The National Midnight Star #637

From temples@syrinx.umd.edu Thu Mar 4 19:20:43 1993 Return-Path: <temples@syrinx.umd.edu> Received: from syrinx.umd.edu by dsys.ncsl.nist.gov (4.1/NIST-dsys) id AA04851; Thu, 4 Mar 93 19:20:39 EST Received: by syrinx.umd.edu (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA25753; Thu, 4 Mar 93 18:30:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 18:30:07 -0500 Message-Id: <9303042330.AA25753@syrinx.umd.edu> Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu Subject: 03/04/93 - The National Midnight Star #637 Status: R
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Re: 03/03/93 - The National Midnight Star #635 Six Short Rush Ramblings Neil & Philosophy Re: Gedster v. Dylan/Springsteen YYZ's nemesis Grammy-Rock Instrumental ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 17:12:21 -0600 From: SCHULTZ <schultz@cowley.uwlax.edu> Subject: 24 carat gold RUSH Take hold RUSH fans, They've gone gold!!! Three months ago I too was wandering through the RUSH CD's at my local CD store and I came across the 24 carat gold plated Moving Pictures original mastered CD. Naturely since this CD I did not have, I just had to pick it up and add it to my RUSH collection. The price tag on this CD was $31. Since I have over a half of dozen BOOTS and am use to paying mucho denarrow for these CD's, I couldn't resist. This CD is about 16 seconds longer than the more popular $12 MP CD. I now your asking, "But does it sound better since it is an original mastered CD?", and yes, yes it does sound better. This CD print has a flatter RUSH mix. Rather than having one sound stand out more, or another sound stand out more, this CD has a flatter mix and sounds better. This jule case is also made better. The CD sits in a locking mechanism that only unlocks when you open the jule door all the way. The jule door also snaps shut. But hey, enough on the jule case, back to the more important stuff, RUSH. The insert that is include with the CD it slick. The more popular $12 MP CD excluded a picture of Master Neil. This insert include Neil this time. And finally, the insert opens up to a mini poster of the MP cover. Cool, way Cool. Later RUSH nuts... Greg. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 17:30:34 -0600 From: SCHULTZ <schultz@cowley.uwlax.edu> Subject: "Show Don't Tell"... MTV Top 200 Well RUSH fans, I don't know if the Video "Show Don't Tell" made it onto the top 200 on MTV last Saturday; HOWEVER, part of the bass solo DID make it into the MTV Top 200 countdown. Right after Song 58 (I believe) as they were going to a commercial, part of the BASS SOLO was being played on MTV. later.... Greg. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Maurer <jdm@sequent.com> Subject: Jacob's Ladder Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 16:21:50 PST Will: >I think that Jacob's Ladder is one of the most underated Rush songs. I >never hear people talking about it, or writing about it. I really like it. >Am I weird? (Well, yes I am weird, but specifically on this subject) Are >there other Jacob fans out there? Got to agree. One of my best "RUSH" memories was when I was living in Washington and had a balcony that overlooked Portland and the Columbia River. A friend, also a big RUSH fan, was over for a visit, and all of a sudden a summer thunderstorm started forming out over Portland. I grabbed a couple of chairs, some beer and my speakers and we headed for the balcony. We popped open the beers, cranked up Jacob's Ladder and sat down to enjoy the show (we don't get many thunderstorms out this way). Great stuff! jdm ================================================================================ _ / Jeff Maurer, Sr. Analyst _ ___/ _ __ Service Applications, Sequent Computer Systems, Inc. / / / / / / Uucp: ...!uunet!sequent!jdm / /__/_/ / Internet: jdm@sequent.com __/ (503) 578-5062 "Follow men's eyes as they look to the skies. The shifting shafts of shining weave the fabric of their dreams." Neal Peart, RUSH ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 03 Mar 1993 20:17:00 -0500 (EST) From: ASILVERM@umiami.IR.Miami.EDU Subject: La Grange vs. the Habs Yo man, I see somebody took my ZZ Top comments a bit too seriously. . . LIGHTEN UP, will ya!!!! [ Err.. he isn't the only one to take it seriously, see another post below :) :rush-mgr ] OK the Habs took that game but I'll eat my hat if Mr. "Oh the playoffs are here I guess it's time to choke then" Roy can sneak his way past the Mogilny/LaFontaine express when the serious games roll around. (Not that the Sabres will get any farther than that. . .) Aaron ASILVERM@UMIAMI Go Bruins! Chowder Power! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: SMills@ncagccsu.telecom.com.au Subject: FREEWILL.. Date: Thu, 04 Mar 93 12:00:00 PST Yo guys and gals, Just a comment on Wayne's interpretation of the line "if you chose not to decide....". I was always of the opinion (prior to reading the NMS) that Neil was cleverly, VERY cleverly pushing the Freewill argument against the Determinism argument. The basis of the freewill position is ofcourse that we, as individuals have the ability to decide our OWN fate; there is no pre-destiny. The key word here is ofcourse 'choice' (and the determinsts often argue about what this actually means). So Neil is saying if you chose not to decide (ie: you don't know whether Freewill or Determinism is correct) you STILL have made a choice and THERFORE you are exercising Freewill!! Bloody clever if you ask me, unless I'm completely wrong. I DO recognise the religious argument in the song aswell, and I attribute this two-topic mixing as implying (somehow) that Freewill doesn't necessarily imply a God ( Determinism certainly has no place for a God.) HOWEVER, we all know Neil is an Aetheist(true?) YET he profers Freewill. Now I'm confused.... Help on this would be greatly appreciated! Stum ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 21:13:48 cdt From: "LaVllaStrngiato (Krauss,Eric B)" <KRAUSS@AC.GRIN.EDU> Subject: ZZ Top vs. Rush Funny thing: ZZ Top used a drum machine in "Sleeping Bag." Bet Rush would never do that. . . ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 03 Mar 1993 23:13:01 -0500 (EST) From: MOSUREGD@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu Subject: Jacob's Ladder! In response to Will Geeslin's post about Jacob's Ladder, I agree it is an underrated song. Especially if you've tried to play it. Being a drummer myself, I can attest to that with all of the funky time sig changes every measure or so, this song is a show-case of Rush's musical talent. A very good one at that. Greg ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 23:40:01 -0500 From: <neal@Writer.YorkU.CA> Subject: The REAL origins of the "National Midnight Star" moniker.... Hi fellow Rush fanatics.... Noticed the discussion about the origins of the NMS and it's unique moniker. Granted rush-mgr, that does derive from "Red Lenses" off of the Grace Under Pressure album. But the specific origins of this term that NP used in the lyrics comes from an episode of the Second City Television Show in the late 1970's and early 1980's. SCTV contained various presently famous movie stars and writers, such as John Candy (Splash, Uncle Buck), Harold Ramis (Groundhog Day as dir., Ghostbusters), Catherine O'Hara (Home Alone, Beetlejuice), Andrea Martin, Dave Thomas (brother of Ian Thomas, a famous songwriter, who had in his touring band for 6 years a certain Hugh Syme, on keyboards, thereby solidify- ing the connection to Rush in a direct way), Joe Flaherty (on Maniac Mansion, and played the ever popular "Count Floyd" who always introduces "The Weapon" for the band in concert). SCTV, before they hooked up with NBC to do their show in the US, were really on their peak creatively and satirically, when they worked with the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, the Canadian public broadcaster. In one of their episodes, the head of the mythical tv station, Guy Caballero (Joe Flaherty) needs a great sweeps week rating boost to his pathetic lineup. So he gets local Mellonville rag tabloid, The National Midnight Star, to do a show of sensationalistic, crappy tv journalism, exposing local and national stars. Seemed like an Entertainment Tonight, cheesey sort of set up. Also, Guy was so hard up for ads, he only had the ads running for the tabloid version of the NMS, in between the mythical shows. Meanwhile in the Rush universe, with the connections Hugh Syme would have had via Ian Thomas and therefore Dave Thomas, Dirk, Lerxt and Pratt became hooked on the bizarre comedy of this time. They were really the only original comedy coming out on mainstream tv at this time with the demise of the original cast of Saturday Night Live leaving the air. Really biting stuff SCTV did. Anyway, NP in tribute to the rag journalism the SCTV version of the NMS on screen, was mentioned in Red Lenses as: We've got Mars on the horizon -a reference to their cheesy horoscopes (horrorscope) Said the "National Midnight Star" "It's true!!" -they always claimed on the SCTV version that their outlandish claims "were true" with their unnamed sources. What you believe is what you are. -how true Anyway, two mysteries solved and the connection to Hugh Syme is fleshed out and their resultant comedic interplays. There is a lot of "entertainment-based incestuousness (sp?)" in Toronto, as this was the base for much of the SCTV material and of course, our favourite band. Another example of where the best in entertainers and artists do seek each other out. Cheers..... Neal Stephenson neal@writer.yorku.ca "A pair of dancing shoes, the soviets are the blues, the red... Under your bed....." Red lenses, NP. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Merrill <jason@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> Subject: Lee, Dylan, Springsteen Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 20:41:12 PST >>>>> Wayne Torman <wayneto@microsoft.com> writes: > While Neil's lyrics are far from the ONLY great part of Rush, I think > many on TNMS would agree that lyrics are the ONLY great thing about > Springsteen and Dylan. I disagree entirely. You say that what sets Geddy apart from these other two is conviction, but Springsteen just radiates conviction. The energy and feeling he puts into his music is what makes it great -- I'm not particularly fond of his lyrics, but Born to Run is a truly great album, IMHO. It's a lot harder to defend Dylan from that charge, but again I would have to disagree that his music lacks conviction. Try listening to some of his music for an extended period of time -- it takes a while to learn to like (as Rush did, for me at least, and as do most artists that I eventually come to worship). I must admit, however, that I tend to prefer covers of his stuff to the originals. I, personally, don't appreciate Geddy's screeching, but it doesn't particularly bother me, either. I look past it to the beauty of the instrumentals and the lyrics. I think Fly By Night is one of the greatest songs of all time, but my girlfriend can't get past the vocals. Ah, well... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: frick@cs.utexas.edu (Baltasar Allende Reva) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 22:52:58 -0600 Subject: Awesome the convention! This is awesome, whatr a great excuse to go visit the Great White North, and during such an awesome time of the year!!! Anyways...I think that the convention should also include a room were rare items are displayed, or how about a record convention downstairs? thats what other fan conventions do...I have many rare posters and records and I'll be delighted to specially showcase them and explain my fellow fans the origins and legends of each item! any ideas write here or to me : frick@cs.utexas.edu later everyone! albertr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 23:58:03 -0500 (EST) From: SEIDENBERG@MARY.FORDHAM.EDU Subject: Andrew MacNaughtan Update/Primus Well I recently found out what Mr. Andrew MacNaughtan has been up to during the off-season of Rush and it's kind of interesting. First off, Andrew is no longer the bands Personal Assistant. Apparently he's had "enough of living on the road". He will however maintain his Tour Photgrapher status and will also (most likely) do the photography for the new album. He just completed the album shoot for the next Primus album. The album btw will be called Pork Soda and from what I understand is pretty cool. One final note about Primus, look for them on a very big multi-band tour this coming summer.....lolla, lolla lolla. Until later. Ken F. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 23:58:13 -0600 (CST) From: MuffinHead <smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu> Subject: Re: Barchetta >I wonder if the Ferrari explanation for what Neil's talking about on >Moving Pictures is worth anything since they show a Maserati in the video on >Chronicles. Not that it means anything, but Maseratti has introduced a new barchetta - don't remember the name. Again, the word "barchetta" pertains to a type of car, not a name, like spyder or coupe (yes, even though there have been cars named Spyder and Coupe). Muff ___________________________________________________________________________ smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu -=<*>=- MuffinHed@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 01:41:56 EST From: Leaders or Dealers...What's the difference? <vaghini@scoman.enet.dec.com> Subject: The Cd spine.... I got a question... Why not just turn the cd case over? Maybe I'm a slob, but there doesn't seem to be any great harmonic convergence when all my cd's are facing one direction, so I don't worry about it... Johnny "There is a fine line between genius and insanity. I have erased that line" -unknown ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 01:38:38 CST From: A8732112@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU Subject: ASOH ART. Greetings once again from party central. This evening I was listening to ASOH and while doing so I turned my attention to the front cover. Does anyone know who did the art for the front cover? Did this same person do the anamation for Force Ten? If it is someone other then a band member what else has he done? If hes has other stuff is it expensive? Is it as good as the album cover?? Did he do tis speical for ASOH or is it a real painting/sketck(h)??? Just a question about a art investment. MattHPDavis Par-Five, Kinda like pizza, when it's good, it's good, but when it's bad it's still pretty good. Go Hawks-J.R. & Chelios & Belfour, what more could you ask for??????? ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 08:56 EST Subject: Re: 03/03/93 - The National Midnight Star #635 From: jrs@cblpe.att.com! In The National Midnight Star #635, Philip.S.Augur@Dartmouth.EDU writes: > >I wonder if the Ferrari explanation for what Neil's talking about on Moving >Pictures is worth anything since they show a Maserati in the video on >Chronicles. I agree, I always though that Barchetta was a classification for a type of car independent of the manufacturer. Like coupe, convertible, sedan, berlinetta, spyder, targa, cabriolet ... If the song were "Red Convertible", the FAQ wouldn't include a history of every convertible ever made. I think the literal translation (small boat), plus the explaination that the term is usually used for small open Italian sports cars, would be sufficient. Jeff Sherota jrs@cblpe.att.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 08:07:21 -0700 From: Benjamin Travis Radford <icred000@triton.unm.edu> Subject: Six Short Rush Ramblings Okay Folks, I rarely post, so please bear with me: 1.) Regarding intra-album comparisons: Each album is different, reflecting different ideas and different times. Quality comparisons are tricky; let each album stand or fall on its own merit without having to live up to personal likes of favorite older albums. It's fine to prefer one album over another, or one 'era' over another, but I believe that Rush's consistent quality renders most comparisons to "personal likes and dislikes" (which are fine and legitimate, but are not necessarily representative of the album's objective quality). 2.) BTW: (1) No 4th member (2) Nobody's got cancer (3) DROP IT. 3.) Anybody check out Bradbury's "I Sing the Body Electric"? It's a good short story collection. Pick it up in a good used bookstore for a buck. 4.) Anybody know if Neil still smokes? I would think that an avid bicycler like himself (not to mention a self-disciplined man and strong-willed percussionist) would have kicked the habit. Just a question. 5.) It seems strange to me that RUSH did a video for _Afterimage_. Granted, it's a song that's special to them, but I have heard Neil mention several times that making videos is, in his opinion, a waste of time. The video is even more puzzling in light of the fact that most of the songs that are made into videos are commercially succesful songs. _Afterimage_ was never a particularly succesful song. Any ideas? 6.) One last item: I'm going to do something on this next Album which many of you will probably think is stupid and childish. I am going to listen to only side one of their next album. I want to save one album side of songs for after RUSH is gone. Face it, folks... Rush probably won't be around for another 10 years. I'll ration the songs to myself for special occasions (birthdays, etc). Sounds silly, but I'm going to do it. So there. (; ._ . . _. . . '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ._ ._ . . ;) (: |_) | | (_ |_| "No zodiacs or almanacs |_) (_ |\| :) (: |\ |_| ._) | | Or maniacs in polyester slacks" |_) (_ | | :) (; ' ' ' ' ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ' ' ' ' ;) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Camp Miner <rcm@owlnet.rice.edu> Subject: Neil & Philosophy Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 11:15:11 CST In response to Wayne Torman's post of 3/93: "Let us not underrate the value of Neil as one of our century's greatest (few?) existential philosophers." Hmm ... I'm a little dubious. As my mom used to ask me, Which one of these does not belong? Husserl, Sartre, Heidegger, Foucault, Derrida, Sartre, Habermas, Husserl, Peart. Those are a few 20th century philosophers whose names might be lumped together as "existential," a rather ambiguous term to say the least. And as for the Anglo-American analytic tradition, dare we mention Peart in the same breath as, er, Frege, Russell, Wittgenstein, Ryle, Quine, Strawson, Sellars, Anscombe, Geach? Not that I have any sort of privileged access to Neil's mind, but I think he would be the first to admit that he, like most of us, is a philosophical pygmy compared to the great minds of this century, or of any century for that matter. The great philosophers are those people who are (a) geniuses; (b) people who are utterly consumed by philosophical problems, who spend a great deal of their lives learning to think rigorously and who spend an unbelievable amount of time reading other philosophers. I certainly *wish* Neil were a great philosopher. Then I wouldn't have to spend five to seven years in philosophy graduate school, as I plan to do. I could sit around, crank up the stereo, and read Rush lyrics. But alas ... This is not intended as a flame, Wayne. I think Neil *is* a great popularizer; his accessible lyrics combined with the musical facility of Geddy and Alex do open intellectual doors in ways that cold, forbidding technical philosophy does not. But there we must stop, I think. Neil opens the door, but doesn't show you all that much once you're in, as I think he would agree. (I don't think Neil would rank himself with the great philosophers; he likely sees himself for what he is: a very proficient, creative drummer who is very smart and knows a lot about a lot of things, but cannot compare to specialists in any area save drumming.) As for your contention that Springsteen and Dylan have bad voices ... I couldn't agree with you more! In response to Matt MacDonald's post, this most certainly is a flame. [ What every moderator needs: flame_filter /usr/spool/mail/temples > /dev/null :rush-mgr ] I won't say anything about Matt's amateurish slurs on people from Texas. And I won't dwell on his evident ignorance of the meaning of the adjective "unintelligble" (if my criticism were "unintelligible," then presumably you wouldn't have been able to understand it and argue against it). I'm sure you learn many important things at the Columbia School of Journalism, but remedial vocabulary alas isn't one of them. I was astounded to learn from Matt that "Neil's lyrics effectively communicate complex and innovative ideas ... with a startling economy of language." Whatever else they may be, none of the ideas from Neil's Randian phase are particularly complex. Certainly they aren't innovative, as Neil recognized by acknowledging the "genius of Ayn Rand" on the 2112 album. As for Hemispheres, an awesome musical composition, anyone who has read Nietzsche's *The Birth of Tragedy* will find little new in Peart's appropriation of the Apollo-Dionysus dichotomy (Peart probably got the idea from Rand, who almost certainly got it from reading Nietzsche, which means Peart is a "second-hander," as Rand in *The Fountainhead* would say, but I'll let this pass). As for lyrics from Moving Pictures on, what's notable about these, I think, is their greater humility (and humanity). They're more likely to be about relationships, Neil's travels, current events, anything but the communication of "complex and innovative ideas." And when Neil does get into deep-think, it tends to be embarrassing. For instance, "Roll the Bones." Neil's treatment of the problem of evil-- this I take to be a major preoccupation of the song--is shallow compared to that of, say, Richard Swinburne, Alvin Plantinga or Robert Adams, all of whom are excellent contemporary philosophers and, incidentally, theists. If Neil were serious about philosophy, if he wanted to transcend the current dilletantish agnosticism/atheism he exemplifies, he would grapple with the major arguments of these philosophers, or he would know his limits and not write about the problem of evil. "Roll the Bones" is infantile. Neil can do better. And finally, regarding Greg Andrade, who in response to Aaron Silverman concludes "Thus, it is entirely foolish to claim that Neil Peart has gotten many of his ideas from Frank Beard." Indeed, it is *transparently* foolish to think such a thing, which led me to believe that Mr. Silverman was joking. At least I hope he was. (rush-mgr: Matt and I are great friends: the superheated prose don't mean a thing...) [ Flames Flames flames. There are better uses for the mental energy invested in flames. USENET is a great example of such. :rush-mgr] ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 13:19:02 -0500 From: Mike Hackett <hackett@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Subject: Re: Gedster v. Dylan/Springsteen Wayne Torman <wayneto@microsoft.com> writes: > While Neil's lyrics are far from the > ONLY great part of Rush, I think many on TNMS would agree that lyrics > are the ONLY great thing about Springsteen and Dylan. This is NOT > meant to insult S & D fans, but I would guess (Hey, Dan, how about a > poll?) that MOST Rush fans would rate S&D fairly LOW on their list of faves!!! Sorry, have to disagree in a big way there. Dylan music is quite good, especially, I feel, in producing the correct mood for the song. Granted, his music is not anything like Rush's - Rush's is much more complex and rightly so, as this is more their style. Personnally, I love Dylan, and I rate his music higher than Rush's in general. But, depending on my mood, I will listen to a wide variety of different stuff. (BTW, for the guy who loves ZZ Top - I've got their first 7 albums on CD [the 6-pack + De Guello (sp?). I love them, but again, wouldn't directly compare them to Rush. I'm a fan of their blues material.) As far as Springsteen goes, I don't care for him, so I'll let someone else come to his defense. (Anyone, anyone... :-) > Actually, a very odd thought just struck me.... these two guys IMHO > have BAD voices. So do many other singers that I really dislike. Yet, > Geddy's was probably the most complained about voice in Rock and Roll > (Why don't you like Rush?, etc.) and I absolutely delight in his early > screeching(!). How do I justify disliking these other guys so much? > CONVICTION. Geddy always has had conviction about what he sings. In > fact I think the biggest problem with Presto is that Geddy tried so > hard NOT to sing badly. It came off lacking conviction!! I realize that you put an "IMHO" up there, and you may personally not care for either Springsteen's or Dylan's vocal styles, but the _fact_ is that Dylan has an excellent voice. Maybe not "pretty", whatever that means, but you can really feel it. I'd have a hard time trying to explain what I'm trying to say. Go to "rec.music.dylan" and there will be lots of people who will be happy to explain the many reasons why Dylan's voice is so good. I'm not going to get into all that here in a Rush forum, nor am I going to get into why people are listening to the "wrong" Dylan performances. All I can say is that I saw him at Hamilton Place last fall, and it was an incredible performance! Also, although I don't care for Springsteen, my reasons for this dislike have never included his vocal style. Sure, it's fun to poke fun at his voice, but I don't think that alone would turn me off of his music. How about Roger Waters? All he does is talk through his albums, but I love a lot of his stuff as well. And, just to include some Rush content, I've never thought Geddy's voice was bad, although some of those early performances have some humourous moments. :-) ===================================================================== Mike Hackett | "Ignorance and prejudice <hackett@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> | and fear walk hand in hand" Honors Computer Science IV | -Neil Peart, "Witch Hunt" University of Western Ontario | - _Moving Pictures_ (Rush) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 10:37:12 EST From: djs@sadtler.com Subject: YYZ's nemesis Please ignore the spelling, I don't have my reference album next to me but YYZ lost to The Police's _Behind My Camel_ off of _Zenyatta Mondetta_. When I heard that YYZ lost, I had a strange vision of all of the Grammy voters lined up against a wall being mowed down by Uzi toting musicians, with YYZ being played in the background. :-) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: mseconi@sedona.intel.com (Mark Seconi) Subject: Grammy-Rock Instrumental Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 13:04:56 MST I might be mistaken concerning who beat Rush's 'YYZ' for the Best Rock Instrumental Grammy. Paul McCartney and Wings' 'Rockestra' on the _Back to the Egg_ album came out in '79, as pointed out to me by Ron Chrisley. My second guess :) was the Police's 'Behind My Camel' from _Zenyatte Mendatta_ which did come out in '81. The significance of McCartney's recording is that it's the first winner of this Grammy category. Looking this up in _World of Winners_, Gita Siegman, ed., p. 356, varifies these winners and the dates, but not who the contenders were. Mark Seconi mseconi@sedona.intel.com ----------------------------------------------------------
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