The National Midnight Star #494

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Previous Digest and Police/Rush lyrics to You Bet Your Life Funny things @ the shows, etc. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott David Daly <skipdaly@wam.umd.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 15:22:57 EDT Subject: BBC radio broadcast Hey there! I heard a rumor that RUSH had one of their European shows broadcast over the radio this past spring...anybody catch it/get a copy of it??? Please email me..."maybe I have something to trade..." Scott Daly ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 20 Aug 92 19:12 GMT From: PAKMAN@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Pakman, David) Subject: Tee-shirt info Hello everyone, I participated in the tee-shirt discussions but have been off-line for a while...where can I get a NMNS tee-shirt? Thanks, David Pakman pakman@apple.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: jewright@mtu.edu (JASON WRIGHT) Subject: NMS T-Shirts Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 16:20:02 EDT Hey! Great to have the NMS back!! Thanks Meg!! Ok, allow me to brace myself for the flames and appologize in advance for my ignorance...I'M SORRY!!! Now, with that out of the way, I will procede to demonstrate my own stupidity. NMS T-Shirts are available??? Ummm...How do I get one? I HAVE MONEY FOR A SHIRT!!! Ummm...I just need to know where to send it...Thanks in advance... -PeeWee "My god...It's full of fish!!" -Geddy Lee's interpretation of 2010 What crawls on maggots when they die? Email: jewright@mtu.edu Phone: (313) 656-0946 Math undergrad from Michigan Technological University "The worst sex I ever had was still pretty good." -Unknown ---------------------------------------------------------- From: dan@bud.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany) Subject: Good RTB Tour Experiences Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 15:48:12 PDT Well, I'd have to say my favorite experience was driving to San Diego and spending an afternoon with Jimmy, Meg, the rush-mgr (Hi, Dave!), and a few others. (Btw, whatever happened to the pictures from that day?) typed by Dan Delany. (That's dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu or dan@bud.csc.calpoly.edu to you!) I failed the Turing test. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: djabson@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU (The God of Balance) Subject: prisoner Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 19:08:43 PDT I think the prisoner series has been mentioned here once before but it was a while ago. I believe the album on which Neil is seen sporting his No. 6 pin is _Power Windows_ but I'm not certain. It's really hard to see on the cd cover but there is a poster from that album where it is pretty clear. I dont know about the album sleeve, havent seen it. The line from the RTB tour book is "I am not an existentialist...I am a free man!" My friend and I got quite a chuckle out of that one. Just a side note about the revised set list from the last show I saw. I had heard here that they were playing Cygnus X-1 in the encore. This was one of the parts I was most looking forward to. I was quite disappointed when I caught the snipet they played. I barely noticed it in there. I was expecting at least a minute or two. Oh well. Such is life Dave Capture my boss, carry him away ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ronald L Chrisley <chrisley@ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 03:11:18 +0100 Subject: Radio show, and Shoreline UK readers: do any of you have a copy of the Rush radio broadcast!? How about the Genesis broadcast? I missed both. Could you email me please if you have either? Thanks. About Rush playing Analog Kid at the Shoreline show. That wasn't just the first time they had played it in the Bay Area since Signals; that was the first time they had played it in thr Bay Area ever. You see, Rush (I refuse to call them "the boyz"!) skipped the BA on their Signals tour... Ronald L. Chrisley New College chrisley@csli.stanford.edu Oxford OX1 3BN Tel: +44 865 279555 (messages) United Kingdom Yes, that's my complete address! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 20 Aug 1992 22:38:02 -0400 (EDT) From: S72UJOH@TOE.TOWSON.EDU Subject: Baltimore/Van Halen To whomever mentioned the VH/Cabo concert and Baltimore: Im taping the VH concert right now and am from Baltimore so.... E-mail me, whom ever you are! Rush rules! -=> Mark <=- Towson State University....Baltimore, Maryland p.s. To whomever mention Dream Theatre, thanks for the tip! Im buying their CDs tomorrow! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: gtas1@sunyit.edu (Terrance Stedman) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:59:12 -0400 Subject: Rush Through Time Picture Disc????!!!! Just thought the collectors of Rush stuff out there would be interested in knowing that the out of print Rush Through Time LP is available as a very rare picture disc! My copy of the LP is just ordinary black vinyl (boring...) In case anyone wants to grab this, I just got a mail-order catalog that has it. Rush Through Time (Mercury) rare picture disc of Dutch compilation LP featuring a live shot of the band. Disc M-, cover VG+ (tear in cover) All for the low price of $100! Above is from Retro Records, Utah Phone: 801-575-7021 No I don't work for Retro Records or care if they sell the record for that matter... Also, their is a new interview CD single called "Story of Kings". I believe it's a UK import. I don't have it and haven't heard it so I can't say what's on it. Anyone? -- I ) I I <~ I_I Terry Stedman I \ I_I _> I I Internet: gtas1@pool.info.sunyit.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 20:10:44 -0700 From: pslvax!larson!matt@UCSD.EDU (Matt Wilkinson) Subject: the GENESIS of RUSH Hello All: ---------- First post to the NMS! Thankx to whomever is responsible for bringing US RUSH types together. 'Round here, whenever I mention the name and/or folks see my HYF poster / picture of Geddy from _Bass Player_, they generally grimmace and walk away mumbling something sarcastic of the "get a life" flavor. :-) / RE: mcmahan post----------------------------------------------------------\ | | I'm rapidly becoming one myself -- I think Hold Your Fire is an | incredible album, and I'm getting into Perm Waves (about a bad | haircut? :))/Moving Pics/Exit--Sage Left compeltely. Signals hasn't | penetrated fully yet, but I love Subdivisions -- it sounds to me a lot | like Genesis, the most Genesis-sounding song they've done. Can anyone | point out songs that lean towards other bands like this? hmm, well *I* think "Mission" from HYF sounds very Genesis-like. Especially the ride-out at the end -- it's always reminded me of "Afterglow" from WIND AND WUTHERING. | Alex has a *lot* of The Edge as well as Andy Summers in him -- songs | on the PW/MP albums sound a lot like Summers, where some songs on | Chronicles use effects like The Edge has used. But, Alex gives it a | unique, harder edge than even The Edge. Has Alex done any acoustic \ END mcmahan --------------------------------------------------------------/ IMHO, I think this is bass-ackwards. I'm more inclined to agree with the following: / BEGIN fmoore ------------------------------------------------------------\ | Hey all, it's been a while since I wrote to NMS but I read something | today that really irked me. Scott, the genesis guy, said that Alex has a lot | of Andy Summers and the Edge in his guitar playing. THIS IS NOT A FLAME, but | I just wanted to point out that Alex has been playing guitar, and has been | recorded a lot longer than the other guys. I would say that he has influenced | them as the other way around. Probably much more than most people realize. \ END fmoore --------------------------------------------------------------/ It's interesting. I'm not a big music fan, but I am a BIG RUSH FAN -- kinda like it's just about all I listen to. So I don't keep up much with interviews of other bands. Has anyone ever heard someone (like Summers, The Edge, or someone else of that caliber) ever say "yah, Alex Lifeson was a big influence on me" --or-- "I started out trying to play the bass line from Tom Sawyer, so I'd say Geddy Lee was the genesis { no pun intended :-) } of my musical style" ??? or some such thing? It would be really interesting to know who credits the band with being a major (or even a minor) influence. I saw the RTB tour in Jan '92 in San Diego, and again in Jun '92 at Irvine Meadows. Aside from the fact that Irvine (as well as Primus!) sucks, the boyz were in rare form that night -- the show kicked a*s! "The Trees" and "Vital Signs" were cool additions to the set, but I have to join the chorus of folks who've already posted saying that "Analog Kid" blew me away. Hadn't heard it live since SIGNALS; almost forgot about it (horrors!). The opening riff LITERALLY knocked me over (I turned to my friend and said "hey, Analog Kid, holy shit, do you believe this... " and fell backwards on top of some unsuspecting Metallicahead who kept saying throughout the show "no way maannn, Metallica was way better". Just shows there's no accounting for taste. The guy next to him kept shouting "...bring on the bunnies...bring on the bunnies..." then went WILD during "Superconductor". It's by far the best RUSH live I've seen -- seemed like the Presto tour (saw it in L.A., on my birthday no less) was bland, uninteresting... as if they were just going through the motions. But in Irvine, GAWD WERE THEY INTO IT, AND ON TOP OF IT, AND BENEATH, BETWEEN BEHIND... So that's it. Again, thankx to those who keep the NMS alive. -- "Dionysius thought me mad." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Matt Wilkinson, Systems Administrator | = ===== ===== ===== //// = = ------------------------------------- | = = = = = = ===== ////// == = phn 818-845-4100 / fax 818-845-2414 | ===== = = = = ===== ////// = == uucp ...ucsd!pslvax!larson!matt | Technology, Inc. //// orq "Anything can happen." | 4109 W Burbank Blvd, Burbank, CA 91505 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: A correction... Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 13:00:12 CDT From: dts@quad.sialis.com (David Sandberg) Firstly, I am thrilled to see the return of TMNS after it's hiatus! Secondly, Frank Moore writes: > ............................ Scott, the genesis guy, said that Alex has a lot > of Andy Summers and the Edge in his guitar playing. THIS IS NOT A FLAME, but > I just wanted to point out that Alex has been playing guiar, and has been > recorded a lot longer than the other guys. Andy Summers has been playing guitar on people's albums since the sixties (when the estimable Mr. Lifeson was still in high school). Anyway, just because you get a recording contract doesn't mean you stop being influenced by the other music out there, right? In fact, I think Alex himself has acknowledged Summers as an influence. What's important is that both Lifeson and Summers are tremendous guitarists. The more the merrier! -- \ david sandberg dts@quad.sialis.com / / Coming soon to a theater near you... "Yuckadecimal Strikes Back!" \ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:14:04 -0400 From: jlang (~ Rush Fanatic ~) Subject: Previous Digest and Police/Rush Ben Radford says: > > Regarding Neil's "get a life" comment, I can see what he's getting >at, but I also think that it is a little hypocritical of him to say that; >after all, he delights in hiding messages in the album covers and >photographs (i.e. RTB tourbook -- Remember Death), and we fans are to look >for and examine such minutiae. It is part of the fun. Either Neil wants >us to play around with miniscule trivia about the band or he doesn't. >While I think that a lot of Rush trivia is useless, it is still >interesting and fun. I agree with this sometimes, but I also think a lot of people get carried away with their interpretations. There's a fine line between Neil's word and the influence of individualism and someones' interpretation of Neil's word and how it influences the electrical flow produced by speaker wires passing through asbestos. (I know - horrible example but you know what I mean.) Sometimes people just read too much into it. It's great to get some insight but it gets ridiculous if you carry it too far. (The NMS debates over the dogs barking in Dreamline come to mind.) Keith Estanol says: >Also, so far, I haven't seen any CDs of Marillion in any of the >music stores I've been in, in San Diego. Do I have to get them >special mail-order? Or? Check out CD sounds on Miramar Road (next to Roberto's), they carry Marrillion CD's (with and without former member Fish) and the newer imports. Has anyone heard Fish's new solo album? Not bad eh? it's hard to find in the US, but most good import stores can get it for you. Much superior than Marrilion's latest IMO. Bill Dunn Jr. says: > Now that we have NMS back I can get an answer to this question. >Who wrote the Text passages in the lyrics to 2112 that are in the archives. > >Are these passages Peart originals? or are they creatively added by someone >else? I am very interested to know please respond. As far as I know, I think Neil wrote those words, if you mean the story about Father Brown and the priests, and the quotations on the original album sleeve. Anyone know for sure? They sure aren't from any Rand books that's for sure. (At least not in Anthem, as I've read that.) ---------------------- On the issue of Alex and Andy Summers, I would say that during PW/MP, it sounds more to me like Alex was influenced by Summers rather than vice versa. Summers and the Police were doing rock with reggae/ska overtones long before Rush went into the studio to do stuff like Vital Signs. Check out Police's early albums: Outlandos D'Amour Regatta de Blanc Zenyatta Mondatta Sorry if I misspelled anything, don't have the CD's with me. You could tell just by listening to those that the Police was definitely *not* as influenced by Rush as vice versa. I remember in an interview in Modern Drummer around Permanent Waves, Neil mentioned that he really liked the "young drummer Steward Copeland". Point is, Police came out with their music first, and only later did we hear Police-like music on Rush's PW/MP albums. During the end of Spirit, you could hear Neil drumming with a bit of reggae/ska patterns. On Vital Signs, you could hear a bit of Summers, and even on Signals (1982, several years after the first Police album came out), on Digital Man you could hear the similarities. Speaking to a fellow drummer he too agreed that Neil's drumming and some of Copeland's style and playing back in PW/MP were along the same lines. I still conceed that Summers/Copeland had more of an influence on Alex/Neil during that period. Anyone else agree/disagree? shed some light? Maybe the next best thing is to ask and get an answer from the horse's mouth himself!! I'll have to remember that next tour :) -Jimmy jlang@syrinx.umd.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: gehring@cs.uwp.edu (David Gehring) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:28:39 -0500 Subject: lyrics to You Bet Your Life I am curious to find out what the lyrics to You Bet Your Life are about. Neil writes at one point "the odds get even". Someone brought this up with me in conversation and I was looking for feedback from the Rush fans on the net. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. Dave ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 12:16:14 EDT From: Chris Mermagen (WSTB|stratton) <cmermag@BRL.MIL> Subject: Funny things @ the shows, etc. Hey all, This is the ole first post to your fabled newsletter, and what a bonus it is. The funny thing is, I've been @ UMCP for 3 years and still knew nothing about it! Oh well, that's the way that lady luck dances. Anyway, I happened to get 3rd row @ the Merriweather show and 7th row @ the Cap center. I remember alot more from the Merriweather show. Our seats were directly in front of where Alex usually hung out to jam, and they were excellent indeed. I would have to say Alex is the biggest character out there (except of course for Neil's windmill- what a bonus laugh). Some of the things that were quite hilarious. He had a nerf bow and arrow fight with some techies up in the lighting. During one of the songs, he held a minute long conversation with a guy right in front of me. This other dude down the way was wearing a fishing hat similar to Col. Henry Blake from M*A*S*H, and Alex went through the motions of casting his rod, etc. Plenty more fun things, but I don't quite recall. Anybody know if Alex recently changed his cabinets during the tour. I don't seem to recall those GK's on the first part of the tour, but his sound @ Merriweather was simply incredible. That was an incredible sounding show IMHO, even where I was sitting, which is usually a sacrafice in sound. Oh well, enjoy all, and keep the killer postings coming- Chris cmermag@smoke.brl.mil cmermag@wam.umd.edu ----------------------------------------------------------
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