The National Midnight Star #511

From root Fri Sep 11 12:35 1992 Received: by wake.ncsl.nist.gov (AIX 2.1 2/4.03) id AA00712; Fri, 11 Sep 92 12:35:33 Received: by syrinx.umd.edu (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA13863; Mon, 14 Sep 92 18:30:07 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 18:30:07 -0400 Message-Id: <9209142230.AA13863@syrinx.umd.edu> Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu Subject: 09/14/92 - The National Midnight Star #511 Status: R
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Re: 09/11/92 - The National Midnight Star #510 YES List 09/11/92 - the national m sf in music: rush ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rush-mgr Date: 14 Sep 1992 Subject: Administrivia There will be two issues of the digest today because of all the posts that have come in over the weekend. Please PLEASE keep .sig files to 5 lines or less, I had to remove some parts of .sig's for this issue. It wastes space. And as for the 500th issue passing in relative silence (see next issue), it wasn't the only thing to pass that way. Neil's birthday, Sept. 12, also passed without fanfare. So happy birthday Neil! Dan Delany has sent in the Rush FAQ, so look for it to come out tomorrow and Wed as special editions. - rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:31:43 -0600 From: walter@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Brewing Chemist) Subject: First Time/Set Lists Howdy All, The first time I heard the boyz would have been in 1981. I was in seventh grade. During the school day we had a time where everyone was given 15 minutes to just read. The time happened to fall into the same slot as band rehersal. At the time the director was into playing pieces which showcased a specific instrument, so we would learn to appreciate all the instruments in band (including the basoon and oboe :-). Anyway, he said he needed a good piece featuring percussion, so the trombone player who sat next to me brought in ESL and played YYZ. It was GREAT! Not only the drum solo, but the way Ged and Alex and Neil tease you up to the solo, going back and forth trading riffs was just unreal. It blew away anything the stale AOR station I listened to had to offer. I did not remember the name of the album, so went to the record store and looked for one with YYZ on it. I bought MP, and was dissappointed. Where's the solo? I did enjoy the album though, and bought all the RUSH I could afford, being a fan ever since. It was 1986 before I made it to a concert (PoW), due to parents raising their firstborn, afraid of the drugs and violence and DEATH that must have awaited me at the concerts I wanted to attend previously. (Just a note, it was Neil's lyrics which allowed me to go the show for PoW. I showed them to Dad, and he was impressed with their content!!) Along the lines of changes to the current sets, I agree with Kenf that Hold Your Fire will probably be ousted as the opener. (Oops, I meant Force Ten, not HYF). I think it is time for a change, maybe Superconductor?? I was glad to see the inclusion of The Analog Kid in the set, as well as The Trees. Hopefully this is a new trend. With 18 years of studio material to choose from there is a lot of room to shuffle out the over- played like Tom Sawyer and Closer To The Heart (as Jimmy suggests), and bring in some "new" old stuff. Natural Science, I would be forever in awe if that came back. One of my favorites!! Also, I would love a version of In the End. Thanks for listening, Brian J Walter |Science, like nature, must also be tamed| Relax, Chemistry Graduate Student|with a view towards its preservation. |Don't Worry Colorado State University |Given the same state of integrity, it | Have A walter@lamar.colostate.edu|will surely serve us well. -N. Peart | Homebrew! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 17:06:28 MDT Subject: first times and bootlegs From: storm@acca.nmsu.edu! Hello, people of TNMS! You know, for the past two days, I was looking around wondering where the HELL my Presto tape was, since I had the tape holder, but not the tape instead, and I finally found it yay! ;) Anyway, the first time I heard Rush was while I was a freshman in college during.. hmm.. when was it, 2nd quarter or so. Like some of you, I hated it. You know,turn the channel whenever I heard them come on. Then, during the summer of that year, I was rummaging through my roomate's CDs for something good to play on the stereo, and I saw some Rush CDs. They had those lyrics inserts in them, and I began to read them.. I believe it was Moving Pictures and Hemispheres were the ones I rad, and I thought, gods, this is GREAT! The next day I heard both Tom Sawyer and Red Barchetta and I was instantly hooked, drawn in, etc. I didn't have any money at the time, so I dubbed MP and ESL onto tapes and listened to them for a longish time before I could get any other tapes. Then came AFtK, Presto, CoS, HYF, etc. Hopefully I can increase my collection to include ALL their albums. I introduced a friend of mine to Rush and she mumbled something about it being 'interesting', but not her type of music. So.. I kept bugging her about it and I suppose it grew on her, because she bought me Rush concert tickets for the Irvine concert! Ecstasy! My first time seeing them in concert and it was GREAT! My friend was also liked them a lot, and this is where the bootlegs came in. She decided to make boots of the concert, and we got pretty good sound quality, except for all those people around us who were talking. Bleah. Thanks to Jimmy Lang for giving me concert directions, so I didn't have to visit my sisters up there. ;) Anyway.. the concert was a BLAST, and I'm really glad I went. I wish I'd gone to the San Diego one, though. Yes, there were a bunch of girls wearing black halter tops, but my view of the stage wasn't impeded by them, so I was a happy camper. In fact, there was a long long tunnel of unimpeded view, so I could sit down and see the stage.. even though nearly everyone was standing up. The funniest things kept happening, though.. When Mr. Big went on stage, there were these guys in front of me yelling "YOU GUYS SUCK, GET OFF THE STAGE!" And then there was the long line of people for the guy's bathroom, AND the long line of people at the fence next to the bathroom um, how shall I say this.. 'watering the lawn'. Security finally came up and chased 'em off.. heh, this caused no end of amusement for me. Egads, what a long post. I think I'll sign off now. Bye! Keith C. Estanol | storm@ucsd.edu UCSD, Cognitive Science | storm@ucsd.bitnet Institute of Geo and Planetary Physics : kestanol@bull.ucsd.edu --------------------------------------------------------------- "We don't want to be victims, on that we all agree. So we lock up the killer instinct, and throw away the key.." ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 19:40:15 -0400 From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) Subject: oops. A call for questions! >From: changed%robotics.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Chang... Ed Chang.) >Subject: Battlescar -> Scars -> War Paint > >>> In my mind, I can't think of a real explicit reference to a female until >>> we get the song Battlescars on Presto. > >> You mean ``Scars'' on Presto. Nope, not the first female persona. > >Actually, he probably means "War Paint." (You should have caught that >one, Gregg... :-) *BANGING MY HEAD AGAINST THE WALL* . Damn. Onto another subject. Since the NMS has been up there hasn't been a single question about lyrics. Anyone with any questions about lyrics that might start a NEW THREAD?? Gregg Gregg Jaeger (jaeger@buphy.bu.edu) | Tristero? ______/|/| Treestero? Dept(s). of Physics (and Philosophy) ------------ (_) \|\| Trystero? Boston University, 590 Commonwealth Ave.,Boston MA 02215 --------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Evan A.C. Hunt" <evanh@sco.COM> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:39:56 PDT Subject: First times I guess I'll throw my story in too...I first heard *of* Rush when a friend of mine came to school wearing a T-shirt with the red star logo, which as we all know resembles a pentacle. I was maybe thirteen or fourteen, and a severe nerd (I *hated* rock music until I was thirteen) and I thought Rush must be one of those satanist-poser groups whose sole raison d'etre is to cheese off parents. I think I said something about how obnoxious I found that attitude--"What benefit is there to upsetting people? They just want to make money from teenage rebel wannabes." He said I was wrong about this band, that they were thoughtful and wrote really beautiful music, but I was skeptical. I also remember talking to my older brother, who had first convinced me through exposure to Pink Floyd that rock music could be beautiful, and whose opinions I therefore thought valuable, and he said that Rush's music "all sounds the same." (He still thinks that...I've never been able to figure it out.) That year, or the year after, p/g came out and MTV started playing Distant Early Warning every five minutes. I didn't like it much at first, but it grew on me gradually. After a while, a friend played me some other songs off that album, and also "The Trees", and I decided Rush was okay. Next time I was in a used record store, I saw a fifty-cent copy of 2112, bought it, and liked it a lot. Never bought anything else, though; I still somehow managed to believe that all their stuff sounded alike, so why buy more than one album? Fast forward a few years. It's my first year in college, the Power Windows tour is coming around, several friends are going and they ask me if I want to join them. I figure, heck, 2112 is a pretty good album, sure, why not? I go to the concert. Good concert; lots of energy; good sound; the guys seem to be having a lot of fun, and it's amazing that three people can do so much onstage without help...these songs are pretty good, really; I should have paid more attention before...halfway through the show, the band played "Mystic Rhythms". That was it. The next day I bought six albums. The week after that, four more. Sometimes you need to get kicked in the head to see what's in front of you. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: robertg@cs.umbc.edu (Robert Gottlieb) Subject: A new topic (or so I think. :) ) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 20:26:46 EDT Hi all, While making a tape for my girlfriend of misc. Rush songs, I decided to start a new thread here. If you had one 90min Maxell XL-IIS to record as much Rush as you could on, what would you put? Now for me I had all but 21 or so minutes of the tape as she requested: Spirit of the Radio Closer to the Heart Freewill Tom Sawyer New World Man She's not as much into Rush as I am, so she asked me to record whatever I wanted to on the rest. Here is the completion of the first side of the tape, i.e. the 24 min left: Before and After (Rush) Lakeside Park (ATWAS) By Tor and the Snow Dog (FBN) Anagram (for Mongo) (Presto) Anyway, let me hear all of your ideas for "The Essential Rush Tape". Kinda like if you were on a deserted island in the middle of nowhere and only had one cassette and a walkman. Later! Robert Gottlieb gottlieb@umbc4.umbc.edu "Not gonna do it.. wouldn't be prudent..." Not umbc's opinion. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:27:30 -0400 (EDT) From: John Michael Santore <jsbh+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Rush convention... serious plans OK.... since it appears to have been decided by everyone that Toronto is the best place... lets move on and plan the other stuff....since the only thing thats going around the net is bullshit talk... Now if you guys are really serious lets get down to business and try and organize shit. Someone set up a basic outline of things we've got to deal with. Suggestions are below. We can discuss and finalize the outline on the net. Promotion... are just us fans in Net land enough.... Presumably the NMS will advertise for us if we get some real organization. PLus maybe A show of Fans and other Fanzines... Transportation.... car pools from people in the South picking up people in the North on the way? If there are large groups of people from one area, rent a bus or van jointly? Every man/woman for him/herself? Lodgings... do we just take over a campsite and camp out (in Lakeside Park)? Or take over a Hotel and it's convention halls? Can we organize a group rate for the hotels? How are we intending to organize this REGARDLESS of where we stay.... and once again... should every individual just fend for themselves.... Events... I mean yeah, It'd be cool to have a huge Rush convention, but what are we going to do when we're there? Rush tribute bands? Guest speakers? (terry Brown, B-man or even Rush themselves???) Boot trading (and there are legal aspects to this)? we need to formalize a plan... When... Well Obviously we're going to need time to organize this? I'm partial to a weekend in mid march or so (it gives us time to plan... should be spring break for some college students.... not too far off for the whole plan to just fade away (NOT fade away.....) WHO... is going to organize this? Any Volunteers..... I'll help, but I don't live close enough to Toronto to scout shit out, plus I straight out don't have the time to organize everything..... I CAN help by calling places and stuff, but we need a more formal plan first. We need an administrative structure. OK..... My tentative plan.....(just as a possible template..not necessarily what should happen) The First Annual Rush Fan's Convention, Toronto, Ontario, Canada March 26-28th, 1993 Friday: Everyone gets situated in hotel... Rush tribute band performs.... Video showings in groups.... (in Red Sector A we have viewings of official video releases.... in Red Sector B we have bootleg videos of Signals and GUP... etc...) Saturday: Big ass collectables convention.... bootlegs... record meet.... (not everything has to be Rush... believe it or not I don't think this would be to hard to organize.... just tell the big album collectors about it and set up tables and shit... Take your picture with the band (get those stupid cardboard figures of the band... cheesy but it works) Guest speaker if we can get one... More videos and stuff at night.... Plus periodic pilgrimages to Danforth and Pape and Anthem Headquarters or something else cool.... Basically do what you want at night (like see a hockey game if one's in town!) Sunday: Picnic at Lakeside Park.... we'll provide directions... get there... a big ass picnic... with a loud stereo cranking Rush.... go home (hope you had a blast) Additional stuff.... Commemorative shit.... 1st Annual convention t-shirts and shit.... possible contests (Geddy look-alike?, raffle) for official RIAA platinum record award (hey these are FREE if you know the right people.... my friend got a Motley Crue one (ugh) because he knew a guy at Elektra) or other donated Rush stuff... (if you advertise the shit out of a local record store/bootleg shop They'll probably provide you with a few free things.... PLus guitar picks and shit are free if anyone can get a quantity.... Logistics... Some hotel (try and get a group rate for the convention)... pre-registration for it (pay in advance so everything can be funded)... We **NEED** some organizing head and subcommittees. Also a lawyer who'll donate his services into making sure we don't get sued.... Any left over money should go to the band.... period! =============================================================== ____________________ / \ "We break the surface tension \_________ ____ \ with our wild kinetic dreams" / / \ \ -Rush, Grand Designs \_______ / (*) ) ) / / /\___/ / Go Philadelphia Flyers! \_____ / / / / / \_______/ John Santore (jsbh@andrew.cmu.edu) \________/ Rush--Yes--King Crimson--Emerson, Lake and Palmer--Marillion =============================================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott David Daly <skipdaly@wam.umd.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 22:24:23 EDT Subject: next tour prediction-acoustic! & convention Hello. This isn't really a prediction...but, wouldn't anyone else (besides just me) like to see Rush do a little acoustic jam at a point in the show?...I don't mean they should totally jump on the bandwagon and go on MTV unplugged or anything (though I'm sure that would be interesting...), but I'd LOVE to see them stop in the middle of the concert and do something like the song Presto with just acoustic stuff! I mean it seems like SO LONG since they tried COMPLETELY stepping out of all the technology that they might get as big a kick out of doing it as the fans would! Not that I'm expecting this to really HAPPEN or anything... As far as the convention goes...as long as we plan it WAY AHEAD of time, what's to stop us from getting Gedd or Alex to pop in as a guest speaker or something?! I mean we SHOULD at least invite them (common courtesy)...don't you think? (I don't think we should tell Neil about it...he might stand up and say "get a life" or something!) Just some random thoughts... Skip ---------------------------------------------------------- From: gtas1@sunyit.edu (Terrance Stedman) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:46:48 -0400 Subject: How yet another fan got into Rush... Well, I started playing snare drum in school in 4th grade (around 1977 I guess). When I hit 8th grade, I found myself seated on the drum throne for jr. high jazz band without much of a clue as how to proceed with so many drums around me! The band leader's advice was to "listen to the greats." I know he meant Krupa, Rich, Chick Webb and Jo Jones for example, but when my friend gave me a listen to "the professor" on ATWAS, I was duly impressed. Within a short period of time, I had a crummy copy of 2112 on cassette to play through my $30 stereo system. Not long after playing my one Rush tape over and over again, I heard Tom Sawyer on the radio. Moving Pictures was just released and the radio seemed to love to play that song (in fact, they still seem to!). Anyway, the rest is history. I picked up a different Rush album each week starting with MP and eventually got them all. I still love to play my kit along with Peart now that I have the drums, a complete Rush CD library and a good stereo system. It's been over 10 years now for me and he's still my number one drumming inspiration. My favorite song to play along with has got to be The Trees. My all time favorite Rush song is Middletown Dreams off PoW. Thanks for listening... -- I ) I I <~ I_I Terry Stedman .sig copyright I \ I_I _> I I Internet: gtas1@pool.info.sunyit.edu 1992, T. Stedman -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:26:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason James Haas <jh72+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Female rush fans..and their hiding spots... To anyone with a possible clue: Everyone seems to write and say about old and new female Rush fans. I don't doubt the fact there are any, but I only know of one. So where do the rest of you hide? At the concerts, females are all over...I think many are with their boyfriends...So where are the single ones? They sure don't live in Pittsburgh; I'll show proof of that. Please help me in my distress.... Dying of having to listen to Rush alone!!! Hoser /-------------------------------------------------------------------\ | | | /---\ | | /---- | | "Subdivisions...in the high | | | | | | | | | school hall, in the shopping | | |---/ | | \---\ |---| mall..Conform or be cast out." | | | \ | | | | | | | | \ \---/ ----/ | | | | | \-------------------------------------------------------------------/ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: lobaugh@VOTH6.CHEM.UPENN.EDU Subject: Re: 09/11/92 - The National Midnight Star #510 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 23:40:18 EDT > -Jimmy > jlang@syrinx.umd.edu > PS. Ok, here's one for the person who started the trivia game. > Posted a long time ago, I don't think anyone really got it. > Although several were close. Which movie inspired "The Body > Electric" and who was the famous producer/director? (Hint it was > his first movie) I'll guess and say THX#### (can't rember exact title). George Lucas. -- Borrowed without permission from M.A. Lodahl: If it's enough good for ancient Druids, runnin' nekkid through the wuids, drinkin' strange fermented fluids, it's good enough for me!! lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:00 PST From: CIS463604@AXE.HUMBOLDT.EDU Subject: YES List This is to the person that wanted the address to request the YES mailing list (Notes From the Edge): borella@snowball.cs.ucdavis.edu Enjoy! Derek CIS463604@AXE.HUMBOLDT.EDU ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Rizzello <mike.rizzello@canrem.com> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:00:00 -0400 Subject: 09/11/92 - the national m -> As for the opener, Force Ten is dead. I'd move it towards the end of -> the set (although I wouldn't make it an encore) and open with either -> something from the next album or Dreamline. I'm partial to openers -> with weird intros, such as the "ratchet" sound in FT, the car in -> Dreamline, etc. Another good opener would be Ghost of a Chance if -> they speed it up a bit. Here's hoping they come I believe that Force Ten is, and should always be a Rush staple! It is so crisp, so powerful, it idealizes everything that is RUSH! Ghost of a Chance is definetly the best they've done, so why not save the best for last? Words cannot describe the sort of 'chill' I feel when I hear FT, it is perfect to open up with. FT dead? I found their performance of it in Toronto this tour to be totally overcoming. As for additions and removals, I would love to hear Witchunt and a full EXTENDED version of Xanadu, I also wish Scars was still on the list. I do agree that TST could be scraped, but put Mission back, either that or Mystic Rythms. Then again these are my opinions, and that's it! Mike.rizzello@canrem.com -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario, Canadas World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Rizzello <mike.rizzello@canrem.com> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:00:00 -0400 Subject: sf in music: rush Hi there, I found a Science Fiction in Music FAQ and discovered this section on Rush: Rush: In "2112", based on the book "Anthem" by Ayn Rand, the protagonist discovers an ancient guitar and winds up battling the dictatorial priesthood. The LP also contains "Twilight Zone", about the TV show of the same name. "Red Barchetta" on "Moving Pictures"is similar, except the guitar is replaced by a car. (It's based on the story "A Nice Morning's Drive".) See also "Cygnux X-1" (thought to be a black hole), "Rivendell" (Tolkien reference), "The Necromancer". See also "The Body Electric" and "Red Sector A" from "Grace Under Pressure". See also "By-Tor and the Snow Dog" from "Fly by Night". "Hemispheres" (title track thereof) is a sequel to "Cygnus X-1". "Countdown" from "Signals" is about the space shuttle. See also "Manhattan Project" from "Power Windows". The song "Xanadu" from "A Farewell to Kings" is based on the Colerige poem of the same name. See also "The Fountain of Lamneth" from "Caress of Steel" and "Anthem" from "Fly by Night" -- both songs deal with individuality. See also "Natural Science" from "Permanent Waves", which deals with future dystopias, utopias, etc. I hope this can be of some use! later..... Mike.rizzello@canrem.com -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario, Canadas World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ----------------------------------------------------------
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