The National Midnight Star #679

From temples@syrinx.umd.edu Wed May 12 19:05:28 1993 Return-Path: <temples@syrinx.umd.edu> Received: from syrinx.umd.edu by dsys.ncsl.nist.gov (4.1/NIST-dsys) id AA18145; Wed, 12 May 93 19:05:26 EDT Received: by syrinx.umd.edu (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA29416; Wed, 12 May 93 18:30:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 May 93 18:30:07 -0400 Message-Id: <9305122230.AA29416@syrinx.umd.edu> Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu Subject: 05/12/93 - The National Midnight Star #679 Status: R
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FAQ: Changes to Rush Fans Frequently Asked Questions ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu <The RUSH Fans Digest Manager> Date: Wed May 12 16:03:17 EDT 1993 Subject: Administrivia One thing I forgot to mention yesterday, there is a new version of the faq available via anonymous ftp to syrinx.umd.edu, or by mailing to me (not this address!). The diff file appears at the end of this digest. - rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 May 93 19:41:05 GMT From: "Eduardo A. Pfiffer" <GMCABWH%BRUFF.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU> Subject: The fear rushians, I'd like to have some more information about 'the feaR' trilogy. i recently read some information about it, but i don't remember. So, i want to know what this 'fear' really means. greetings from brazil, eddie...(gmcabwh@bruff) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 19:27:13 -0400 From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) Subject: The Rush Rip-Off Bureau All Rush fans must read this post too! (Hey, if you must read the other one, and it has all those stars drawing attention to it, you ought to have to read mine too. I wonder why you'd get TMNS if you didn't want to read the posts, but I guess that's one of those things we'll never know.) Why not eliminate the middle man and just trade boots with someone? No middle man really needs to be involved here at all. It looks to me like the middle men get all these high quality audio tapes. And your tapes get to be one generation more from the source. Direct trades would certainly cut down your own personal overhead expenses. For example, was an actual experience that happened a month or two ago: I have a 1987 bootleg of a Hold Your Fire show. This other guy had an early 80s show. We swapped tapes. It worked! All you have to do to get me to trade is dangle a live Yes recording of Perpetual Change in front of my face... there are a *lot* of people on the net who'd be willing to trade at the drop of a hat. Scott -- I know you know and now I wanna tell everybody (Collins, 1982) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 19:31:09 -0400 From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) Subject: Choosy Rush Lyrics |Also, about the song Freewill: |the lyrics in the CD booklet say: "If you choose not to decide you |<cannot> have made a choice" |and Geddy sings "If you choose not to decide you <still> have made |a choice" |Other thoughts? I noticed that too! Other than that line, I can't make out a word Geddy is singing, and needed to consult the lyrics -- and they're not even what's on the album :) Why? My theory -- theory, I said -- is that it's one of those songs that had a lot of different versions, and they couldn't decide which set of lyrics to use until *after* lyrics went off to the album cover maker. The one on the album was changed after the point of no return. Has Rush ever addressed this? Scott -- You still... um, you cannot, um... I'll get back to you on this quote ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 May 93 17:42:09 -0600 From: DOVE JAMES BRIAN <dove@shapley.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Rush and 'rap' Im taking a survey: How many of you would prefer the Roll the Bones title track without the quasi rap session? Jim Dove ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 23:03:14 -0400 (EDT) From: mhoupt@uceng.uc.EDU (Michael R Houpt) Subject: Marathon Hey all, Someone wrote in the other day about how Geddy plays the intro to Marathon so damn fast and sings too. well the only reason i can find, and i play bass myself, is that he is the Master of the instrument. Any other comments on this topic?? Take it easy, mike ---------------------------------------------------------- From: tvos@umcc.umich.edu (David A Warner) Subject: TNMS Convention... Disappointment!!! Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 23:03:02 -0400 (EDT) First of all I like to say for those who sent their money into slythex and keeping word on going to toronto I give you guys/gals a big thanx... but for those who said "yeah, I'll deffinitly go" then backed out on slythex was pretty rude.. considering how much time the guy put into organization of this gathering I think IMHO you all should apologize... it would have been nice to meet you all, but i guess thats the way the big wheel spins... so if I get flammed, please do so, i really don' t and i'll stick up for my friends who make a honest attempt on bringing people together who share much with the band Rush... going thru all that hell to organize an event.... think about it people.... the voice of silence ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Sig Length Date: Tue, 11 May 93 23:19:40 EDT From: "The Wombat" <mfrazer@skidmore.EDU> Hey guys, I mean, those of you who complain aboutr black holes, and then have a 12 line sig containing only one word in big ol' ascii picture format, cut it out. Well, actually this is not why I'm writing, and yes, I know my sig is a little longish... Starting to get my Rush... OK in 1991-92 school year I was a freshman at Skidmore College, and I met this guy second day of orientation. we discovered that we had the police between us, the band that is, now I'm a bit of a musician, I sang alot, but he had been onb the drum kit since he was 3, he also played the Bass (Black Rickenbaker if thats how to spell it) etc... so eventuaally I moved in wirth this guy since we had gotten to be pals over the semester and my roomie beat girls while I was in the room, and the roomie was an ass to boot. So Jon (The Guy) and I move in, hge tried to interest me in Rush, but it wasn't working, so he let it rest, altrough I got another earful after he returned from the RTB show in albany. So anyways, Jon and I were pals, and something stuck with me over the summer, that damn bass line from Roll the Bones, sometimes I couldn't shake it. Like most fools I got into the grunge stuff with Pearl Jam, quite a contrast to the Sting Police U2 life I had been living, Achtung Baby contributed to my digression from U2 the band that had gotten 90% of my stereo time b4 So come september I hooked up with Jon again, I got hooke first on King Crimson (The Red LP) and then on the earlier Crimson, then, I borrowed Chronicles mainly for my radio show, and Subdivisions I fell in love with, gradually I tuned into the likes of Lakeside Park and Fly By night, and now, you can't get Rush off my stereo too easily. In fadct the voices that once called into the radio show to say hey man, what is that stuff it's kinda cool have become hey man all you ever play is rush and king crimson. I try now to put a little more in the show, but if anyone gives me hell I just say, hey, it's a public station, get yer own show if you don't like it. Rush is some of the best damn driving music arouond. Favorite stuff is on p/g HYF and RTB as well as FBN CoSteel Have I bored you sufficiently, are the typos a pain? well you try to correct on a 1200 baud line :> -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-The Wombat IS Matthew Frazer-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Here is the sacred face of rendezvous | finger mfrazer@scott.skidmore.edu In subway sour | Make me happy, give me a Saab 9000 Whose grand delusions | Aero in dark green! prey like intellect | 1985 900 Turbo 111k miles In lunatic minds... | A New Hampshire boy in NY state --------------------------------=Be Seeing You=-------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 01:43:03 -0230 (NDT) From: Robert Piercey <rpiercey@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> Subject: MuchMusic Coverage of Lampoon Ceremony Greetings all. Though it's old news that the Harvard Lampoon has named Rush "Band of the Millennium," I thought some NMS readers might be interested in hearing about the attention that MuchMusic, Canada's MTV, gave to the award ceremony. Today's installment of "Fax," an entertainment news show, had a story on the event. The story showed footage of the band receiving their award--three pizzas. It also showed clips of the fictional Mark Twain ("I'd like to thank you boys for putting me on the map") and a bizarre, droning version of "Tom Sawyer" as sung by the Male Choir of Our Father Augustus. All three members seemed amused, though Neil a bit less so. By the way, I was a bit taken aback by his goatee and moustache. He looks a bit Satanic. Also, Alex seems to have put on a little weight. The best part of the story, IMHO, was Alex's brief but very funny speech to the Lampoon crowd. "College kids," he chuckled. "What do you know about life? What do you know about lying in a hotel room, ordering room service? Getting in a limo, sitting around, not being responsible for yourself, having someone do your laundry...?" Alex also mocked the students's attempt to party with the band. "I thought they could drink," he snorted; "Hmmph. Big Al could show 'em a few things." In short, the band seemed very tongue-in-cheek about the whole thing--appropriately so, considering who gave them the award. Now, if we could only get those people at the Junos to lighten up a bit... Robert Piercey | They said, "There's too much caffeine Memorial University | in your bloodstream, rpiercey@morgan.ucs.mun.ca | And a lack of real spice in your life." rpiercey@kean.ucs.mun.ca | -Morrissey ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 May 93 0:23:58 cdt From: "Finke,Chad D" <FINKE@AC.GRIN.EDU> Subject: Python on OtE As I was typing up a final paper for my socioology class today, listening to Over the Europe on my Discman, I noticed a cool little thing, and just had to post it. At the very end of "Where's my Thing," from 5:26 to 5:28, there is a voice (possibly Geddy or Alex, or maybe digitzed) from Monty Python that yells out "No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!" Kind o' cool. Python and Rush: two great tastes that taste great together. Chad Finke ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larry Salomon Jr." <os2man@Panix.Com> Subject: Finger Lick'in Good Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 07:48:14 -0400 (EDT) > Just a response to the person who asked how the hell Geddy can play >the beginning of Marathon so fast. Well, the answer is very simple... >Geddy Lee is IMHO the best fucking bass player ever born. He can play whatever >the hell he wants. Oh, this is good. I can see the flames now from those who feel that we shouldn't worship Rush and kiss the ground they walk on. I'm a "fly-by-night" bass player (pun intended) whose main instrument is guitar and don't find "Marathon" to be that difficult. It's all in the technique of playing those 16th notes properly (try letting your fingers swing out a bit before coming down to hit the strings. This helps for now but I would stop using this as soon as you can, since it develops bad habits). Cheers, Q ---------------------------------------------------------- From: u9031278@athmail1.causeway.qub.ac.uk Subject: various Date: Wed, 12 May 93 13:00:12 BST firstly i'd like to know if anyone else out there has a copy of Visions which spells Neil Peart's name as Neal, i have one which has this mistake and i think it's pretty sad that they should get the name of one of the band members the book is about wrong.This error is on the back cover (below the photograph's),however i have seen others with the name spelt right (on the back) the main text itself does have the proper spelling. About the box set idea i think this would be a great idea as Chronicles is crap- i did'nt buy it there was'nt any point.Something i'd really like to see on any potential boxset would be the entire Cygnus X-1 concept live as it would sound amazing.Unfortunately i don't think there are many unreleased studio cuts so maybe they could include a future album as part of such a package?. Now just a couple of non Rush things, has anyone heard about a new Yes album coming out some time in May, and did Neil Young just play acoustic stuff on his last tour or did he play some electric Crazy Horse material as well, he's coming to Ireland,i just hope he brings Crazy Horse with him(not that his acoustic stuff is bad!).Email me direct if you know about these last 2 things. Finally about black holes..... well maybe not. Ruairi ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Dickerman <dickermn@hpcugsya.cup.hp.com> Subject: Stray "beep" in The Pass Date: Wed, 12 May 93 10:58:58 PDT In the last issue, Jamie W. Sandford notes: > Instead, the noise (after more CAREFUL listening -- it does help to > listen to the song before you open your mouth! :) ) is acutally between > "Static on your frequency/Electrical storm in your veins." and the next line I don't normally spend time dealing with such trivia (a resounding chorus of "get a life" is heard), but by wild coincidence, I happen to have the CD near the diskman, and have lost much of the will to work. That seems to happen a lot... hm... Anyway. Assuming there is no "beep" or "click" on just _your_ disk, due to a bit of dust on the CD, then you're probably talking about the following: There _is_ a non-musical sound between "Electrical storm in your veins." and "Raging at unreachable glory". At 00:41 into the track, just past the downbeat of 4 (for all you musicians), there is a sound which is something like what you'd get if you tensioned a spring, then run your hand quickly across it. The same sound appears earlier in the track, at about 00:03.5, also about beat 4. This also the sound you'd get if you were playing electric bass (which has several thick, wire-wound strings), had your hand on the strings to keep them silent, then quickly lifted your hand, brushing one or more of the strings. Given what's going on in the song at that point, I'd bet this where it's coming from. --Dan ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Laurie Petersen <upresto@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu> Subject: CNN news... Date: Wed, 12 May 93 12:01:40 PDT Did Rush really make CNN news? I thought I'd read that in the last issue, but I wasn't sure. I agree with all that's been said about the song Presto lately. I think it's one of Peart's pseudo love songs. It's also my favorite. :) I also think that Red Lenses and Anagram (for Mongo) are excellent word plays. I am an English major, so I ecpecially appreciate this aspect of Peart's lyrics. Later all... Good luck to all those who are stck on the quarter system and still have finals to look forward to. (like me) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 14:36:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Derek Magill <dmagill@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> Subject: Misc. Hello fellow Rush fans!! This is my first post so please be patient. ;) I don't know if I am the only one out there, but to me, COS is the _best_ album to listen to if you are driving alone at night (especially if it is raining)... It is a wonderful, dark album that carries your spirit up (Lakeside Park) and back down (Necromancer). The emotional aspects of the music make the drive worth it, and besides, it really is a great album (even when not driving..) Highly underrated.... I also wanted to commment on the "breaking in period" for starting to like Rush. I personally took two years before I really started to like them. I only liked Tom Sawyer and Red Barchetta (my all-time fave!!) and thought that the rest was trash (sorry). But, much like fine wine, I aged and matured, and the lyrics started to reach me. I must say that I grew up on Rush, and they helped to shape my view on life. I personally am writing them, not to tell them that they are great (they know that!), but to help a young, borderline boy become an intelligent, cultured man. We should all thank them for thier contributions to our lives. Thanks guys... Derek Magill at the University of Texas at Austin, majoring in Psychology I feel the sense of possibilitis.. I feel the wrench of hard realities... The focus is sharp in the city!! Neil Peart ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 15:58:50 -0400 From: Gregg Jaeger <jaeger@buphy.bu.edu> Subject: Rush at Lampoon: snapshots... Hi There! As I reported in the last NMS, I attended the appearance of Rush at the Harvard Lampoon. I have just got back some snapshots from this appearance and would be very willing to make reprints of them for the interested. If you are intersted in getting any of the six good shots (four of the three together, two of Neil and Alex, and one of Ged heading toward the limo (front shot)) then drop me email, and hurry: I want to get my reprint order in soon. Gregg (jaeger@buphy.bu.edu) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 May 93 00:30:39 PDT From: dan@phoenix.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany) Subject: FAQ: Changes to Rush Fans Frequently Asked Questions Rush FAQ: Changes since last posting A few lines around each change are shown to give you an idea of the context. If an answer to a question seems incomplete, or a question is listed and then the answer isn't in this file, that's because this is the file that shows what has changed since the previous posting of the FAQ. Only the things that have changed since the previous posting appear in this file, along with a few lines around each change to show you the context of the change. Lines that have been added have a + in the first column. Lines that have been deleted have a - in the first column. Lines that have been modified have a ! in the first column. The old form of the line is shown first, then the new form is shown. ----- Changes to faq.header ----- No differences encountered ----- Changes to faq.1 ----- *** /tmp/da17498 Sun May 9 00:30:06 1993 --- faq.1 Wed May 5 08:32:43 1993 *************** *** 414,420 **** The 1st anniversary issue of TNMS contains song lists for each tour Rush has done up to _Presto_. This is issue 99, available for FTP at ! syrinx.umd.edu. Does anybody know if <band> ever opened for Rush? When did Rush play in <city> last? --- 414,420 ---- The 1st anniversary issue of TNMS contains song lists for each tour Rush has done up to _Presto_. This is issue 99, available for FTP at ! anagram.umd.edu. Does anybody know if <band> ever opened for Rush? When did Rush play in <city> last? *************** *** 609,614 **** --- 609,617 ---- "digest" - Contains back issues of the current incarnation of the digest from issue # 1 to the current issue; + + Issues 1 through 250 of TNMS are available via ftp + from anagram.umd.edu in the rush/digest directory. "lyrics" - Contains the lyrics for all the albums up through _Roll The Bones_; ----- Changes to faq.2 ----- No differences encountered ----- Changes to faq.3 ----- No differences encountered Dan Delany (dan@csc.calpoly.edu) My sister wears combat boots. ----------------------------------------------------------
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