The National Midnight Star #633

From temples@syrinx.umd.edu Tue Mar 2 19:27:18 1993 Return-Path: <temples@syrinx.umd.edu> Received: from syrinx.umd.edu by dsys.ncsl.nist.gov (4.1/NIST-dsys) id AA00884; Tue, 2 Mar 93 19:27:13 EST Received: by syrinx.umd.edu (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA09356; Tue, 2 Mar 93 18:30:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 18:30:07 -0500 Message-Id: <9303022330.AA09356@syrinx.umd.edu> Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu Subject: 03/02/93 - The National Midnight Star #633 Status: R
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Time/Date of Rush Rockumentary Free Speech & Frank Beard (none) The Love Song of J Alfred Prufrock Tom Sawyer Gold MP CD guitarists Junos, Buddy Rich Benefit, POLLkas Presto Spine RushBase ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue Mar 2 15:21:12 EST 1993 From: rush-mgr Subject: Administrivia Looks like today's is a small digest... There will be a special edition later tonight with the Rush Arcane Trivia File. Anyone with corrections/additions on that would be greatly appreciated by the keeper of that list! - rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 14:33:54 CST From: nbruels@romulus.cray.com (Nick Bruels {x66705 CF/DEV}) Subject: Rush Dream Thread Well, a couple of weeks back, I had a dream about work. I'm an engineer with a computer company, and I do a fair amount of mechanical design engineering. Anyway, I was dreaming that I was walking down the hall to where a draftsman usually works at his CAD workstation, but lo-and-behold, the draftsman was replaced by our own favorite drummer! Didn't really look like HIM, but I knew it was anyway...I asked him what he was doing at our company. He basically said that he was there on a contract basis to do some mechanical design work for me, since he didn't have any recording work to do! That's about it, as dreams go... "...Dreams transport the ones who need to get out of town..." Humbly, Nick "Strangiato" Bruels ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 01 Mar 93 17:14:01 EST From: "Will Geeslin" <WILL.GEESLIN@UKWANG.UKY.EDU> Subject: What about Jacob's Ladder I think that Jacob's Ladder is one of the most underated Rush songs. I never hear people talking about it, or writing about it. I really like it. Am I weird? (Well, yes I am weird, but specifically on this subject) Are there other Jacob fans out there? ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 18:32:28 EST From: matthew-d Klain <klain@gauss.rutgers.edu> Subject: 2112 Cover Band Review (IMHO) I had an experience over the weekend that I figured I would share with you. Please don't hate me for it! My band opened for 2112 at the Rock Horse in Asbury Park last Friday(the26th) and I had been rather excited about seeing them perform. Unfortunately, for a couple of different reasons, I was quite disappointed. First off, the singer's voice was a caricature of Geddy's voice. In other words, he over-exaggerated Geddy's 'whine' if you will. He sang SUBDIVISIONS the way Geddy sang Anthem. He didn't come out of his whiny falsetto all night. (well, I left halfway through) IMHO, it would have been more entertaining if he had just used his own voice instead of trying to mimic Geddy's. Secondly, they didn't act like they were having any fun. The bassist/keyboardist just stood around like a statue with a frown on his face the whole time. That's just no fun!! I do have to give them some credit where credit is due though. They did learn MOST of the music perfectly. The guitar solos were quite impressive and the bassist and percussionist had their licks down well. However, the songs lacked soul. All of the drums and bass lines (as I said) were correct according to musical notation, however each note/beat was played with the same force rather than using taste by playing either lightly or aggressively. I suppose that in the same way, I wouldn't buy a painted Monet copy to put on my wall, I also can't find pleasure in a copy of something which I consider to be fine art. That may have hindered my ability to enjoy this band. Certainly other people may have really gotten a Kick out of it. There were a lot of people who were really grooving to their toons. If you are more of a fan of older RUSH then you will probably enjoy it. They covered Anthem, By-Tor, 2112 intro/Syrinx, Freewill and a number of other slick tunes. Again, I am sorry about the format of this post. There is presently something wrong with the editor. It is possible that the errors won't be transmitted. Take care, and don't forget to brush your teeth before you go to bed!! ***************************************************************************** It Echoes With The Sounds of Seals Man!! (of seals man???) Matthew Klain klain@gauss.rutgers.edu ***************************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 18:05 CST From: CUBSFAN@OREAD.CC.UKANS.EDU Subject: MTV Top 200...."Show Don't Tell" Does anyone know if "Show Don't Tell" made it into MTV's top 200 video countdown this past weekend? It must have, being that they played in constantly back when Presto came out. ANyone know for sure? -Mike ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 23:18 CST From: CUBSFAN@OREAD.CC.UKANS.EDU Subject: Rush on IRC I am a new user of the IRC network, and recently tried to join the p/g! chennell, which I have heard is the hangout for Rush fans...including a few NMS readers. The system wouldn't allow me to join the channel. Could some of you IRC p/g! vets clue me in as to how to go about joining p/g! Thanks! [ The #p/g! channel is usually patrolled by a loyal Robot known as RushServ. Send a message to RushServ like such: /msg Rushserv Lessons to get more information about the channel. See you there! :rush-mgr ] (sorry for the relatively non-rush content, but this is the only way I could think of to reach IRC-using Rush fans) PS---please reply via e-mail! -Mike ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 21:22:31 -0500 From: Sister Ray <moleface@wam.umd.edu> Subject: Re: Guitar to Tom Sawyer >Do any guitarists out there know the guitar part to Tom Sawyer >beginning >at "And what you say about his company..." I can't seem to figure it >out. thanks > >matt daues It's transcribed in Guitar for the Practicing Musician's _Guitar_Classics,_Vol._2._ I don't know if this is still available for back order, though. Hopefully this wasn't a waste of time and space. Moleface ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 20:35:37 -0600 From: mmays@quapaw.astate.edu (A Morris Mays) Subject: Rush on MTV yet again! Did anyone happen to catch Headbangers' Ball last Saturday night? At about 12:40 (central) the played Tom Sawyer. Before they played it, Riki Rachtman was saying something about the fact that he wasn't the biggest Rush fan and everyone jumped down his throat for it because "Rush fans are diehard fans." At last Rush is starting to get some of the coverage they deserve. BTW, the video was just the Tom Sawyer clip from the ESL or Chronicles video. The funny thing was, there was no album listed beneath the song title. It just said "An MTV Concert." Yeah right... oh well... Maybe Steve Isaacs wasn't kidding? ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 21:32:40 -0500 From: vhalen@acs.bu.edu (Brian Zive) Subject: NP and Alex Van Halen The articles I've been reading about this Alex Van Halen "Neil Pert Sound- a-like Contest" has been bugging me. There is no doubt in my mind that Neil Pert is the best drummer out there, but there is also no doubt in my mind that Neil Pert and Alex Van Halen have two totally different styles. If AVH is going to be copying anyone, it's going to be John Bonham or Ginger Baker. One of the main reasons Van Halen canned Donn Landee for Andy Johns (he produced Zeppelin records) was because Alex wanted his drums to sound like they did on the old Zeppelin records. Both drummers deserve respect for being in the business for so long. Oh yeah, about the "Pleasure Dome" thing. Eddie went into the studio without anything written for "F.U.C.K." Each song was written one at a time. On top of that, Eddie hasn't bought a record since 1980, and he has even said a numerous number of times that he doesn't even have a player in his home. Therefore I don't think "Pleasure Dome" is a rip-off of such a great Rush classic "Xanadu." I'm up for any comments. I'm sure I'll get bashed. vhalen@acs.bu.edu. oops. no period after edu in my adress. It should be: vhalen@acs.bu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: frick@cs.utexas.edu (Baltasar Allende Reva) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 20:32:45 -0600 Subject: PoWindows glitch During the Power Windows tour in Austin, Texas (I think is 1/18/1985) the screwed up the intro to the big money...I don't have a recording of it unfortunately.. later albertr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 21:42:16 EST From: Greg.Andrade@um.cc.umich.edu Subject: Rush and the Radio I am fortunate to live in Ann Arbor, MI, which is pretty much equidistant from Toledo, OH and Detroit. This means that I have access to a large number of radio stations, six of which play Rush. I have heard 2112 in its entirety 3 times over the past two years. I have heard tunes you wouldn't expect, such as "The Trees", "Anthem", and "Hand Over Fist". Unfortunately, all of these stations are pretty content to keep playing the same group of Rush songs in general, including CTTH, Limelight, Tom Sawyer, Red Barchetta, the Spirit of Radio, Freewill, and Dreamline. I'm sure many of you would love to hear just these, since you are not in big Rush markets, but it gets very tiresome after 10+ years. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 22:14:24 -0500 From: mkempton@rs6000.baldwinw.edu Subject: Re: 03/01/93 - The National Midnight Star #632 I see that several people responded to my post about the UltraDiscII, but nobody mentioned the phone number for Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab. The number is 1-800-423-5759. Just ask for a free catalog. All they ask is your address and where you heard of them. About the "II," the bottom of the ad says "ULTRADISC II is a new, improved ULTRADISC formulation." Just 2 more cents. Mark ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 22:01:32 CST From: A8732112@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU Subject: Weekensd excitment. Greetings once again. A couple of things before I get to the meat of this post ySince we've been talking aboiut hearing 2112 on the radio. I'll tell my story About 3 or 4 years ago I was helping my grandma move. We were listening to the radio(94WKTI MIL.??)and they were announcing a block of Rush. Well I forget th e first song but the second was the first two movements of 2112. Now I listen to the radio alot but when you hear 2112 on the box you need to stop and relax. Another instance was this Jan. Myself and two of my friends were driving out of Montreal(By the way Neil's may live their but he's not in the phonebook) (I had to try) It was about 6:00 am and we werer listening to chom 97 (Good English station in French Quebec) Well to our surprise we heard Xanadu on the radio!!!!!! I was excited to say the least. Well now that I've gotten that off my chest. I'd like to bring the house down a bit. This weekend I was lucky to see the Black Crowes. All I want to say is if you get the chance to see these guys, DO IT IT WAS GREAT!!!!! The song list was great the stage setup was great all around it was great. Not to mention the opener. The Jayhawks werer alot better then people had told me. I just thought that people would like something to do while Rush labors away in the studio(). Matt"counting the days"Davis TTFN Par-Five, If it looks like it, Smells like it, Tastes like it, It may be it. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 20:08:40 -0800 (PST) From: Kevin Field <ijones@u.washington.edu> Subject: Time/Date of Rush Rockumentary Does anyone know the date and time of the upcoming Rush rockumentary (there IS going to be one, right?) Even though it IS on MTV, I'd like to see the coverage they give them. [ There is *no* rockumentary on MTV. The question posed was a hypothetical one, would people want to see it if MTV did do one on Rush. : rush-mgr ] Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 01 Mar 1993 23:48:40 -0500 (EST) From: ASILVERM@umiami.IR.Miami.EDU Subject: Free Speech & Frank Beard Yo gang, I think we should all take a chill and refrain from flaming those who post stuff we don't want to read(not to mention sPpeOcLiLfSics). OK so you might have to take a few seconds to skip over something that bores you but why bother bugging everybody? They always seem to spark 800 posts about "Gee, I like *** so keep doing it if you want" "No way, ***'s suck and I don't want to bother hitting space fifty times!" Let's cut the NMS brain police act, OK? I noticed in the last NMS someone mentioned Frank Beard of ZZ Top played a drum solo that showed a Peart influence. . .well, I think it's time to reveal to all of you the real truth: As we know, the Top has been around a few years LONGER than Rush (and certainly before Mr. God- oops, I mean Peart joined in the fun). I hate to break the news, but Peart's style is actually mostly based on stuff Frank Beard has been doing since his bandmates had 5 o'clock shadows! So put away all your Rush albums, grab a liter or two of JD and kick back to Rio Grande Mud or Tres Hombres! FEEL the power of the drums! I hope none of you are too heartbroken. . . Aaron Silverman ASILVERM@UMIAMI P.S. Cam Neely: 2 games, 2 goals, 'nuff said. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 02 Mar 93 16:01:00 From: SMills@ncagccsu.telecom.com.au! DAN - Keep up the polls! I missed a few issues but, on the poll for BEST SONG, I think you'd get a much more representative view by using primary votes and 2 or 3 preferences (3,2 and 1 point each say). I did this for a Presto 'best song' poll last year (some people may remember) and the preferences DID make a difference. But its your poll, so you may have bette ideas. Later from Oz, Stum ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 23:31 CST From: CUBSFAN@OREAD.CC.UKANS.EDU Subject: The Love Song of J Alfred Prufrock What a coincidence!!! We just read this poem today in my 200 level English class, and as I was reading through it, I noticed the lyric, and thought the same thing. I bet Neil had read this poem right before writing the lyrics to "Open Secrets." The whole poem struck me as something akin to a Rush lyric. I recommend it to anyone interested in a possible inspiration for some of Neil's grat lyrics! -Mike ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 22:35:11 -0700 (MST) From: jeffrey r brinkman <brinkmaj@helium.GAS.uug.Arizona.EDU> Subject: Tom Sawyer Hey all, There was a message yesterday about the guitar part to Tom Sawyer. I'm sorry, I accidently deleted the NMS for the day before I got the address. If you happen to see this (It's Mike, isn't it?) e-mail me and I'll try to write it out for you. Sorry for the inconvenience, but it was an accident. Talk to ya later. I think I'm going bald Jeff Brinkman ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul James Peterson <pete1787@csd4.csd.uwm.edu> Subject: Gold MP CD Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 1:52:00 CST N member to the NMS-glad to be aboard. Some questions about the gold UltraDisc of Moving Pictures have arosen, thought I'd add a few cents worth. These discs, manufactured by Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs use the original master tapes from the original sessions, and are pressed using 24K gold discs for reasons such as longevity as well as atomic structure. Gold's structure allows is to better 'fit' the pits in the disc in such a way that laser beam scatter and data errors are reduced significantly. This, combined with the superior quality of the original masters, creates a sound quality far better than the conventional aluminuisc. I own several of these UltraDiscs, (Police, Pink Floyd, Sting, MP Next!), and they're excellent. The highs are crisp and dynamic, and the bass end is really gutsy. I would say it'd be worth the extra few $$ to score Moving Pictures on UD. You'll be amazed when you hear things you've never heard. And with a group like Rush, hearing more of an excellent perform- ance can only be more wonderful (whoa!).s ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 13:40:29 -0500 From: karaffa@scws5.ctstateu.edu (Gabriel Karaffa) Subject: guitarists Hey, I have a hypothesis: most rush fans are indeed musicians. Now don't be insulted if your not, after all you don't have to be an actor to be a movie fan, but I was just realizing that most of the rush fans I've met, either played or were thinking of playing an instrument. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 11:30:06 PST From: JJones.wbst129@xerox.com Subject: Junos, Buddy Rich Benefit, POLLkas Rush guys and girls, I have a couple of commets and questions. To start, I remember way back when when I was first getting into our favorite Canadians, I taped an interview from a local radio station that was the closest thing I have ever seen to a Rockumentory. (The tape died long, long ago :-( ) Anyway, they mentioned that Rush won a Juno right around the time the first album came out. It was for the Best New Band or something like that. I am pretty sure of this fact but if anyone can refute or back me up I'd appreciate it. And now a question, I want to get the Buddy Rich Mem Video with Neil playing i dont know the exact title ad i would also like to know if it is a set of videos or just one? I can't seem to find it anywhere and I can't stand it. I have got to see Neil pounding it out with others from the drumming community. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Jeff JJones.wbst129@xerox.com ps. Dan... Keep the polls coming. I think it is interesting to see what other Rushheads like. Keep up the fight. oh, yeah..."I see Red, and it hurts my head!" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rpan@microsoft.com Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 11:47:11 PST Subject: Presto Spine Just my $0.02. Mike mentioned that the Anthem releases all have the correct spine. I have an Anthem release and it's spine *is* backwards, as are all of the ones my friends have (who have Anthem releases). b ---------------------------------------------------------- From: jlang@syrinx.umd.edu Date: Tue Mar 2 16:13:53 EST 1993 Subject: RushBase >From: Mike Hackett <hackett@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> >Date: Sat, 27 Feb 93 17:34:45 -0500 >Subject: Re: Presto spine & Tour Dates listing > >Anyone ever seen DeadBase? DeadBase is a very detailed listing of all their shows, set lists, songs performed live, it's a great reference guide, esp. for GDead boot collectors. I agree, a RushBase would be very nice and handy. >I realize that it would be a _lot_ more difficult to get information >on more than a handful of shows, but at least it would be a start. Not as hard as one would imagine, there are people with several hundred shows that have already said they would help with this project. > [ Actually something like this has already been started although on > a smaller scale as the DeadBase version, contact jlang@syrinx.umd.edu > for information. Or perhaps team up and get this RushBase on the > road! :rush-mgr ] > Yes, I had started to work on something similar to this a while back but haven't really done much with it since. If anyone on the list would like to contribute, send me email or would like to work on it with me, we can get the show on the road. The tour list would provide a good framework as Mike stated for putting together a big database of live Rush performances. I've gotten several offers from people willing to help compile this database, so hopefully it will become a reality real soon. -Jimmy jlang@syrinx.umd.edu ----------------------------------------------------------
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