The National Midnight Star #617

From temples@syrinx.umd.edu Tue Feb 9 19:18:30 1993 Return-Path: <temples@syrinx.umd.edu> Received: from syrinx.umd.edu by dsys.ncsl.nist.gov (4.1/NIST-dsys) id AA01658; Tue, 9 Feb 93 19:18:27 EST Received: by syrinx.umd.edu (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA28642; Tue, 9 Feb 93 18:30:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 93 18:30:09 -0500 Message-Id: <9302092330.AA28642@syrinx.umd.edu> Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu Subject: 02/09/93 - The National Midnight Star #617 Status: R
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RUSH XXII century RFTF & fourth member? license plates ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 08 Feb 1993 14:59:19 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Hutchinson <HUTCHINS%ITHACA.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu> Subject: Geddy's best (or most fun) Here are my favorite basslines by the Gedster (not necessarily in order of difficulty, some are just damn fun to play): "classic" = Beneath Between Behind, Freewill, YYZ "middle" = Turn the Page, Digital Man, Distant Early Warning "recent" = Show Don't Tell, Where's my Thing Two notes that are semi-related to Rush: - Bass players out there: I have a lefty M V Pedulla for sale, contact me through the net or at (607) 256-8303 if interested. - Dream Theater fans: I think we need to start a separate discussion list, contact me if interested in getting this going and/or circulating boots of shows (I already have one). -- Mike Hutchinson hutchins@ithaca.bitnet "When temptation brings me to my knees, And I lay here drained of strength, Show me kindness, show me beauty, show me truth ..." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Kaplan <sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu> Subject: The Weapon beat Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 19:16:18 -0500 (EST) In a recient NMS, Greg.Andrade@um.cc.umich.edu writes: >Basically, Mr. Peart must use his left hand as the "lead" through most of the >hi-hat sequences Really? I don't think so. For one thing, on the basic beat there is time enough to swap your hand around and lead with either hand, if you feel like it. But the basic point is that to *lead* with your left hand means that the down beats are done with that hand, and you seem to imply that it's necessary to do so for The Weapon. Not at all. Not only is it possible to lead with the right hand, but it it is also very natural to do so. While his left handed lead abilities are better than most rock drummers, I would agree that they are nowhere near the abilities of many jazz and fusion drummers. It's a very difficult thing to do. Scott Kaplan Amherst College sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 20:46:11 -0500 (EST) From: Chad H Hutchinson <06819@brahms.udel.edu> Subject: Quick Message about Dream Theater and RTB Radio Special Hi kids, Short one today. First of all Dream Theater will be playing Hammerjacks in Baltimore on February 27 (Saturday). $8.00/ticket and doors open at 8:00pm. Anyone else planning on going, E-mail me and we'll see if we can meet! Cool, man. Secondly, anyone who would like a copy of the Roll the Bones Radio Special can send me a tape (at least 71 minutes in length) and $3.00 for the return postage. I will be more than happy to do it. ALSO, make sure that your return address is clearly written somewhere and include any special instructions if desired. I am sure of the identity of an old unreleased Rush tune that I have on a bootleg from 1974 (Stellar Dynamics). The song is without a doubt "Fancy Dancer." Quality ain't super, but I got it. If you have any questions about it, buzz me! ______________________________________________________________________________ \ _____ \ \ \ _____ \ The Ghost \ \ \ \ \ 06819@brahms.udel.edu \ \ \ \_____ \ ____ University of Delaware \ \ \ \ \ \ Chemical Engineering \__ \_______ \_______ \__ \__ * * * * * * * * Better people, better food and better beer * * * * * * * * ______________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: prbarr@mail.wm.edu (Barrett Paul Robert) Date: 8 Feb 93 21:23:13 Subject: Rush v. Yes All this talk of why people don't like Rush has reminded me of what my Freshman roommate used to tease me about. He claimed that Yes and Rush were the same band and that they just called the band by two different names. Now I tried to explain, first by the logistics of a different number of people, and then by citing the different music styles why they were different but it just didn't work. My ex- roommate thaught that Jimmy Buffet was the greatest musician on Earth, so he's obviously not too musically literate and I finally gave up. Oh well, he just couldn't see why anyone would need any lyrics not about beer, sex, or drugs other than "A Cheeseburger In Paradise" And he is even an English major, while I'm a Chem major, figure that one out. Anyone know where Geddy got the idea for Necromancer from or is that an original idea? Just curious to expand my knowledge of Rush. Thanks, Paul Barrett ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, n DMS. 93 21:43:24 CST From: Luis Arturo Loyo Delgado <LLOYO@VMTECQR2.QRO.ITESM.MX> Subject: Just a quick note... Hi: I'm the guy from Mexico.... just wanted to clear out something... When I said "Football games", I meant American Football games.... (BTW, I don't like soccer, guess I'm the only one in Mexico who doesn't!) That's all. Thank you for your time. Luis. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 23:14:00 -0500 From: Christopher Mermagen <cmermag@wam.umd.edu> Subject: Lookin' for RTB video Sorry for the semi-annual post, but I am still curious if anyone around here (DC/Balto area) has the video RTB on a Video cassette that I can make a recording of.. or even from afar, I don't care, but I have only had the pleasure of seeing the video once outside the concert... always a pleasure Chris ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 09 Feb 1993 01:45:26 -0600 (CST) From: ST1S1@Jetson.UH.EDU Subject: "WHAT'S OUR FAVORITE ALBUM" POLL!!!!!!!!!1 Alright all you rush freaks!!! Time to vote. Lets find out what our favorite Rush album is! With the NMS mgrs permission, I'd like to conduct a poll.........just Email me your favorite all time Rush Album, and I'll post the results after a few days! So........vote now at: ST1S1@JETSON.UH.EDU I'll look foward to finding out the winners!!!!!!!!! thanks! Dan Zivijinovich Ross ST1S1@JETSON.UH.EDU ***************************************************************************** Now really, for the last time; Why are we here????????? ***************************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larry Salomon Jr." <os2man@Panix.Com> Subject: Re: The Weapon Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 06:56:39 -0500 (EST) Muff, As I understand it, the song is not that difficult, but there is that *one* lick after the guitar solo *just* before Geddy comes in with "He's not afraid of..." which is a good test of your dexerity. Cheers, Q ---------------------------------------------------------- From: u9031278@athmail1.causeway.qub.ac.uk Date: Tue, 09 Feb 93 13:53:07 GMT Subject: Fourth member? Just a quick response to the mail in the last NMS about a fourth member in the band.In my opinion this would be a very bad idea as it would just be totally wrong after all these years as a trio.I did read something by Neil Peart a couple of years ago just before Presto and basically he said that they had considered getting a keyboard player for the next tour (ie the Presto tour) but they all decided against the idea as they thought it would feel and look wrong, which is something i entirely agree with.As their last 2 albums have had much less in the keyboard department (and i'm assuming the next one will be the same in this respect) a fourth member in Rush just (hopefully!) is'nt necessary as they have been able to play all the synth parts by themselves and let's hope it stay's this way. Just a word on Peter Collins, glad he's back as Rupert Hine was definitely the wrong producer for the band as he gave the album's a slightly U.S. FM rock sound whereas Peter Collins kept the band sounding slightly "English" imo, which suited Rush's type of music. Ruairi ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Feb 93 01:57:02 EST From: Greg.Andrade@um.cc.umich.edu Subject: John Dos Passos John Dos Passos was brought up in NMS #616. I have only read one book by Dos Passos, the 42nd Parallel, which is the first book of his famed U.S.A. trilogy. I purchased the book because I had heard about Dos Passos' influence on Neil Peart. I was not expecting much, but this book was excellent. I had not read much literature from the 1920-30s until my exposure to Dos Passos. He has been called a "leftist" and very "political" writer, but these are overstatements. Though the 42nd Parallel featured quite a bit of political commentary and one of its main characters was a leftist who aided revolutionary causes, it can be appreciated for its quality in plot and characters alone. I researched Dos Passos' career and discovered that his work has influenced such Rush works as The Big Money, Grand Designs, and The Camera Eye to name a few. He has also written a book called Manhatten Transfer, which might be the source of the name of the jazz vocal group. I would not say that there is much similarity in Dos Passos and Peart's writing styles, except that they both pay great attention to detail and like to fully explore their characters. I have not had the time to read more of Dos Passos' work, but I intend to and would recommend it to anyone who is interested. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Feb 93 09:08:48 CST From: nbruels@romulus.cray.com (Nick Bruels {66705 CF/DEV}) Subject: Re: 02/08/93 - The National Midnight Star #616 Paul Mangiafico pmangiafico@guvax.georgetown.edu wrote: >P.S. - Here's an idea for a new thread: > >A few weekends ago I saw a car on I-66 near Manassas, Virginia, with a >license plate that read N PEART. Does anyone else have Rush-inspired >tags, or can you suggest good ones? > In the mid-early '80s, I saw "2112 R" in the Southern Minneapolis 'burbs. Custom Minnesota plates aren't too cheap, either... nick.bruels@cray.com "...but even when I'm gray/I'll still be gray my way!/Yeah!" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Feb 93 10:21:52 EST From: msaleski@tegra.com (Mark Saleski) Subject: Rush License Plates To add to the rush-related license plate thread, I saw one in New Hampshire last week: "BYTOR" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Feb 93 08:05:22 PST From: brent@ufo.llnl.gov (Kevin B. Fournier) Subject: Gif files at syrinx To who ever submitted the file cd_cover.gif, WOW!! That's a really cool looking picture. It looks great on my Mac, and it would look really great somewhere in my cd collection. Keep up the good work. Brent ============================================== The coffee's not bad for Nectar of the Gods ============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Feb 93 08:12:32 PST From: brent@ufo.llnl.gov (Kevin B. Fournier) Subject: Geddy in his own comicbook? Yes, I've been playing with my new GIF watcher utillity and blowing of work (hey, I work for the government anyway....). Well, I just noticed that if one looks at the picture of Geddy playing the double neck bass/guitar in doubleneck.gif, one notices that with his eyes completely shadowed, and as thin as he is, Geddy looks just like Morpheus in Vertigo's Sandman (at least some of the older issues such as during the Seasons... story line). Do many Rush fans read comics? Just curious... Brent ============================================== The coffee's not bad for Nectar of the Gods ============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1993 12:24:31 AST From: "STRANGER IN A STRANGE LAND...'" <otoni2365@cuhac.upr.clu.edu> Subject: RUSH XXII century Hi Rush-maniacs!!! I want to discuss to some fans of Rush and Dream Theater what they understand about the concept of "Progressive Rock". I will copy an article (only fragments) that appears on the Guitar Player Magazine of JAN/90. Dream Theater is influenced by Rush and I think that maybe Dream Theater would be the group that will take the old vision of music from Rush,not the same but almost. But I still thinking that the concept of music from RUSH is unique. [ Ok, just a friendly reminder this is a Rush mailing list, *not* a Dream Theater list. With that in mind, we'll let the the following DT "plug" go through the digest. :rush-mgr ] DREAM THEATER :New Definition for Progressive Rock The term "progrssive rock" can bring many conversations to a screeching halt,polarizing event the most mild-mannered music aficionados.For some,it conjures complex,compelling,sometimes classically derived rock,while others view it as bombastic musical excess.Both sides generally concede that,for the most part,it died with the '70s. However,Dream Theater is cutting a path into a new territory that's heavy on the metal,light on the classicism,and thick with excitement. Their debut album WHEN DREAM AND DAY UNITE shows the quintet taking chances in odd meters,scaling complex harmonies,and burning on their instru- ments.At times they travel the road paved by Emerson,Lake & Palmer,Genesis, Kansas, and RUSH,while laying down a thick coating of grit that only comes from the type of metal forged by Iron Maiden,Metallica,et al. { analyze the influence } ...."It was the same thing with using a tremolo. I listened Steve Vai's Flexable,and then Brad Gillis when he palyed with Ozzy Osbourne. Another guy who has an interesting approach to the bar is ALEX LIFESON. He doesn't use it in a really radical way,but he uses it to put vibrato on chords and to slur into notes-like Allan Holdsworth.I want to learn a lot more." { and the said } ...."My main influences came from Iron Maiden,RUSH,Yes, and Jaco Pastorius." {end} ** I think that RUSH set a new standard of music a long time ago and that kind of music would never comes again. RUSH is my favorite group and maybe in the 22 century this music will reborn again. {if they reborn again } Otto Jacobs Ladder... Write me if you have any sugestion... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 12:39:19 -0500 From: Scott David Daly <skipdaly@wam.umd.edu> Subject: RFTF & fourth member? Hi all! Somebody posted: > Just Picked up Run From the Fans last night... really not a bad > album at all... Those of you that have it: With regard to it being a > little slow sounding, one bright side. When you get a chance, listen to it > with headphones or a good stereo or something, and listen to the > background sounds, with the album being a little slow sounding, it gives you > the chance to hear those parts or sounds you would normally miss. For > instance, during Xanadu, I heard an elephant screech (never heard this > before), and other stuff like that. It just seems to allow you to enjoy the > music a little more. Try it, plus I think some (most?) of you will agree that > the CD is not slow enough to the point where it is annoying. Yeah, this is a good point...it gets on my nerves the way some songs sound slowed down, but I've noticed the KEYBOARDS a LOT better in this recording! The sequencer in Force Ten JUMPS out and the backing keyboards (pedals) in songs like RTB and Xanadu are GREAT! About the possible fourth member...GOD I HOPE NOT!!! I would HATE that! I LOVE trio music (The Police, RUSH, etc.) and one of the things I like about RUSH is that they do what they do AS A TRIO! The thought of one of my favorite trios becoming something OTHER THAN a trio just sucks! ...just my 2 cents... Skip ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: license plates Date: Tue, 09 Feb 93 15:58:15 EST From: Rob Cash <rmcash@eos.ncsu.edu> In regards to interesting license plates... "21RUSH12" seen at North Carolina State University in Raleigh, North Carolina (USA) Just FYI. Cheers, Rob || || || || || ||=. Cheers! || ||=. || || | || || | || || | Rob Cash || || | || || | B.S. Student in Computer Science || || | || || | North Carolina State University || || | || ||=' || ||=' ||_______|| Internet: rmcash@eos.ncsu.edu ||_______|| \_________/ \_________/ ----------------------------------------------------------
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