36 -0600 From: Terry Weaver <cygnus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> Subject: Tour info (well, sort of) Greetings, blah blah blah. I live in Austin, TX and work at the Frank Erwin Center, the venue that Rush played on the HYF and RTB tours (they skipped Austin for Presto). They might have even come before HYF, but I can't be sure. Anyways, I was eavesdropping around the Events office, and heard that Rush had confirmed a date for late Jan, or early Feb. Sounds good, no? No. Later that week, they cancelled the Austin confirmation along with several others. Apparently, they changed their minds about their schedule and are dropping some dates, or they are just starting the tour later. As always (snicker), any new info will be posted here first, so all you keen guys and gals can know about it. Terry Weaver cygnus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu "Sigs are for pussies." --Dave Hicks ---------------------------------------------------------- From: glen reed <reed@cs.odu.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 20:30:28 -0500 Subject: re-post, Thanksgiving Parody Rushppl -- Well... not every lost post was about the "Stick it Out" video or L.A. tickets there, rush-mgr... my poor Thanksgiving parody was lost :( [ Hey, gimme a break, I'm trying! :rush-mgr ] Hey, that's ok.. we all love ya anyway! So... I figured I'd re-post this thing & try to get it out on the airwaves before Thanksgiving actually arrives (yes, that's Thanksgiving in the U.S., for those in Canada & other countries). Credit also goes to Matt <mjp@umich.edu> as well as to Josh <chapman@bach.udel.edu> for helping with these lyrics (yes.. as David Letterman would say -- "It took three people to write this letter") Oh.. before I get to that, I feel it's kind of necessary to plug IRC and #p/g! a little more (since I've been called both a "patriarch" of that channel as well as its "dictator" -- hi Jamie!).... Anyway, c'mon, join us if you'd like, but keep one small thing in mind -- we ARE all Rush fans on there, but we don't talk ONLY of Rush (you run out of things to say after a few days). Anyway... it's best to check late at night (by EST standards) & probably not until next week... a lot of people go home this week, eh! Okay, enough of that... on with the parody! and Happy Thanksgiving! "The Big Turkey" -- Music by Lee & Lifeson -------------- Lyrics by Chapman, Phillips and Reed Big turkey can feed half the world Big turkey and some yams Big turkey takes all day to cook Big turkey beats a ham Big turkey has a crisp brown skin Big turkey and stuffing Big turkey got a yummy taste Big turkey got a little poppy thing Sometimes passing stuffing around Sometimes carving up the bird Sometimes eating cranberry sauce Sometimes gravy must be stirred It's the feathers and the glory It's a war in the coop It's a turkey story On a pile of turkey poop Big turkey can feed half the world Big turkey taste real good Big turkey, he can kick your ass Big turkey from the 'hood Big turkey got a mighty beak Big turkey has big thighs Big turkey makes a damn fine roast Big turkey got no eyes Sometimes watching Macy's parade Sometimes watching a first down Sometimes building you a freeway To transport the turkey on It's really quite a vision It's something kind of quirky It's the fool on television Getting played to dress like a turkey Big turkey can feed half the world Big turkey will get eat Big turkey got a million feathers Big turkey can't be beat Big turkey got a hefty leg Big turkey cooked by mom Big turkey gonna be your feast Big turkey's name is Tom ___ ........................................... ___// \ / : Glen Reed : reed@cs.odu.edu : / | / :...........: cj631@freenet-in-a.cwru.edu : / __/ / ............:.............................: / \ /| | /| /__ : Formerly : greed@udel, 3tanvoz@cmich : / | / | /| / \ // \ :...........:.............................: __/ X /_/ |/ __|/ \_____ : I woke up one day, I was 23. Lost a : reed@ \ cs.odu.edu : whole year -- 365 days down the drain. : \_______________________:_________________________________________: ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 21:37:05 -0400 (AST) From: "Stewart F. Hayne" <x92vld@pX1.stfx.ca> Subject: Early albums Ok, I'll get the "This is my first post" stuff out of the way. There. I read on the last TMS that "caress of steel, fly by night" took some getting used to. Wow, my first album was moving pictures, then 2112, then fly by night then caress of steel. The feeling that I get is that a lot of rush fans out there seem to like the new (post 82) stuff more than the early stuff. Is that so? I don't have many albume post 82 (just presto and power windows). The early stuff is by far the best! Who is with me! To stregthen my point I read a poll about favorite albums. Fly by night was near the bottom! Can you beleive this! my top 5 (some are too hard to place one better than another so no part. order) 1.Fly by Night 2.Moving Picutres 3.2112 4.Presto 5.Caress of Steel -Stewart F. Hayne Halifax Nova Scotia x92vld@phoenix.stfx.ca (Saint Francis Xavier University) any X-men out there? ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 12:49:14 +1100 From: acleary@thrain.anu.edu.au (Andy Cleary) Subject: Nobody's Hero (slight references to Rand, the Pass) I did my damndest to find previous posts on this subject at Syrinx, but it's just too difficult to wade through that many digests. Wouldn't it be nice to have an index into all digests of all subjects? Ha! Not bloody likely! [ Hey I was just contemplating this idea myself. Any takers? Someone with lots of time and nothing to do? :) : rush-mgr ] So, I missed the most of the posts in which interpretations of the lyrics in Nobody's Hero were given, in particular, any quotations from the band on this subject I've missed, though I've seen some later references to them. I would say (and this seems to be the consensus) that only a small part of the song's theme is the sexuality issue. That verse's true purpose is to contribute to the larger theme of heros. >From what I can tell, and I apologize if I misinterpret someone, the consensus seems to be that the two people specifically referred to (the guy who died of AIDS and the woman who was murdered) are heros in some sense. Most of the debate seems to centre around what kind of hero. It seems fairly clear that certain people are clearly judged as heros by Peart while others are not, as listed in the chorus (and for the record, I think these are good examples and make a good point). But what about these two people? What is he trying to say when he says ``but they're nobody's hero"? I think most people are interpreting this to mean ``they're nobody's hero but they ought to be." Perhaps this is a bit subtler, as in something more like ``they're not really heros in the traditional sense but in a more personal, subjective sense, they're heros to themselves and/or Peart". Nobody seems to interpret the ``they're nobody's hero" line in the negative, and it is this possibility I wanted to mention. Could it be he means that they are not heros at all? This is the interpretation I tend to like, though I realize I set myself up to be accused of not being very humanitarian/sensitive, though I will argue that that conclusion does not follow from my interpretation at all. The interpretation goes something like: sure, the death of these people is a tragedy. There was no reason a person should die the nasty death of AIDS just because of his choice of sexuality (nor for that matter should he have *anything* nasty associated with his sexual choice, it just doesn't matter). An innocent woman should not have been murdered for no reason. These are horrible things and are worthy of consideration and emotional response. They do not, however, raise the victim to hero status. Heros are people (or should be) who have performed heroic acts (a tautology, I realize, but one that is nevertheless informative). Quite frankly, dying in and of itself has never been a heroic act to Peart, as he has addressed several times before in song lyrics (the Pass (as an aside, I never offered my opinion on the `Christ what have you done' debate, but to the recent poster who offered that the lyric could have just as well have been `damn, what have you done', you don't give much credit to Neil and you have missed a quite telling condemnation of martyrdom and the most famous and most harmful martyr to human society, christ) and I seriously doubt that he has about-faced on that issue. In this interpretation, the message is that despite our emotional response to these tragedies, we should not start counting martyrs or people that have as their main claim to fame their own tragic death as heros nor belittle the contributions of true heros. I suppose this seems a cold interpretation, in that I am not giving as much tribute to the victims as in the more common interpretation, but it depends on how you look at it: I'm giving much more tribute to true heros than the common interpretation, and in the end shouldn't they be the people we admire and pattern ourselves after and aspire to be rather than to want to be an innocent victim? There is still every bit of room in this interpretation for pathos towards innocent victims, but they are not heros. The definition of a heroic act is a bit more fuzzy, but Peart obviously means it to include the examples given as an indication. Generally, he seems to indicate (and I would pretty much concur) an almost Rand-iesque (danger! Flames from Philosopher-king Jaegger (sp?) possibly forthcoming! ;-) Actually, before I gave up news reading as too time-consuming, I used to read Greg quite often on objectivist and libertarian groups and found him to be very informed and his posts quite well thought out, and I also usually judged him to have won his arguments, so I'm not trying to bring out another argument. I'm not referring to Rand in a technical philosophical argument (which I would surely lose not being trained in philosophy) but rather invoking her name as an adjective to describe certain ideas, which may or may not very accurately reflect her technical philosophy) view of heros (note the word `almost'). In either case, this is more of a gray area and more open to debate. As Gregg pointed out, the example of saving the drowning child is actually probably counter to truly `objectivist' moral philosophy (unless there was no risk to the saver and he deemed the extension of the child's life to be something personally enjoyable?), continuing the chronicle of Peart's evolution from disciple of Rand to a more libertarian/freedom of choice (which is an evolution that seems to happen to a lot of people who get hooked on Rand by sharing a dislike of many things that she condemns but who then realize that her vision of life comes up a bit short, also). [ It's good to see that I'm not the only one thinking about Gregg as far as the Rush philosophizing goes :-) Boy I sure hope this doesn't develop into a big giant "once-again!" Rand thread. :rush-mgr ] RUSH in Australia? The only bands that travel down under are those that can get half the population to pay for tickets in the space of a few shows, i.e. those that can fill up the huge outdoor stadiums. While RUSH certainly have a following here, I don't think they can do that. Now, if they added a dozen dancers who were willing to prance around nude and simulate orgies on stage, it might happen. Worked for Madonna, didn't it? Andy Cleary Senior Research Fellow, Centre for Mathematics and its Applications Ausralian National University acleary@thrain.anu.edu.au I hate to ask people to dig through old things, but if there were any quotes from the band (particularly Peart) on this subject I'd like to get them via email. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 18:00:44 CST From: Niki_Leboeuf@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Niki Leboeuf) Subject: MTV calling times Sorry. When I said 7-9, I meant Central, but since there are so many of us and not all in the U.S or Canada either, why not just 7-9pm /wherever/ you are? Then we'll kinda blanket the phone lines /all/day/!! (Or Maybe I'm just a tad bit over enthused.) --The Vortex -- Via DLG Pro v0.995 Niki_Leboeuf@agwbbs.new-orleans.la.us rex!agwbbs!Niki_Leboeuf ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 20:25:29 CST From: Tracey <TMCCART3@UA1VM.UA.EDU> Subject: Ged on the cover of Bass Player Hi, all -- Just saw the new issue of Bass Player, and there 'e is... Got an inter- view and everything. I didn't pick it up, 'tho I probably will. And Juno, you're going to like this one. The pictures are really close up, and he's got a three-day stubble. Looks better than ever, IMHO... Tracey ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik <habbinga@microlab.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Ticken number in AZ and NM Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 19:40:57 MST Hello! Could some kind souls in New Mexico and Arizona send me the phone numbers of Ticketmaster (or whoever the local ticket agent is) for Phoenix and Las Cruces? I'm planning on making the road trip and need to order tickets from afar. Thanks! Erik habbinga@microlab.colorado.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Travis Norsen <tnorsen@osiris.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: ticket stories... Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 18:52:52 -0800 (PST) Hello all--- Here's my ticket buying story: I got up at about six and went to the record store. There were about one hundred people in line, which really sucked, until i found out that they were all waiting for tickets for another show. I ended up being second in line for rush tix!! By the time I bought them (about 15 seconds after 9 o'clock) the "expensive" $40 tickets were already sold out--I ended up getting some nice 10th row $27 ones. (Not Bad!) A friend asked me today if i had any extra, he said he called Ticketmaster at 10:30 (the tickets went on sale at 9) and they were already sold out! Wow. So there it is... Onward and upward with the arts. -ttn ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 19:04:45 PST From: elbel@igate1.hac.com (Jeffrey Park Elbel) Subject: sob story Saturday morning in Los Angeles. I get up, go to the phone, and warm up my dialing finger. I dialed for two solid hours, finally got through, and was told that tickets were sold out! "Not even an individual ticket?!" I asked. Nothing. "Call back next week, they might release some more seats." I called a few hours later, for the sheer joy of it, and the guy who handled the call that time looked in a file and said there were plenty of individual seats - at the back end of the hall in the balcony - and that if I'd called earlier anyone else there could have found much better individual seating for me. *#$%. I was told that my first call was being monitored by the on duty supervisor, meaning I was handled by a trainee. Why didn't the Super intervene? Dagnabbit. Well, if anyone has seats they want to unload, call me! I won't be bitter. Just wanted to get that off my chest. ---------------------------------------------------------------- | Jeff Elbel | Email: elbel@igate1.hac.com | | Farewell to Juliet | P.O. Box 1222 | | ArtForm Management Group | El Segundo, CA 90245-6222 | | Marathon Records | 310-640-3523/310-364-5375 | ---------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: My opinions may not reflect those of my kind employers. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 22:44:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Greg J. Musi <musi+@pitt.edu>" <musi+@pitt.edu> Subject: Lifesons technique on A Show of Hands : WAS RE:RUSH Someone in a previous post admired Lifeson's technique where he played notes and then took his hand off of the guitar during The Big Money on the A Show of Hands video. > >Also, I really like his technique of taking his fingers off the neck after > >playing the notes (I have no idea what guitarists call this) as displayed > > A pull off? Standard technique, if that's what you're talking about.... :) Actually, I am almost 100% sure that the original poster was speaking of the harmonics in the song, as clearly show on the video Instead of fretting the note (pressing the string all the way to fingerboard between the frets) he lightly touches a string directly above a certain fret (not in between) and does not press it down. This technique sounds a bell or chime-like sound some number of octaves higher. Just thought I would give my own insight. later, Greg Greg J. Musi.................................Computing and Information Services Assistant Supervisor.........................Forbes Quadrangle Computing Lab E-Mail : musi+@pitt.edu......................University of Pittsburgh Office : 240 DLH - Phone 648-2348 "And the meek shall inherit the Earth", Neil Peart, Rush ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Nov 93 00:00:45 EST From: Robert Barnhardt <73707.533@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Untied Notes Quick comments I wrote down while reading the last two NMSs. Since I didn't write down the sources, you'll have to figure out what I'm talking about... >...as if you care. >:) --- More likely harmonics, don't you think? Most people wouldn't notice pull-offs, but they would notice Alex's flashy spring-release harmonics (sort of sight-assisted guitar for the near-blind...). >:) --- Great ideas [banquet-type event -> R. Russ's animation -> sculpture]. Sounds like a perfect combination; my only negative comment is that this all sounds a bit... um, intemperate? I think that a donation to a Rush-inspired charity would be an appropriate adjunct to the gift. It would add some sort of 'meaning' to it, if you understand what I'm getting at -- it would make us look like something other than obsessed, lunatic Rushheads, and would do a bit of good in the bargain. (When I say 'donation', read '<modest> donation'.) --- Don't be an ass. [ed.: actually, I wrote this down several times] --- Mark me down for the 3-part sculpture idea; sounds appropriate. See above, if you care (a hearty 'YEAH, RIGHT!' here), for a more specific idea of what I'd like to see. --- All for now; take care, everyone. - Rob Barnhardt, rbarnhardt@delphi.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Nov 93 00:10:00 EST From: "BLUMBERG" <E1304012@apollo.montclair.edu> Subject: Rockumentary? I heard a rumor last year that in Canada there wasa Rush Rockumentary released on one of the Video channels. Anyone know if this is true? Attention Mark S. (Spartacus) of Penn State -> Email me your address. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 00:12:22 Subject: Geddy's High Voice From: ariel@virtue.win.net (Ariel Benzakein) >P.S. Question: Can anyone think of a song where Geddy gets higher than in >Cygnus X-1? (Spinning..whirling..still decending...I can feel my speakers >bending......) "Each of us, a cell of awareness... imperfect and imcompleeeeete..." etc from Freewill may not be as high, but it's still pretty darn high... Ariel ariel@virtue.win.net ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 93 02:41:14 -0500 From: junoks@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Stacey Ksenzakovic) Subject: the Oct 14 interview :^) I just got my tape of that interview, 2112 thanks to Lance for making it. Anyway the first thing I thought was that Geddy's talking voice is like Sebastian Bach's (course Ged sings a zillion times better). It wasn't until two hours later that I remembered SB is also from Ontario. Does anyone else thing Alex sounds like Joel from MST3K? A bit less whiny, but still... And then when they talk together, you know interrupt each other and stuff, they sound like Tom Servo and Crow T. Anyone have any ideas on who Neil sounds like? BTW I LOVE those silly hick acents Ged and Alex slipped into while talking about a country version of CF. How cute! And they did it so well. I can't wait to see their reactions when someone actually DOES that song! Well, they asked for it. Blessed be, Juno (aka Julie Oneida) uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu u "We can move with savage grace to the rhythms u \ / u u of the night" (Force Ten) u ----><---- u u ..._ ._ __ .__. .. ._. .. ... ._.. .. ..._ . u / \ u uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu See, I listen! <avid fan since July 1993> <in diapers till Hemispheres> ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Animation Date: Tue, 23 Nov 93 8:21:16 GMT From: Dominic Binks <binks@compsci.bristol.ac.uk> I think the idea of giving Rush a video/graphics montage like Robert Russ suggests is a brill idea. It fits in with what most people (I would guess) on this list do - i.e. computing. But let's face most of the work that most of do is pretty boring when you start trying to explain and show it to people who aren't experts in it. I'm all for it. Robert - what would you like us to do? ----------- Dominic Binks binks@uk.ac.bristol.compsci Department of Computer Science | University of Bristol | Bristol | BS8 1US ----------- ---------------------------------------------------------- From: br103@city.ac.uk Subject: 1812 in 2112 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 93 9:34:43 GMT Hi from the UK. About where is the 1812 overture in 2112, as I recall Alex plays it towards the end of the `overture` - bit with the gaps where everyone goes `oi!' when they do it live 1812 tune (just a little bit, repeated 4 times, over the same chords as the previous bit) Stops, then riff bit from the start chord / explosions `And the meek...` Hope that helps (if you can make any sense of it!) Favourite Ged bass moment - Time Stand Still - wow, what fills! Cheers, Nick. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 93 12:33 GMT From: "A.J. CUMMINS" <CLGS11@VAXA.STRATHCLYDE.AC.UK> Subject: Dream Theater,SIO Vid.............. Does anyone know if the SIO video has been broadcast in the UK yet ??? I've been taping the Headbangers Ball for the last six weeks and haven't caught it yet. It was this method that I used to get the RTB video last time. Is there anyone out there from the UK that's going to see Dream THeater this week ?? I'm going through to Edinburgh on Sunday (28th) to see 'em. If anyone has seen them so far and can give me a set list please respond via e-mail. TonyC. clgs11@vaxa.strath.ac.uk ---------------------------------------------------------- From: tds@sunset.cse.nau.edu (Toby D. Sanchez) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 07:47:55 -0700 Subject: Animate! Gift Idea! The animation/presentation idea from Robert Russ is killer!!!!! Maybe there could be a way for all of us NMS'ers to participate... by say, sending in some sort of graphic or something? Or is there any other way us non-graphics experts can participate in this project? Later ______________________________________________________________________________ | Toby D. Sanchez | | tds@sunset.cse.nau.edu 71670.2236@compuserve.com FrizelFry@aol.com | | Snail Mail: 1200 S. Riordan Ranch #51 Flagstaff, AZ 86001 | | 43rd Law of Computing: | | Anything that can go wr | | fortune:Segmentation violation -- Core dumped | \______________________________________________________________________________/ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 07:15:33 PST From: Michael_Shepherd.wbst129@xerox.com Subject: Why the sun? I found some definitions in the dictionary that aren't exactly mainstream definitions. Maybe this helps to explain BSAM. (Reach for the) Moon: Something impossible, inaccessible or unknowable. Moon (away): To spend in idle reverie (wander). Lake: To undergo a change. (In the) Sun: Glory, Splendor I think he's talking about how most people reach this idle state in their lives where they stop asking questions or, if they do, don't bother trying to answer them. He emphasizes 'the space between wonder and why' as the excitement in gaining knowledge and understanding (light, heat, and energy). Kind of goes along with Prime Mover from HYF. "From the point of ignition to the final drive, the point of the journey is not to arrive." Our own drives and desires cause us to be our own prime mover, and if we don't act on these desires, we'll never leave the moon and try to get to the sun. Other interpretations? Mike * If the future's looking dark, we're the ones who have to shine * * If there's no one in control, we're the ones to draw the line. * ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 11:13:08 -0400 (EDT) From: BJKRIEGER@MIAVX1.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU Subject: Geddy with a pick? TNMS subscribers: I saw a post in #823 from Dave Bell talking about Geddy using a pick. You may know this already, but in an interview on RTB in Guitar Player Magazine, Geddy talks about how when he was young, he almost had the tip of his middle finger chopped off. The nail grew back extremely tough and durable. He grows out this nail and uses it as a pick on a lot of songs. Just thought you'd like to know! Bye, Better Beer bjkrieger@miavx1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 93 11:28:33 EST From: "R.S. Huffnagle" <huffnagl@minnow.rutgers.edu> Subject: Gift/Nobody's Hero I just wanted to say that Robert Russ's idea about a computer animated gift sounds like an excellent idea. >Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 22:59:23 -0400 (EDT) >From: BJKRIEGER@MIAVX1.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU > >In answer to Dave Whiteman's comment about Nobody's Hero, I believe Peart said >in an interview that his friend had died of AIDS and that was what the songwas >about . Therefore I think the girl died of AIDS too. Somebody can correct me >if I'm wrong, but I think that's the right answer. I read what Neil said about the Nobody's Hero, he didn't say the song was about AIDS. I don't think the song itself has anything to do with AIDS. It is dealing in general with the people who are important in our lives and who is heroes to us. The examples the song gives, like saving a drowning child or landing a cripple airplane, were people who would get recognition, rewards, etc. for what they did. But there are people, like the man in the first verse, who change our lives, teach us things and just generally make us better people who die unrecognized and "Nobody's Hero." So, IMHO Neil is trying to give them credit. I think AIDS is just a coincidence to the song. ****************************************************************************** * Ralph Huffnagle * * Rutgers University-Camden * * huffnagl@clam.rutgers.edu * ****************************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 11/22/93 - The National M From: richard.morey@factory.com (Richard Morey) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 93 12:02:00 RU>From: 56REIMERS@CUA.EDU RU>Subject: sound tracks RU>I'm sorry I can't remeber which post it was, but someone made a remark RU>about how unthinkable it was thatRush might do soundtrack work. I hate RU>to break it to you, but a friend of mine in Austria (Europe), who was the RU>one who introduced me to the group in the first place, told me that he was RU>once watching a movie which had the song "Force Ten" in it. He didn't RU>remember the name of the movie, unfortunately. Anyways, that's my bit. But Rush didn't write Force Ten for this movie.. --- . OLX 2.2 . hindu muslim catholic creation evolutionist ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Nov 1993 09:48:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Gears and iron chains turn the grinding wheel." <DLINKLATER@ewu.edu> Subject: Parody: ***Cold Shower*** Howdy, y'all. I started this with a humorous twist, but it ended up kind of making me think... Parody: ***COLD SHOWER*** Cold Shower It was long after midnight, When we got to necking passionately She said I'm not that kind of girl, Don't get the wrong idea. I said I've got to get my rocks off I haven't screwed in a hundred weeks She said you're outta luck buddy - I won't put out for you. I'm out of here Because you must cool down Right now It was just before sunrise When we started taking off our clothes She said I hope you brought a condom You won't get to far without it. I said if sex has these conditions I don't understand those beer ads She said you ain't Spuds McKenzie You live in fantasy-land I'm out of here Because you must cool down Right now I want you now- The only thing that keeps me sane Is a cold shower I need it bad- My only friend right now Is a cold shower Please, Please, Please, Please- The ache in my nards is assuaged by some time In a cold shower Maybe tomorrow?- I'll make it through, somehow With a cold shower -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Since Rush is Canadian, shouldn't it be "Stick it ooot"? | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: LA Date, Gift, Concert Get Togethers Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 17:06:30 PST From: Will Hartung - Master Rallyeist <villy@uunet.uu.net> My, hasn't this been busy recently. Well, I'm pretty jazzed. Friday night I won a pair of tickets to the Feb. 3 show from KLOS. The seats will probably suck, but they've GOT to be better than what I usually get at the Forum. (Past two tours I've managed to get these wonderful views of the equipment, roadies, cables, lightmen, etc. I haven't seen the back video screen at a Rush concert for 4 YEARS!!!). Anyway, the big hope is that toward the concert date, they'll have a drawing for "Front Row Center" tickets, and I've figured that I had worse odds getting the tickets in the first place compared to what they'll be drawing from (I'm guessing < 30 pairs). So, color me excited, it beats Lotto. Oh yeah, I'm also getting a copy of the CD in "4-6 weeks". oh boy. Just in time for the show. Regarding concert get togethers, I think that will be really cool. The hot tip will be trying to get a crowded group photo from each concert so the picture can be scanned in and put on a file server someplace. That will probably be hard at the Forum because there is no OBVIOUS place to meet, and we can't get a camera inside. But I think that would be really cool. If someone can think of an easy place to meet at the Forum, then send it forward. It will be a lot easier when they come back in late spring at Irvine Meadows (then we can have a NMS tail gate party). I didn't see the original gift idea, but here is something that is pretty doable. How about getting a charicature of the band. You know, those drawings of people where the heads are big and such -- like editorial cartoons? Several artists can do a decent job, we've got ample photos and such for them to work on. Maybe they can integrate something from each album or somesuch. Anyway, it can be drawn or even painted. I think they look cool, they're usually pretty funny. Anyway, 2 cents there. Has Rush been on Rockline yet? I heard the Album Introduction, but I don't listen to KLSX here enough to know who's going to be on Rockline, so if they haven't, could the RushMgr think to put it into his Administrivia if he finds out? (That's about the only part I get to read anymore). Oh yeah, and speaking of Rockline, I think that someone somewhere should be able to get on with a question, and slyly mention NMS in their question. And, when they come to LA, any thought on getting an NMS T-Shirt (or 3) to the Band? Or at least San Diego since SD is the famed origin of said legendary T-Shirt. Concert Rule 3B(c) : If you've got the shirt, you've got to wear it! Later, Will (vfr750@netcom.com) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: mathezer@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Stephen Mathezer) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 10:53:03 -0700 Subject: Tour dates in Western Canada ? Does anyone have any idea if and when Rush will be in Western Canada? Will they only be playing Vancouver, or will they visit some of the other cities like Calgary which they missed on the last tour ? Thanks -Steve ---------------------------------------------------------- From: duslan@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Dan Uslan) Subject: The Story of Kings Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 10:37:03 -40962758 (PST) I'm sure this has already been covered on here, but I've only been subscribed for a few weeks. What is "The Story of Kings?" I saw a copy in Music+ the other day, but didn't have 13 bucks on me. Is the interview any good? Who is it with? -->Would you recommend getting it? [ It's an interview done with Alex and an unknown interviewer in a coffee shop (or so it sounds), and about 30 min long. The full transcription can be found on syrinx, either gopher (in Interview Transcriptions) or ftp (in rush/special). : rush-mgr ] In other misc. news, I got THIRD ROW to the San Diego show. . .Geddy will be sweating on ME ;-) --catch the spit, eh? Don't ask me how. My friend was second in line. Dan --still not giving in to security under pressure (No cool sig) ----------------------------------------------------------
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