The National Midnight Star #545

From root Sun Oct 25 06:09 1992 Received: by wake.ncsl.nist.gov (AIX 2.1 2/4.03) id AA00269; Sun, 25 Oct 92 06:09:49 Received: by syrinx.umd.edu (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA18548; Tue, 27 Oct 92 18:30:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 92 18:30:10 -0500 Message-Id: <9210272330.AA18548@syrinx.umd.edu> Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu Subject: 10/27/92 - The National Midnight Star #545 Status: R
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DOUBLE NECKS Tape Case makers, my $.02 on 2112 Live recording questions Neil Peart cameos for two songs on a Candian Groups Album ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Oct 1992 18:46:11 -0500 (EST) From: I WILL MAKE IT A FELONY TO DRINK SMALL BEER <STU_NESHUE@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU> Subject: New Goldmine Advertising Policy Just a small note to those of us who look to Goldmine for our "rare" Rush stuff. They've changed their policy so that the only people who can advertise specifics on shows (audio or video) are those selling the import boot CDs. I don't know where the pressure is coming from, but from these radical changes, it must be somebody or some group with some serious weight to throw around. All you'll see now is people advertising themselves, and you have to send them a LSASE and so forth to get their list. Kind of a bummer; Goldmine'll definitely lose a good portion of their subscribers (and many potential ones) for this. nate ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Oct 1992 19:42:21 -0400 (EDT) From: ASILVERM@umiami.IR.Miami.EDU Subject: Kublai Khan & Roller Skating! Hey folks! To those of you searching for the true origins of Xanadu. . .you need look no farther than your local roller rink. It is obvious from the film, which was released shortly after AFTK and was obviously dealing with the same subject matter. For those of you who go on long car rides, here is my latest tape creation: Side 1: Xanadu, By-Tor & The Snow Dog, The Fountain Of Lamneth, Natural Science Side 2: 2112, Cygnus X-1: The Voyage, Cygnus X-1: Hemispheres, Need Some Love This fits very nicely onto a 100-minute tape. There's also room for the 2 1/2 minute tune of yer choice at the end of side 1. (Perhaps the latest EARWURM single?) Libertarianistically yours, Aaron ASILVERM@UMIAMI P.S. Marrou/Lord in '92!!! Down with politics!!! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Tero Valkonen <d40374w@kaira.hut.fi> Subject: Terry Brown credit in p/g booklet Date: Sat, 24 Oct 92 16:22:39 EET Someone didn't know what the message to Broon in the p/g booklet says, since it's in French. Well, here it is. "and always our good old friend - Broon" et (and) toujours (always) notre (our) bon (good) vieille (old; and this is grammatically wrong, it should be vieux) ami (friend). Who the hell is Rush Limbaugh? Someone mentioned it in yesterday's TNMS. -- Tero Valkonen d40374w@kaira.hut.fi ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Oct 92 09:52:06 EST From: Gerry Good <J455%NEMOMUS.bitnet@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU> Subject: p/g liner notes translated! Hello All, Owen K., in the last ish, made note of the reference to Terry Brown in the p/g liner notes. It goes like this... "Mille mercis a...et toujours notre bon vieille ami--Broon." which translated means... "A thousand thank yous to .... and always our good old friend--Broon." Sorry, nothing too exciting. Gerry Good -- j455%nemomus@academic.nemostate.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: chub@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Charles Ray) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1992 03:12:28 +1000 Subject: Liner of p/g After reading the post about the GUP liner notes, I re-read them to check it out and rolled around the floor for a while laughing at where thanks are given to Ann Uumellmahaye & Dr Hfuhruhurr. RUSH must be Steve Martin fans as well! :-) -- . . "You say times are tough, U Charles Ray we've got the best of both (-) chub@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au worlds here." -- Midnight Oil ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1992 16:09:15 -0500 From: Jason Crawford <me12792@camelot.bradley.edu> Does anyone know why it always seems to be Geddy and Alex giveing interviews and why the entire band rarely is all together for an interview? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [][][][][] [][] [][] [][][][][] [][] -- "Rush. They must have been [][] [][] [][] [][] [][] -- one hell of a band." [][] [][] [][] [][][][][] [][][][][] -- -Father Brown, 2112. [][] [][] [][] [][] [][] [][] ------------------------------- [][] [][][][][] [][][][][] [][] [][] -- me12792@camelot.bradley.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rwschw@mail.wm.edu (Schwenke Roger Wyckoff) Date: 20 Oct 92 12:14:19 Subject: Freewill I saw my letter about the Rush tribute band Freewill dissected in the last NMS so I figured I would clear up what seem to be inconsistencies. When I saw them play, they were opening for Wrathchild America. In fact, I had no idea there would be an opening band, much less a Rush tribute band. I kept careful track of what they played because I knew most of my friends would want to know about it. However, I can understand if they trimmed thier set a little to open for a band like Wrathchild. Like most bands they probably play slightly different things at different shows, and I'm sure they're great if they ever headline. But when I saw them as an opening act, all they played were songs of MP, Zepclone songs, medleys and originals. Please correct me again if any of this is wrong, I don't want anyone to be misinformed (most of all me). Further information about the band (maybe tour dates, or if they ever headline etc.) would also be great. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Oct 92 12:33:28 -0500 From: nam2@po.CWRU.Edu (Nicholas A. Mascari) Subject: Freewill and Dream Theatre and 2112 > 2nd: I might be interested in checking out the RUSH cover >band "Freewill" (especially if they play Natural Science!). Anybody >have any tour dates for them?... Also, whoever posted about their >album: does it have ALL original stuff or some Rush covers on there >too? I wouldn't mind getting a copy of that album if somebody out >there has it...please email me...thanks! Their album contains all original material. I believe they only sell it at their gigs. Last time I saw them was last year, and they were selling tapes for $10. They only cover Rush live. In fact, what they do is play about 45 minutes of their own material, take a 10-15 minute break, then come back and play about an hour and a half of Rush. I have the album...email me if you want a copy. As long as I get it with return postage included I'll make you a copy. Hey, that Dream Theatre show I went to was AWESOME. These guys are going to be big. If they come around your area, go see them!! They reminded me of Queensryche more than anything. But they are a very good progressive band with influences from Rush, Yes, and woth the hardness of Metallica at times. The album is hard to find, though. In fact, their first one is out of print. They are trying to get their new label to re-release it. I had to have a record store order Images and Words for me...but it only took a couple days to get. :) I'm glad I went to see them, cuz they're gonna be big, and now I can say I saw them when still doing the bar scene. Plus I'll have a very early tour shirt too! :) Whoever was discussing a Dream Theatre newsgroup.... I'm intersted, so email me.... And my opinion: He DOES commit suicide. It even says so in B-mans book, and he worked very closely with Rush in writing it, but even without that I think it's painfully obvious. --- [][][] [] [] [][][] [] Nick Mascari - Case Western Reserve Univ. [] [] [] [] [] General Electric Lighting [] [] [] [][][] [][][] Lambda Kappa-Beta of Beta Theta Pi [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [][][] [][][] [] [] "Drink Beer....Live Longer!!" - Me ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 25 Oct 92 16:07:33 EST From: Brian.J.Wolf@Dartmouth.EDU Subject: Rupert Hine Just thought I'd mention it... As I sat down to watch _Better Off Dead_ (a 1985 comedy), I noticed a peculiar thing: As the opening credits were rolling, up popped "original score by Rupert Hine"! Just some useless Rush-related trivia humbly submitted for approval. Brian Wolf "...drunk, happy, or a pleasant combination of the three." - KW ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Oct 92 11:24:19 BST From: CP_PWM%CMS.BRISTOL.AC.UK@ib.rl.ac.uk Subject: 2112, did he jump, or was he pushed? Hi, I always used to think the character in 2112 commited suicide, but but after reading the discussion about it here for the past week or so I'm inclined to think more in terms of the 'died of a broken heart' theory. He simply had no reason for living any more, and so just lay down and died. There may be a precedent for this too. What happens to the character at the end of the Fountain of Lamneth? I always thought that he too, either committed suicide or died of a broken heart. His entire reason for being, was to find the Fountain. After he'd done so, his life was meaningless, he had no 'dream to give his life flame'. As a result he either topped himself, or died of boredom. Right at the end of the FOL, there's a fading away of the music followed by a sudden whooshing noise as it builds up again, then stops. That could be the suicide stroke, maybe? Or maybe it's just his last breath? Any ideas? "swimming against the stream" Paul May, University of Bristol, UK ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 26 Oct 1992 08:09:50 -0500 (EST) From: STOY_CHERYL_A@LILLY.COM just a thought (along the lines of 'why not as many female RUSH fans, due to RUSH living out the fantasy lives of boys and men via their lyrics and many women might be bored w/ the topic', etc. etc.) -- i wonder how the Boyz are celebrating now, as what might be considered the ultimate boy's fantasy was fulfilled for them Sat. night. i'm also curious as to how this might manifest itself in a song or two on the next album... whaddya think? congrats, guys! -- cheryl in indianapolis (where we had another ultimate fantasy fulfilled sun. afternoon -- sorry, dolphins fans! :-) :-) ) stoy@lilly.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: MOLIVA@gab.unt.edu Date: 26 Oct 92 10:43:50 CST6 Subject: DOUBLE NECKS I have two things: A) The scenes with the double neck in the Limelite video are indeed from the Xanadu video. I don't know why they included it, but that's where it's from. B) If you listen to A Passage To Bangkok, there are parts during the chorus, where the is really grungey rhythm guitar, but no bass (and there is also lead guitar - again no bass). And then during other parts of the song there is bass but no guitar (save the lead guitar). Why would Geddy not play bass during these parts? Probably because he is playing the rhythm parts on a six string (( oh, he also has a twleve double neck)). This would make sense, since 2112 came right before AFTK. What do ya'll (I'm from Texas) think? And, also before I go - If there was enough footage to get the LA Villa video from the Pink Pop Festival, shouldn't there be other footage with the rest of the concert on it? It had to have been pro shot since there are several different camera angles and extreme close-ups. Where is the rest of this film and can anybody get a copy of it? Why was it shot in the first place? Who shot it? Do you think Anthem knows? Do you think the band knows? Is anyone willing to investigate? ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1992 12:29 EDT From: THAT WAS DAN QUAYLE DEBATING?? <CTHURROT@PEARL.TUFTS.EDU> Subject: Tape Case makers, my $.02 on 2112 There is a very good freeware Cassete Liner program available from ftp.cica.indiana.edu. I believe the filename to get is cliner14.zip. It is in the directory /pub/pc/win3/util (not sure about util, they move stuff a lot down there). It requires Microsquish Windows 3.x but not a postscript printer, you should see what I can do with my ten year old Panasonic 9 pin printer. On the subject of the protagonist of 2112 and his metabolic state at the end of the song, I thought that it was fairly obvious that he committed the big ESL (nod to whoever said that first, :)) _just_ before the cavalry (elder race) arrived. So I think that one interpretation can be that the lyricist was trying to say suicide is not the answer, hold out a little longer and everything will be ok. There will never be an answer to this question because it is a work of art and it is meant to provoke discussion and thought for each induvidual, so that they can take what they want from it. So I am. -Chris "Cosmic is largely comic..." ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1992 15:24:21 -0500 (EST) From: By-Tor <prater@YALE.EDU> Subject: Live recording questions Is the Rush recording _Atmospheric_ (Holland 1992) the same as _Over the Europe_? If not, is _Atmospheric_ worth getting? What is known about _Bone the Rolls_, another live recording? Is it good, are there different titles of the same show? Thanks for your help. For anyone who is interested, I'm compiling a list of American dealers in live recordings. Mail me for a copy or with any additions. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ethan Evan Prater | | "The sign of Eth is rising in the air..." prater@minerva.cis.yale.edu | praethe@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu | -- Rush -- By-Tor and the Snow Dog -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 00:01:16 -0500 From: Christopher Mermagen <cmermag@wam.umd.edu> Subject: Neil Peart cameos for two songs on a Candian Groups Album 1st: Bytor for president... I'd vote for him.. He really knew how to kick som ass. 2nd: Peart plays on two songs for a Canadian group called Rheostatics.? The article for the review of this album is in the current Drummmer magazine.. They said that Peart gets his ya-yas out in one song and the other is just as good. They say that with peart on the album, it is just the icing on the cake... >..by the way, that is Modern Drummer magazine. Chris ----------------------------------------------------------
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