The National Midnight Star #667

From temples@syrinx.umd.edu Sun Apr 25 21:42:22 1993 Return-Path: <temples@syrinx.umd.edu> Received: from syrinx.umd.edu by dsys.ncsl.nist.gov (4.1/NIST-dsys) id AA20065; Sun, 25 Apr 93 21:42:20 EDT Received: by syrinx.umd.edu (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA20687; Sat, 24 Apr 93 18:30:07 -0400 Date: Sat, 24 Apr 93 18:30:07 -0400 Message-Id: <9304242230.AA20687@syrinx.umd.edu> Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu Subject: 04/23/93 - The National Midnight Star #667 Status: R ** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** List posting/followup: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Administrative matters: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu or rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu (Administrative postings to the posting address will be ignored!) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The National Midnight Star, Number 667 Friday, 23 April 1993 Today's Topics: Administrivia p/g solos Rivendel Clearing up the Confusion about "Anagram" Subdivisions Video. The text within the lyrics Rush for lunch Notes on NMS #664 Apartment hunting in Florida fretless In Defence of Presto ASOH on LASERDISC and NEW WORLD MAN PARODY Rush fantasyy Wal's on PoW... to Belgarion Speeding wheels...or guitars (none) Coinciding dates Rush live The McKenzie brothers Read Me Rush, of course... RUSH COVERS Dream Theater play Rush at soundchecks. Concert Music and Rush (Limbaugh) Donna Lee? Who performed it... Rupert c.`83 Rupert Hine(s) Presto Unplugged, boots ... General Replies... News Flash: Alex kidnapped by 3-headed space aliens! Favorite Groups Poll Tidbits Assorted Stuff Rush Fantasy Alex MIA?/RUSH Fantasy Box set Rush ain't satanic Morse code and Ham radio Rush and recognition 2112 MESSAGE Digest #666 666 issue 666-I laughed, I cried... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager) Date: Fri Apr 23 15:48:41 EDT 1993 Subject: Administrivia Thanks to all who contributed to the "Satanic Edition" of the digest, it was great! And some posts that people sent in just came in too late to make that issue, so if you didn't see yours in the digest that's probably why. This issue should catch up all the posts that have been waiting to be sent out. - rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 20 Apr 1993 04:02:34 -0400 (EDT) From: DP2784%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Subject: p/g solos Hey there all... A few weeks ago someone said something (I think!) about one of the guitar solos on p/g that was recorded backwards. What song was this in? Muchos Gracias, Dan "Albany Sucks" Pisacano ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 11:03 MDT Subject: Rivendel From: mspring@hvlpa.att.com! Rushia, All this unplugged talking reminded me of THE unplugged song by Rush: Rivendel (just MHO). I think that the acoustic guitar is played by Geddy, not by Alex. On the album it says under geddy's name (something like) Bass Guitar, Occasional Acoustic Guitar and Vocals. Since Geddy wrote the song with Neil I think Geddy plays the Acoustic Guitar. You can hear Alex play some synth-like notes on the electric guitar and I also think that if Alex would have played it a little bit more complex than the current version by Geddy (if this is true ofcourse). I donot hope this is a FAQ (the last time I read it was quite a while ago, I wasn't even subscribed then) but if its not I'd like to see this dis- cussed. Oh BTW if there is anybody out there that has info on RTB on vinyl. pleasepleaaseplease let me know it too. I dont have a CD player and I have alll the Rush album except RTB :^( This is off ocurse not acceptable for any Rush-aholic. CU Mark mspring@hvlpa.att.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Clearing up the Confusion about "Anagram" Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 09:58:50 EDT From: cvander@eos.ncsu.edu Greetings from the Sundog! Guess you could say I'm a long time listener, first time caller. I think this Satanic discussion is going to people's heads: Message to Andy C...The song Anagram, especially that chorus line, has NOTHING to do with satanic ideas. If you'll take a good look at all the lyrics, every(or almost every) line uses a certain word(s), then changes the letters around to create a new word, which is then used to complete the line. This is the whole meaning of "anagram" and it's used with ferocious cleverness by NP (no surprise there.) Hope that ends that satanic sidetrack. Well, I enjoyed getting that off my brain. P.S. To all Yankees fans...Red Sox 10w,3l (who would have thunk it) Signing Off [_.___.____.._.___.____.._] ---------------------------------------------------------- From: alecren@cs.umr.edu Subject: Subdivisions Video. Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 20:01:55 CDT If this question should have gone in the faq I applogize but I didnt see it covered in there. Does anyone know what city that is used for the subdivisions video? I have heard that it is Los Angeles but it seems too small. One last quick thing. Has anyone recently tried to buy Neil Peart signature sticks? I put in an order over 3 weeks ago and they told me that the warehouse was out of them. Apparentally they dont keep them in stock. I am wondering...did Neil only put out a limited amount? Thanks. Starfox -- Starfox | "Now is the time turn the tide, | Now is the time to fight." Andrew LeCren | -- Neil Peart alecren@cs.umr.edu | s112235@umrvma.umr.edu | "If you choose not to decide, | you still have made a choice." | -- Neil Peart ---------------------------------------------------------- From: oversoul@aol.com Subject: The text within the lyrics Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 21:22:47 EDT Hy, A matter of curiosity, are the text passages within the lyrics to 2112, in the lyrics directory of syrix the work of Peart, or are they the clever addition of the person who put the lyrics there? [ These text passages appear inside the original album liner notes, they were not 'added' by the person who put the lyrics on syrinx. : rush-mgr ] latta, Haplo ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 00:25:09 -0500 From: Jeremy Todd Strzynski <jtstrzyn@cherry.wustl.edu> Subject: Rush for lunch i'm telling you this pathetic story because the NMS is the only place where i can find sympathetic ears. today at noontime i was listening to robert johnson (truly amazing music for those of you interested) when i called up a friend to see about lunch. we agreed to meet in five minutes. so i took out the cd i had in, and as i usually do, i checked to see what was on the radio. during the noontime hour, KSHE (a st. louis station mentioned on the NMS before) plays an artist for lunch, and then one for dessert, which means they play one artist or group for forty minutes, and then another for the remaining twenty. thus i turned the station to KSHE to see who was for lunch--this was at about 12:06, right at the beginning. for those of you who have difficulty anticipating obvious plots and who also failed to look at the subject of this post, i found myself in the middle of the "Working Man" jam. i also caught the first verse of RTB, but i had to go eat. i missed forty minutes of Rush. i tried to console myself thinking that i have all of the songs they'd have played on disc anyway, but let's be honest, it's always best to hear your favorite group on the radio, even if it is only "normal" Rush. thank you for listening. i feel much better now. jeremy some are born to move the world to live their fantasies but most of us just dream about the things we'd like to be sadder still to watch it die than never to have known it for you the blind who once could see, the bell tolls for thee ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Notes on NMS #664 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 10:10:11 EDT From: cvander@eos.ncsu.edu TO: jenkinsp@kenyon.edu ---re: > I was just wondering what all of you think about the album Presto. > A lot of my friends that love Rush seem to be a little down on it, > but I think it's one of their best. Not to worry, my friend. IMO, Presto was the best album Rush put forth since Moving Pictures. It was refreshing blast of musical energy. The boys seemed to be really enjoying themselves once again and almost every song gets me singing. My only complaints about Presto are---1) the complete lack of presence of Geddy's bass and 2) the album cover. Let's see what others think... TO: Redpaco... So, you're making a move to the land of the Blue Devil. Well, ma'am (as the gentlemen say in the South), be prepared for a welcome culture shock. I'm a Durham resident (my wife's a nurse at Duke). You'll be happy to know that most of the stereotypes are untrue in the RDU area. Many of us are trans- plants from up North who have come for work (VERY LOW unemployment rate here). You won't find the exceptional variety of Bahston, but you get an abundance of nightlife, sports, and culture at a more relaxed pace. Oh, and just to keep this message barely RUSH related, WRDU 106.1 usually plays only the standard fare plus too much Southern rock. If you want to know more, E-mail me at my address. the sundog P.S. Red Sox 11 W , 3 L (Has the Curse of the Bambino finally been lifted??) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 13:07:07 MST From: Scott Raby <SRABY@NMSUVM1.NMSU.EDU> Subject: Apartment hunting in Florida Rush-mgr sorry for the non-rush content of this. Does anyone live in the Titusville area of Florida? and if so, can you contact me? I am looking for a place to live there for the summer and am having little luck in doing so. Thanks Scott sraby@nmsuvm1 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: bsanant@uclink.berkeley.edu (Birjinder Singh Anant) Subject: fretless Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 13:37:39 PDT Hello, i don't know if anyone said this yet, but i'm pretty sure a fretless bass was used on Pink Floyd's "Hey You", and according to David Gilmour he played it, instead of Roger Waters. Also, Chris Maka wrote about how he hasn't seen many non-white, non-hispanic Rush fans. I'm from Texas also(and i'm Indian), and I know people from all different backgrounds that like Rush in Texas. Here in the Bay Area, i've seen a lot of Indians with Rush shirts on, and i've noticed quite a few Indian names on the NMS. Bye, Birjinder ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 11:40:17 +1200 From: Martin.Phillipson@vuw.ac.nz Subject: In Defence of Presto Hi First of all thanks for correcting the Jaco tune title, sorry about that. Secondly, and more importantly I think Presto is one of the bands best albums. When it first came out i thought it was a real improvement on HYF which I think is one of the boys lamest (but of course lame in regards to Rush is a relative term). In particular I loved the intro to Show Don't Tell (still one of my favourite Rush songs) Just my $0.02!!! Greetings from New Zealand Martin ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 19:46:28 -0400 From: Christopher Mermagen <cmermag@wam.umd.edu> Subject: ASOH on LASERDISC and NEW WORLD MAN PARODY I can't remember who wrote these (Chris and Clator??) anyway ASOH on laser - Yes, it is out and my friend has it.. As a matter of fact, they add a bonus song to it- Lock and Key live.. It is really cool. I couldn't believe it the first time we watched it. It has like a 30sec intro on the rear vid screen of this wierd guy in jail talking (like the clips from the video).. really cool. A must have for you laser disc owners.. New World Man Parody - Yeah, they played it down hear in Baltimore as well on 98 rock.. "He's a wayne's world man.." Pretty funny. I was wondering when they would do a parody of a Rush song.. I've heard lots of other artists.. like AC/DC (PMS instead of TNT).. :) anyway, take it easy Chris ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Apr 1993 19:01:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Let me slip into something more neurotic..." <TBEAUDOIN@VAX1.UMKC.EDU> Subject: Rush fantasyy Here is my Rush fantasy: The setting is Fantasy Island. I approach the island in the Love Boat, with Captain Stuebing at the helm and the Blessed Virgin Mary as yeoman purser, because Gopher is away for the weekend. Anyway, we pull up to Fantasy Island, and I get off the boat. I approach the palm trees and see the lighted bamboo poles to welcome the new guests. Suddenly I notice Alex as Ricardo Montalbon saying "Welcome, welcome to Fantasy Island" and who should be running up to his side but Neil Peart as (short as) Herve Villachez, shouting "the plane! the plane!" Geddy begins to dance in a grass skirt around the lighted bamboo poles. Whoops -- sorry.. That is my Rush Nightmare. Thomas ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 20:05:41 -0400 From: Christopher Mermagen <cmermag@wam.umd.edu> Subject: Wal's on PoW... to Belgarion Hey man... Cool name, btw- good books as well.. maybe I'll change my name to Silk?? Anyway, I _think_ that I can hear the difference between p/g and PoW. I think that you can readily hear the difference on the following 2 songs.. Marathon vs. Distant Early Warning.. more later- Chris ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 20:26:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason James Haas <jh72+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Speeding wheels...or guitars As for the tempo of songs changing, I distinctly remember the Pittsburgh concert for RTB. In their encore, the Boys played Spirit of Radio and Finding My Way at blazing speed. It was much faster than the songs off the original and live albums. It still sounded good, of course... :-) I haven't the slightest idea why, but maybe they had the buses warmed up and were late for a date????? Good luck in your Rush endeavors. Hoser ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 20:33:43 EST From: bremerdx@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (David Bremer) For all those Neil fans out there, did you know that Neil origionally began playing traditional grip. From day one, he learned all of the rudiments using traditional grip, playing on a pillow (a good technique to build wrist strength). When he switched to matched grip, he decided that he wasen't going to learn all of the rudiments again with this new grip. That's why, on some of the songs, Neil can be seen playing traditional grip. Neil is awsome, but I still think that "The Man" Dave Weckl is the greatist! -"the Firebird" Three-peat PENS!!!! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 20:42:16 CDT From: UC512052@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu Subject: Coinciding dates Someone on #665 commented that RtB was released on his 19th birthday. Cool! Rush played in my hometown on my 21st birthday during the Presto tour. Loads better than getting loaded! David ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 21:00:50 -0500 From: jtstrzyn@papaya.wustl.edu (Jeremy Todd Strzynski ) Subject: Rush live in NMS 665, someone ended a post by saying that Rush is best live and that no other band comes close. I agree with the first part, but i don't agree with the second part. certainly we'd all agree that Rush is among the best bands ever in terms of musical ability, and i personally believe that there is no other band out there with even close to the amount of talent that Geddy, Neil, and Alex have between them. But they don't use all of it. as an example i'll use phish. my roommate is a big phish fan, and has gotten me to go to the two st. louis shows this year, and i can say from experience that phish concerts are insane. even though i'm not too familiar with their discography, i can think of only two or three songs that they played at both shows, and you must keep in mind that each show was almost three hours of music. phish has oodles of material (and yes, "oodles" actually is a scientific unit of measurement, commonly understood to mean "17") that don't appear on any album, and likely will never be released officially. the reason their shows are so insane is that they jam--they'll take a song, and play it for about 13 minutes. then they'll take another song and play it for 10 minutes. then they'll do something weird like throw beachballs into the audience, but i digress. and, as far as i know, NEVER plan out a show until the day of--maybe not even until the show itself. Rush does not do this, and i think their shows, which are already incredible (and better than phish shows IMHO, even with what i've been writing), would improve ten-fold. imagine going to two shows, and hearing maybe four songs of overlap (CttH, Tom Sawyer, etc...), but hearing completely different stuff otherwise. or imagine Alex deciding to do Broon's Bane, but having it last 5 minutes before they go on and play The Trees for 10. Rush would ROCK so hard if they did their shows like this--they'd take about the best show around and leave all others behind. let's be honest--if you name a band with a better guitarist than Alex, Geddy and Neil will leavthere is no band playing today that has even close to the talent of Rush. there should be no concert out there even close to as good as Rush's. now, please don't take my post as one long flame. i love Rush as much as anyone, and will go to their shows as long as they keep playing (a long time, God willing). but I want to see Rush play. I go to their shows primarily to see them perform--i really could care less what they play, even though in all honesty their songs are what's best suited for them to play. so i guess what i'm saying is, for how amazing Rush is, they could be better, as hard as it is to believe. long live Rush, jeremy some are born to move the world to live their fantasies but most of us just dream about the things we'd like to be sadder still to watch it die than never to have known it for you the blind who once could see, the bell tolls for thee ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 23:04:42 -0400 From: alewang@unix.cc.emory.edu (Alex Wang) Subject: The McKenzie brothers This is a short blurb for John Lee (johnlee@sirius.uvic.ca) and anybody else out there who's been wondering about Black Holes on the _Great White North Album_. It took me about for two years before I found someone who had the equipment to play that part of the album backwards via a digitized sound board. Anyways, I'm sorry I don't remember the exact words, but the two just rambled on for about fifteen seconds saying nothing of significance: "Hey, this is Bob, this is brother Doug. How's goin', eh?" or something to that effect. Someone else may have a complete transcript of the short conversation, but I doubt I'll be able to replay Black Holes backwards again any time soon. -Alex P.S. I've heard that Rush is releasing it's next album (Critical Mass) sometime in September. I can't wait! But I was wondering if anyone knew when they would begin touring. I'll be sure to catch them in Atlanta, or anywhere in the South if can get there. _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ Alex Wang alewang@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 20:17:07 PDT From: johnlee@sirius.UVic.CA (John Lee) Subject: Read Me "I stay awake, gazing into the bleakness of the basement of the Petch Building. Ceiling and floor become one, merging into a single point in the miles of corridor that stretch out ahead of me. The Sun Work- stations, just two solemn humming boxes as they light the Undergraduate Lab. I used to think I had a pretty good life here, just logging into Netrek or reading the XV News postings at the University in the evening. My friend Jon always said it was nicer here under the dehydrating air conditioners of the UNIX labs. We have been able to ftp since last February, when the hardcore fans began to set up 2112 album cover gif files in their window backgrounds, the Red Star of the Solar Federation. The less fortunate gave us a few new gifs. I believed what I was told. I thought it was a good life, I thought I was happy. Then I found something that changed it all..." Anonymous, UVic.CA.uglx.sirius "And the meek shall inherit TMNS subscriptions." Lyrics by Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 22:55:26 -0500 From: jjbaker@iastate.edu Subject: Rush, of course... Ok, just a quik hello as this is my first day on line with you wonderful people...I have one question. Have any of you ever written the band a letter and gotten a reply. Like an authentic reply? I know the chances are extremely slim, so I figured I would ask before trying... Ok now on with my fantasy...... Well, while walking through Lakeside park, on the 24th of May I run into Gedd and Alex. They are in a small subdivision of the park to avoid attention. Neil (Pea-ert) arrives moments latter from his bike ride and then we wget into their red barchetta and cruise away. That night we fly (No pun intended_) to my basement were they give a concert for me and the rest of you. Before the encore, Neil has to pee so he invites me to sit in his guilded cage of Ludwig wonder and play with Ged and Al while he is draining the weasel. After we jam through 2112 and Tom, the band invites all of us to become roadies for the rest of their touring lives which will be about another sisxty years because they have been to Tai Shan and risen their hands. We all live happily ever after. Each of us, a cell of awarness... imperfect and incomplete." ______ P.S.S. if any of you are familier with Isca, my user name is GEDDY LEE. Feel free to X me... ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RUSH COVERS From: richard.morey@factory.com (Richard Morey) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 23:18:00 This is for TNMS.. In response to <cdean@gmuvax.gmu.edu> about favorite album covers - My is definitly Roll The Bones.. By far! A distance second is PeW followed by Presto and Signals.. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 10:58:18 BST From: CP_PWM%CMS.BRISTOL.AC.UK@ib.rl.ac.uk Subject: Dream Theater play Rush at soundchecks. Hi, I was lucky enough to get an interview with the drummer of Dream Theater last week (see the DT list for this in the next few weeks), and that meant I got to watch them all soundchecking. Guess what DT play to do a soundcheck? You got it. Rush stuff! I heard a few mins of 2112 (presentation). It was really quite amazing to see & hear my 2nd-favourite group play stuff from my 1st-favourite group. In the interview, Mike Portnoy also seemed to think Rush's new album would be out in September - I don't know whether being in the biz gives him inside info or not, but every extra source of info about Rush helps.:-) By the way, what's happening about the unmentionable 'project'? Paul may, University of Bristol, UK ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 06:29:05 -0500 From: Gregory Huegerich <bluto@camelot.bradley.edu> Subject: Concert Music and Rush (Limbaugh) Hello Rushians.... I have come up with a novel suggestion for Rush during their next tour. To include a medley at the begining of the show that would consist of covers of other bands' works as a display of superior musicianship. Suggested titles would include Wipeout as good catchy instrumental, a LedZep tune such as Rock and Roll with Alex on lead vocals, and perhaps Brown-eyed Girl with Neil taking a crack at singing. The drum part is simple enough so as not to distract him from doing the vocals, plus it would be cool to hear some other tunes played a-la Rush. Also just in case anyone else was wondering, Rush Limbaugh's e-mail address is as follows... 70277.2502@CompuServe.COM This is a hard to get address because you basically need a subscription to the Limbaugh Letter to get the number.... Later Daze Greg Huegerich ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 07:45 EDT Subject: Donna Lee? Who performed it... From: mike@honet7.att.com! In a previous issue of NMS someone stated that _Donna_Lee_ is a song by the Bird (Charlie Parker). I'm about 99% sure that Donna_Lee is a John Coltrane song... Mike Herlihy ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 09:43:31 -0400 From: Gregg Jaeger <jaeger@buphy.bu.edu> Subject: Rupert c.`83 I just dropped in my copy of Saga's _Heads or Tails_, which I like quite a bit. Turning the CD over I noticed that it was produced by none other than Rupert Hine! This disc seems to have quite the same production feel as "Presto" in fact. Just thought I'd point that out. The guitar playing on the album seems to bear some relation to what Alex was doing on _Signals_ and _Grace Under Pressure_ too. So if you like that period of Rush and are looking for something interesting you might check out this disc. Gregg Gregg Jaeger jaeger@buphy.bu.edu Depts. of Physics and Philosophy, Boston U. "We create the spiritual tools for the technical evolution" -A. Einstein ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 11:50:37 EST From: USUG4%UCONNVM.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu Subject: Rupert Hine(s) Hey- I always thought Rupert Hine was the guy that sang "The Pina Colada Song" in the seventies !!!!! (If you like pina coladas, and gettin' caught in the rain . . . .) seemed strange-- that guy producing a Rush album :> -FSF (working on that upgrade to Lerxst II) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 11:52:23 -0400 From: greg dolce <gdolce@engin.umich.edu> Subject: Presto Fellas, > From what I've seen recently, I guess my opinion of Presto is a rare one. I actually think Presto is the best album RUSH has put out since Signals. I have been a RUSH fan for a long time, and I've always liked their older stuff even though I still enjoy the new stuff. However, ever since GUP came out, I've waited with anticipation for RUSH to go back a little to their older style. Again, that's not to say I don't like the new stuff. However, I believe I actually had to get used to albums such as Power Windows and Hold Your Fire. But the first time I heard Presto, I loved it. Also, about live tempo: I was really disappointed with the way RUSH played Superconductor and Show Don't Tell. They are both great songs, but they just didn't sound right when they were slowed down. That's all for now. Lata. Greg ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 14:17 GMT From: BELGARION <JTAYLOR1@GENVAX.COMPUTER-CENTRE.GLAMORGAN.AC.UK> Subject: Unplugged, boots ... Hi folks !! Unplugged --------- The subject of Rush unplugged keeps croping up, along with various arguments for and against. So here's my opinion; I would love to hear Rush do an unplugged set. Many of their earlier songs have significant accoustic portions, eg: Panacea (COS), Rivendell (FBN)., and would be obvious candidates for an accoustic set, as would _Broons Bane/Trees_, and _Closer to the Heart_. Many of their more famous songs could be accoustised, for example _Spirit of the Radio_, the rhythm part of which sounds brilliant on an accoustic 12-string (the opening riff is a swine to play on a 12-string, but wouldn't pose to much problem on one of the Ovation roundbacks that Alex uses anyway). The point I'm making is for musicians as talented as those in Rush rearranging songs for use in an accoustic environment should prove no problem. The question of the use of electic bass in an unplugged set is not quite as vexed as some are making the issue. Granted I think Geddy might struggle with an upright accoustic *double* bass, but many manufaturers including Ovation are making guitar style electro-accoustic basses anyway, thus solving the problem. Unfortunately I do not see Rush doing an unplugged set - it is far too trendy for a start; and the music they would end up playing would be old material, much of which they seem to be shying away from in the Live environment. Much to my chargain 'cos I wasn't old enough to see those old tours at the time; but who can blame them when you've played a song continually at shows for 10 or 15 years you are likely to get rather cheesed off with them, and move on to pastures new. Bootlegs -------- Which leads me to another topic the question of bootlegs from times past. I appreciate that the NMS doesn't condone Bootlegging for obvious legal reasons - like making bootlegs is illegal, on both sides of the Atlantic. Is there, however, a list of bootlegs that are widely available ?? I couldn't find one when I did an ftp search, maybe I didn't look in the right places! Other than the Pink Pop Festival Concert I mentioned a while ago - which isn't strictly a bootleg but a radio show recording - I have only come across two other bootlegs of Rush in the UK. One says it is from St Louis, USA 1980 - while it is clearly the Perm Wvs tour (they play Natural Science), it is NOT recorded entirely in St Louis since Geddy is heard quite plainly to say something along the lines of "Thank you, Wembley!" at one point. There are however a number of gaps in background noise suggesting it has been cobbled together from more than one show. Despite my copy being at least third generation it is reasonably good quality and must be a desk out take. The only other boot I have seen, but never heard, was a Show of Hands tour outake from the Wembley gigs, and really wasn't worth the money they were asking when SOH itself was available at a cheaper price! I'd be particularly interested to hear from any UK fans who have early Rush boots - mail me please so as not to clogg the NMS with unneccessary clutter. Satanism -------- Talking of clutter the Satanism=Rock lyrics backwards thing seems to be dragging on a bit. We all know that certain ultra conservative christains accuse everyting that dosen't fit with thier ideals of being conected with Satan, so whats new they've been doing it for years ?? Don't let it or them get you down - *we* know we as Rush fans aren't Satanic so its there problem not ours. Secondly satanism is a serious issue in the UK at the moment, sparked off by several incidents of possible satanist conertations to child abuse scandals. Although I make no pretence to be a Christian, Satanism and its followers are evil people, seeking to destroy the world as we know it, and it therefore is inappropriate to joke about it. (Any Ultra Conservative Christians or Satanists wishing to flame about this should do so by Email) MIDI ---- I noted in NMS #665 that someone had noted Alex pressing a foot switch at a time when there was no *apparent* change in his guitar sound, and this coincided to lighting changes. Do Rush change aspects of their own lighting rig? It is quite feasable that i) Alex was infact altering some of his effects units, not all make obvious differences in sound, eg Equiliser set up ii) perhaps he was calling up the next patch he wanted to use. Either way it is quite possible that implementing a change in his guitar rig he could have it linked by MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface) to a lighting control board, so that upon implementing a certain set up the lighting rig changes automatically. I have heard of other big bands such as Pink Floyd doing this, as well as small venue bands in the UK who cannot afford a full time lighting technician. For anyone who knows a bit about modern technology its not really all that difficult to do. All for now, sorry it was at length, but you can always skip the bits you don't want to read. ******************************************************************************* * * * James Taylor * * "For the words of the prophet were written on the studio wall..." * * <jtaylor1@glamorgan.ac.uk> * * * ******************************************************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: General Replies... Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 15:17:05 BST From: Novalis <g_fear@csd.uwe-bristol.ac.uk> Live.. I think that to change a song live, can prove to be very interesting. Check out 'No Surender' by Bruce Springsteen, on the Born in the USA LP it was an uptempo song as opposed to the live 75-85 LP in which the song was slowed right down, and a part of it was changed. I just wish they would play nearer to part part of the country, (South-West England), its a real bummer having to travel a fair distance to see them! Fantasy.. Just to get up there and play guitar along side Alex. We'ere not all bass playing fanitics! Ok, thats enough of my ramblings now, let the show commence! _______________________________________________________________________________ Some Are Born To Move The World - To Live Their Fantasies But Most Of Us Just Dream About The Things We'd Like To Be Sadder Still To Watch It Die, Than Never To Have Known It For You - The Blind Who Once Could See, The Bell Tolls For Thee... (Rush, Signals) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 22 Apr 1993 12:59:41 -0400 (EDT) From: ahung@discover.wright.edu (Son of Reg) Subject: News Flash: Alex kidnapped by 3-headed space aliens! Just kidding! I haven't kidnapped Alex (yet). -I found it extremely interesting to see the wide divergence (college word, like it?) of opinion on Presto. Personally, I think that "The Pass" is full of great lyrics and emotions (besides Geddy said in concert that it's one of their faves) I also love the raw energy of "Superconductor"; the song kicks ass! -To jeffrey r brinkman <brinkmaj@gas.uug.arizona.edu>: I agree completely and utterly with your assessment of Eric Johnson. The man is a guitar deity. If you like "Cliffs of Dover", you might want to check out the live version on a compilation called "Guitar for the Practicing Musician - Volume II" I won't go into praising Eric too much here (as this is the Rush list, not the EJ list). Does anyone know if an Eric Johnson list exists? If so, please mail to me at ahung@discover.wright.edu -As for the vein of discussion about "I like Rush doing this" or "Rush should do this" or "Rush should stop doing this" (you get the idea).... The fact remains that Rush is comprised of friends who are MUSICIANS that will continue to write music that they like. Unlike most bands, they don't write music to please their fans or "get chicks" or "to make the big money, man". They do it because they like it. That's good enough for me. I will continue to look forward to their new music and growth as musicians. 'Nuf said. -As I promised a few posts ago, here is a contact address for the band. I got this address from "The Music Address Book" by Michael Levine (copyright '89). I haven't written to this address (yet), so I can't vouch for its validity. The posted address differs only in zip code from one I saw in back issues of NMS (I think). Here it is: Rush 41 Britain St. (#200) Toronto, ON M5A 1R7 Canada -Have a great day! Art ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 13:32:55 -0400 From: karaffa@scws2.ctstateu.edu (Gabriel Karaffa) Subject: Favorite Groups Poll Hey Everybody, thanks for the mail. If you haven't sent me a list yet, it isn't too late so keep going. You've got until monday morning at 10:00 a.m.. I have a few guidelines that I neglected to mention. 1) Rush will be deleted from any entries, so don't put them in your list. (Rush is #1, that's a given) 2) 3 entries only, So please don't tell me that one of your choices is a tie between 16 different bands, I'll have to take the first band I see. Remember, I want to make this as equitable as possible. The Polling process itself is too subjective, but if entrants follow the rules, we'll get a cool list by next wednesday. Still haven't heard anything about Lindsey Buckingham! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 12:50:32 -0500 From: levyd@simon.wustl.edu Subject: Tidbits Fellow discliples of the fab three- I saw one of the most hillarious things on the sports news last spring training (March 1992). It was channel 5 (NBC in St. Louis) and it was a piece on the Cardinals spring training camp. All of a sudden they were interviewing Bryn Smith who was a pitcher on the team at the time (and Canadian) and Bryn was hanging out with Geddy Lee in Florida!!! It was so funny. Geddy was dressed in a Cardinals uniform complete with mit and hat. This might not ordinarily be so funny if it were not for the fact that Geddy weighs like 100 pounds and the hat barely fit on his hair. (Incidentally, Geddy throws like a girl.) They had a brief interview with Geddy and he told that he was good friends with Bryn Smith and that he likes baseball. Pretty wild, huh? On a different note- how about everyone posting their best Rush Concert stories. Y'know something funny, cool, etc. I have one that's pretty gross. I can vouch for complete validity but I heard that when I was at the Presto Tour at the Meadowlands (yea Jersey!) some kid got so drunk before the show that he passed out in the parking lot. Not only did he miss the whole show (the fool!) but when his friends found him, someone had actually taken a shit on the kid. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! AN yway, keep on keepin' on. Derek Levy -- Washington University in St. Louis-- LEVYD@SIMON.WUSTL.EDU ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 14:51:41 EDT From: Michael <EVK102@URIACC.URI.EDU> Subject: Assorted Stuff Hello, everybody! I hate using the quoter on our mail software, so I apologize for not responding to people by quoting them first. First off, someone mentioned they saw the lights react to Alex pushing a foot pedal. This is not very strange, since modern technology has provided the musical world with MIDI programmable lights. So, therefore, lights can be programmed to move and react to MIDI program changes in another instrument. Alex was probably adding a background note. He does this often: he just hits a note on one of the foot synths and it sustains untill he hits it again, just for background. There has been a lot of talk about Presto. My personal view of Presto is kind of strange. I sort of ignore it until for some reason I put it on for a change, and then I am astounded. (BTW The CD mastering of this album SUCKS. The tape is much warmer and fuller with my sterio equipment.) Actually I like Presto a lot more than RTB. In my opinion the themes of the songs reach me alot more, I feel that more effort was put into the writing, more thought, and I like the textures of it more. I feel that it is considerably darker than RTB, and less accessable to the majority. This was the album that turned me on to Rush. As far as Jeff Ament playing a eight string in the beginning of Jeremy, I think after listening to it that it is actually a regular guitar with a sub-octave pedal and a harmonizer pedal set to an octave above. The high and low notes seem too electronic to be natural to me. Michael ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 17:49:22 EST From: USUG4%UCONNVM.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu Subject: Rush Fantasy The ultimate Rush fantasy just occurred to me . . . "Critical Mass", of course, was just a hoax. After a long delay, Rush releases their first studio double album- Cygnus X-1 Book III, a four - side epic in which Neil Peart finally reveals to us the true meaning of life. The subsequent tour features the Cygnus Trilogy performed in its entirety. ------- Here's to the new album! Floyd "Living in the Past" Foltz ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 18:43:10 EDT From: huffnagl@shark.rutgers.edu (ralph huffnagle) Subject: Alex MIA?/RUSH Fantasy Greetings all, I must preface this by saying it is my first post. I have some questions that I thought someone might know the answer to. I was just wondering why the B-man writes in _Visions_ that Alex is MIA on Losing It. There is obviously guitar in the song. What is meant by this? Also, how come every time I read another bass player analyse a Rush song, such as Billy Sheehnan or T-Bone Wolk, they say that Geddy uses a pick. I've never seen him uses one. Just something that bothers me. My Rush Fanatsy is simple. I want three hours on Neil Peart's drum set, not his current one. Maybe the one from Presto, (the pink one). I don't care if he's there or not. I just want to play on the best drum set in rock n roll. Thank you, RSH "Ladies and gentlemen, the professor on the the drum kit..." ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 22 Apr 93 19:15:08 EDT From: Philip.S.Augur@Dartmouth.EDU (Philip S. Augur) Subject: Box set If Rush ever does a box set to commerate the time they've been together (Chronicles just doesn't cut it IMHO), they could take a pointer or two from Jethro Tull. The 20 Years of Tull box set was simply amazing, second only to: 25 Years of Tull. I spent last night over a friend's listening to the set and reading through the mag. If you get a chance to see it you'll know what I mean. I'd love to see Rush do Tull one better by releasing the ultimate box set. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 17:47:53 -0700 From: hoferj@ucs.orst.edu (Jordan Hofer) Subject: Rush ain't satanic I know that this discussion of Rush being satanic is just a running joke in TNMS, but I've actually met people who believed that crap. There's this right-wing religious nuclear engineering student I know who is convinced that Rush is an acronym for Ruled Under Satan's Hand. I'll concede this much: Rush is THE band for science students and outcast sci-fi nerds, but that doesn't make 'em satanic...just makes them cool. --The Space Monk, Oregon State University ---------------------------------------------------------- From: laurent d nis 92jun18 thomin <f1jtl@leo.unm.edu> Subject: Morse code and Ham radio Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 19:39:43 MDT I've been listening to Rush for 10 years now and I'm still wondering whether Peart would be a radio ham. He played morse code during YYZ and told us about the Spirit of the Radio. Any hints?? 73 de wx3w/5 Laurent E-:-) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 22:17:02 EDT From: swaminathan gangadharan <sgangadh@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu> Subject: Rush and recognition Hi, Yesterday, I received a "Permanent Waves" and I've already listened to it about four times over. Listening to it got me thinking again about an opinion that many of us have discussed in the NMS. The fact that RUSH is grossly underrated and underplayed. I think that Neil Peart himself has (unintentionally, of course) given an answer to the question: Why has'nt RUSH been given the recognition it deserves? I found an answer to this question in the lyrics of the song "Cinderella Man". In this song, the Cinderella man is considered insane because he is moral. The same can be compared to the music of RUSH. Because it is of such a highly quality lyrically and instrumentally, a lot of people may not appreciate it. In addition, RUSH does not have the rebellious or "bad boys" image. This might have unfairly limited its popularity. To put it in a nutshell, most people need not appreciate a good thing when they see it,espe- cially if it is very realistic. At the same time I feel that RUSH gets enough attention from a small group of committed fans who are able to appreciate the effort that goes into creation of their albums. The people who subscribe to NMS are proof that Rush has fans who value their work. I don't think there are mailing lists like this for a lot of other groups. And,IMHO, do we have to look up to something as lacking in quality as MTV to give RUSH the recogniton it deserves. Should it be grouped with the rest of the commercial and popular (IMHO) junk that is played on MTV. MTV can never aspire to reach the standards set by RUSH and I think it will be a very long time before any group can fill the void if RUSH quit. A lot of times I feel like I'm listening to complete trash if I listen to any other group after listening to RUSH (Pink Floyd, Alan Parson's project and Jethro Tull being the exceptions I can list). Does anybody else out there feel the same way? Swami Gangadharan sgangadh@jupiter.cse.utoledo ******************************************************************************* There are those who think that life is nothing left to chance, A host of holy horrors to direct our aimless dance. You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice. If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill; I will choose a path that's clear- I will choose Free Will. -"Freewill", Neil Peart of RUSH ******************************************************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 23:55:13 -0400 From: Alan H Ristow <ristow@engin.umich.edu> Subject: 2112 Jim Stevenson asked if all of 2112 had ever been played live. It seems to me that the whole thing was part of one of the encores they did in Detroit during the Presto tour. I could be wrong -- I just getting into the older stuff at the time -- but my friends were very excited about them having played the *whole* thing. Now I'm really sorry I didn't know the old stuff better back then... As for finding out what states and countries NMS goes to, couldn't you just take a look at the mailing list? Of course, you'd need a way to decipher the internet addresses... And to the person looking for Rush Limbaugh's CompuServe mailbox -- try using the "finger" command on your computer system (assuming you're using some version of UNIX). I've tried to find it for you, but the network connecting me to internet won't recognize compuserve. Alan ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 00:43:51 -0500 From: jjbaker@iastate.edu Subject: MESSAGE Um, Hello fellow Satin worshipers Hi. I'm Kinda drunk right now and I was just listening to a 1980 live version of By-tor and the snowdog and its ausome. It was recorded in Saint Louis and then broadcast on FM radio. If any of you have this then I think you know what I mean when I say that this has to be the BEST version of By and snow ever recorded. Ged just simply rocks during this recording. I was just thinking... We all know from the wonderful information contained in Visions that Neils real name is Rotyb, (His father was of Russian dissent...) so when we say Rotyb backwards we get Bytor. This leads to one logical conclution... Neil is Bytor. So, By-tor, being the Devil's prince and all, must mean that Neil, or should I say Bytors father must be satan. I know this is confusing, but I felt that all of you should know this important info... I would like to say one last thing... Snowdog said backwards every other letter is Gdos. Everybody knows that Ged's real name is Gdos... So Ged is really God. His birth cirtificate says so, but the middle part of the "o" on the cirtificate has a piece of lint on it so it looks like an "e"... Godbye ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Digest #666 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 7:34:23 GMT From: Dominic Binks <binks@compsci.bristol.ac.uk> Digest #666 really made me laugh, especially the guy with his cat. Also Patricai Evans synopsis of HYF was excellent - more believable than any of the explanations given by those type of Christians who investigate this kind of thing. But then I suppose Patricia Evans is a follower like the rest of and understands the deep significance in the words :-) Seriously guys I guess it just shows us how careful we must be when interpreting lyrics. Dominic Binks binks@uk.ac.bris.cs ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 07:48:23 EDT From: u6x22@crcws4.bgm.link.com (Chris Bush) Subject: 666 issue Imagine my dismay to find out that my "revelation" about hidden messages and interesting numerology in Rush history was not included in the special 666 issue of NMS. Could be it was intercepted by evil daemons invading the Internet trying to prevent the truth from being exposed, thus inviting an invasion by the FBI or ATF? Good issue, we apparently have some active imaginations out there (or people with no life?). Worship on... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 10:58:09 -0400 From: vhalen@acs.bu.edu (Brian Zive) Subject: 666-I laughed, I cried... To all those who posted in NMS #666: Thanks for a great issue. It was better than _Cats_. ----------------------------------------------------------
To submit material to The National Midnight Star, send mail to: rush@syrinx.umd.edu For administrative matters (subscription, unsubscription, changes, and questions), send mail to: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu or rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu There is now anonymous ftp access available on Syrinx. The network address to ftp to is: syrinx.umd.edu or 129.2.8.114 When you've connected, userid is "anonymous", password is <your userid>. Once you've successfully logged on, change directory (cd) to 'rush'. There is also a mail server available (for those unable or unwilling to ftp). For more info, send email with the subject line of HELP to: server@ingr.com These requests are processed nightly. Use a subject line of MESSAGE to send a note to the server keeper or to deposit a file into the archive. The contents of The National Midnight Star are solely the opinions and comments of the individual authors, and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the authors' management, or the mailing list management. Copyright The Rush Fans Mailing List, 1993. Editor, The National Midnight Star (Rush Fans Mailing List) ******************************************** End of The National Midnight Star Number 667 ******************************************** From temples@syrinx.umd.edu Sun Apr 25 21:52:04 1993 Return-Path: <temples@syrinx.umd.edu> Received: from syrinx.umd.edu by dsys.ncsl.nist.gov (4.1/NIST-dsys) id AA20078; Sun, 25 Apr 93 21:52:01 EDT Received: by syrinx.umd.edu (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA15110; Fri, 23 Apr 93 18:30:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 18:30:07 -0400 Message-Id: <9304232230.AA15110@syrinx.umd.edu> Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu Subject: 04/23/93 - The National Midnight Star #667 Status: R
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The text within the lyrics Rush for lunch Notes on NMS #664 Apartment hunting in Florida fretless In Defence of Presto ASOH on LASERDISC and NEW WORLD MAN PARODY Rush fantasyy Wal's on PoW... to Belgarion Speeding wheels...or guitars (none) Coinciding dates Rush live The McKenzie brothers Read Me Rush, of course... RUSH COVERS Dream Theater play Rush at soundchecks. Concert Music and Rush (Limbaugh) Donna Lee? Who performed it... Rupert c.`83 Rupert Hine(s) Presto Unplugged, boots ... General Replies... News Flash: Alex kidnapped by 3-headed space aliens! Favorite Groups Poll Tidbits Assorted Stuff Rush Fantasy Alex MIA?/RUSH Fantasy Box set Rush ain't satanic Morse code and Ham radio Rush and recognition 2112 MESSAGE Digest #666 666 issue 666-I laughed, I cried... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager) Date: Fri Apr 23 15:48:41 EDT 1993 Subject: Administrivia Thanks to all who contributed to the "Satanic Edition" of the digest, it was great! And some posts that people sent in just came in too late to make that issue, so if you didn't see yours in the digest that's probably why. This issue should catch up all the posts that have been waiting to be sent out. - rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 20 Apr 1993 04:02:34 -0400 (EDT) From: DP2784%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Subject: p/g solos Hey there all... A few weeks ago someone said something (I think!) about one of the guitar solos on p/g that was recorded backwards. What song was this in? Muchos Gracias, Dan "Albany Sucks" Pisacano ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 11:03 MDT Subject: Rivendel From: mspring@hvlpa.att.com! Rushia, All this unplugged talking reminded me of THE unplugged song by Rush: Rivendel (just MHO). I think that the acoustic guitar is played by Geddy, not by Alex. On the album it says under geddy's name (something like) Bass Guitar, Occasional Acoustic Guitar and Vocals. Since Geddy wrote the song with Neil I think Geddy plays the Acoustic Guitar. You can hear Alex play some synth-like notes on the electric guitar and I also think that if Alex would have played it a little bit more complex than the current version by Geddy (if this is true ofcourse). I donot hope this is a FAQ (the last time I read it was quite a while ago, I wasn't even subscribed then) but if its not I'd like to see this dis- cussed. Oh BTW if there is anybody out there that has info on RTB on vinyl. pleasepleaaseplease let me know it too. I dont have a CD player and I have alll the Rush album except RTB :^( This is off ocurse not acceptable for any Rush-aholic. CU Mark mspring@hvlpa.att.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Clearing up the Confusion about "Anagram" Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 09:58:50 EDT From: cvander@eos.ncsu.edu Greetings from the Sundog! Guess you could say I'm a long time listener, first time caller. I think this Satanic discussion is going to people's heads: Message to Andy C...The song Anagram, especially that chorus line, has NOTHING to do with satanic ideas. If you'll take a good look at all the lyrics, every(or almost every) line uses a certain word(s), then changes the letters around to create a new word, which is then used to complete the line. This is the whole meaning of "anagram" and it's used with ferocious cleverness by NP (no surprise there.) Hope that ends that satanic sidetrack. Well, I enjoyed getting that off my brain. P.S. To all Yankees fans...Red Sox 10w,3l (who would have thunk it) Signing Off [_.___.____.._.___.____.._] ---------------------------------------------------------- From: alecren@cs.umr.edu Subject: Subdivisions Video. Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 20:01:55 CDT If this question should have gone in the faq I applogize but I didnt see it covered in there. Does anyone know what city that is used for the subdivisions video? I have heard that it is Los Angeles but it seems too small. One last quick thing. Has anyone recently tried to buy Neil Peart signature sticks? I put in an order over 3 weeks ago and they told me that the warehouse was out of them. Apparentally they dont keep them in stock. I am wondering...did Neil only put out a limited amount? Thanks. Starfox -- Starfox | "Now is the time turn the tide, | Now is the time to fight." Andrew LeCren | -- Neil Peart alecren@cs.umr.edu | s112235@umrvma.umr.edu | "If you choose not to decide, | you still have made a choice." | -- Neil Peart ---------------------------------------------------------- From: oversoul@aol.com Subject: The text within the lyrics Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 21:22:47 EDT Hy, A matter of curiosity, are the text passages within the lyrics to 2112, in the lyrics directory of syrix the work of Peart, or are they the clever addition of the person who put the lyrics there? [ These text passages appear inside the original album liner notes, they were not 'added' by the person who put the lyrics on syrinx. : rush-mgr ] latta, Haplo ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 00:25:09 -0500 From: Jeremy Todd Strzynski <jtstrzyn@cherry.wustl.edu> Subject: Rush for lunch i'm telling you this pathetic story because the NMS is the only place where i can find sympathetic ears. today at noontime i was listening to robert johnson (truly amazing music for those of you interested) when i called up a friend to see about lunch. we agreed to meet in five minutes. so i took out the cd i had in, and as i usually do, i checked to see what was on the radio. during the noontime hour, KSHE (a st. louis station mentioned on the NMS before) plays an artist for lunch, and then one for dessert, which means they play one artist or group for forty minutes, and then another for the remaining twenty. thus i turned the station to KSHE to see who was for lunch--this was at about 12:06, right at the beginning. for those of you who have difficulty anticipating obvious plots and who also failed to look at the subject of this post, i found myself in the middle of the "Working Man" jam. i also caught the first verse of RTB, but i had to go eat. i missed forty minutes of Rush. i tried to console myself thinking that i have all of the songs they'd have played on disc anyway, but let's be honest, it's always best to hear your favorite group on the radio, even if it is only "normal" Rush. thank you for listening. i feel much better now. jeremy some are born to move the world to live their fantasies but most of us just dream about the things we'd like to be sadder still to watch it die than never to have known it for you the blind who once could see, the bell tolls for thee ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Notes on NMS #664 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 10:10:11 EDT From: cvander@eos.ncsu.edu TO: jenkinsp@kenyon.edu ---re: > I was just wondering what all of you think about the album Presto. > A lot of my friends that love Rush seem to be a little down on it, > but I think it's one of their best. Not to worry, my friend. IMO, Presto was the best album Rush put forth since Moving Pictures. It was refreshing blast of musical energy. The boys seemed to be really enjoying themselves once again and almost every song gets me singing. My only complaints about Presto are---1) the complete lack of presence of Geddy's bass and 2) the album cover. Let's see what others think... TO: Redpaco... So, you're making a move to the land of the Blue Devil. Well, ma'am (as the gentlemen say in the South), be prepared for a welcome culture shock. I'm a Durham resident (my wife's a nurse at Duke). You'll be happy to know that most of the stereotypes are untrue in the RDU area. Many of us are trans- plants from up North who have come for work (VERY LOW unemployment rate here). You won't find the exceptional variety of Bahston, but you get an abundance of nightlife, sports, and culture at a more relaxed pace. Oh, and just to keep this message barely RUSH related, WRDU 106.1 usually plays only the standard fare plus too much Southern rock. If you want to know more, E-mail me at my address. the sundog P.S. Red Sox 11 W , 3 L (Has the Curse of the Bambino finally been lifted??) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 13:07:07 MST From: Scott Raby <SRABY@NMSUVM1.NMSU.EDU> Subject: Apartment hunting in Florida Rush-mgr sorry for the non-rush content of this. Does anyone live in the Titusville area of Florida? and if so, can you contact me? I am looking for a place to live there for the summer and am having little luck in doing so. Thanks Scott sraby@nmsuvm1 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: bsanant@uclink.berkeley.edu (Birjinder Singh Anant) Subject: fretless Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 13:37:39 PDT Hello, i don't know if anyone said this yet, but i'm pretty sure a fretless bass was used on Pink Floyd's "Hey You", and according to David Gilmour he played it, instead of Roger Waters. Also, Chris Maka wrote about how he hasn't seen many non-white, non-hispanic Rush fans. I'm from Texas also(and i'm Indian), and I know people from all different backgrounds that like Rush in Texas. Here in the Bay Area, i've seen a lot of Indians with Rush shirts on, and i've noticed quite a few Indian names on the NMS. Bye, Birjinder ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 11:40:17 +1200 From: Martin.Phillipson@vuw.ac.nz Subject: In Defence of Presto Hi First of all thanks for correcting the Jaco tune title, sorry about that. Secondly, and more importantly I think Presto is one of the bands best albums. When it first came out i thought it was a real improvement on HYF which I think is one of the boys lamest (but of course lame in regards to Rush is a relative term). In particular I loved the intro to Show Don't Tell (still one of my favourite Rush songs) Just my $0.02!!! Greetings from New Zealand Martin ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 19:46:28 -0400 From: Christopher Mermagen <cmermag@wam.umd.edu> Subject: ASOH on LASERDISC and NEW WORLD MAN PARODY I can't remember who wrote these (Chris and Clator??) anyway ASOH on laser - Yes, it is out and my friend has it.. As a matter of fact, they add a bonus song to it- Lock and Key live.. It is really cool. I couldn't believe it the first time we watched it. It has like a 30sec intro on the rear vid screen of this wierd guy in jail talking (like the clips from the video).. really cool. A must have for you laser disc owners.. New World Man Parody - Yeah, they played it down hear in Baltimore as well on 98 rock.. "He's a wayne's world man.." Pretty funny. I was wondering when they would do a parody of a Rush song.. I've heard lots of other artists.. like AC/DC (PMS instead of TNT).. :) anyway, take it easy Chris ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Apr 1993 19:01:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Let me slip into something more neurotic..." <TBEAUDOIN@VAX1.UMKC.EDU> Subject: Rush fantasyy Here is my Rush fantasy: The setting is Fantasy Island. I approach the island in the Love Boat, with Captain Stuebing at the helm and the Blessed Virgin Mary as yeoman purser, because Gopher is away for the weekend. Anyway, we pull up to Fantasy Island, and I get off the boat. I approach the palm trees and see the lighted bamboo poles to welcome the new guests. Suddenly I notice Alex as Ricardo Montalbon saying "Welcome, welcome to Fantasy Island" and who should be running up to his side but Neil Peart as (short as) Herve Villachez, shouting "the plane! the plane!" Geddy begins to dance in a grass skirt around the lighted bamboo poles. Whoops -- sorry.. That is my Rush Nightmare. Thomas ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 20:05:41 -0400 From: Christopher Mermagen <cmermag@wam.umd.edu> Subject: Wal's on PoW... to Belgarion Hey man... Cool name, btw- good books as well.. maybe I'll change my name to Silk?? Anyway, I _think_ that I can hear the difference between p/g and PoW. I think that you can readily hear the difference on the following 2 songs.. Marathon vs. Distant Early Warning.. more later- Chris ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 20:26:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason James Haas <jh72+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Speeding wheels...or guitars As for the tempo of songs changing, I distinctly remember the Pittsburgh concert for RTB. In their encore, the Boys played Spirit of Radio and Finding My Way at blazing speed. It was much faster than the songs off the original and live albums. It still sounded good, of course... :-) I haven't the slightest idea why, but maybe they had the buses warmed up and were late for a date????? Good luck in your Rush endeavors. Hoser ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 20:33:43 EST From: bremerdx@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (David Bremer) For all those Neil fans out there, did you know that Neil origionally began playing traditional grip. From day one, he learned all of the rudiments using traditional grip, playing on a pillow (a good technique to build wrist strength). When he switched to matched grip, he decided that he wasen't going to learn all of the rudiments again with this new grip. That's why, on some of the songs, Neil can be seen playing traditional grip. Neil is awsome, but I still think that "The Man" Dave Weckl is the greatist! -"the Firebird" Three-peat PENS!!!! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 20:42:16 CDT From: UC512052@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu Subject: Coinciding dates Someone on #665 commented that RtB was released on his 19th birthday. Cool! Rush played in my hometown on my 21st birthday during the Presto tour. Loads better than getting loaded! David ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 21:00:50 -0500 From: jtstrzyn@papaya.wustl.edu (Jeremy Todd Strzynski ) Subject: Rush live in NMS 665, someone ended a post by saying that Rush is best live and that no other band comes close. I agree with the first part, but i don't agree with the second part. certainly we'd all agree that Rush is among the best bands ever in terms of musical ability, and i personally believe that there is no other band out there with even close to the amount of talent that Geddy, Neil, and Alex have between them. But they don't use all of it. as an example i'll use phish. my roommate is a big phish fan, and has gotten me to go to the two st. louis shows this year, and i can say from experience that phish concerts are insane. even though i'm not too familiar with their discography, i can think of only two or three songs that they played at both shows, and you must keep in mind that each show was almost three hours of music. phish has oodles of material (and yes, "oodles" actually is a scientific unit of measurement, commonly understood to mean "17") that don't appear on any album, and likely will never be released officially. the reason their shows are so insane is that they jam--they'll take a song, and play it for about 13 minutes. then they'll take another song and play it for 10 minutes. then they'll do something weird like throw beachballs into the audience, but i digress. and, as far as i know, NEVER plan out a show until the day of--maybe not even until the show itself. Rush does not do this, and i think their shows, which are already incredible (and better than phish shows IMHO, even with what i've been writing), would improve ten-fold. imagine going to two shows, and hearing maybe four songs of overlap (CttH, Tom Sawyer, etc...), but hearing completely different stuff otherwise. or imagine Alex deciding to do Broon's Bane, but having it last 5 minutes before they go on and play The Trees for 10. Rush would ROCK so hard if they did their shows like this--they'd take about the best show around and leave all others behind. let's be honest--if you name a band with a better guitarist than Alex, Geddy and Neil will leavthere is no band playing today that has even close to the talent of Rush. there should be no concert out there even close to as good as Rush's. now, please don't take my post as one long flame. i love Rush as much as anyone, and will go to their shows as long as they keep playing (a long time, God willing). but I want to see Rush play. I go to their shows primarily to see them perform--i really could care less what they play, even though in all honesty their songs are what's best suited for them to play. so i guess what i'm saying is, for how amazing Rush is, they could be better, as hard as it is to believe. long live Rush, jeremy some are born to move the world to live their fantasies but most of us just dream about the things we'd like to be sadder still to watch it die than never to have known it for you the blind who once could see, the bell tolls for thee ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 23:04:42 -0400 From: alewang@unix.cc.emory.edu (Alex Wang) Subject: The McKenzie brothers This is a short blurb for John Lee (johnlee@sirius.uvic.ca) and anybody else out there who's been wondering about Black Holes on the _Great White North Album_. It took me about for two years before I found someone who had the equipment to play that part of the album backwards via a digitized sound board. Anyways, I'm sorry I don't remember the exact words, but the two just rambled on for about fifteen seconds saying nothing of significance: "Hey, this is Bob, this is brother Doug. How's goin', eh?" or something to that effect. Someone else may have a complete transcript of the short conversation, but I doubt I'll be able to replay Black Holes backwards again any time soon. -Alex P.S. I've heard that Rush is releasing it's next album (Critical Mass) sometime in September. I can't wait! But I was wondering if anyone knew when they would begin touring. I'll be sure to catch them in Atlanta, or anywhere in the South if can get there. _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ Alex Wang alewang@emory.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 20:17:07 PDT From: johnlee@sirius.UVic.CA (John Lee) Subject: Read Me "I stay awake, gazing into the bleakness of the basement of the Petch Building. Ceiling and floor become one, merging into a single point in the miles of corridor that stretch out ahead of me. The Sun Work- stations, just two solemn humming boxes as they light the Undergraduate Lab. I used to think I had a pretty good life here, just logging into Netrek or reading the XV News postings at the University in the evening. My friend Jon always said it was nicer here under the dehydrating air conditioners of the UNIX labs. We have been able to ftp since last February, when the hardcore fans began to set up 2112 album cover gif files in their window backgrounds, the Red Star of the Solar Federation. The less fortunate gave us a few new gifs. I believed what I was told. I thought it was a good life, I thought I was happy. Then I found something that changed it all..." Anonymous, UVic.CA.uglx.sirius "And the meek shall inherit TMNS subscriptions." Lyrics by Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 22:55:26 -0500 From: jjbaker@iastate.edu Subject: Rush, of course... Ok, just a quik hello as this is my first day on line with you wonderful people...I have one question. Have any of you ever written the band a letter and gotten a reply. Like an authentic reply? I know the chances are extremely slim, so I figured I would ask before trying... Ok now on with my fantasy...... Well, while walking through Lakeside park, on the 24th of May I run into Gedd and Alex. They are in a small subdivision of the park to avoid attention. Neil (Pea-ert) arrives moments latter from his bike ride and then we wget into their red barchetta and cruise away. That night we fly (No pun intended_) to my basement were they give a concert for me and the rest of you. Before the encore, Neil has to pee so he invites me to sit in his guilded cage of Ludwig wonder and play with Ged and Al while he is draining the weasel. After we jam through 2112 and Tom, the band invites all of us to become roadies for the rest of their touring lives which will be about another sisxty years because they have been to Tai Shan and risen their hands. We all live happily ever after. Each of us, a cell of awarness... imperfect and incomplete." ______ P.S.S. if any of you are familier with Isca, my user name is GEDDY LEE. Feel free to X me... ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RUSH COVERS From: richard.morey@factory.com (Richard Morey) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 23:18:00 This is for TNMS.. In response to <cdean@gmuvax.gmu.edu> about favorite album covers - My is definitly Roll The Bones.. By far! A distance second is PeW followed by Presto and Signals.. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 10:58:18 BST From: CP_PWM%CMS.BRISTOL.AC.UK@ib.rl.ac.uk Subject: Dream Theater play Rush at soundchecks. Hi, I was lucky enough to get an interview with the drummer of Dream Theater last week (see the DT list for this in the next few weeks), and that meant I got to watch them all soundchecking. Guess what DT play to do a soundcheck? You got it. Rush stuff! I heard a few mins of 2112 (presentation). It was really quite amazing to see & hear my 2nd-favourite group play stuff from my 1st-favourite group. In the interview, Mike Portnoy also seemed to think Rush's new album would be out in September - I don't know whether being in the biz gives him inside info or not, but every extra source of info about Rush helps.:-) By the way, what's happening about the unmentionable 'project'? Paul may, University of Bristol, UK ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 06:29:05 -0500 From: Gregory Huegerich <bluto@camelot.bradley.edu> Subject: Concert Music and Rush (Limbaugh) Hello Rushians.... I have come up with a novel suggestion for Rush during their next tour. To include a medley at the begining of the show that would consist of covers of other bands' works as a display of superior musicianship. Suggested titles would include Wipeout as good catchy instrumental, a LedZep tune such as Rock and Roll with Alex on lead vocals, and perhaps Brown-eyed Girl with Neil taking a crack at singing. The drum part is simple enough so as not to distract him from doing the vocals, plus it would be cool to hear some other tunes played a-la Rush. Also just in case anyone else was wondering, Rush Limbaugh's e-mail address is as follows... 70277.2502@CompuServe.COM This is a hard to get address because you basically need a subscription to the Limbaugh Letter to get the number.... Later Daze Greg Huegerich ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 07:45 EDT Subject: Donna Lee? Who performed it... From: mike@honet7.att.com! In a previous issue of NMS someone stated that _Donna_Lee_ is a song by the Bird (Charlie Parker). I'm about 99% sure that Donna_Lee is a John Coltrane song... Mike Herlihy ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 09:43:31 -0400 From: Gregg Jaeger <jaeger@buphy.bu.edu> Subject: Rupert c.`83 I just dropped in my copy of Saga's _Heads or Tails_, which I like quite a bit. Turning the CD over I noticed that it was produced by none other than Rupert Hine! This disc seems to have quite the same production feel as "Presto" in fact. Just thought I'd point that out. The guitar playing on the album seems to bear some relation to what Alex was doing on _Signals_ and _Grace Under Pressure_ too. So if you like that period of Rush and are looking for something interesting you might check out this disc. Gregg Gregg Jaeger jaeger@buphy.bu.edu Depts. of Physics and Philosophy, Boston U. "We create the spiritual tools for the technical evolution" -A. Einstein ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 11:50:37 EST From: USUG4%UCONNVM.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu Subject: Rupert Hine(s) Hey- I always thought Rupert Hine was the guy that sang "The Pina Colada Song" in the seventies !!!!! (If you like pina coladas, and gettin' caught in the rain . . . .) seemed strange-- that guy producing a Rush album :> -FSF (working on that upgrade to Lerxst II) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 11:52:23 -0400 From: greg dolce <gdolce@engin.umich.edu> Subject: Presto Fellas, > From what I've seen recently, I guess my opinion of Presto is a rare one. I actually think Presto is the best album RUSH has put out since Signals. I have been a RUSH fan for a long time, and I've always liked their older stuff even though I still enjoy the new stuff. However, ever since GUP came out, I've waited with anticipation for RUSH to go back a little to their older style. Again, that's not to say I don't like the new stuff. However, I believe I actually had to get used to albums such as Power Windows and Hold Your Fire. But the first time I heard Presto, I loved it. Also, about live tempo: I was really disappointed with the way RUSH played Superconductor and Show Don't Tell. They are both great songs, but they just didn't sound right when they were slowed down. That's all for now. Lata. Greg ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 14:17 GMT From: BELGARION <JTAYLOR1@GENVAX.COMPUTER-CENTRE.GLAMORGAN.AC.UK> Subject: Unplugged, boots ... Hi folks !! Unplugged --------- The subject of Rush unplugged keeps croping up, along with various arguments for and against. So here's my opinion; I would love to hear Rush do an unplugged set. Many of their earlier songs have significant accoustic portions, eg: Panacea (COS), Rivendell (FBN)., and would be obvious candidates for an accoustic set, as would _Broons Bane/Trees_, and _Closer to the Heart_. Many of their more famous songs could be accoustised, for example _Spirit of the Radio_, the rhythm part of which sounds brilliant on an accoustic 12-string (the opening riff is a swine to play on a 12-string, but wouldn't pose to much problem on one of the Ovation roundbacks that Alex uses anyway). The point I'm making is for musicians as talented as those in Rush rearranging songs for use in an accoustic environment should prove no problem. The question of the use of electic bass in an unplugged set is not quite as vexed as some are making the issue. Granted I think Geddy might struggle with an upright accoustic *double* bass, but many manufaturers including Ovation are making guitar style electro-accoustic basses anyway, thus solving the problem. Unfortunately I do not see Rush doing an unplugged set - it is far too trendy for a start; and the music they would end up playing would be old material, much of which they seem to be shying away from in the Live environment. Much to my chargain 'cos I wasn't old enough to see those old tours at the time; but who can blame them when you've played a song continually at shows for 10 or 15 years you are likely to get rather cheesed off with them, and move on to pastures new. Bootlegs -------- Which leads me to another topic the question of bootlegs from times past. I appreciate that the NMS doesn't condone Bootlegging for obvious legal reasons - like making bootlegs is illegal, on both sides of the Atlantic. Is there, however, a list of bootlegs that are widely available ?? I couldn't find one when I did an ftp search, maybe I didn't look in the right places! Other than the Pink Pop Festival Concert I mentioned a while ago - which isn't strictly a bootleg but a radio show recording - I have only come across two other bootlegs of Rush in the UK. One says it is from St Louis, USA 1980 - while it is clearly the Perm Wvs tour (they play Natural Science), it is NOT recorded entirely in St Louis since Geddy is heard quite plainly to say something along the lines of "Thank you, Wembley!" at one point. There are however a number of gaps in background noise suggesting it has been cobbled together from more than one show. Despite my copy being at least third generation it is reasonably good quality and must be a desk out take. The only other boot I have seen, but never heard, was a Show of Hands tour outake from the Wembley gigs, and really wasn't worth the money they were asking when SOH itself was available at a cheaper price! I'd be particularly interested to hear from any UK fans who have early Rush boots - mail me please so as not to clogg the NMS with unneccessary clutter. Satanism -------- Talking of clutter the Satanism=Rock lyrics backwards thing seems to be dragging on a bit. We all know that certain ultra conservative christains accuse everyting that dosen't fit with thier ideals of being conected with Satan, so whats new they've been doing it for years ?? Don't let it or them get you down - *we* know we as Rush fans aren't Satanic so its there problem not ours. Secondly satanism is a serious issue in the UK at the moment, sparked off by several incidents of possible satanist conertations to child abuse scandals. Although I make no pretence to be a Christian, Satanism and its followers are evil people, seeking to destroy the world as we know it, and it therefore is inappropriate to joke about it. (Any Ultra Conservative Christians or Satanists wishing to flame about this should do so by Email) MIDI ---- I noted in NMS #665 that someone had noted Alex pressing a foot switch at a time when there was no *apparent* change in his guitar sound, and this coincided to lighting changes. Do Rush change aspects of their own lighting rig? It is quite feasable that i) Alex was infact altering some of his effects units, not all make obvious differences in sound, eg Equiliser set up ii) perhaps he was calling up the next patch he wanted to use. Either way it is quite possible that implementing a change in his guitar rig he could have it linked by MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface) to a lighting control board, so that upon implementing a certain set up the lighting rig changes automatically. I have heard of other big bands such as Pink Floyd doing this, as well as small venue bands in the UK who cannot afford a full time lighting technician. For anyone who knows a bit about modern technology its not really all that difficult to do. All for now, sorry it was at length, but you can always skip the bits you don't want to read. ******************************************************************************* * * * James Taylor * * "For the words of the prophet were written on the studio wall..." * * <jtaylor1@glamorgan.ac.uk> * * * ******************************************************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: General Replies... Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 15:17:05 BST From: Novalis <g_fear@csd.uwe-bristol.ac.uk> Live.. I think that to change a song live, can prove to be very interesting. Check out 'No Surender' by Bruce Springsteen, on the Born in the USA LP it was an uptempo song as opposed to the live 75-85 LP in which the song was slowed right down, and a part of it was changed. I just wish they would play nearer to part part of the country, (South-West England), its a real bummer having to travel a fair distance to see them! Fantasy.. Just to get up there and play guitar along side Alex. We'ere not all bass playing fanitics! Ok, thats enough of my ramblings now, let the show commence! _______________________________________________________________________________ Some Are Born To Move The World - To Live Their Fantasies But Most Of Us Just Dream About The Things We'd Like To Be Sadder Still To Watch It Die, Than Never To Have Known It For You - The Blind Who Once Could See, The Bell Tolls For Thee... (Rush, Signals) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 22 Apr 1993 12:59:41 -0400 (EDT) From: ahung@discover.wright.edu (Son of Reg) Subject: News Flash: Alex kidnapped by 3-headed space aliens! Just kidding! I haven't kidnapped Alex (yet). -I found it extremely interesting to see the wide divergence (college word, like it?) of opinion on Presto. Personally, I think that "The Pass" is full of great lyrics and emotions (besides Geddy said in concert that it's one of their faves) I also love the raw energy of "Superconductor"; the song kicks ass! -To jeffrey r brinkman <brinkmaj@gas.uug.arizona.edu>: I agree completely and utterly with your assessment of Eric Johnson. The man is a guitar deity. If you like "Cliffs of Dover", you might want to check out the live version on a compilation called "Guitar for the Practicing Musician - Volume II" I won't go into praising Eric too much here (as this is the Rush list, not the EJ list). Does anyone know if an Eric Johnson list exists? If so, please mail to me at ahung@discover.wright.edu -As for the vein of discussion about "I like Rush doing this" or "Rush should do this" or "Rush should stop doing this" (you get the idea).... The fact remains that Rush is comprised of friends who are MUSICIANS that will continue to write music that they like. Unlike most bands, they don't write music to please their fans or "get chicks" or "to make the big money, man". They do it because they like it. That's good enough for me. I will continue to look forward to their new music and growth as musicians. 'Nuf said. -As I promised a few posts ago, here is a contact address for the band. I got this address from "The Music Address Book" by Michael Levine (copyright '89). I haven't written to this address (yet), so I can't vouch for its validity. The posted address differs only in zip code from one I saw in back issues of NMS (I think). Here it is: Rush 41 Britain St. (#200) Toronto, ON M5A 1R7 Canada -Have a great day! Art ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 13:32:55 -0400 From: karaffa@scws2.ctstateu.edu (Gabriel Karaffa) Subject: Favorite Groups Poll Hey Everybody, thanks for the mail. If you haven't sent me a list yet, it isn't too late so keep going. You've got until monday morning at 10:00 a.m.. I have a few guidelines that I neglected to mention. 1) Rush will be deleted from any entries, so don't put them in your list. (Rush is #1, that's a given) 2) 3 entries only, So please don't tell me that one of your choices is a tie between 16 different bands, I'll have to take the first band I see. Remember, I want to make this as equitable as possible. The Polling process itself is too subjective, but if entrants follow the rules, we'll get a cool list by next wednesday. Still haven't heard anything about Lindsey Buckingham! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 12:50:32 -0500 From: levyd@simon.wustl.edu Subject: Tidbits Fellow discliples of the fab three- I saw one of the most hillarious things on the sports news last spring training (March 1992). It was channel 5 (NBC in St. Louis) and it was a piece on the Cardinals spring training camp. All of a sudden they were interviewing Bryn Smith who was a pitcher on the team at the time (and Canadian) and Bryn was hanging out with Geddy Lee in Florida!!! It was so funny. Geddy was dressed in a Cardinals uniform complete with mit and hat. This might not ordinarily be so funny if it were not for the fact that Geddy weighs like 100 pounds and the hat barely fit on his hair. (Incidentally, Geddy throws like a girl.) They had a brief interview with Geddy and he told that he was good friends with Bryn Smith and that he likes baseball. Pretty wild, huh? On a different note- how about everyone posting their best Rush Concert stories. Y'know something funny, cool, etc. I have one that's pretty gross. I can vouch for complete validity but I heard that when I was at the Presto Tour at the Meadowlands (yea Jersey!) some kid got so drunk before the show that he passed out in the parking lot. Not only did he miss the whole show (the fool!) but when his friends found him, someone had actually taken a shit on the kid. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! AN yway, keep on keepin' on. Derek Levy -- Washington University in St. Louis-- LEVYD@SIMON.WUSTL.EDU ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 14:51:41 EDT From: Michael <EVK102@URIACC.URI.EDU> Subject: Assorted Stuff Hello, everybody! I hate using the quoter on our mail software, so I apologize for not responding to people by quoting them first. First off, someone mentioned they saw the lights react to Alex pushing a foot pedal. This is not very strange, since modern technology has provided the musical world with MIDI programmable lights. So, therefore, lights can be programmed to move and react to MIDI program changes in another instrument. Alex was probably adding a background note. He does this often: he just hits a note on one of the foot synths and it sustains untill he hits it again, just for background. There has been a lot of talk about Presto. My personal view of Presto is kind of strange. I sort of ignore it until for some reason I put it on for a change, and then I am astounded. (BTW The CD mastering of this album SUCKS. The tape is much warmer and fuller with my sterio equipment.) Actually I like Presto a lot more than RTB. In my opinion the themes of the songs reach me alot more, I feel that more effort was put into the writing, more thought, and I like the textures of it more. I feel that it is considerably darker than RTB, and less accessable to the majority. This was the album that turned me on to Rush. As far as Jeff Ament playing a eight string in the beginning of Jeremy, I think after listening to it that it is actually a regular guitar with a sub-octave pedal and a harmonizer pedal set to an octave above. The high and low notes seem too electronic to be natural to me. Michael ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 17:49:22 EST From: USUG4%UCONNVM.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu Subject: Rush Fantasy The ultimate Rush fantasy just occurred to me . . . "Critical Mass", of course, was just a hoax. After a long delay, Rush releases their first studio double album- Cygnus X-1 Book III, a four - side epic in which Neil Peart finally reveals to us the true meaning of life. The subsequent tour features the Cygnus Trilogy performed in its entirety. ------- Here's to the new album! Floyd "Living in the Past" Foltz ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 18:43:10 EDT From: huffnagl@shark.rutgers.edu (ralph huffnagle) Subject: Alex MIA?/RUSH Fantasy Greetings all, I must preface this by saying it is my first post. I have some questions that I thought someone might know the answer to. I was just wondering why the B-man writes in _Visions_ that Alex is MIA on Losing It. There is obviously guitar in the song. What is meant by this? Also, how come every time I read another bass player analyse a Rush song, such as Billy Sheehnan or T-Bone Wolk, they say that Geddy uses a pick. I've never seen him uses one. Just something that bothers me. My Rush Fanatsy is simple. I want three hours on Neil Peart's drum set, not his current one. Maybe the one from Presto, (the pink one). I don't care if he's there or not. I just want to play on the best drum set in rock n roll. Thank you, RSH "Ladies and gentlemen, the professor on the the drum kit..." ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 22 Apr 93 19:15:08 EDT From: Philip.S.Augur@Dartmouth.EDU (Philip S. Augur) Subject: Box set If Rush ever does a box set to commerate the time they've been together (Chronicles just doesn't cut it IMHO), they could take a pointer or two from Jethro Tull. The 20 Years of Tull box set was simply amazing, second only to: 25 Years of Tull. I spent last night over a friend's listening to the set and reading through the mag. If you get a chance to see it you'll know what I mean. I'd love to see Rush do Tull one better by releasing the ultimate box set. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 17:47:53 -0700 From: hoferj@ucs.orst.edu (Jordan Hofer) Subject: Rush ain't satanic I know that this discussion of Rush being satanic is just a running joke in TNMS, but I've actually met people who believed that crap. There's this right-wing religious nuclear engineering student I know who is convinced that Rush is an acronym for Ruled Under Satan's Hand. I'll concede this much: Rush is THE band for science students and outcast sci-fi nerds, but that doesn't make 'em satanic...just makes them cool. --The Space Monk, Oregon State University ---------------------------------------------------------- From: laurent d nis 92jun18 thomin <f1jtl@leo.unm.edu> Subject: Morse code and Ham radio Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 19:39:43 MDT I've been listening to Rush for 10 years now and I'm still wondering whether Peart would be a radio ham. He played morse code during YYZ and told us about the Spirit of the Radio. Any hints?? 73 de wx3w/5 Laurent E-:-) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 22:17:02 EDT From: swaminathan gangadharan <sgangadh@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu> Subject: Rush and recognition Hi, Yesterday, I received a "Permanent Waves" and I've already listened to it about four times over. Listening to it got me thinking again about an opinion that many of us have discussed in the NMS. The fact that RUSH is grossly underrated and underplayed. I think that Neil Peart himself has (unintentionally, of course) given an answer to the question: Why has'nt RUSH been given the recognition it deserves? I found an answer to this question in the lyrics of the song "Cinderella Man". In this song, the Cinderella man is considered insane because he is moral. The same can be compared to the music of RUSH. Because it is of such a highly quality lyrically and instrumentally, a lot of people may not appreciate it. In addition, RUSH does not have the rebellious or "bad boys" image. This might have unfairly limited its popularity. To put it in a nutshell, most people need not appreciate a good thing when they see it,espe- cially if it is very realistic. At the same time I feel that RUSH gets enough attention from a small group of committed fans who are able to appreciate the effort that goes into creation of their albums. The people who subscribe to NMS are proof that Rush has fans who value their work. I don't think there are mailing lists like this for a lot of other groups. And,IMHO, do we have to look up to something as lacking in quality as MTV to give RUSH the recogniton it deserves. Should it be grouped with the rest of the commercial and popular (IMHO) junk that is played on MTV. MTV can never aspire to reach the standards set by RUSH and I think it will be a very long time before any group can fill the void if RUSH quit. A lot of times I feel like I'm listening to complete trash if I listen to any other group after listening to RUSH (Pink Floyd, Alan Parson's project and Jethro Tull being the exceptions I can list). Does anybody else out there feel the same way? Swami Gangadharan sgangadh@jupiter.cse.utoledo ******************************************************************************* There are those who think that life is nothing left to chance, A host of holy horrors to direct our aimless dance. You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice. If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill; I will choose a path that's clear- I will choose Free Will. -"Freewill", Neil Peart of RUSH ******************************************************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 23:55:13 -0400 From: Alan H Ristow <ristow@engin.umich.edu> Subject: 2112 Jim Stevenson asked if all of 2112 had ever been played live. It seems to me that the whole thing was part of one of the encores they did in Detroit during the Presto tour. I could be wrong -- I just getting into the older stuff at the time -- but my friends were very excited about them having played the *whole* thing. Now I'm really sorry I didn't know the old stuff better back then... As for finding out what states and countries NMS goes to, couldn't you just take a look at the mailing list? Of course, you'd need a way to decipher the internet addresses... And to the person looking for Rush Limbaugh's CompuServe mailbox -- try using the "finger" command on your computer system (assuming you're using some version of UNIX). I've tried to find it for you, but the network connecting me to internet won't recognize compuserve. Alan ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 00:43:51 -0500 From: jjbaker@iastate.edu Subject: MESSAGE Um, Hello fellow Satin worshipers Hi. I'm Kinda drunk right now and I was just listening to a 1980 live version of By-tor and the snowdog and its ausome. It was recorded in Saint Louis and then broadcast on FM radio. If any of you have this then I think you know what I mean when I say that this has to be the BEST version of By and snow ever recorded. Ged just simply rocks during this recording. I was just thinking... We all know from the wonderful information contained in Visions that Neils real name is Rotyb, (His father was of Russian dissent...) so when we say Rotyb backwards we get Bytor. This leads to one logical conclution... Neil is Bytor. So, By-tor, being the Devil's prince and all, must mean that Neil, or should I say Bytors father must be satan. I know this is confusing, but I felt that all of you should know this important info... I would like to say one last thing... Snowdog said backwards every other letter is Gdos. Everybody knows that Ged's real name is Gdos... So Ged is really God. His birth cirtificate says so, but the middle part of the "o" on the cirtificate has a piece of lint on it so it looks like an "e"... Godbye ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Digest #666 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 7:34:23 GMT From: Dominic Binks <binks@compsci.bristol.ac.uk> Digest #666 really made me laugh, especially the guy with his cat. Also Patricai Evans synopsis of HYF was excellent - more believable than any of the explanations given by those type of Christians who investigate this kind of thing. But then I suppose Patricia Evans is a follower like the rest of and understands the deep significance in the words :-) Seriously guys I guess it just shows us how careful we must be when interpreting lyrics. Dominic Binks binks@uk.ac.bris.cs ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 07:48:23 EDT From: u6x22@crcws4.bgm.link.com (Chris Bush) Subject: 666 issue Imagine my dismay to find out that my "revelation" about hidden messages and interesting numerology in Rush history was not included in the special 666 issue of NMS. Could be it was intercepted by evil daemons invading the Internet trying to prevent the truth from being exposed, thus inviting an invasion by the FBI or ATF? Good issue, we apparently have some active imaginations out there (or people with no life?). Worship on... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 10:58:09 -0400 From: vhalen@acs.bu.edu (Brian Zive) Subject: 666-I laughed, I cried... To all those who posted in NMS #666: Thanks for a great issue. It was better than _Cats_. ---------------------------------------------------------- To submit material to The National Midnight Star, send mail to: rush@syrinx.umd.edu For administrative matters (subscription, unsubscription, changes, and questions), send mail to: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu or rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu There is now anonymous ftp access available on Syrinx. The network address to ftp to is: syrinx.umd.edu or 129.2.8.114 When you've connected, userid is "anonymous", password is <your userid>. Once you've successfully logged on, change directory (cd) to 'rush'. There is also a mail server available (for those unable or unwilling to ftp). For more info, send email with the subject line of HELP to: server@ingr.com These requests are processed nightly. Use a subject line of MESSAGE to send a note to the server keeper or to deposit a file into the archive. The contents of The National Midnight Star are solely the opinions and comments of the individual authors, and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the authors' management, or the mailing list management. Copyright The Rush Fans Mailing List, 1993. Editor, The National Midnight Star (Rush Fans Mailing List) ******************************************** End of The National Midnight Star Number 667 ********************************************