The National Midnight Star #535

From root Tue Oct 13 19:02 1992 Received: by wake.ncsl.nist.gov (AIX 2.1 2/4.03) id AA01322; Tue, 13 Oct 92 19:02:49 Received: by syrinx.umd.edu (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA19659; Tue, 13 Oct 92 18:30:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 18:30:07 -0400 Message-Id: <9210132230.AA19659@syrinx.umd.edu> Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu Subject: 10/13/92 - The National Midnight Star #535 Status: R
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Neil sampling correction Working Man intro to concert Re: Chronicles II Opening Songs?/COS/death in 2112 Various stuff Rush Over Europe 10/10/92 - The National Midnight Star #533 Copy of RTB video and/or the Pass recordings Anthem (the book) & 2112, again 2112 Rush and Dream Theater NMS 531 Chat words Alex on ASOH (NOT censored part!!) RE: 10/08/92 - The National Midnight Star #532 more ramblings........... returned mail Address for Ludwig Poster!!! PLEASE!!!! SORRY!!!! Alex Fish Guitar ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rush-mgr <The National Midnight Star Editor> Date: Tue Oct 13 12:54:23 EDT 1992 Subject: Administrivia There was no digest yesterday 10/12/92 due to busy scheduling. Also the FAQL has arrived, the interviews with Andrew Mc Naughtan are still being transcribed, and I've decided to move all this old vs new posts to the END of the digest, so read at your own risk. There weren't any today really to speak of so, in the future they'll be at the end of every digest for those who care. That's all! rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Mermagen <cmermag@wam.umd.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 19:37:33 -0400 Subject: The new album: who is going to produce it? Since people have been talking about the new album, i just thought I would ask- who is going to produce this one?? I thought that I read an interview just recently where Geddy stated that he wanted to go back to Peter Collins and James 'Kimbo (j)' Barton... oh well- let me know Chris ---------------------------------------------------------- From: md2946@csc.albany.edu (Alex Lifeson) Subject: A few Questions... Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 19:59:29 EDT I have been a Rush fan for about 10 years and enjoy all of their music. As a recent subscriber to the NMS I have a few questions... First of all many of you have mentioned numerous songs that you have heard live, that are not on any albumn. I first saw rush on signals and have seen most of there tours since then. When were thesed played and are they available on any of the boots like Temples of Syrinx? Another point I wished to make was in the New vs. Old debate. There are various degrees of fandom(is this a real word?) and this is really an inane debate. At this instant I happen to be enjoying Hemispheres, but most of the new stuff is OK. My point is that different strokes for different folks so why argue? If you dont agree feel free to email me. One more thing...does anybody have a list of the most common bootlegs and what is on them? I would love to get a hold of early concert material. Thanx -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "the more that things change the more they stay the same" NP --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Neil sampling correction Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 17:04:23 -0700 From: gimper@leland.Stanford.EDU Hello all, I blew it in a previous posting. In TNMS #533, Greg.Andrade@um.cc.umich.edu writes: >Someone quoted the 1989 Modern Drummer interview with Neil Peart in saying >that he sampled horn kicks from a Count Basie CD and triggered them live. >Although most of your quote was accurate, it was not complete. In the >interview, Mr. Peart specifically stated that he sat down with MIDI >equipment to work out a nearly identical horn section sound to that heard >on the Basie CD. He DID NOT use actual samples from Basie. I made the original posting, and of course you are correct. For some reason or other, I didn't include the paragraph where Neil said these things. So I didn't mean to imply that Neil sampled stuff directly from CDs. I was trying to say that Neil does create all of his samples, but that I don't think the band created their own version of the Three Stooges theme. Sorry about the confusion. -- Stuart (gimper@leland.stanford.edu) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 20:32:27 EDT From: Mike <MWEINTR@AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: Working Man intro to concert Haven't posted in a while... I would like to commend whoever suggested that "Working Man" be the intro song on the next tour in the last issue... Great idea, I'd LOVE to hear Lerxst jam out that super- heavy riff in the beginning of the show... Medley song ideas: The Camera Eye, into Natural Science, into Hemispheres, into the full version of Circumstances, into By-Tor and The Snow Dog...(I could go on forever...) One more thing: BRING BACK MARATHON! "Changes aren't permantent, but change is" Mike Weintraub "The ability to destroy a planet is The American University insignificant next to the power of the mweintr@american.edu Force." -Darth Vader bbs.kenobi@goonsquad.spies.com "Thou shalt not allow Kenobi on IRC moochers into thy hut." -Homer Simpson "The point of the journey is not to arrive." -Neil Peart ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 10 Oct 1992 21:18:03 -0500 (EST) From: I WILL MAKE IT A FELONY TO DRINK SMALL BEER <STU_NESHUE@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU> Subject: Re: Chronicles II > What's the latest on "Chronicles II"? Is this confirmed that such a thing is going to be released? I had heard that it will be live material and will contain "rarities"... I read in ICE newsletter, a really good CD review rag, that there will, in fact, be a Chronicles II, with it being live Rush material. Unfortunately, I don't think there' there was a release date with the news. Nate ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 21:27:05 CDT Subject: Opening Songs?/COS/death in 2112 From: pbryant@hawk.cs.ukans.edu!the A few things... First, with all the discussion over what song Rush should open their next tour with, a question comes to mind. Don't they open with a song from the disk they are currently promoting? It seems odd to go on a Roll the Bones tour and open with something from the PW/MP era. I've never seen a Rush concert so could someone tell me if they usually open with the old or the new? If it is a new song, then the discussion seems kind of irrelevant, since the song probably isn't even written yet. Second, I'm glad to hear people praising COS lately. It truly is a fine album. Even the "silly" song (ITIGB) is pretty slick. However, am I the only one that thinks RUSH is also a very good albm? After all, it is our only real example of Alex and Geddy's work uninfluenced by Neil. It may have sounded like Zeppelin when it first came out, since Zep was big then, but I have always thought it was pretty original. At least the tone on the album was different than Zeppelin. Furthermore, while Rutsey's drumming isn't much to relish, I love the tone of his drums. They sound like a true garage band! Finally, I have a few thoughts on the latest 2112 discussion. I don't think the protagonist committed suicide. The end of 2112 features some of Geddy's most inspired vocals. When he sings "I wish that it might come to pass, not fade like all my dreams," it sounds like the protagonist is just realizing that it was a dream. This realization appears to break his heart as Geddy sings the rest ("Just think of what my life might be, in a world like I have seen...") The intensity in his voice always led me to believe that the protagonist just died of a broken heart on the spot. There are other reasons I believe this: "My spirits are low, in depths of despair. My lifeblood spills over..." This does not explicitly state that he committed suicide. "Despair" sounds like a broken heart to me. Also, "My lifeblood spills over..." is a passive statement, like it is *happening* to him, not that he is causing it to happen. "My last hope is that with my death, I may pass into the world of my dream, and know peace at last." This is the best quote for those who believe he committed suicide, but it could just as well mean that in his despair he has given up on changing the world. We know that for people who give up on life, death will come that much more quickly. He knew his death was coming and was looking forward to it as a "life" of peace (that is, no more broken heart). Also, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned how Rush never sings about suicide as the solution to *any* problem. Losing It is about an inner death when a person loses some functionality that they have always considered the very essense of their being, but our writer or dancer don't commit suicide. Rush has always been very positive. They praise the movers and shakers of the world (Bravado), but I've never heard them suggest giving up as an answer. Incidentally, my wife has always thought that 2112 was about an inner death, like Losing It, and that the protagonist does not die physically at all. Either way, it's a great album! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 11:09:26 CDT From: Tracey McCartney <TMCCART3@UA1VM.UA.EDU> Subject: Various stuff In re. Jason Packovich's wish list for set lists, I'd faint from joy if they ever decided to do "Losing It" live. They could even invite the violinist, Ben Mink, to help 'em out (although he's pretty busy as k.d. lang's partner these days). And since Erik was nice enough to type in the Mr. Big interview, I thought I'd share my Mr. Big story. I saw Rush and Mr. Big in Atlanta on the Presto tour, and during Gilbert's solo, he pulled out a power drill. He began running it up and down the strings;the crowd went wild. He raised the drill over his head; the crowd went wild. He got the drill (which was apparently still running) caught in his hair; the crowd went wild. He finally had to leave the stage, and we were close enough to the side of the stage that I could see the roadie using a Swiss army knife to remove the drill while the ever-alert Billy Sheehan came on stage to begin his solo. I never heard whether Gilbert decided to rethink his use of power tools onstage; it's a damn good thing he wasn't playing his guitar with a circular saw. I don't want to debate old v new Rush, but I have an observation from the standpoint of someone who only started listening when "Spirit of the Radio" came out. It's been kinda nice to hear Peart make the transition from cosmic, mythical themes to songs about plain ol' human relationships. (Jeez, there may even be a LOVE song in there somewhere.) Course, I'm a chick, so I guess I'm biased toward such things... [ Please keep lines to their 80 character line length! :rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- From: bubbasmith@aol.com Subject: Rush Over Europe Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 19:11:59 EDT I was looking through the most recent issue of GoldMine to find the Rush Over Europe double CD that people were impressed with. I didn't see it, but I found another new 2cd called Atmospheric Holland 5-31-92 (2 Picture CD set). Is this the same as Rush Over Europe or a different taped performace? Also I was wondering if any of you who knows of a record store that sells Rush Over Europe would be willing to buy it for me if I sent a money order and a self addressed stamped envelope. I know it's asking a lot from a stranger, but it would mean a lot to a fellow NMSer. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 20:17:27 EST From: Gerry Good <J455%NEMOMUS.bitnet@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU> Subject: 10/10/92 - The National Midnight Star #533 I haven't posted for a while so I guess I will now. First of all, I can understand wanting to hear Grand Designs, or any of the less-popular songs, on bootlegs or live. I would rather listen to Grand Designs 100 times in a row than listen to the Necromancer once. I can empathize with the band when they say that they don't like Caress of Steel, but I do like the Fountain of Lamneth. Anyway...I finally finished off my Rush collection when I bought ATWAS yesterday....Why does Geddy say "we'd like to play the first side of our new album" and then only play part of 2112? I'm just curious. Also, I was wondering if there was any point to buying Chronicles if I have every other album. I understand that there is a biography in the sleeve, but I can probably get one of the books cheaper. Also...does anyone know where I can get Visions the book? I tried ordering it at Waldenbooks and it was out of print. Well I guess I have little else to ask or contribute. How's about a new topic---what's everyone's favorite bootleg? (mainly so I know which ones I should bother to get...ha ha.) One..two..buckly my shoe. Permanent Waves is the best album! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Mermagen <cmermag@wam.umd.edu> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 22:09:58 EDT Subject: Copy of RTB video and/or the Pass Anybody in the balto/wash/College Park area have a copy of the RTB video and/or THE pass (again on video). I never did get a chance to record it when I saw it (once on MTV and several times via satellite on MUCH MUSIC). I would appreciate it. I love the computer graphics with the skeleton during the rap session.. very cool.. Thanks- Chris Mermagen 8911 59th Ave. College Park, Md. 20742 (301) 474-8932 cmermag@wam.umd.edu <=> cmermag@pepsi.eng.umd.edu <=> cmermag@smoke.brl.mil ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 22:10:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Z_BALUSEKJB@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU (JASON B., CHIEF STELLAR CARTOGRAPHER) Subject: recordings I was wondering if somebody had a list of where I could find recordings of Rush that are not released to the general public. I would appreciate any response. Write to the list or to my address: z_balusekjb@ccsvax.sfasu.edu Jason B. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 22:20:52 cdt From: "Throop,Henry B" <THROOP@AC.GRIN.EDU> Subject: Anthem (the book) & 2112, again Ervan Darnell writes: (comparisons between 2112 and Anthem deleted) One more - 2112: "It's one for all and all for one" Anthem: "We are one in all and all in one", words cut in stone over the World Council. I find it hard to belive that Neil didn't have Anthem in mind while penning the lyrics. -Henry (Anybody know what a Duffoscope (Hemispheres liner notes) is?) -- Henry Throop throop@ac.grin.edu THROOP@GRIN1.BITNET ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 11:43:38 EST From: Stimpy <DSMCCONN@ucs.indiana.edu> Subject: 2112 Hello to all, Concerning this thread about the fate of the protagonist of 2112, I remember reading (from the syrinx FTP site) some of the old tourbook inscriptions, and the one from 2112 was a discussion and extension of the events surrounding the subject matter of the song (even a funny mentioning of a prophetic rock band from the late 20th century called RUSH!). I'm pretty sure that the entry said that our hero contemplated suicide, but instead went to live a life of solitude in his secret cave behind the waterfall, which is where he found the guitar in the first place (note the sound of running water at the beginning of -Discovery-). Sorry, but I didn't take the time to re-read this file before posting this, so I could be mis-representing the writing. I think that Neil problt wrote the tourbook entry (since he usually does), but I have this vague memory that the credited author was someone else. Feel free to double-check the story and correct me if I'm wrong. Sorry, but I also don't remember the exact FTP directory it is in. :'( just my dos pesos, Dan [ The file is in the ~ftp/rush/special directory : rush-mgr ] Better the pride that resides in a citizen of the world, Than the pride that divides when a colorful rag is unfurled. (I think one of Neil's best thoughts) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Dickerman <dickermn@hpcugsya.cup.hp.com> Subject: Rush and Dream Theater Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 11:05:53 PDT Rush fans beware... > On Dream Theater, the sound is not as much like Rush and Yes as every- > one says. I would liken them to Fates' Warning if given the choice. Their > virtuosity and odd-time signatures are their only resemblaces to Rush. Here, here! (There, there!) Given the vocalist, most of the stuff is strongly reminiscent of Styx more than anything else, least of all Rush. There are a few great instrumentals which depart from this, however. This can also be considered a strong plus for die-hard Styx fans (I know a few). Sorry for the peripherally-Rush-related info, --Dan ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 19:14 GMT From: MaskullSoft <maskull@cix.compulink.co.uk> Subject: NMS 531 > hardly likely to be invited backstage simply to ask, "Why don't you tour > Britain more often, you miserable bunch of f**king Canadian tosspots! Do you > want a scrap or what?!"... This is just what I'd have asked! 6 years I waited for them. Ah well, it was worth it in the end. > "That's an impossible question to answer," Geddy splutters, "If Neil hadn't > read 'Anthem' he might've read Woody Allen's 'Without Feathers'." A concept > album based on 'Without Feathers', one of Woody's craziest works? Now that'd > be something! Geddy likes the idea too. This is my favourite WA book. I *like* it! 2112 fascist? The NME never got it more wrong, and they got wrong on on a regualkr basis before I stopped reading it. The same publishers have a new rag called Vox, which is a little better. The same cynicism is there, but with some serious music journalism hidden near the back. Magazine like the NME like to think they have power and influence. A group like Rush is beyond their control, so they feel they can knock them without concern. I've seen them do that to cult groups, and it gets tiresome. Eventually, the only part if the NME that I could enjoy was cartoon section. That says a lot... Ok, now we know about By-Tor, but what about Snow Dog? Last I heard, SD was a server, but by name only. Martin Rodgers, Chief Scientist and Programmer @ Nerdware Professionals INTERNET: maskull@cix.compulink.co.uk || 100021.3675@compuserve.com 'If God had meant Man to live in England, He'd have given him gills.' - The Burkiss Way to Dynamic Living ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Dickerman <dickermn@hpcugsya.cup.hp.com> Subject: Chat words Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 11:23:15 PDT > Neil has again included some ambiguous lyrics in his "chat". Since > the lyrics for the chat were not included in the cd jacket, they are > even more so. My copy's a ways from here, but I'm pretty sure the lyrics are in the CD jacket somewhere, although I vaguely remember the "chat" being printed seperately from the rest of the lyrics. > Which do you think it is: "You'd better run home, boy" > or "You'd better run, homeboy" ?? The second is "correct" (as appears in lyrics), and allows the above pun to be implicated by the following "... from Nome to Rome, boy". Dan -=1; ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 09:15:47 HST From: puanani@wana.pbrc.Hawaii.Edu (Puanani Akaka) Subject: Alex on ASOH (NOT censored part!!) Jello -- Just a quick and curious question. I was browsing through ASOH this past couple o' nights (after a viewing hiatus of 1 yr...) and there's that one part during 2112 when Geddy's about to sing "And the meek...". He starts to sing, and then looks over at Alex, with that "Uh...Alex?" look, and then Alex comes in. If memory serves, a few of you mentioned you were at that concert -- does anyone remember/know what Alex was doing at that part? I'm just curious, nothing deep, I'd just love to know what he was doing...I just think it's so funny! :-) In other quick Alex news -- anyone know what magazine "The Story of Kings" interview was for? I know I've read that interview because everything he says sounds so familiar, but I don't recall where it's from. sorry for the lame content -- i'm escaping homework... puanani ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:38:15 -0400 (EDT) From: JJS21@JAGUAR.UOFS.EDU Subject: RE: 10/08/92 - The National Midnight Star #532 In TNMS #532 lorne.murphy said there are not that many rare, unreleased stuff from RUSH out there... He's probably right, but I came across a boot album the other night (bought it) called "Electric". I don't know if anyone has it out there, but it has a song called "Bad Boys" from the Beatles... Although I know quite a bit about the band, I obviously don't know a vast amount, but I would be willing to contribute this song for the "Album"..... If I am wrong, and this song could not possibly qualify, then take this post as another ramble on.... (but I think this song could help)..Also, there HAS to be a few others out there...I could check where I got this album to see if there are any other old vintage stuff (BTW, also snached up a vid copy of the boys on "Don Kirshner's Rock Concert" back in the earlier 70's! VINTAGE STUFF!!!!!! Joe ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:41:12 -0400 (EDT) From: JJS21@JAGUAR.UOFS.EDU Subject: more ramblings........... I wanted to add that the "Bad Boys" cut was a song from the Beatles redone by RUSH.... not the fact that the cut was sung by the Beatles (Beatles cut on a RUSH album??? Hmmmmmm.) Ok, I'll shut up now...... Joe ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 23:21:49 -0400 From: nam2@po.CWRU.Edu (Nicholas A. Mascari) Subject: Address for Ludwig Poster!!! PLEASE!!!! Now come on....over 1400 people on this list and no one had the address to get a Neil Peart poster. Ya right!! come on, help out a fellow fan....i need to order about 5 posters but need the address...someone PLEASE!!! thank you.... -- If we burn our wings, flying too close to the sun,| Lee/Lifeson '92!!! If the moment of glory is over before it's begun, | Drink Beer, Live Longer!! If the dream is won, though everything is lost... |__________________________ We will pay the price, but we will not count the cost. - Neil Peart, Rush. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 23:28:35 -0400 From: nam2@po.CWRU.Edu (Nicholas A. Mascari) Subject: SORRY!!!! SORRY GUYS! I was an issue behind in my reading and read the post with the address in it right after I wrote that last request!! DUH!! *hits self* THANKS!!!!!! -- If we burn our wings, flying too close to the sun,| Lee/Lifeson '92!!! If the moment of glory is over before it's begun, | Drink Beer, Live Longer!! If the dream is won, though everything is lost... |__________________________ We will pay the price, but we will not count the cost. - Neil Peart, Rush. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:50:10 -0400 From: jlang (~ Rush Fanatic ~) Subject: Alex Fish Guitar >Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 21:12 EDT >From: <MLS154@PSUVM.PSU.EDU> >Subject: I heard a woman scream... or was it a car crash? > >Does anyone know where the name for the RTB bootleg "The Fly" came from? Makes me think of the current U2 Zoo TV tour. Anyone else noticed how good boot cd packaging is of late? Even Rush's Over the Europe 2 cd boot has a nice packaging to it as doe The Fly. The photos and the picture discs only lead me to believe the bootleg market is doing quite well. >Date: 08 Oct 1992 19:57:14 -0400 (EDT) >From: FISHBOY <AACUNZO@ccmail.sunysb.edu> >Subject: Non-Album tracks > >Hey Hey Hey fellow rushians, > > I've learned (thanks to the FAQ list) that Rush released a single, >"Not Fade Away"/"You Can't Fight It" before their first album came out. >Has anyone actually heard these songs? I know of quite a few people who have heard the song, if anyone's interested, maybe I could digitize it and put it on anon ftp or mail it to someone. "Not Fade Away" has been done by many groups, this old Buddy Holly cover was done very nicely by Rush. Alex power rift, I love the song itself. In an old interview (I think 1984 BMan interview? or was it Scott Munoz(sp?) World Of Rock) Geddy was played a short piece of the song, to which he admitted he was embarrased to hear it and wondered if they *really* did record that song. "You Can't Fight It" isn't anything exciting as far as I can tell (like someone said, a bit of Led Zep infuence but that's how they were back then). The first single by the way, I've seen go as high as $600 in some places, talk about rare. On the topic of cover tunes, you gotta love Rush's cover of the Beatle's "Bad Boy" on a lot of the earlier boots. I would have loved to hear them cover a Zep tune seeing as how Alex's early sounds were very Page-like. "Bad Boy" was on Beatles VI if I remember right. >Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:26:22 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Scott T. Lillis" <sl4q+@andrew.cmu.edu> >Subject: Various Rush Topics > >I was wondering if anyone knew what Rush has done with Max Webster. I >heard one song they did with him but I can't remember the name. Does >anyone here know about this. You're thinking of "Battlescars" from the Universal Juveniles album. I believe they even played this live with Max Webster when they were on tour with them. -Jimmy jlang@syrinx.umd.edu ----------------------------------------------------------
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