The National Midnight Star #586

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 12/24/92 - The National Midnight Star #586
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Guitar/bass/drums --> sounds like RUSH Re: Writing to Neil Geddy's best bass lines New Producer ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu Dec 24 17:20:58 EST 1992 From: The National Midnight Star Editor <rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu> Subject: Administrivia Well, happy holidays everyone. Just a short reminder that yes, the T-shirts are in and if you have mailed in for one, please be patient, you should have one by the end of next week. (Some may have already received them - let's hear what you think!) Also, there's some Rush news at the end of this digest concerning the next album and the producer. (Thanks Ken, you did it again bud!) :rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:05:10 -0500 From: Eric Alexander <eric@ovl.osc.edu> Subject: roles I recently reintroduced the likes of Neil to my eldest brother. His initial reaction was one of frustration, but he soon put Neil's style into a unique perspective. He said that you have to listen to him with the idea in mind that he doesn't drum along and just keep the beat, but rather that he takes command and, unlike many drummers, makes the next thing happen rather than waiting on it. I just thought that THAT was the best way to describe the style that I had heard yet. You really can't sit back and play Neil's stuff. It requires anticipation and precision. I realize that there are hundreds (at least) of drummers that can execute what Neil plays, but there are few drummers who can take charge of the sound that way. I have to compare some of the greats that were/are capable of that. First, the granddaddy of them all, Gene Krupa. Gene took over a song like few drummers before him. He took what could be considered a primitive view of music, that the drums should be what moves you, be it in dance, mood or whatever. I am sure that there were many drummers between Gene and Buddy Rich, but Buddy is the next guy to portray that attitiude. The next individual I can think of in the train moving towards 1992 is a man named John Bonham. John took the idea of Rock-n-roll drumming to new heights, making us realize as Gene and Buddy did, that druming could well stand on its own without other insruments. I have always felt that drumming was the difference. While any instrument could play the blues, any instrument could lay down a jazz or blues chord progression, it took rythm (a rythm section) to make it rock-n-roll. Please don't flame me on this, so many people have shown me songs that differ from this idea I'm almos blue, but I still think that if you want rock-n-roll you better have somebody tapping, banging, shaking, or plucking a rythm. I am sure that I have left out many influences in lives (mine, Neil's, etc.) but I think the picture and the styles stand for themselves. Steve Gadd is more than worthy of the praise I give these others as are Smitty Smith, Will Calhoun, and I could go on....OH and Louis Belson and .....others. The point is, the greats share an attitude, sort of a cockiness that you don't find in the average pianist. Oh well I guess that's my $.02 worth. That could even cost me $.05 I think. If you have constructive remarks to the contrary or in agreement, let's discuss. Eric Imagine a land.....when it all began..... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:09:11 -0500 From: Eric Alexander <eric@ovl.osc.edu> Subject: dying days In the catagory of "things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmm..." Isn't it strange to think that the words "In the dying days of the war" could turn out to be the days when everyone here is claiming victory. The dying days of the war.....are afterwards. Just a thought. E. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: ianbjor@GAS.uug.Arizona.EDU (Ian D. Bjorhovde) Subject: Rush Boots Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 17:35:03 MST Hi ho. Well, after a rather unsuccessful day of Christmas shopping, I came across this CD, which I bought (naughty me)... What does anyone think of it? Rush, 'Mardi Gras' Live Recording, 23 Feb 1992, New Orleans, LA Goregon Music (Australia) It is a 2 CD set, with 18 tracks between them. I paid USD $59.00. Was I ripped off?? Thanks, --Ian D. Bjorhovde ianbjor@gas.uug.arizona.edu Department of Materials Science and Engineering The University of Arizona ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 19:50:12 -0500 From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) Subject: Yes, the Rush instrument playing. The Neil drum parts thread is very interesting. When I started to listen to Rush, Neil was impressive, but not *quite* as impressive as he'd been made out to be. The basic parts are very straightforward in most cases -- Tom Sawyer sounds pretty simple to pound out. He gets fancy in the drum solos. I think one thing he does is use a very wide selection of drums and percussion, so there are some non-standard sounds, even for him. Unlike say Alan White who has a trademark snare. The rich variety of sounds, even synthesized ones, is great. Bass lines -- Geddy is a very understated player, he doesn't do grooves very much. I like Force 10. Free Will is another powerful one. The keyboard lines seem to sound very easy to play! :) I saw a tape of Caress of Steel -- should I have gotten it? Is this album any good? Scott -- I will choose free will. (Rush) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:26:01 -0500 From: Christopher Mermagen <cmermag@wam.umd.edu> Subject: Guitar/bass/drums --> sounds like RUSH Well, there have been some talk about relative talent lately and hard solos on bass... I think Neil is a very talented drummer and has excellent chops, but I was disappointed when I was younger to hear Dave Weckl for the first time, because he played with more dexterity than my Idol did, but I came to realize that Dave playing Neil stuff would not be Dave, and Neil playing Dave stuff would not be Neil, so I stopped comparing and just ENJOYED BOTH.. so anyway, the moral of the story is: when you're walking on eggs, don't hop.. no wait a minute, I guess the moral of the story is enjoy the music, enjoy the talent, enjoy the SHOW. As far as people judging guitar players by their speed (I think Gerry brought this up), I really disagree here.. yeah, Malmsteen is very very fast, but I listened to his newest album, and all the solos were actually horrible to me. There was absolutely no feel whatsoever.. Each note sounded like it didn't fit with a grand design (except of course speed). This is where Alex shines, as far as I'm concerned. I've enjoyed Alex's work from day 1 of my Rush enjoyment, and I can tell you he is a very smart guitarist. He knows his limits, but he can really play mean solo.. As far as solos with feel that fit into the framework of the song, I believe that Alex is a diamond in the rough. Listen to Ghost of A Chance, Marathon, The Pass, La villa, lots of his work on Caress, etc.. The list goes on and on. Geddy lee: the tower of power, too sweet to be sour, the man of the hour!! He is sweet... as far as bass work I find tough, lets see.. most of it!! :) Actually, his later stuff technically speaking is relatively easy, but to duplicate the nuances, slides, and stuff that makes Geddy Geddy is just way beyond me.. (1 being hardest) 1. Analog Kid 2. Circumstances 3. Middle Town Dreams 4. Big Money (just when you think you've got it, try singing it!!!) 5. Digital Man (another fret burner from signals) 6. Camera Eye (I've never really tried to learn this cuz I am afraid) 7. Anthem 8. Hemispheres (Theres some neato stuff in here) 9. YYZ (probably should be higher, but the numbers have lost meaning me!) 10. Just about everything else Well, the sand man is about to pay me a visit, so take it easy, and sorry for the long post.. Chris ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:26:58 -0600 (CST) From: MuffinHead <smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu> Subject: Re: Writing to Neil To get a letter to Neil, write to: Ask A Pro c/o Modern Drummer Magazine 870 Pompton Ave. Cedar Grove, NJ 07009 ATTN: Neil Peart Don't just write bunches of letters asking him about mohawks and boat gangsters. They should relate to drumming. Otherwise, I feel Modern Drummer would dump them. To my knowledge, the preceding is not MD's policy, but I'd hate to lose Ask A Pro due to an overwhelming number of "Neil, what's your favourite kind of Cap'n Crunch?" letters. Muff ___________________________________________________________________________ smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu -=<*>=- MuffinHed@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 15:29:51 EST From: os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.) Subject: Geddy's best bass lines My number 1 is "Turn The Page". It's difficult enough to play WITHOUT having to sing it at the same time! Cheers, Q ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:50:44 -0500 (EST) From: SEIDENBERG@MARY.FORDHAM.EDU Subject: New Producer I just heard that Rush have decdided that Rupert Hine will NOT produce the next album. Unfortunatley my source would not tell me who would produce the next record saying only that it is confidential. (I should be able to get it out of him within a couple of weeks).. However, he did confirm that the boyz will start working on new material January 15 and the target date for release is September 15. I'll post more information when I get it. Ken F. ----------------------------------------------------------
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