The National Midnight Star #805

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Confirmation of the Thriller/VP similarity Halloween Counterparts Costumes all this conjecture Neil and college applications Frank Zappa sticks out his thing Rush Survey Ged using a pick Losing It vs. Nobody's Hero impossible set-list Counterparts and tab music Some Replys to TMNS #804 The Usual Insanity A lurker posts... Death does not a hero make. Are They Counterparts Tour (Mishaps?) CP Review in Dayton Daily News Counterparts Back cover art, phrases, and live material. John Webster and Peter Collins (none) Re: 11/01/93 - The National Midnight Star #804 Unusual RTB Tour Memories _COUNTERPARTS_...A couple of questions... Why CP is as good if not better than MP or PeW Seal of Solomon? No. Reply to Joseph Alan Cerro Symphonic Music of Yes Liner notes interpretation RTB rap ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue Nov 2 19:55:18 EST 1993 From: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu <The National Midnight Star Editor> Subject: Administrivia Ok, just some standard stuff, if you're going to be away for a while you might want to unsubscribe and then re-subscribe when you get back, I get bounces a lot of times from people, who's mailboxes fill up! Some "official" news on the tour. It will start in Florida, but according to a very good source, they say there are still "NO confirmed dates" as yet just that there are some holds on buildings, and certain arenas. The band is supposedly meeting this week/next week to discuss routing, production, dates, etc.. As far as an opener for this tour, I'm told that King's X may go out on some dates, personally I think they might go out for the whole tour, seeing as the new King's X will be released around January when the tour starts up. And Finally, for those wondering about the Pye credits on the CD, they are correct in the booklet, and I'm told the radio special was incorrect for crediting the wrong song to Pye. So it's the booklet that's right folks! :rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1993 09:02:13 -0400 (EDT) From: RBARNHARDT@delphi.com Subject: justabandjustabandjustaband.... ARRR! Hello, fellow Rushers and (New?) Rushelles. I'm in the midst of the frustrating and chronologically costly process of moving all of my Internet mailings over to Delphi, where my account is, from all appearances, under intense scrutiny. With my feed worn thistle-thin and weak as a wet slice of Wonder bread, it seems like the perfect opportunity to make my initial contribution... I probably won't have to read it again. >:) Hmf. Well, I'll just jump right in and see what bites. Couterparts Critique: --------------------- Animate: The song that I was slowest to appreciate. Off to a great start with the count-in and crisp percussion. Bass played w/pick? Well, it does sound like it, but I don't want to get into +that+. SIO : Groove supreme. Energetic solo that's just too damn short. >:) Cut : A great song; driving, crunching, thumping, wrenching. Lightning To : solo in exactly the right place. I don't enjoy the speaker-to- The : speaker swish; then again, I've always been binaurally challenged. Chase : (And... it's radio-friendly.) N. : Excellent, well-constructed song. Odd, mid-tempo. I shiver Hero : when I hear Alex's absolutely spiritual soloage in the breaks. Fine demonstration of proper keyboard usage: -atmosphere-. The lyrics are fine by me, although I'm especially aware of the infamous first line when others are listening to the song. Why? Well, people seem to think it's a gay love song, which isn't an inherently BAD thing, but it's the simple fact that they don't get it that makes me cringe... which is really nothing new, is it? BSAM : An atypically light, fun song! Perfect guitar sound; Tragically Hip-ish. Acoustic or clean electric fills it out very nicely. Alien : Alternating atmospheric, ominous guitar with CTTC's driving sound Shore : for the chorus works well. If someone doesn't find out what the intro 'vocal' and background reversed-and-phased-sounding vocals during the solo are, I'm going to go insane trying. The : I'm afraid I don't like this song. Neil's astronomically cosmic Speed : love metaphor doesn't work for me; it was stretched far enough Of : in Chain Lightning, IMO. Lazy-sounding tune. I don't think much Love : of Geddy's vocal work, and the guitar-solo-that's-just-the-vocal- melody-and-barely-there-anyway contribute to my dislike. There +is+ some great Alexwork in this song, but it's buried. <^ IMHO! Double : Love it! 2112-finale-ish! Moody, ominous lyrics & delivery. Agent : Wall-shaking locked-bass-and-guitar theme, complemented by that screeching, aneurysm-bursting solo (complete with hackle-raising harmonic slide [rake?]). Leave : Jazz-fusion? A great instrumental, with "Sailor's Hornpipe"- That : inspired solo. Master of feedback! Definition of a "haunting" Thing : theme. Plywood cameo? Better than WMT by about six furlongs; Alone! : maybe better than tired old YYZ, IM_V_HO. Cold : Great lyrics in the verses, but the chorus (... is a cold fire) is Fire : pretty weak. Do I have the chorus and bridge reversed? Probably. A great solo that might not belong in this song... E. : God... this song really involves me, like Time Stand Still and Glory : Middletown Dreams did. Alex's backing in the verses just tears my heart out; perfect! Great use of that bright, filling acoustic. Perfect solo, perfect solo exeunt, and perfect climax to this song; Geddy's into it. We leave with that beautiful theme fading into tape hiss as I tingle and smile for ten minutes after... >...until the little Sony clicks over to the other side, where I've recorded this incredible album all over again, for my eternal listening pleasure. Re: Percussive Comments ----------------------- I don't know if it's the mixing, miking, or the kit itself, but this is three-point-one-four-one-five-nine-two times better than the drum sound on recent albums. I don't know what he was doing on Presto and RTB... sounded like he was playing Hanes XL underwear, stretched over tin pie plates full of thick gravy and pasty mashed potatoes. Um, I really disliked that sound. >:) I've read some complaints about Neil's not-so-complex drumming on Counterparts. It seems to me as though he's moving away from gymnastics, and taking a more careful, strategic approach. Think of Nick Mason: he has never played with the sheer physical skill that Neil has, but his work is often just as effective. You'll just have to get used to listening to subtleties instead of soliloquies. Well, that's all for now. It did turn out a bit long, and I hope you'll accept my apology for whatever it's caused or cost you. Until the next, take care. - Robert Barnhardt, 73707.533@compuserve.com if it's soon to expire, rbarnhardt@delphi.com if it's full of preservatives. ============================================================================= unparalleled - technician tm unappreciated - guitarist Mix-and-Match Personality hopeless - drummer wannabe - composer Who shall I be today? promising - programmer frustrated - writer ============================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 31 Oct 93 23:54:46 -0500 From: junoks@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Stacey Ksenzakovic) Subject: set list and Cp pairs I can't seem to find my list of stuff to say now, so I'm only going to say what's in the subject. But.. in reverse order. I also noticed the "happy&gay straight&narrow" and even the "hell fire" But did anyone notice "serch&destroy fear&loathing" or... this is a bit [not obscure, um..] odd and probably unintended, but... "duck&cover dick&jane" Sorry. I know where MY mind is... Anyway, here's my guesses. In the Mood (I want to hear it just for subject matter) By-Tor and the Snow Dog I Think I'm Going Bald (much more appropriate now) anything off 2112 will do Cygnus X-1 (BTW I just listened to it in a weird mood and those sound blasts during TB's talking can be really terrifying) The Trees Natural Science Tom Sawyer and more Subdivisions Red Sector A Mystic Rhythms Time Stand Still Show Don't Tell and more RTB and Dreamline Animate, CttC with Ged and Alex headbanging, and Double Agent but Alex has to sing the harmony or it will be song murder and an instrumental medley One more thing. DO NOT COMPARE GEDDY TO WORF. Are you trying to kill me? Sigh. Deanna Troy, maybe, but NOT WORF. Thank you. Blessed be, Juno (aka Julie and Panacea) Member, Society of People Who Would Love to See Rush Limbaugh Lose All His Money and Become Dependent Upon the Meager Beneficence of the Welfare State. 8^) or :^) """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" " I am made from the dust of stars, and the oceans " \ / " " flow in my veins. (Presto) " ----><---- " " ._.. ___ ..._ . ._.. .. ..._ . ... ___ _. " / \ " """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 30 Oct 93 18:49:00 -0500 From: USR3438A@cbos.uc.edu Subject: CTTC After listening and loving Cp, I came across an article about Mr. Chevy Chase. The name of the article was: Cut, too, the Chase I could not resist - CP was inserted and cranked up accordingly. This is an excellent piece of material. Can't stop - moving........NP Glen ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 93 08:39:53 -0500 From: gridley@fim10.fim.wpafb.af.mil (Skip Gridley) Subject: Eerie Rush Driving Story Hey All, Given the time of year, I would have chalked up the following to some sort of Halloween madness, but since weird stuff like this happens to me all the time, it just can't be a coincidence. Anyway, here's my story. I was driving home from work last Thursday, I noticed a little yellow Geo car of some type in the right lane ahead had three bumper stickers. I only remember two of them. They were: --------------------------- ----------------------- | My other car is a broom | | Goddess Be With You | --------------------------- ----------------------- ^ I'm not 100% sure on this one, but I know it said Goddess, at least Anyway, with all the recent discussions on this list, I at least knew some of what these stickers represented. Where's the Rush content of this post?!? Well, as I got up beside the car, there was another sticker in the driver's side rear window. It was a small square one, with man/red star from 2112, with the usual "Rush" at the bottom. A mile down the road I got off at my exit and Cold Fire came on the radio... It was actually kind of eerie. As far as tour songs go, I'd actually like to see B,B,B from FBN instead of By-Tor. Yes, I know it's on ESL, but I'd love to see/hear it cranked out live. Give me Vital Signs, Losing It, Nobody's Hero, Natural Science and both parts of Cygnus X-1. For instrumentals, how 'bout YYZ, LTTA, WMT w/drum solo. Double Agent with LVS (all of it) stuck in the middle would be most cool. Bound up and wound up so tight... Skip Gridley gridley@fim.wpafb.af.mil ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 93 10:12:02 EST From: ahung@discover.wright.edu (The Omega Concern) Subject: Guitar group forming.... hey all, I have formed a mailing group for the discussion of guitars and players. You need not play to join or anything. You just have to like listening to and discussing guitars. This should be a great chance to get exposed to new players. I'm currently doing the digest manually. I have a neat digest manager program that I can't quite figure out how to set up. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mail your adds to me at the address below. Remember, I am but a human. Please treat me as such (not like a damn machine). Adds may take a few days. Sorry for the non-Rush content. BTW, we do have some Rush fans in the group already. Art ****************************************************** I am: Art or ahung@discover.wright.edu "There is a fine line between love and illusion - a fine place to penetrate the gap between wishes and fact, the lens between wishes and fact" -Neil Peart of Rush ****************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 93 08:25:53 PST From: rking@scopus.com (Robyn King-Nitschke) Subject: Probably irrelevant, but interesting... Hi, I was reading the paper this weekend and saw an article about how a famous AIDS activist, who had run for some sort of public office (I forget in which state) had died of AIDS sometime last week. His name: "Absolutely Nobody." Apparently he'd changed his name legally so he could point out the uselessness of whatever office he was running for: Absolutely Nobody got 7% of the vote... Anyway, since I need to get a life, I thought it was kind of interesting that this AIDS activist was named Nobody...I wonder if Neil had ever heard of him. Nobody's Hero? Probably not... We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion of how many 1's and 0's can dance on the head of a pin... :-) Later, --Rat ORQ: Where would you rather be? Anywhere but here... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 12:14:05 EST From: "Geeslin, Will" <geeslinw@uklans.uky.edu> Subject: Confirmation of the Thriller/VP similarity A girlfriend of mine and I were laying in bed last night and I was forcing her to listen to Rush. (She is relatively neutral on them, being a fanatical Danzig fan). DA came on and she said,"Hey, that sounds like Thriller, where Vincent Price does the spoken part" I'm too close to Rush to notice the similarity (or maybe too far from Michael Jackson), but this settles the matter for me. Oh well. "Bille Jean is not my lover..." Will Geeslin geeslinw@uklans.uky.edu geeslin@mik.uky.edu University of Kentucky ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Schiller <chris@cdc.hp.com> Subject: Halloween Counterparts Costumes Date: Mon, 1 Nov 93 9:52:24 PST OK RushFans(tm) beat this one. My girlfriend and I went to a Halloween party as the cover of Counterparts! We constructed a hexagonal shaped 2 foot diameter hat like thing for me and wrapped a long piece of duct tape around me to simulate the threads of the bolt. We made a 3 foot diameter haxagonal "nut" with a hole in it for my girlfriend, which she wore at about waist level. We even included a dashed duct tape line down her torso. We arrived to critical acclaim at a party full of the same old devils, witches, and draculas. OK, so it wasn't scary, but people did not miss the sexual connotations. Match the comments to the commentator if we were to have arrived at a hypothetical Rush Halloween party: "Very, um, original" Neil "Could you please leave?" Alex "Get a life!" John "At least they're not wearing kimonos" Geddy Chris ________________________________________________________________ Chris Schiller chris@cdc.hp.com Hewlett-Packard ICBD/BBU (415) 857-2686 ________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: ma168fae@sdcc14.UCSD.EDU (Chris Cameron) Subject: all this conjecture Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 12:56:04 -0800 (PST) While catching up on the back issues, I have noticed many differing opinions about issues that I never considered as having more than one interpretation. While this is good since it expands the amount of Rush propaganda I get exposed to :), there are some things which give me that little nervous twitch I get when I read something that (IMHO) defies common sense. Is there anyone else out there (the silent majority?) that thinks any or all of the following ideas simply make the most sense, given what we all know about Rush and their music? : (in no particular order) -"Gangster of Boats" is a _joke_. There is no "Gangster of Boats" 'triliogy', and there never will be. They added that in there because they have a sense of humor about their history of writing "rock operas" and epic songs and the like, and they thought their fans could get a chuckle out of it. That "WMT?" is Part _4_ should be the tip-off right away. This is not to say that "LTTA" shouldn't be compared to or doesn't relate to "WMT?", just that it doesn't have to involve the "GOB" 'trilogy'; rather, the two songs relate because (again, IMHO :) "LTTA" is probably a sort of response, or reaction, to "WMT?", possibly trying to be a step in the other direction (hence, "Leave that Thing Alone") and exploration of different sides of Rush instrumental music. (Less catchy? More challenging?) -The "one chromosome" difference exists between males and females, not between whites and blacks. As far as I know, whites and blacks are two different races, but that doesn't mean they differ by a chromosome. This is not to say that _Cp_ doesn't address the white/black issue (perhaps simply by intentional omission...), just that the more popular interpretation of "differening by one chromosome" would mean male/female; whites/blacks certainly have different genetic material which determines their race, but they don't differ by a chromosome, per se. -The binary code doesn't mean anything, except, possibly, "DDD" (that's one conjecture that I'd have to agree with =) -"Nobody's Hero" is not about homosexuality, per se. It just uses one as an example. (I'm gonna leave the "homophobia" stuff out of this) Objectively, I'd have to say that it's possible that people are repelled by the song because Neil starts out the lyrics with "sexuality", etc. That doesn't mean they are "homophobic". Heck, I gave a pretty big wince when i heard Geddy mouth the word "sex-u-a-li-ty". It's just something I'm not used to... (side note: does "homophobic" really mean "fear of gays"? I would interpret it as "fear of homos", where "homos" is not really a Latin root but a modern slang term for gays, in which case, whoever thought up the word doesn't seem very smart to me.) For those who don't know (just to further baseball literacy, something Rush would agree with), Tinker to Evers to Chance was the most famous double-play combination in baseball. But I do indeed believe they achieved that fame based on their inclusion in a poem. one more common sense thing: -the following lyric does NOT suck. It sounds pretty darn cool (what more do you want? :-) Chris Cameron "Ahh yes to yes to ahh ahh to yes" -Rush ---------------------------------------------------------- From: joeray@aol.com Date: Mon, 01 Nov 93 15:49:18 EST Subject: Neil and college applications Since most of the people on this list are currently attending college, I was wondering if any of you used any Rush lyrics as the basis for a meaningful quote, influence in life, etc. essay. I was thinking of using the "When I leave..." lines from The Analog Kid, but I'm not sure. Since I am about to begin my essays, any input would be appreciated. Also, since most of you are already in college, please e-mail me (joeray@aol.com) any responses or suggestions you have. Thanks. In addition, my thoughts on CP: whether you like the album or not, we can all agree that CP is without a doubt the most recent Rush studio album since RTB. joeray@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 93 16:11:55 -0500 From: junoks@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Stacey Ksenzakovic) Subject: Frank Zappa sticks out his thing The subject actually has very little to do with this letter. It was on my list of things to say and I can't remember what it means. Well, I've got the list now, so here goes... 1) How do you pronounce Zivojinovich[Alex's last name]? 2) Please, don'e compare Geddy to Jim Morrison [whoever did]. Jim was a baritone. Ged can't sing that low. They are both good in different ways [and of course we know who's better] :^) 3) A warning: If you ever play p/g for someone, make sure it's reasonably loud, or they won't like it. I listened on low volume while talking to a friend, and even the songs I know I love sounded lame. 4) "le demain monde" monde= world, demain= tomorrow. I'm clueless on the grammer, though. 5) "when Geddy and Alex mimic e/o, I forget the term" That would be unison, I think. 6) Someone mentioned "Jet City Woman." Is it just me, or does the city in that video look a lot like Toronto? I can see the CN tower or something like it. 7) I thought that red thing on the Cp watch looked like a drop if blood. Someone said a ladybug. Can we get someone with a magnifying glass to check it out? 8) A FEW THOUGHTS ON THE BINARY I notiuced from observations on here thatthe string of 101etc is different on the cassette and CD. This might suggest that it is meaningless. However I haven't gotten around to comparing to see if the 43 digits on the cass are part of the lines of 61 on the CD. A friend suggested that the code is actually all one number in binary, however I don't have the necessary equipment/knowledge to translate it into base 10. Also there are seeral possible ways to look at it so if someone with free time and immense curiosity could check them all out... 9) I lent Cp to my psych teacher because of Animate and the liner art. She loves it, but has not commented on the lyrics yet... 10) In math class we were discussing combining functions ie f(x), in such ways as (f+g)(x), (g-f)(x), (fg)(x), (f/g)(x), and naturally I could not help thinking (p/g)(x)! :^) 11) I'm still trying to figure out the voices in AS. I'm sure it' all Geddy. One line sounds like "so many doorways." Another sounds like "yes, yes" or something, but then this is from the person who thinks it's almost worth the $8 just to hear Geddy say "ah, yes to yes." [and that person who said it sounds orgasmic... read on] 12) I'm not going to comment on "masturbate me," as I'm sure you all know what I'm thinking. However, on the "circumcise me" line-- Seeing as how Ged's parents are Jewish, I'm sure he's already circumcised. 13) To the guy who transcribed the Chretien interview: We have a Natural Law party too, but I don't know if they're into meditation. The only advertising they can afford is billboards in small cities. 14) Our boys? SEXIST?? Nah. No sarcasm here. Actually I think they are giving women a higher level of importance with Animate especially. The only girl ever on a cover had her skirt blown up to her waist so whatever they might do now can't be worse. It seems Alex is a bit of a flirt anyway, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Please, no speculation on my personal view this time. 15) I think eMpTyV [sorry to whoever I stole that from] is a little too UScentric to ever give Rush proper recognition. But about an awards ceremony on TV, maybe we should try to have it on both channels like the Queen concert of April 1992. MuchMusic could show it live like they did then, and MTV could record and edit it, like they did then. That way everyone could see it in one form or another, and those unfortunate enough not to have either channel could buy a copy from someone. 16) One last thing-- There's this girl in my hall who always plays music too loud. Last week she was playing <gasp, choke> DANCE MUSIC. I had to fight back. I went to my roo, popped Hemishperes into my little portable dual cassette dec, and cranked it up. I scared a few people away with La Villa. One side effect, however: I can no longer hear the word "monsters" without having that melody pop into my head. A small price to pay, if it's even a price. Well, th-th-th-that's all for now folks. See you tomorrow when I submit award-winning[NOT] plans for the Animate video. Blessed be, Juno (aka Julie and Panacea) Member, Society of People Who Would Love to See Rush Limbaugh Lose All His Money and Become Dependent Upon the Meager Beneficence of the Welfare State. 8^) or :^) """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" " I am made from the dust of stars, and the oceans " \ / " " flow in my veins. (Presto) " ----><---- " " ._.. ___ ..._ . ._.. .. ..._ . ... ___ _. " / \ " """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 16:24:20 -0500 From: ahs4@cornell.edu (Nellie) Subject: Rush Survey Howdy, folks! As promised, I have compiled the responses to my NMS Rush survey asking what your favorite CP song is. And, from 106 votes, I proudly display the results: #1 Double Agent 28.3% #2 Between Sun and Moon 16.9% #3 Animate 15.1% #4 Tie Cut to The Chase 11.3% #4 Tie Leave That Thing Alone 11.3% #6 Cold Fire 7.5% #7 Nobody's Hero 3.8% #8 Tie Everyday Glory 1.9% #8 Tie Alien Shore 1.9% #8 Tie Stick it Out 1.9% #666 Speed of Love 0.0% I was also privy to a swarm of comments from those who participated in the survey. First, the nearly unanimous consensus was that Stick it Out was for image, not appeal, and was a terrible choice for the first single. Most suggested BSAM and Animate as better singles to release first, even those who voted for Double Agent. It is easy to see why Double Agent fared so well. Though not my choice (I chose BSAM), it clearly is a throwback to older Rush, and therefore, has the most appeal. In addition, I also recieved some wonderful notes from some of the survey participants. One note was from a Yale Student who could not spell any words correctly that were longer than two syllables. Another one misinterpreted my mailing on the NMS and gave me a 20K, six page essay critiquing each song, replete with a full scoring system. The funniest note goes to Panacea (who, coincidentally, is probably is reading this letter), who apparently is one of Geddy's BIGGEST fans. She changed the lyrics to Animate to: C'mon Geddy, Elevate Me Animate Me Penetrate Me, And asked Geddy to Stick it Out for her. Who knows, Panacea, who knows... Anyway, thanks for all those who participated. You loser at Yale, you still are a grub. Panacea, I can be Geddy if you want to, and all Rush Fans, Rush On!!! ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Ged using a pick Date: Mon, 01 Nov 93 16:50:23 -0500 From: "Virtual Unreality" <ddmodell@mailbox.syr.edu> As far as I know Geddy doesn't usually use a pick. I remember in an interview with Guitar Player (?) magazine he said that he almost had his middle finger on his right hand chopped off when he was a child...and when the nail grew back it was much stronger. It doesn't break if he uses it as a pick. Interesting tidbit of Rush trivia. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 93 17:36:34 EST From: ba02498@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Arthur Treacher) Subject: Losing It vs. Nobody's Hero These two songs strike me as very similar in their approach, each with there respective commentary (losing touch with ones gift and heroism/role model). Each provides two examples of people to whom Neil associates the theme of each respective song. I would like to say, however, that Losing It definitely comes across better lyrically than Nodody's Hero. There is more imagery being generated by Losing It (IMHO), and the words flow much more gracefully then those of Nobody's Hero. Just reading the first couple lines of each, I think illustrates the point... "The dancer slows her frantic pace and pain and desperation," "Her aching limbs and downcast face Aglow with perspiration" vs. "I knew he was different in his sexuality" "I went to his parties as a straight minority" I just don't get as vivid a mental picture from NH. Both are fantastic songs that Geddy manages to sing with genuine feeling (IMHO), and its probably unfair to compare something to what I think is one of their all time greats (and most unsung - pun intended) - that being Losing It. Later... Art (imitating life) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 93 16:33:29 -0600 From: Jeremy Todd Strzynski <jtstrzyn@lime.wustl.edu> Subject: impossible set-list sorry to make long NMS's even longer, but right now it's either waste your time or write a paper. someone recently posted a set list which included Mindcrime, Roundabout, and Gimme Some Lovin (gimme gimme some lovin). problem with that set list was that it contained Rush songs. how about Rush doing an entire show with nothing but covers? they could call it Ugly Kid Rush. here goes: Big Bottom, As Time Goes By (at least one of them is a sucker for old movies), No Sugar Tonight-->I Shot The Sheriff, Tangled Up In Blue (we all know Bob Dylan has written EVERY song), Fur Elise (the third section is pure heavy metal), Linus and Lucy (aka The Charlie Brown Theme Song)-->The Ballad of the Green Berets-->Red Hooded Sweatshirt, Every Sperm Is Sacred (sung by Alex), Drum Solo (from _Abbey Road_), the _Animaniacs_ theme song (Geddy is Yakko, Neil is Wakko, and Alex is Dot), Take Me Out To The Ballgame, Captain Spalding. encore: The Ring of the Nibelung. anybody else have suggestions for covers? make them interesting, because Rush will never play a cover for a million years. for the next ten years or so because it might compromise their integrity, for the next forty or so years because they'll be old and retired, and after that because they'll be dead. jeremy, with mint frosting [ Are you a cellulose peptide cake? :-) : rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Lord Dispater <mumjm02@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> Subject: Counterparts and tab music Date: Mon, 1 Nov 93 20:25:27 CST Greets, Rush fans. Well, I'm going to skip the reviews of Counterparts, as it has been done before, a good many times over. :) But one thing I did want to know about is if there are any tab-translations of anything from Counterparts available anywhere. I didn't see any at Syrinx, or at Animal Farm, an anonymous ftp site that has these kinds of things. I did see a great many songs at Animal Farm that aren't at Syrinx, though. I will be happy to download them if the Rush Manager will only tell me how. One other thing I'd like to say, regarding my purchase of Counterparts: I went in at about 4:30 that Tuesday. I asked for a CD, and they told me that they were out. So, desperately craving Rush, I asked for a tape. Well, I got lucky. I bought the store's _last_ copy of the tape. Later that week I called to see if they had any more copies so I could give it to my friend for her birthday, and they _still_ hadn't gotten anymore copies! UPS had mixed up the order, so the store couldn't get them until at least ten o'clock the next morning. Looks like I got really lucky in finding my copy. Later, all. Rush, Dream Theater, Queensryche. Who could ask for more from life? Michael J. Miller, mumjm02@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 93 22:40:51 -0500 From: PAUL ZEEMAN <zeeman@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Subject: Some Replys to TMNS #804 Hi all you Rushfans(tm)! This is my first letter to TNMS, but I've been an avid reader for about 3 weeks now. I LOVE IT! OK, a couple of you guys wanted some info from our past Rush experiences, so here goes! How I got into Rush: We just got MuchMusic as part of Basic Cable in London, and they were playing Show Don't Tell an awful lot. I was, at that point, really into Gowan and Level 42 (hey, gimmie a break! I was a naieve 15 year old) and was looking for some music that was very bass centred (Mark King was, and still is, one of my favourite bass players, but that's another thread) and this Canadian(yeah!) band sounded cool. So I bought Presto and listened to it coninuously for 6 months, getting used to the Gedster's voice (Hey, let's face it. That IS still an obstacle for new Rush fans) I then bought (scratch that) I asked a DJ friend of mine about other good Rush albums and he replied "You can't go wrong with A Show Of Hands" and he was right. I slowly built my collection over the next two years, and now here we are! Hey this is of interest. About half an hour ago, at the beginning of a "30 minute Rock Block" on our Classic Rock station up here, they played SIO. The DJ, (I think) just advertised NMS, the volume was too low to be sure. Congrats! Rush Concert Mishaps: The only Rush show I've ever been to was the first one on the RTB tour in Hamilton ON. There were a few mistakes: 1) Alex played a repeated part at the beginning of Time Stand Still one bar too long. The film on the screen behind them was then one bar ahead for the whole thing. 2) Alex didn't get his acoustic out on stage in time for CTTH. It sounded pretty bad in harsh electric. 3) Ged messed up the last verse of The Big Money. I was probably the only one to notice it though. (Aside for Ged, who grimaced after the mistake. Yes I was that close. 19th row!) All right, this letter is just TOO long, so I'll read y'all later! "That is the secret. If there is one" -NP Counterparts Press Release. Paul Zeeman ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1993 22:31:47 -0500 (CDT) From: BEEZUS@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu Subject: The Usual Insanity The "RTB" Rap ------------- Mr. Dorgon, of the electronic abyss America Online: Neil has said in one of the "It's a Rap" interviews that appear on "RTB" CD singles that Geddy did, in fact, perform that infamous 'rap-thing.' He mentions that Mr. Lee's 'treated' vocalization seemed to fit perfectly. Rush considered Robbie Robertson, an unnamed female vocalist, and even John Cleese to perform the rap, but ultimately decided on Geddy's altered vocal stylings. Ed Blonksi: Yes, you are correct that Rush is usually snubbed in the music press. No, I don't consider Rolling Stone and an E! television show as *any* sort of press. What just gets me is that Rush is in a minority of music groups/artists that has persevered for as long as it has without compromising its musical integrity, or succumbed to the 'pressures' of the same music press we're talking about. For David Adelson to remark that "...some people still can stand the sound of Geddy Lee's voice" shows me that he hasn't heard a Rush album since "All the World's a Stage." Geddy hasn't sounded like "Donald-Duck- on-helium" since those days, and it's pure ignorance shinin' through when the guy makes an absurd comment like that. Jesus, he might have well said, "...some people still can stand the scarves and platform shoes that Rush wears" for any sort of disconcernable difference I might've been able to make in his 'journalistic' talents. To all: The video for "Stick It Out" is supposed to debut some time on MTV this week. This is from the mouth of an Atlantic representative I spoke with today. DO NOT HOLD ME RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VALIDITY OF THIS INFORMATION. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 13:48:25 +0900 From: andy@pic.melco.co.jp (Andrew McCown) Subject: A lurker posts... Howdy All... I've just been lurking here for a good long while, and finally "saw" something I could say that I hadn't seen said yet, and so be able to bore a few more of you :-). To get to the point, in the last NMS when Vernon Harmon was going through the complete list of picture-phrase matches, he writes >(4,3) question & answer, straight & gay (could be a pink triangle) (NO! I am not going to say a thing about the straight & gay) How about, instead of, or as well as, question & answer, you could say... wonder & why (! and ?) and get a direct tie-in to lyrics. :-) On another tangent, I envy all of you who will be going to see the tour next year. I'm very jealous. Living here in Japan, I just don't think there is any chance they'll plan to stop here :-( So, for those of us who don't get to see the western media, keep those reviews coming - they're fun to read (esp. the really ignorant ones), and I look forward to at least getting to read about the concert from y'all. Andy "And if the music stops, there's only the sound of the rain, all the hope and glory, all the sacrifice in vain..." -Rush ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 93 22:03:29 PST From: trumpet@CSOS.ORST.EDU (David Novak) Subject: Death does not a hero make. In response to James Brian's comment/question about who is leaving for the door in Coldfire, I think Neil meant it to be general so it could hit everyone from their own perspective. [Though my lawyer strongly advises against me expressing which way I took the line :( ] Regarding dove@shaply.colorado.edu's and pevans@sanjaun.vic.ca's comments/response, I agree with dickermn@hpcugsya.cup.hp.com's analysis. I think that Neil is flaming the news media and others for making heroes out of people who really haven't done anything heroic. Just because someone died of something which is a major issue of today, does not make them a hero. It is unfortunate that they died, but they are no more a hero than someone dying of cancer. Other circumstances within their lives might have made that person a roll model or even a hero, but their death alone does not make them a hero. ******************************************************************** David Novak Nothing changes faster than the speed of love. trumpet@csos.orst.edu - N.P. ******************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 08:40:01 GMT From: J.Screaton@sheffield.ac.uk (James Screaton) Subject: Are They Counterparts Hi All Just an idea. Are the pictures in the liner notes references or Counterparts to the songs on the Album. What gave me the idea was the X & Y chromosomes refer to "strangers by one chromosome" in Alien Shore. Also could the Hare & the Tortoise refer to "Stick it Out", as in the Tortoise sticking it out an winning. So do all the other pictures refer to something? This may be a new thread to follow up. Has anyone else got any other ideas. Virgin 1215 (UK) is giving Nobody's Hero a lot of airplay. I've heard it 3 times now in as many days. Maybe they'll release it as the first single ( Rush as a Christmas No 1 - Oh Nooo!) I also saw an advert for the album in a magazine (sorry, can't remember which one, but it was on the back cover if that helps!) which was a continuation of the liner notes. Yup, more counterpart pictures. I didn't really have time to look at it properly, but one of the pictures was of Cary Grant. Thats all folks James ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Tour (Mishaps?) From: richard.morey@factory.com (Richard Morey) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 00:14:00 In response to someone asking about tour mishaps.. When I saw Rush on the RTB tour at Nassau Colleseum some guy jumped on to the stage from the right, ran to the middle of the stage and then jumped into the audience.. Later in the show Alex had a nerf gun and was shotting missles at Geddy and then he and Alex picked up the little nerf missles and threw them at Neil. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 02 Nov 93 07:43:13 EST From: CHRIS HAAKER <73023.2326@CompuServe.COM> Subject: CP Review in Dayton Daily News Rush takes a giant step backwards on Counterparts, eschewing the heavy synthesizers of its later albums in favor of the intricate and empathic gutiar, bass and drum interplay that established the canadian rock trio as a progressive rock powerhouse. The result is Rush's strongest effort since 1981's Moving Pictures, combining tuneful accessability with a thicker rhythmic emphasis and sharper musical edge. In a word, Counterparts rocks. Like it's predecessors, the band's 19th album follows a loose lyrical theme relating to the title, illustrated with a series of photos that recall Pink Floyd's A Nice Pair. Double Agent, for example, deals with "the choice between darkness and light." But while one listens to Rush expecting to be dazzled by technical proficiency and tricky time signatures - which the instramental Leave That Thiing Alone delivers - one rarely expects to be moved. Nobody's Hero however, addresses the loss of a friend to AIDS with sincere anguish, and standouts The Speed of Love, Cold Fire and Everyday People delve into previously uncharted emotional depths. Counterparts, to borrow an old Rush title, is closer to the heart. Dave Larsen 31/2 stars. Friday October 29 1993 Enjoy! Trevor We will pay the price but we will not count the cost ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 08:15:36 EST From: ba02498@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Arthur Treacher) Subject: Counterparts > >From: tvos@umcc.umich.edu (David A Warner) > *** Pure As Another's Desire, Even As A Murder's Dream!! *** Great line, but if its supposed to be a quote from the album, shouldn't it read... "Pure as a lover's desire/Evil as a murderer's dream" And from dorgon@aol.com... > I hate to start an old argument, and I heard the Rockline interview, and I've > read the FAQ list, but I just don't believ that Geddy did the rap. Until I > get my WayBack machine from Mr. Peabody and we go back to the recording of > RTB, I'm going to believe that Neil or Alex (or Rupert Hine??) did that rap. > It JUST DOESN'T SOUND LIKE GEDDY!! Of course it doesn't sound like Geddy, that's the beauty of it. Ever hear of technology? Anyway, I remember someone on this digest along while back who said they had access to lots of cool sound equipment, including something called a harmonizer, and that if you play around with it with that section of RTB, you can make it sound like Geddy. Than again, with all the modern sound equipment you could probably make a Ronald Reagan speech sound like Geddy shriking "We are the priests..." I have a harmonizer filter on my Sun workstation, and I digitized that section from my CD and played with it, but could not make it sound like Geddy. So who knows... Later... Art (imitating life) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1993 10:44:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Lewis A Bernstein <V087N562@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu> Subject: Back cover art, phrases, and live material. Someone (Tom B.) asked if the back cover of the Cp disc was original artwork or if it had any religious significance. I think that it was placed there because it is a famous psychological sketch, the most noticable aspect of the drawing is the triangle which isn't there at all! It is about visual perception. It is by no means original, and I highly doubt if there is any religious overtones in it at all. (Even if it slightly resembles a Star of David.) Next topic, why does everyone associate the phrase Screwed, Blued & Tatooed (sp?) with Primus. I am not a Primus fan (tried, but just can't get into it), and I had heard this expression many times and I have lived in upstate NY all of my life. Why can't it just be that Hugh, or Rush, or whoever wrote the inside cover, just heard of this expression before. Recently someone asked if Circumstances had ever been performed live, and I say YES! The tape I have of one of the Hemispheres shows has every note of that album LIVE. Amazing bass work on Cp! ORQ - "I'm old enough not to care to much about what you think of me. I'm young enough to remember the future, the way things ought to be." Lewis (Hey! there are two of us!) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 10:40:48 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas G Schwabe <dgsst4+@pitt.edu> Subject: John Webster and Peter Collins For the person who inquired about John Webster, he played keyboards on Gowan's "Lost Brotherhood" CD and produced and played keys on Kim Mitchell's "Aural Fixations". Both are great albums, so check 'em out!! As far as the return of Peter Collins for CP, I wondered recently what would have happened had he stayed with Rush. Personally, I don't think Rush's attempts of putting the guitars in front would have happenend, and I don't think the last two Queensryche CD's would be that great, either. So the split, IMO, was good for both parties. Welcome back, Peter!!! Oh, Aaron in Miami, I thought that Ulf Samuelssen was Cam Neely's hero :) PENGUINS '94 : BRINGING THE CUP BACK TO THE 'BURG!! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue Nov 2 1993 10:15 EST From: Gedman (SLLF) <scott@zach.fit.edu> Subject: The Mysterious Bayfront Arena in Pensacola Greetings fellow Rushians, Boy is it Freezing here in the "Space Coast"! Greetings to the Florida Rush Chapter: Matt, Eric, Jim, Aaron, and Andrew. Two posts ago our beloved rush-mgr responsed to my post saying: >[ They're not playing the Civic Center!! It's at some place called the > Bayfront Arena, apparently a much smaller venue than the center. Try > calling there and let us know what you've found out... :) Also the > date of the first show is January 22, *not* January 24. : rush-mgr ] Well, I called (904) information they said that they have never heard of the Bayfront Arena! Can any of you other guys from the Florida Chapter verify this? I know Jim has Emailed me and said that he lives near Pensacola. Whoa! Stop Everything! I decided in the middle of writing this post to make a phone call to Ticket Master. My reason was to find out if they have heard of a Bayfront Arena. Guess what, there is one! But it is in St. Petersburg. This town is located near Tampa Bay. So I called them. They said there has been no Word yet of Rush Playing there. But for some reason she sounded like she knew something, but didn't want to leak out any information. I could be wrong with my hunch. They (the St. Petersburg Bayfront Arena) told me that there was a Bayfront Ampitheatre in Miami. Hey Aaron, maybe you could start bothering them with phone calls? Their Phone number is (305) 358-7550. I have already called them and they said that there was no word about Rush playing there. This person sounded like they were not hidding anything. rush-mgr, I would check your source again about the January 22 Bayfront Arena Pensacola date. [ It has been verified that it is the Bayfront Arena in Pensacola. I too, questioned this because I did know of one in St. Petersburg, but he is adamant that it is in *Pensacola*... The reason you might not be able to find out information on it (the show, not the venue), is that I have heard it is not yet confirmed. : rush-mgr ] I hope everybody benefits from this information. I have read some peoples' posts about how they are going to drive to Pensacola. One guy, a Mark Feinberg said he wanted to drive from Atlanta. I will keep everyone updated as often as I can. Gotta goooooooooo! -Later Gedman (SLLF) ========================================================================== = Scott Josephson "And if the music stops, = = Chief AI Audio Specialist there's only the sound = = and Graduate Student of the rain, all the = = Florida Institute of Technology hope and glory, all the = = Email: scott@zach.fit.edu sacrifice in vain" = = Bravado - Neil Peart = ========================================================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 13:24:07 -0500 From: Carmine T Guida <cguida@libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu> Subject: Re: 11/01/93 - The National Midnight Star #804 Hey.. I was wondering.. In the begging of one on the songs on Grace under Pressure.. actually it's the chorus.. Geddy sings.. "One Zero Zero, One Zero Zero One... SOS" Perhaps that is that the binary digits are.. More morse Code.. Remember that in YYZ the intro is YYZ in morse code... Lalallal -Carmine- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 10:25:45 -0800 From: mcmay@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu Subject: Unusual RTB Tour Memories Tom Beaudoin asked if anyone had bizzare experiences during the RTB tour in anticipation of the CP tour. Well how about this: I had front row seats, about 7 feet from the guys. This girl was sitting about three seats down was about 4 feet tall and drinking a beer that was about 5 feet tall. Needless to say, she wasn't to aware of her suroundings. Soon she was liplocked with her boyfriend in a pretty graphic way, and Alex being right in front of her noticed and started making some kissy-face expressions. Soon, Alex had the whole front section laughing at this couple and they didn't even notice for about 3-4 minutes. Of cource, they guys didn't miss a beat. Another 3 or 4 songs later the rest of the beer was gone, and the girl was "asleep" front row at a Rush concert!!! (What a WASTE, I thought. I also knew what was going to happenen...) And did it ever. She BLEW CHUNKS EVERYWHERE!!!!, including all over the guy next to her and all over my friends' shoe! YUK!! Alex and Geddy saw this and almost blew chunks themselves! Just the expresssion of thier faces was worth the cost!!! They quickly turned away and went stage right, Geddy's barf-free side. Again, they didn't miss a beat. One other thing. I brought a 8 1/2 by 11 piece of paper that said "PLAY RIVENDELL!!" on it and held it up. Alex and Geddy both saw it and got a pretty good laugh!! Made my day, allthough they didn't play it. So that is my story!! It was the best concert I've been too. Not because of the barf thing, but because of the front row aspect. P.S.- This was at the Oakland, California show. Matt May Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, California ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 1:19 pm EST (18:19:46 UT) From: "Deborah L. Gauger" <GAUG2192%FREDONIA.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: _COUNTERPARTS_...A couple of questions... Hey Fellow Rush fans... I just have a couple of quick questions regarding CP (which by the way I love....not as much as Presto...but I still love it). Anyways... 1) Right before _Alien Shore_, there is an interresting little noise. I was just curious as to what it says...if anything. If anyone knows, or has any idea as to what it might be, knowing myself would make me one happy Rush fan...:) 2) Also, on the liner of CP, there is the picture of Neil, Alex, and Geddy....you know the one where Neil has the goatee....Anyway, I was just wondering if there was any significance to the medals, that all three are wearing, and that two of them are holding. Anyway, I've just been kinda curious about those two things since I got CP, which i love...did i mention that yet?? Anyway, gotta fade into fiction.... -Debbie Gauger (aka Presto) "Reasoning is partly insane Image just an eyeless game. The night iis turning thin The saint turns to sin." -NP ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 12:43:03 -0600 From: c512052@monad.missouri.edu Subject: Why CP is as good if not better than MP or PeW Hi everyone, I hear most everyone saying that Counterparts is almost as good as MP or PeW - but not quite. So I have a little experiment for you: Take your favorite 35-40 minutes of songs off Counterparts and listen to them over and over and over until you think that they really belong in that sequence. Then compare to either MP or PeW, and see if you don't like CP better. You probably will. That's the glory of this album: it is half again as long as either of the two earlier albums, so you can be a little more discriminating about the songs that "speak to you." If MP was another 20 minutes longer, there might actually have been a song on there you didn't like. Imagine that! Regards, David ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 14:21:54 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Smith <msmith@access.netaxs.com> Subject: Seal of Solomon? No. The symbol on the back of the album is NOT a seal of solomon (or Star of David), it's an optical illusion. Psychologists sometimes use it for tests. Something you need to note is that the Seal of Solomon isn't the Seal of Solomon unless it's placed inside a circle, and, to be correct, also has the proper colors, but it doesn't always. The same way a 5 pointed star is not a pentagram, unless it's placed in a circle. It's simply a star otherwise. The other reason why it couldn't even be a Mogan David is because there is no inverted triangle, just the "suggestion" of one, that's where the optical illusion lies. Actually, there's really only the suggestion of a point up triangle as well, suggested by the 3 "V" shapes. Technically all there is to it is 3 "Pac Man" shaped circles, and 3 "V" shapes. No triangles at all. It just suggests their existance. As for what the connection between this symbol and "Counterparts" might be, let's be broader minded, what if we take the symbol itself, and compair it to the binary numbers there? Are there any secrets hidden there? A little research into this optical illusion might yeild the answer... But then, I doubt it. However, I'm sure someone will want to try to figure it out. I might too, if I have some free time, I like to figure out puzzles. But we're not even certain one exists here. We could come up with 10 perfectly legitimate answers and all of them could be just as correct as the next one, but unless there's someone out there who really does know who can tell us "Yes, you guessed it, that's the right answer", all this cryptogrophy is for naught. ----------------------------------------------------------------- | msmith@netaxs.com | | msmith@bigboy.cis.temple.edu | | bpsu60a@prodigy.com | | Cmdr. Michael A. Smith - U.S.S. Malverne | ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 14:32:37 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Smith <msmith@access.netaxs.com> Subject: Reply to Joseph Alan Cerro Re Re: "Strangers by one Chromosome" It's not the technical aspects I'm concerned with there, it's the fact that the song all but comes out and bites you on the nose and says "What we mean here is both race AND sex". I think a lot of the Rush Fans in this digest suffer from a common psychological disorder, which is, that they tend to spend so much time picking for the minute details, that they lose sight of the "big picture". Take a step back... Read the WHOLE SONG. Now, with that in mind, re-read that line. Makes more sense now right? I think so. I think that, with the entire song in mind, a lot of the nit-picking that's done can be avoides. Case in point... That old (Hopefully dead now) debate about the line "Christ, what have you done?" in The Pass... No, he's not asking a question about what CHRIST has done, he's not referring to Christ at all, not in any way shape or form. It's an expression, that's all, nothing more. "Christ" could easily be replaced here (not literally, I mean, in the context of a word used that'd hold the same kind of meaning) by a word like "Damnit!" or "Man!" or even, "My God!" It's not a religious thing, it's just an expression, a common one too. But, once again the collective Rush fans overlooked it because they had their microscopes tuned in on 5 words, instead of the whole song. It's simple, don't take things out of context, and often, you'll find the answer you've been looking for has been stairing you right in the face. [ Ah... I see someone here should check out the older digests for the infamous Christ - The Pass thread. :rush-mgr ] ----------------------------------------------------------------- | msmith@netaxs.com | | msmith@bigboy.cis.temple.edu | | bpsu60a@prodigy.com | | Cmdr. Michael A. Smith - U.S.S. Malverne | ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Symphonic Music of Yes From: mcorso@mindvox.phantom.com (Mike Corso) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 93 14:47:24 EST The new _Symphonic Music of Yes_ hit stores today. What a great recording. Not only is the music inside great, but the packaging is really fabulous. Roger Dean, once again, did an amazing piece for the cover. The record can now be found, or should be found, in almost any store you shop at. Let me know if you can't find it at your favoite outlet and tell mewhat store that is and whee. Bill Bruford and Steve Howe will be in New York to promote the record November 11 and 12. They'll be appearing on Westwood One's Satellite feed to many top market AOR stations on Friday November 12 to talk about the record and perform "unplugged." Is anyone interested in what sations they'll be on? [ Hmm... funny, I can't find any Rush content above. Please, let's not confuse this mailing list with the Yes Mailing list. I know there are a lot of Rush fans who also like Yes, but there's a place for that. The NMS should be for Rush discussions. :rush-mgr ] C-man ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Todd M Morris <morristo@student.msu.edu> Subject: Liner notes interpretation Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 16:12:49 -0500 (EST) As this is my first post, I realize that I have to be careful what I say. I'm usually the type to sit back and read everyone else's ideas, but when no one seemed to figure out an obvious picture in the Cp sleeve, I wanted to offer a simple solution. At the risk of sounding repetitive, the picture of the leaf with the symbol in the center represents the current situation in Canada. The leaf is a maple leaf, representing Canada as a whole. The symbol contained within the leaf is a fleur-de-lis, often used as a representation of the Province of Quebec. The fact that the two symbols are contained within each other represents the ongoing struggle by Quebec for its independence. Maybe Geddy, Alex, and Neil are trying to make a political statement? On another note, I'm originally from Buffalo, NY, but I go to school at Michigan State. Therefore, if anyone is planning on going to shows in either of those two areas, please let me know if you hear anything regarding ticket information. I saw four shows on the RTB tour and am planning on making it to about ten this time. I'll keep reading TNMS, but if anything else comes up, let me know. -Todd MSU..... Rose Bowl or Toilet Bowl? ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 02 Nov 93 16:55:55 EST From: "Geeslin, Will" <geeslinw@uklans.uky.edu> Subject: RTB rap The reason it doesn't sound like Geddy is because his voice is slowed down. This would serve to drastically change the accent you are listening for. The answer the rush-mgr gave is based on comments from the band itself, so what would the motivation for them(Rush) to deceive? Hope this helps. Will Geeslin geeslinw@uklans.uky.edu geeslin@mik.uky.edu University of Kentucky ----------------------------------------------------------
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