The National Midnight Star #647

From temples@syrinx.umd.edu Tue Mar 23 22:36:36 1993 Return-Path: <temples@syrinx.umd.edu> Received: from syrinx.umd.edu by dsys.ncsl.nist.gov (4.1/NIST-dsys) id AA07443; Tue, 23 Mar 93 22:36:34 EST Received: by syrinx.umd.edu (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA26099; Tue, 23 Mar 93 21:35:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 21:35:08 -0500 Message-Id: <9303240235.AA26099@syrinx.umd.edu> Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu Subject: 03/23/93 - The National Midnight Star #647 Status: R
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(come for a visit) Spinal Tap and Radio play Similar Titles Rush Radio Poll Ayn Rand & Stuff Strange things to find in T-town Tom Sawyer sample by YBT ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Guildenstern <jason@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> Subject: The less things change... Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 15:57:21 PST >>>>> Robert Camp Miner <rcm@owlnet.rice.edu> writes: > And of course there's "The less that things change, the more they stay > the same" on "Break Like the Wind." Why would that be a reference to Rush? The saying "The more things change, the more they stay the same" is about as old as "Why did the chicken cross the road?" I'm not sure why people seem to feel that since Neil used an old line, anyone who uses it later must of necessity be making a reference to him. And actually, the line from BLTW is "The more it stays the same, the less it changes"... But anyway. Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 22 Mar 1993 13:07:00 -0500 (EST) From: JJS21@JAGUAR.UOFS.EDU Subject: Re: 03/19/93 - The National Midnight Star #645 To whomever posted about the Alex Van Halex flame- Why do you care what someone else thinks? I personally like Van Halen as well as Van Hagar, but I like Rush more, but what someone else thinks is his OWN opinion, which should be accepted as well as everyone acceptinf yours. ALL musicians produce something worthwhile in their own rite, it just so happens that everyone on this list seem sto enjoy the music of Rush more. The bottom line is why can't you respect someone's opinion instead of flaming? If someone likes Frank Beard more than Neil, LET THEM!!! I like Neil more than any other drummer out there, but I'm not prepared to start a flame war over it because IT'S NOT WORTH THE EFFORT! JS. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 20:36:44 -0500 From: cdean@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Christopher Dean) Subject: Sting, Geddy, etc. >From umnevile@ccu.UManitoba.CA >Subject: Yicki poo poo tangy pie. >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 11:07:09 CST > >And by the way, Sting IS a good bassist! What are you basing your >assesment of his talent on? Have you heard all of his material? Well, I don't mean to say that Sting is a _bad_ bass player, because he definitely isn't. I really enjoy a lot of his stuff. He's really solid, and writes some catchy stuff. But, (IMHO, of course) in general he doesn't come up with as interesting bass parts as Geddy does. And Jaco Pastorius is (IMHO again) another level or two above Geddy. Just trying to put everything in perspective. Chris -------------------------------------------------------------------- "Put a glide in your stride, and a dip in your hip, and step onto the Mothership." -- George Clinton -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 21:21 EDT From: LAUT@bcvms.bc.edu Subject: public opinion poll Hello everyone....i would like to get your opinion on something. With all the talk of Rush coming out with a new album in the near future, one question pops into my head..Who would be a great opening act for the greatest band of all time???? Of course, i have my own personal opinion upon the subject (dream theater) but thats not important right now..What do you think? send your ideas(hopes) to bill at: laut%bcvms.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu In about a week or two, i will hopefully(depending upon the response) post some of the most imaginative tour bills sent in. Maybe the top 10. anyways, have some fun and send in your "works of art" thanks bill"the maples want more sunlight"conley ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 21:29 EDT From: LAUT@bcvms.bc.edu Subject: addition to public opinion poll oops! Just to let you know, the opening acts you decide to send in do not have to have a new album...they can be anyone old or new. sorry bill"deviate from the norm"conley ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 21:51:29 -0500 From: iu@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Scott Summers) Subject: Record label First of all this is my first post and have been a huge RUSH fan since PoW came out. I was recently in St. Catherine's (Ont.) and noticed RUSH CD'S on the Anthem label. Also, on the last couple (Few) albums here in the US I noticed Atlantic/Anthem onas the label. Could anybody give me more specifics on why RUSH's material in Canada is on a different label? Is Anthem subsidiary of another record company (Mercury or Atlantic) etc.????? Additionally, I heard that one of the reasons RUSH switched to Atlantic is because of the Time Stand Still video. Is this true and if so is this the only reason??? Scott Summers iu@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: SMills@ncagccsu.telecom.com.au Subject: Song titles Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 12:54:00 PST I know another song written by two bands with the same title : *Second Nature* Rush and Clannad. Good band Clannad actually! Very atmospheric stuff.... Stum ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 21:57:02 -0500 From: vhalen@acs.bu.edu (Brian Zive) Subject: Christopher Dean reads inbetween the lines I did not say anything in my post about Michael Anthony being an amazing bassist. He is a very good rhythm bassist, and an important part to the backbone of Van Halen. I also did not say that Alex Van Halen was a better drummer than Neil Peart. And as for your statement about Eddie being the only musically talented person in Van Halen, please listen to the bass lines on Van Halen II, and Woman and Children First, and open your ears. The power, the fury, the glory... zive p.s. B.U. will win the NCAA national championship in hockey!! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 22:46:05 -0500 From: redpaco@acs.bu.edu (Jennifer Feinman) Subject: ayn rand Hi Everyone, Reading the NMS tonight I saw the post abou the Ayn Rand Institute sponsoring a thing at Harvard tonight. Well, over here across the river at B.U., our objectivist clucb is also s (sorry) co-sponsoring, with the Ayn Rand Institue, a seminar, tonight, as a matter of fact, if you are reading this on Tuesday. Its in the GSU (student union) and its free. Even better, they will specifically be talking about her theories on FreeWill. It starts at 7pm, for whoever out there can go. I know I'll be at (sob) chem lab... jennifer ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 22:47:38 -0500 From: Christopher Mermagen <cmermag@wam.umd.edu> Subject: Thanks Ken F. Oh man.. thanks for the report.. I am spinnin' my wheels here waiting for the new album. "Intense" is how Ged describes it?? YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES..just what the Doctor order. I hope they do a song or two like Ghost of Dance though.. A little bluze sprinkled in is always nice.. I CAN'T WAIT.. BTW - just a little comparison.. On the DT song pull me under, there is a riff/drum part that sounds exactly like the end of 2112 where they jam a few seconds before "Attention all planets" and peart plays those snare hits.. I'll try for a more complete analysis later.. ciao- Chris ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 10:00:47 -0400 From: ron@convex.esd.mun.ca (Ron Wiseman) Subject: song titles and Junos Hi, Jeremy Todd Strzynski <jtstrzyn@cherry.wustl.edu> writes: >and i do, has a better rock voice than anyone), and it caused me to wonder >just how many songs share titles with Rush songs. besides "Turn the Page" >i can think of "Best I Can" by queensryche, and if you really want to >stretch it, "Overture" from _Tommy_ (and about one hundred musicals). >and i seem to remember olivia newton-john having a song either titled >"Xanadu" or about it. anyone else know songs with Rush titles? I can add the song 'Jacob's Ladder' by Hughy Luis and the News, and 'In the Mood' (the lounge lizard tune). As for the Juno Awards: Rush did not play, were not even there, and were not even mentioned. Yeah, I was pissed off too! - Ron ---------------------------------------------------------- From: wvgray@1302.watstar.uwaterloo.ca Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 09:01:40 EST Just to clear up the mention of the connection between Gasworks and Wayne's World, The Gasworks is a very fine establishment on Younge Street in Toronto that I had the honour of being thrown out of while visiting there one day. It does not look like the one in Wayne's World (flaming letters) but IS a cool bar (although a bit scummy, which isn't necessarily a bad thing). -- Bill ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jaakko J Ruohio <jjruohio@vipunen.hut.fi> Subject: Mike Myers & Rush Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 16:19:21 +0200 (EET) >From: Robert Camp Miner <rcm@owlnet.rice.edu> > >And, apropos of nothing, here's John Rutsey on page 8 of *Visions*: "I >remember the first bar gig ... It was really something else. We were >suburban kids. None of us had really gone out drinking in bars. Ray got >us a job at the Gasworks." The Gasworks! Excellent! I'm referring to >Wayne's World, where the excellent heavy metal bar (it even has a pool >table) is called The Gasworks! A coincidence? I think not. Just a quick note. 1) In a Rolling Stone interview (the one with Wayne & Garth on the cover) Mike Myers says "once Rush mentioned Ayn Rand I'd go out and read it" 2) Look at the GUP album photography and think what if 1001001 was Morse code. -- Jaakko J Ruohio / "It's really fun when there's someone there who doesn't Jaakko.Ruohio@hut.fi / know why people are saying, 'You suck.'" -Larry LaLonde ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 09:14:30 EST From: paulc@avid.com (Paul Crossman) Subject: Rush on the radio in MA. (come for a visit) Here in lovely eastern Massachusetts, we have a radio station called WCGY (93.7) The play Rush like they are going out of style... They have this thing at 5pm called the five at 5. They pick an artist and play five songs. I dunno if they have done rush yet, but here are some of the more obscure songs I have heard on this station. Circumstances Cinderella Man Xanadu (The whole thing) Working Man Twilight Zone The Trees (they play this a lot) La Vila Stragiato Natural Science Entre Nous (sp?) The Camera Eye Witch Hunt The Analog Kid Digital Man (usually as a dbl shot with analog kid, depends on the dj) Red Sector A Between the Wheels Countdown The Mission Prime Mover Turn the Page Where's My Thing That's about all I have on the list that I keep, I find it interesting that only one radio station in the Boston area will play this much Rush. As a side note, this station is rapidly becoming the #1 AOR station in the area!!! So, if you are ever in the Boston area, tune your radio to 93.7 (wcgy) and do me a favor...rip the dial off of the radio, and request lots of RUSH!!!!!!! Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 12:48:34 -0500 (EST) From: Randall O Bugge <01999@brahms.udel.edu> Subject: Spinal Tap and Radio play Goood morning Rushians, On a note about Spinal Tap. Fisrt off, I am a big fan, and saw them on their limited tour this past summer. Secondly, after repeated poorly attended concerts by mostly piss-poor musicians; SPA (student program association) here at U of D got Michael McKean (aka Lenny or David St. Hubbins) as a guest speaker last term, so Ghost (my roommate) and I went to see him. He spoke for a while, and then came out in character and played a short accoustic set as David St. Hubbins. To make a long story short: Most of the movie "This is Spinal Tap" was completely off-the cuff. As a matter of fact, there was only ONE scripted line in the whole movie "Tap into America". The movie was done by the cast (Rob Reiner, Michael McKean, Christopher Guest, etc.) setting up situations, and just taking off in character. They never intended to poke fun at any specific bands (I don't really believe this, some things are just too obvious), but rather made up outlandish and hillariously impossible scenarios. He did say that on numerous occasions, somewhat irate band members have accosted him for making fun of them, when it was completely unintentional. I could go on but I won't, this is getting long. As far as Rush on the radio: See post by Ghost a day or two back, but I will add that I get one station at my home (only about 25 miles away from his) that he does not. The station is 95.1 WZZO out of Bethlehem/Allentown. I won't go into any detail, but this staion breaks the rules. They play songs before they are released, songs that were never released, and in general are very unpredictable. As evidence, last time I was home, I heard this playlist: Locomotive Breath(Jethro Tull), Shinny Happy Peopple (REM), Bastille Day (gee, I wonder), Freebird (Skynyrd), Enter Sandman (Metallica), and I changed stations during People are People (Depeche caMode). True, you never know wat you'll here, but often times its great--and there's no lack of variety. They still do not compare to Buffallo/Toronto stations though (although I have heard them play Rik Emmett/Triumph too). You're all sick of reading my ramblings, so I'll spare you any more eye-strain. The Red Barchetta ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 14:04:31 -0500 (EST) From: Chad H Hutchinson <ghost@brahms.udel.edu> Subject: Similar Titles Hi kids, Someone asked yesterday about songs with titles that are the same as Rush. Well, I thought of two more: "In The Mood" by Robert Plant and "Chain Lightning" by Steely Dan ============================================================================ | | | \ _____ \ \ \ ____ \ The Ghost | | \ \ \ \ \ ghost@brahms.udel.edu | | \ \ \ \_____ \ ____ Chemical Engineering | | \ \ \ \ \ \ University of Delaware | | \__ \_______ \______ \__ \__ | | "Life redirected in ways unexpected." | ============================================================================ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 13:19 EST From: AAWST3@vms.cis.pitt.edu Subject: Rush Radio Poll G'day, everyone! My second and last announcement on this subject: I'm conducting a poll to find out what kind of airplay each Rush song gets. So far, I'm getting a good amount of responses. Keep it up! I think it would be easiest for you to just send me each song when you hear it -- don't worry about keeping track of them all and sending me one big list -- I'll take care of that. Someone wrote to me with a good suggestion - if you can, tell me which station you heard the song on. That way, I can let you all know what stations out there are playing rush, so when you have to travel, you'll know where to tune your radio. (Obviously, if you do send the station, let me know the city & state, too!) Just keep sending those radio reports -- the more you send, the more accurate the poll will be. Participate! Later! -------------- Al Wolf AAWST3@vms.cis.pitt.edu P.S. I'll keep my hockey comments outta here for the time being, in an attempt to avoid angering anyone and thus prevent them from reporting Rush hearings to me.... :) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 13:21:13 CST From: A8732112@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU Subject: Ayn Rand & Stuff Howdy all. I'll make this quick because I have to go to Spanish. In the Tempo section of todays Tribune they put a list of worthless but interesting info. they do this every day but today's is speical. it read: "According to the Book-of - the-Month Club reader survey, these books have influenced us the most: 1) The Bible 2) "Atlas Shrugged," by Ayn Rand 6 others made the list but have no reason to make the post,. could this be the same Ayn Reand(e) I've been reading about?? Just a little info from Chi-Town. Also before I go Brian and your post yesterday , I have only one word for you. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!R O C K A B I LL Y!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on. Well gotta go, gotta go, gotta, go. TTFN, Adios, Hasta Luego. Par-Five, Putting the Spring back in Spring Break. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: dstrickl@mib05.eng.ua.edu (Daniel Patrick Strickland) Subject: Strange things to find in T-town Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 13:36:07 CST While cruising the local record shop in the University Mall, I found an interesting CD. It was an interview titled "Rush--The Story of Kings." While I abhor interview CD's this WAS Rush, so I broke down and bought it. Turns out to be an interview with Alex after HYF. Pretty interesting stuff. Nothing too new. Sounds like it was recorded while someone was doing the dishes (?). Anyway, nothing that really isn't answered anywhere else. A couple of things about Alex's oldest son...history...lack of "bad boy" image associated with most groups. I was surprised how euphoneous (sp) Alex was. Hmmm, so why can't he sing? Anyway, I thought it interesting that an import would find its way to remote, yet spunky, Tuscaloosa. Should I be like offering to copy this for people? Or is this something everyone has? [ This appears to be a widely distributed CD, the transcription to this interview in on syrinx via anonymous ftp, in the rush/special directory, called "alex.hyf.int.Z" : rush-mgr ] |--------------------------|---------------------------------------------| |Daniel Strickland | "Black wind falling to the ocean floor | |dstrickl@buster.eng.ua.edu| And the red tide washes ashore" | |Univ. of Alabama | -Red Tide [maybe crimson???] | |--------------------------|---------------------------------------------| |Roll Tide! 13-0 Vanderbilt, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, Tennessee,| | Mississippi St., South Carolina, Ole Miss, Tulane, | | Arkansas, L.S.U., Auburn, Florida, Miami... | | A long list of victims... | |------------------------------------------------------------------------| ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 15:07:15 -0600 From: bgc1@cec2.wustl.edu (Brian Glenn Carlson) Subject: Tom Sawyer sample by YBT In response to the post by Will Geeslin which mentioned the song, "Time To Make The Dough Nutz" by Young Black Teenagers (who aren't even black, BTW), I did find it slightly interesting because of teh sample from Tom Sawyer, but other than that, there is not a whole lot to it. IMHO, it is just plain a bad song and I wouldn't advise anyone to go out of their way to hear it. Even my suitemates, who listen to a lot of rap, thought it sucked. Just my two cents. Brian G. Carlson (bgc1@wucec2.wustl.edu) "We claim to know the secrets The answers have been found But how can one fool make another wise?" - Kansas, No One Together ----------------------------------------------------------
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