The National Midnight Star #563

From root Wed Nov 18 02:17 1992 Received: by wake.ncsl.nist.gov (AIX 2.1 2/4.03) id AA02137; Wed, 18 Nov 92 02:17:44 Received: by syrinx.umd.edu (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA27941; Fri, 20 Nov 92 18:30:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 18:30:08 -0500 Message-Id: <9211202330.AA27941@syrinx.umd.edu> Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu Subject: 11/20/92 - The National Midnight Star #563 Status: R
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** List posting/followup: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Administrative matters: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu or rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu (Administrative postings to the posting address will be ignored!) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The National Midnight Star, Number 563 Friday, 20 November 1992 Today's Topics: Administrivia Rarities tape flat lines Enough is enough! T-shirts and "alternative" spellings xanadu Clouds on the inside of RTB Plunging in...... More on the Thumb in RTB back cover artwork... Dream Theater, CD and T-shirts Face In Hemispheres T-shirts Tablature... Modern Drummer 1980 T-Shirts T-Shirts Re: 11/10/92 - The National Midnight Star #555 Neil's Solo and Rolling Stone NMS CD TNMS CD update #4 Welp... CDs, Shirts, & stuff ooooppps!! Random thoughts... Take this discussion to email... just a few things... discs and T-shirts Shirts _Success Under Pressure_ bootleg rush Shirts, "footwear" A scam ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 From: rush-mgr Subject: Administrivia This will be the first/last/ONLY warning about this: from now on, any post that mentions the Neil/gay post will be REMOVED. Not just edited, but deleted. I think that discussion has gone on far too long, since it was most likely just a scam anyways, and we don't need 20 posts all talking about how it is a scam. So just remember, you have been warned... ;) Also I think it's pretty useless and takes up space to post "Take this discussion to e-mail" -- it would make more sense to either skip through that post, or mail the person(s) involved directly. - rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:10:43 -0500 (EST) From: Ethan Evan Prater <prater@YALE.EDU> Subject: Rarities tape Kudos to Derek Lichter for finally mentioning the sensible idea of making a rarities tape rather than compact disc. While the disc idea is flashy, it is considerably more expensive, more difficult to get by with legally, and more time consuming. Knowing the length of time it takes to get things on this list to happen, most of us would probably have graduated or be somehow else out of the TNMS loop by the time the CD finally got here. I would suggest a rarities tape (or tapes) similar to that of many other mailing lists, most recently the Police list. I would expect this idea has come up before on TNMS, but to my knowledge has never been implemented. One person, preferably already with high-quality copies of the tracks, would volunteer to make the masters on DAT, then a sort of regional distribution system could go into effect, to ease the burden on the compiler and insure everyone gets at least second generation copies. I can explain it more if anyone's interested (ha), and I will volunteer to help somehow, though I don't have a DAT player. TNMS wouldn't have to stick to 74 minutes then, either (the Sting rarities collection on the Police mailing list is four 90-minute tapes long). I'm sorry for the length. BTW, I think the "Xanadu" discussion is the most interesting thread going right now. TNMS -- where else can you find T-shirts, tapes, slander, and philosophy all in the same place? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ethan Evan Prater | "The sign of Eth is rising in the air..." | prater@yale.edu | -- Rush -- By-Tor and the Snow Dog -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 19 Nov 1992 18:38:16 -0600 (CST) From: Flax <TBEAUDOIN@VAX1.UMKC.EDU> Subject: flat lines Not only would the change from "flat lines" to Permanent Waves be justified because of the PeW album name, it also seems to me readily apparent that perhaps an even better analogy would be VITAL SIGNS. In fact, doesn't the Vital Signs video show an EKG or such at the beginning of the video? Thomas Beaudoin my high school students can't believe i am a Rush fanatic. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 19 Nov 92 19:48:49 EST From: Ariel Benzakein <75570.2451@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Enough is enough! About Neil and the gay bar... who the f*ck cares? First of all, the story is obviously false, but even if it weren't, SO WHAT? Why are we even talking about it? The person who started the rumors must be having a huge laugh over all of the "intelligent" discussion that followed. Ariel St. John's College Annapolis, MD ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 16:57:12 PST From: changed%robotics.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Chang... Ed Chang.) Subject: T-shirts and "alternative" spellings About the T-Shirts: How about a poll to determine the design, quote, and color? I personally like the tabloid idea of the summer, and I don't really like the designs on syrinx now (too computer-ish, looks like it was done on a Mac in an hour). As for the quote, I prefer Ian's suggestion off Hemispheres: "Let the truth of love..." I have a feeling that Meg's "We've got Mars..." quote is going to win out, though. As for color, _red_ of course. David Arnold writes: > I just thought it was interesting that the only two posts reporting > "positive evidence" of Neil being gay *came from the same sight*? I dunno. I sometimes have a second "sight"... Ed ---------------------------------------------------------- From: prbarr@mail.wm.edu (Barrett Paul Robert) Date: 19 Nov 92 20:04:22 Subject: xanadu I keep hearing all this stuff about telling people to shut up about Xanadu. I am learning a lot and seeing things from a perspective that otherwise I would not take. I encourage talk about interpretations of songs and related topics. Keep it up! I think we have a consensus for the shirt and the CD, let's get them. -Paul Barrett (PRBARR@mail.WM.edu) yes, william and mary, producing the best educated alcoholics since 1693. "With a heart and mind united, in a single, perfect, sphere." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: jewright@mtu.edu (JASON WRIGHT) Subject: Clouds on the inside of RTB Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 20:07:01 EST Howdy... Hmmm...Yeah....I see the the cloud formation that's been mentioned before. And, yes, it does look like a thumb. Personally though, I think someone's been smoking a little too much loco-weed. I think it's a cloud and a curious coicidence. Mebbe that's just me tho...:) -PeeWee PeeWee's 1st rule of integration: When all else fails, get a bigger hammer! What crawls on maggots when they die? Email: jewright@mtu.edu Phone: (313) 656-0900 Math undergrad - Michigan Technological University "The worst sex I ever had was still pretty good." -Woody Allen ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Wayne Torman <wayneto@microsoft.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 729 15:45:14 PST Subject: Plunging in...... >.... and no Neil Peart jokes about my subject line!!!!!! This is my first post and already I'm stirring up trouble and being long-winded.......sorry! Shirt - Yes... aqua Logo - Good idea, preferably front and back. Lyrics are appropriate.... how about "each of us- a cell of awareness" or "Our world could use this beauty, just think what we might do!" or (finally) "Why are we here? BECAUSE WE'RE HERE!" (Well, _I_ like them!) Please somebody answer this....... At the end of "I Think I'm Going Bald" WHAT THE HECK is Geddy saying? I hope this hasn't already been adressed, but I've been DYING to know this for about 13 years. My only guesses are "Go home, guitar player" or "Don't hurt yourself" (of course these REALLY sound alike don't they? I guess it is subject to aural interpretation!) If this is an old topic, direct mail would be MOST acceptable.... anything to get this answered! Next, does anyone have any more info on Rush in Seattle? That's where I live and I (being a sensible mature adult) probably would go and hang outside Ann and Nancy's studio for hours on end waiting to catch a mere glimpse of the boyz! And finally, another poll suggestion that I have long thought about and now, finally, have the opportunity to pursue if the rest of you are interested. I'm curious what the average profile of our SECOND favorite bands would look like. I think it would be interesting in terms of defining just what it is about Rush that each of us really likes, since the correlation between 1st and 2nd favorites would probably point out clearly just what that primary motivator is, i.e. bass, drums, lyrics, unpredictable segues, high-pitched vocals (for you Yes fans!), etc. (Just kidding Yes fans, I like them, too!) I, for one, place my vote (for _2nd_ place, mind you) in favor of Jethro Tull. Any takers out there for this? Wayne Torman (wayneto@microsoft.com) "Those who choose not to decide still have made a choice!" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:01:57 EST From: Mike <MWEINTR@american.edu> Subject: More on the Thumb in RTB back cover artwork... Thanks to Ross Goldstein at Cornell for supporting my revalation about the hitching thumb in the RTB artwork... I think that the purpose of it (if it is not just a mere coincidence, but I doubt that, it's too obvious/convienient not to be intentional) is to clearly tie in with the lyrics to "Dreamline", about hitchiking and exploring the world and all... Also, Glen "Trroy": who wrote Cinderella Man? :) Slainte mhath, Mike (note the absence of QQZ in my .sig--Thanks to all who corrected me!) :) ************************************************************* *\ / ___ __ * Mike Weintraub, aka Jvi on IRC (usually) * * \/ ___ |_ `* mweintr@american.edu "Poli Sci and Proud" * * / ___ \ * The American University, Washington, DC * */ / * "Courageous convictions will drag the * * \___/ * dream into existence" -Rush, 'Vital Signs' * ************************************************************* * Brought to you by the letter 'M' and the number '3' * ************************************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:06:34 EST From: Mike <MWEINTR@american.edu> Subject: Dream Theater, CD and T-shirts Skip (and all other Dream Theater fans in the DC area), The guy you met in the lobby at the Bayou the other night was not the guitarist for Dream Theater, but the guitarist for the local band Cathedral, who is the openners for DT on the 10/Dec gig at the Bayou... I forget the guitarists name, but he is a grad student here at AU!!! (and my friends former RA).... Make sure you check out Cathedral when they open up for Dream Theater, they will be going on stage around 8:30pm that night, so get there early... Back to Rush: The NMS CD is cool, I'd be happy to volunteer the following pieces for it: Take Off that Northern Lights song I can't remember right now The Spirit of Baseball (Geddy's added "one likes to believe in the freedom of baseball" ad lib line into The Spirit of Radio on 15/3/1985, in at the Hollywood Sportatorium (RIP) in Hollywood, FL) Battlescar Natural Science (from the 14/2/1980 St. Louis bootleg that is pretty popular but everyone wants this song on the CD) (I have about 45 minutes of Rush Rarities tacked onto the end of the copies of _Over the Europe_ I have been making for the net, so it's easily compiled) About the T-shirts: How could the Star on the Front be any colour besides Red? "Hold the Red Star proudly high in hand" (!!!) I also vote for the "A spirit with a vision is a dream with a mission" quote on the back... Enough ramblings... Slainte mhath, Mike ************************************************************* *\ / ___ __ * Mike Weintraub, aka Jvi on IRC (usually) * * \/ ___ |_ `* mweintr@american.edu "Poli Sci and Proud" * * / ___ \ * The American University, Washington, DC * */ / * "Courageous convictions will drag the * * \___/ * dream into existence" -Rush, 'Vital Signs' * ************************************************************* * Brought to you by the letter 'M' and the number '3' * ************************************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 19 Nov 1992 21:21:30 -0500 (EST) From: I WILL MAKE IT A FELONY TO DRINK SMALL BEER <STU_NESHUE@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU> Subject: Face In Hemispheres Responding to Glen Reed's assertion about the face on the dude's shoulder: If you have a poster of the Hemispheres album cover (these are pretty rare, I think) then you can see something that can be easily *construed* to be a face. As to whether it really is, well it seems a perception call. Nate ObootRQ: "I just want to sing...lalalalalala" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:11:40 -0600 (CST) From: RKB6116@SUMMA.TAMU.EDU (MR. WEATHER) Subject: T-shirts I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but if the t-shirt idea ever gets off the ground, I think they should be 100% cotton. Personally, I don't really like 50/50 (cotton/polyester) t-shirts. Maybe I'm being picky, but it's something to think about. :) Mr. Weather <> aka Ken Blair <> rkb6116@zeus.tamu.edu <> Aggieland USA ---------------------------------------------------------- From: t_pierog@oz.plymouth.edu (Thomas S. Pierog) Subject: Tablature... Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 23:07:28 EST Howdy, I am wondering if anyone might have guitar tablature to 'Broon's Bane' as it is a lovely piece and I would love to learn it. Even if someone has the music with just the chords in tablature, that would help immeasurably. Any info e-mail me at: T_pierog@oz.plymouth.edu Thanks in advance, T. Pierog "When I radiate more heat than light..." N.P. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:07 PST From: CIS463604@axe.humboldt.edu Subject: Modern Drummer 1980 Does anyone happen to have the April/May 1980 issue of Modern Drummer. ? I believe that Neil is on the cover. I noticed this was not transcribed at Syrinx. If anyone has this, I would _really_ appreciate if someone transcribed and posted it. Thanks! Derek cis463604@axe.humboldt.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 00:21:44 -0500 From: ROBERT KIRK <rkirk@alcor.concordia.ca> Subject: T-Shirts I have reading the ideas for the shirts. So everything is pretty good. Here is my best idead to get everything together.  ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 00:36:56 -0500 From: ROBERT KIRK <rkirk@alcor.concordia.ca> Subject: T-Shirts I like everyone's ideas but we need to combine them. How 'bout: Logo and star with man on the front like Meg said then on the back put The National Midnight Star Rush-Mgr@Syrinx.umd.edu (Quote) I am still not sure about which quote I like. I want a quote but the only one that I like so far is "We have Mars on the horizon" Technically I would like to put my favorite quote but it's too long... "Better the pride that resides in a citizen of the world... "Than the pride that divides, when a colorful rag is unfurled" It wouldn't fit on the shirt. A grey shirt with black writing and graphics would look good I think. I think Mars on the Horizon is our best bet. Meg-- I you are having trouble getting the time to get this together, i would be happy to help out - maybe even get the shirt made here. Drop me a line if you want. See ya folks. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 01:56:10 -0500 From: Stephen Robinson Kutner <srkutner@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Subject: Re: 11/10/92 - The National Midnight Star #555 In response to the postings on Worst Rush (perhaps a new thread?) Yes, Take A Friend is pretty bad, but my absolute least favorite is Twilight Zone. Yes, I appreciate how Neil bothered to actually use three real episodes, but the musical attempt to emulate-without-adopting the TZ theme, including Geddy's insipid "na-na-na, na-na-na-na" is downright annoying. Also: "Lessons," after the clean-guitar stanzae at the beginning (which are very cool), degenerates into a silly-sounding mutation of song styles. Feel free to respond with your own. Rob ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremy Alan Oddo <jeremy@ecst.csuchico.edu> Subject: Neil's Solo and Rolling Stone Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 0:21:12 PST Neil's solo: Well, you were pretty close. He DOES trigger horns with pads on his left and right. The marimba sound, however, is played on an electric device called a KAT. The KAT is layed out just like a Xylaphone, but instead of it being made of wood, it is made out of "pads". These pads are lined up like the keys on a piano (I believe Neil has a 1 octive KAT unit). He also has a small (3 inch or so) pad between the two most center toms--it looks like a small Simmons pad. I think he nicknamed it "Simon". Another new addition is the pedals. They are similar to bass drum pedals, but instead of the beater of the pedal striking a bass drum, it strikes a pad. This allows him to play _any_ sampled sound with his feet. He uses this during "Scars". He plays percussion on this electric toms while playing the snare drum with his left foot (like the drummer from Def Leppard--only 1 x 10^30 harder!). I think all the drummers out there will agree that it's pretty tough! Who ever made the comment on Rolling Stone: I FULLY AGREE!! They need some new critics--hopefully people that actually know something about music. Jer ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:53:05 -0500 From: Scott David Daly <skipdaly@wam.umd.edu> Subject: NMS CD Hi all. I really like the idea about offering to up the price on the cd and donate the extra $ to the band's fav charity. It also would be appropriate to ask if anyone has access to a studio...or at least some studio equipment? This could be used for "cleaning up" (as much as is possible) some of the boot recordings (assuming the band ISN'T willing to contribute old, rare, live recordings). I vote that we put the non-live, good sound quality stuff like Battlescar, the first single and b-side, and pieces of eight on there, BUT I also say we should put the old live songs that were rarely played live on there (stuff like The Twilight Zone, The Necromancer, and Cinderella Man). It all comes down to this: does anyone have ANY contacts at Anthem, the crew, or with the band that can be contacted so we can at least get them to hear us out? If nobody does, then it doesn't matter who calls...I can call if you want...if nobody pipes up with anything in a few days, I'll try to make the call... This whole idea sounds farfetched, but I think the band will appreciate the fact that we are devoted fans and that we are polite enough to ask their blessing on this...the charity idea will help as well, I'm sure! SKIP ---------------------------------------------------------- From: frick@cs.utexas.edu (Baltasar Allende Reva) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:50:49 -0600 Subject: TNMS CD update #4 hi everyone, seeing such great responses from everyone..... Here comes the TNMS CD Update #4 TNMS CD Update #4 ----------------- It seems that everyone not only wants live music, but also b-sides. Fortunetely for everyone I have an excellent '45 collection (many are promotional items for DJs). Many of these '45s have much shorter songs. I'll check my collection today and post the list on monday as far as what is avaliable. I also have UK 12" singles, with unrelease live material, and unrealease interviews, this also would be cool. Someone mention the mastering process, well I have access to a studio where a nationally recording artists record (sorry I can't give out the name, if I did, then it would be easy to find me!) We need to start taking votes, as far as what should go into this CD, and people need to tell me what rare material they have and to send it to me! I will also only accept decent quality recordings, no 500000 generation tapes. Lets do it! I'll keep everyone update it......until then later! albert ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 20 Nov 1992 10:11:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Orchestral Bloodbath <II67@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> Subject: Welp... My $4224/211200 worth on numerous subjects... Xanadu ---> or is it 'Z'anadu!? :) How about E-mail, that nice little invention which takes talk that we don't want to hear into private circles? This subject seems over-debated... Speaking of 'over-debated'... Neil's sexual orientation ---> Geez, the guy is married and has kids (I believe). I know that doesn't say that he isn't gay, but then again hanging around a gay bar doesn't either. When was the last time you called someone gay just because their friend is? T-Shirt Idea ---> This idea could fly; I love advertising the groups I associate with, especially clubs. As for a quote, I am lost on that subject. "Catch the fish..." Now that flys (the quote, not the particular fish) CD Idea ---> A good thing to put on if anyone is blessed enough by the gods to have it: Neil's reworked Rhythm Method from the RtB tour, along with Where's My Thing? (live) because of that great intro the boys did for it. To Randy 'Lerxst' ---> Nice alogorhitm for MTV there...that about sums up most radio stations as well! The only time I've ever heard a decent amount of varied Rush was when Z-Rock first came back on the air a year ago. They played at least 5 (up to around 10) Rush songs dating all the way to the first to HyF! T'was cool...now it's slow. Everyone listens to Rush at my dorm here, but yet they never play them around here. Someday the guys should write a song about being ignored...maybe that'll play! Anywayz... MMc - Matthew A. McGarity - II67@vaxb.acs.unt.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:14 EST From: THE ARCHER - HIT ME IN THE BULLSEYE BABE <JJARNOT1%ITHACA.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu> Subject: CDs, Shirts, & stuff About the CD: I'm an audio major at a college with DAT machines comingout of our collective ears. If you guys really want a DAT copy made, I can do it myself with relatively good quality. Write me at: jjarnot1@Ithaca.bitnet if interested. About the shirt: Great Idea! I want one! But I also have connections with Buffalo area printers on discounts & stuff. Just a thought! Sammy Jarnot "MOOG_WOMAN" "Why are we here?"- Neil "For the Beer!" -Geddy ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:32 EST From: THE ARCHER - HIT ME IN THE BULLSEYE BABE <JJARNOT1%ITHACA.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu> Subject: ooooppps!! I forgot (mgr can tack this on to my last bit if you want), I'm a jock on an Ithaca station, and Sunday Dec.6 I'm doing a 3 hour show highlighting the career of Rush. Anybody who wants a copy, I'll be willing to tape you one. Write me at : jjarnot1@Ithaca.bitnet Sammy Jarnot ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:46 EST From: AAWST3@vms.cis.pitt.edu Subject: Random thoughts... Greetings and salutations! Just a couple comments here.... 1) CD's. How about the possibility of a TNMS CD of rare stuff, a separate TNMS CD for rare live stuff, and a third TNMS CD of everything that's left over? Or maybe just skip that third one, and have two different discs? I'd go for it (obviously, or I wouldn't have posted this!). I'd also vote we make the recordings as high quality as we can, even if it means a little extra work or $. Anyone that's really interested in this stuff will probably be willing to go the extra distance to do it right. 1a) Observation on CD talk on TNMS. This kinda reminds me of the Monty Python movie _The Life OF Brian_, where all those terrorist guys sit around and talk about how they need to take action and quit talking. /| / | Geddy -----> :/ | ) 2)In response to Tadd Jensen's post, I think it would be cool to have a EKG PeW-like "line" instead of the "----" in between posts. At least, it would be an interesting change of pace. Only possible problem (well, two of 'em, really) a) can it be done (although I have faith in our omniscent and omnipotent rush-mgr!), and b) would it take up too much space, using the extra 2-3 lines between posts for that? I know the length of these issues is important to some people (although I have no problems there). Maybe just for a few issues, like on a trial basis. 3) Randy Kaelber ---- Great computer program there! I laughed, I cried, it was much better than Cats. I'd see it again and again. (Kudos!) 4) Well, I've babbled enough. Later, all! -------------- Al Wolf AAWST3@vms.cis.pitt.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Maurer <jdm@sequent.com> Subject: Take this discussion to email... Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 10:28:26 PST I'm having trouble understanding why some nms posters feel the need to police submissions. I think Meg is the ultimate policy maker in this regard. It seems like no matter what the topic is, within a week or so we start seeing, "Enough of this <blah blah> thread, take it to email you <blah>!". Meanwhile the poster goes on with something equally inane like, "Has anyone listened to 03.13 on "Open Secrets" where I think I'm hearing either a dog barking or a truck backfiring. Could it be that the dog/truck connection first brought to like in "I think I'm Going Bald" is... <blah blah>.", or "Could Alex be triggering the bark/backfire from a sampled SynDominatorII or is he simply moving his lips while Geddy does a very impressive ventriloquism?" I enjoyed the "First Time" thread, even after it was getting a lot of hate mail. I don't care about the Xanadu thread, but obviously some people do. Let's face it, without new albums or an ongoing tour, there just isn't a lot about Rush that isn't inane to *someone*. I say live and let live. If you don't like a thread, hit spacebar and pick up on something else! / Jeff Maurer, Sr. Analyst _ ___/ _ __ Service Applications, Sequent Computer Systems, Inc. / / / / / / Uucp: ...!uunet!sequent!jdm / /__/_/ / Internet: jdm@sequent.com __/ (503) 578-5062 ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 13:49:31 -0500 From: "Eric A. Furie" <eafurie@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Subject: just a few things... I'm a new one here folks, with just a few questions that might or might not have already come up. I also wanna say a few t'ings. First off, can anyone confirm or deny the rumors of a new album in December. They have been rampant in my neck of the woods. But even the most knowledgable here are clueless! Im pretty much dyin' to know. As for the "Neil stuff", I've gotten only 2 copies of NMS and I'm SICK of it. Drop it. Who cares?!?!?! He's incredible - as are they all - so what does it matter?!?!? The CD idea sounds great!! I highly reccomend, however, getting FULL permisions! To do anything else means near certain death. Trust me, I know from experience, and with a much less renown group. If they're game however, I'd bePSYCHED. It'd be pretty cool if it was pretty long, too (i.e. more than like 6 songs)? I'm pretty clueless on the shirt idea, but sounds good! And please...I'm dyin' to know about the latest on upcoming albums/tours. Thanx!!! -Eric Furie P.S. - I apologize r not having any cool graphics or quotes down here. Guess I got some work to do! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 12:48:18 EST From: "Cygnus X-2 (Gerry Good)" <J455%NEMOMUS.bitnet@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU> Subject: discs and T-shirts Hello All, As far as the rarities/live CD goes, I think it's a great idea. I also agree with whoever suggested calling Anthem, although if I recall correctly previous attempts to do something like this haven't worked. I also have an idea for some songs for the CD....since I dislike buying 'greatest hits' albums by bands when I have their whole catalog ond disc, I was wondering if anyone else would like to see the live versions of 'What You're doing' and 'A Passage to Bangkok' from ATWAS and ESL on the NMS CD. Also, I think 'Vital Signs' and 'Natural Science' live versions would be good candidates for the CD. As far as the T-shirts, I have a really cool Primus T-shirt that has a picture of the band on the back. I think something along the same lines would be cool for Rush. I don't know if it is possible to use their image (picture) on a shirt, however, without getting into legal hassles. We could have 'The National Midnight Star' on the front, with the picture and 'rush@syrinx...' on the back. Well what do you think? I don't have much more to say except...nate, where are my tapes! :) Gerry Good / / / / /  / / /  / / / /   /   /  // / / ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 14:16:16 -0500 From: meg (******* Meg *******) Subject: Shirts Thanks to all who have been giving me ideas/offering help! I'm going to check around at some printers tomorrow to see how much it'll be and what it'll look like all printed out. Here's how the shirt will (most) probably look: Front Back ------ ------ The National Midnight Star Rush Internet Mailing List (star logo) _______________________ rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu "We've got Mars on the horizon..." __________________________________________________________________________ The star logo will have a RED star, rather than the gray that's in the gif now, and the shirt color will either be white, gray, or some blue color. The "Rush" is done in a pseudo-script, kinda like from Hemispheres, "Mailing List" is in a solid black, and the "rush-mgr" and quote will be in a newspaper-like font. The way I have it, now there's something with Rush on both the front and back of the shirt. Look here in a few days for a price and shirt color. -Meg meg@syrinx.umd.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:17:43 -0500 (EST) From: Ethan Evan Prater <prater@YALE.EDU> Subject: _Success Under Pressure_ It appears the older, non-_Visions_ books written about Rush are becoming out of print, hard-to-find, etc. At least I've had a hard time finding them. If anyone is interested, Mail Box Music has the 1984 book _Success Under Pressure_ available for $4.95 (plus $3.50 S&H). I wrote to the publisher of this book some time ago and never got a response; I've never seen it in a store, either. The telephone number for this place is (800) 331-5269. This is probably one of those things everybody but me has, but I thought I'd throw it out, anyway. If anyone has an extra copy of the of the 1982 book _Rush_, I'd be interested in getting it from you, or even of hearing where I could get it. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ethan Evan Prater | "The sign of Eth is rising in the air..." | prater@yale.edu | -- Rush -- By-Tor and the Snow Dog -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: bootleg rush Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 15:55:42 -0500 From: wilsonjc@expert.cc.purdue.edu I was just wondering, could anyone direct me to where I might find bootleg and rare recordings of rush. I'd appreciate any responses. Also: a shirt and cd are great ideas, I'd buy a couple of each. Thanks in advance. John ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 20 Nov 1992 13:16:22 -0800 (PST) From: Five Balls and an Attitude <JEDMONDS@HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU> Subject: Shirts, "footwear" Hi all, First off, TNMS t-shirts: Sounds good! I'll buy a few. Color preference lies in the black shirt/red ink range, both due to personal taste and the color scheme of 2112 and ATWAS. As for a quote, my personal favorite is "Those who know what's best for us - must rise and save us from ourselves." :-) As for a TNMS CD, I say go for it! Now! (Before it fades into the woodwork.) I have no real resources to help in the production currently, but moral support is freely available. A question for all you "Footwear" CD owners. I noticed that the current boot list (last I looked) did not have "A New Reality", a boot I picked up a week or so ago. It's a recording (very, very good sound quality, with some interview overdubs at the beginnings of some tracks) of the Montreal Forum show, May 1981. It doesn't come in a jewel case, but in a high quality fold out cardboard case, with pictures from (assumably) the show, etc. Highly recommended. Hemispheres/ ATWAS: I see the face! I see the face! (To me it looks like the three dimples below the guy's shoulder are an eye, a big clown nose, and the corner of a mouth. from there the face just sort of "jumps out".) Oh yeah, last thing: good seat acquisition. For the RTB tour, I saw them in the LA Forum center section, row 1, seat 4. (Right in front of Geddy. :-) I got this ticket (and seats 1-3) by getting in line at a Music Plus locally (Ticketmaster outlet), and having first place in line. The way it works around here (to prevent campouts and the problems that sometimes arise, esp. in the LA area), the Ticketmaster locations locally give out random bracelets with numbers on them at 8, and then draw "first bracelet" at 5 till 9. So I took four friends, we got five random bracelets, and one was "first". The register man was kind enough to take our order early, and have it all ready to transmit exactly at 9. :-) (Hard to do this usually, I got lucky once.) Good show, though, for $40. (The floor tickets cost $40 here. From TicketMaster. Groan. Ah, well. Enjoy! Jeremy jedmonds@hmcvax.claremont.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: becker@boilerbob.corp.mot.com (John Becker) Subject: The scam Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 11:02:22 CST I agree totally with David Arnold's posting in NMS #562 about the individuals at ac.grin.edu and the origins of the "Neil is gay" stories. In my mind, the issue is not whether or not Neil is gay, but rather that it seems very likely that a few of our readers have intentionally caused a ruckus in this newsletter in a most irresponsible and cruel way. While the first two posts were represented as hearsay, ("A friend of mine told me..."), the third one which mentioned a publication called Screen Stars, allegedly published in Kansas City, was easily checked and found to be fictitious. Ulrich's International Periodical Directory has no listing for such a publication. The reference librarian at my local public library also checked several other data bases and found nothing. I called directory assistance in Kansas City, and they have no such listing anywhere in that area. Unfortunate though it may be, it is a fact that in our society there is a stigma associated with being gay. It's bad enough that people who really are gay have to endure this. To dump this on a person to whom it does not apply is totally indefensible. To do it to a person that you presumably admire and respect defies understanding. The last thing we need is for these rumors to gain wider circulation and possibly get back to Neil. What do you think Rush will think about the NMS if that happens? Guys, if you have any conclusive proof to substantiate these stories, especially the last one, come forward with it NOW. If I am wrong about this, I will apologize to all three of you. If you can't substantiate them, then I think you owe an apology to all NMS readers. This may have started out as a joke, but I don't think it is the least bit funny, and it has certainly gotten out of hand. John ----------------------------------------------------------
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