The National Midnight Star #490

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Set list changes New set list at end of tour Analog Kid, Vital Signs Dream Theater GIF files RTB error/ASoH cover pic/Jacobs Ladder NEIL - ADDRESS Rush Ramblings (none) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 19:32:54 EDT From: Tim Alberta <alberta@sarsun.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: tour, etc Hello all, It was a nice surprise getting TNMS back on line. Thanks Meg! I saw them at Pine Knob in Clarkston, MI, (for the second time this tour) in June. Jimmy Lang was there, but we weren't able to hook up in time, so I wasn't able to meet him. Someone told me that it was the third to the last show in their tour. It was outdoors, and it was, of course, great! It was great to hear Analog Kid, and Doug, the other song they played was The Trees! Which is actually the subject of my last post, eons ago. There was a debate going on regarding the lyrics. I maintained that Neil had said the lyrics were "pure doggerell" (his words, from a Modern Drummer interview) and promised to try and get the issue from my brother, who subscribed to the magazine quite a while ago. Well, I tried, and he couldn't find the issue with the interview. So, I guess I can't back up my controversial assertion. Sorry... Tim alberta (alberta@sarsun.larc.nasa.gov) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 15 Aug 92 05:18:43 EDT From: Bruce Holtgren <70724.1622@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Rush clubs and mags (vs. TNMS) >From: Scott David Daly <skipdaly@wam.umd.edu> >Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 16:39:38 EDT >Subject: A Show Of Fans/The Spirit Of Rush/backstage club > > Can someone send me email commenting on the following >clubs/publications: > > "The Spirit Of RUSH" > The backstage club > "A Show Of Fans" My experience with these is limited, but I have definite opinions, in reverse order, to wit: 3. "A Show of Fans": I know nothing about this one. (See? I told you my experience is limited.) 2. The Rush Backstage Club: An amusing little organization run by a woman named Dottie in Las Vegas (yes, really). It's the only fan club officially recognized by the band, and serves mainly as an outlet for old (or not-so-old) merchandise: T-shirts, posters, patches, buttons and the like. You have to buy something from them at least once a year to stay on the mailing list. There's one overriding reason the B.S. Club is worth the membership: Neil periodically (once a year or so) puts out compilations of answers to questions sent in by fans. Besides being unavailable anywhere else, these things are usually very informative, always interesting, and often hysterically funny. Some examples of the latter (from November 1987): Q. How do you feel about Ayn Rand and Objectivism? A. Pretty good. How do you feel about them? Q. Is "Vital Signs" about individuality or pressures to conform or what? A. Yes. 1. "The Spirit of Rush": Ahem. I ordered this fanzine once three years ago, and will not do so again - at least, not unless I get definitive proof that it has improved immensely, which I somehow doubt. The issue I received was amateurish and juvenile to the point of being embarrassing - bad art work, bad writing and bad editing, all on approximately a high-school level. The only possibly redeeming parts of the thing were the reprints - but they were all of things I had long before read (Neil's essay from A Show of Hands, for example) or heard (a Rockline broadcast). I also tried ordering some items that were supposedly for sale, but my check never cleared and I never heard back from the guy (the alleged editor, no less). I understand the publication of "The Spirit of Rush" has now moved to the U.S. side of the big pond, but I am not about to spend $4 (or whatever the price is now) to see if it's any better. The main reason ... 0. The best damn source on the planet of up-to-date info on Rush is the one you're reading right now. God, how great it is to have the good ol' NMS back! I'd like to join the stampede in welcoming the rush-mgr back - thanks once again, Dave, for bearing a gift beyond price (but we know it ain't even close to free). My life is whole again. Bruce 70724.1622@compuserve.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 15 Aug 92 05:22:17 EDT From: Bruce Holtgren <70724.1622@CompuServe.COM> Subject: set lists compared >From: doug <70003.5604@CompuServe.COM> >Subject: Changes in Set (back in June) >They changed the set a bit towards the end of the show. Subdivisions >was NOT played (and possibly another song they played the first time >around) and they substituted "Analog Kid and Vital Signs". Again my >memory has worn....I believe there was a third surprise (can anyone >help me out?). Allow me to be probably the fifth person to respond to this question. Yes, they expanded the set - and wasn't it GREAT?? I happened to write down the set lists for the shows I saw, so I'll pass for purposes of comparison a list from near the beginning of the tour (Cincinnati, October 29) and one from near the end (Dayton, June 23). (Now that the tour is over, *surely* no one will regard this as a "spoiler.") A few notes follow the lists. CINCINNATI (Oct. 29): DAYTON (June 23): Force Ten Force Ten Limelight Limelight Free Will Free Will Distant Early Warning Distant Early Warning Time Stand Still Time Stand Still Dreamline Dreamline Bravado Bravado Roll the Bones Roll the Bones Show Don't Tell Show Don't Tell The Big Money The Big Money Subdivisions Ghost of a Chance (See Note 1) The Pass Vital Signs (See Note 2) Where's My Thing? The Analog Kid (See Note 2) The Rhythm Method The Trees (See Note 2) Closer to the Heart Where's My Thing? Xanadu The Rhythm Method Superconductor Closer to the Heart Tom Sawyer Xanadu Superconductor Tom Sawyer ENCORE: (See Note 3) ENCORE: (See Note 3) The Spirit of Radio The Spirit of Radio (Medley:) (Medley:) 2112 (Overture) 2112 (Overture) Finding My Way Finding My Way La Villa Strangiato Cygnus X-1 Anthem La Villa Strangiato The Red Barchetta Hemispheres Finding My Way Anthem The Red Barchetta The Spirit of Radio (Note 1): Ghost of a Chance was added sometime in December, I believe - Baltimore? Philadelphia? (Help me out, rush-mgr; you were there.) (Note 2): I, for one, was stunned and thrilled to hear The Analog Kid and Vital Signs - two songs that I have long considered highly underrated and that I never, NEVER figured I'd have a chance to hear live. It made my year. And, of course, The Trees is a classic (but let's not get into what it means again, please). All three of these were in the set in St. Loo on June 12, but I don't know when they were added. (Anyone?) (Note 3): I won't vouch for 100 percent accuracy on the exact content of the encores. They sometimes play just a few chords from something, and it goes by so fast that it's hard to identify it amid the excitement before they're on to the next snatch. Someone else may well have better/more complete encore listings. A final note: All in all, I thought the boyz did an admirable job of song selection, considering the immense trove they have to choose from. (Of course, like everyone else, I wish they'd play for eight hours instead of just two.) Toward the last show I saw, I'd even grown to appreciate the medley, which had initially grated on me - better to hear a little bit of all those old pieces than have to settle for just a couple of complete ones, I suppose ... Sorry for taking up so much bandwidth. The shows on this tour were easily the most ass-kicking concerts I've ever seen. Here's to the next time! Bruce 70724.1622@compuserve.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 07:55:00 -0400 From: lorne.murphy@rose.com Subject: WHERE TO GET RUSH STUFF!! Date Entered: 08-15-92 06:33 A Mail-order place in Quebec that has LOADS of Cool Old and New Rush bootleg audio and video tapes: Eric Paradis CP 373 St. Lambert, Quebec, CANADA J4P 3N8 Don't let the fact that it's Canadian worry any of you Americans. All currency and prices are US Dollars (booo hisss).. Lots of Early Rush, Genesis, Yes, Marillion, Gabriel, Floyd, Zep, etc. Well worth checking out... just ask for their free catalogue!!!!! Boots from the CARESS OF STEEL tour, early '75 Rush promo vids, etc. Enjoy! Lorne %When they turn the pages of history when these days have passed long ago....% --- RoseMail 2.00 : Usenet: Rose Media - Hamilton (416) 575-5363 ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:24:19 -0400 (EDT) From: David Joseph Zieger <dz0x+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Set list changes TO the one who mentioned the changes in the set list (Analog Kid, etc.): I saw them twice here in Pittsburgh, and the second time was different (and much better!). They dropped Subdivisions and The Pass (very suprising) and added Ghost of a Chance, Vital Signs, Analog Kid, and The Trees. It took me a few seconds to recognize Vital Signs, though it was much appreciated. Dave Zieger {dz0x+@andrew.cmu.edu} 'Time is an Illusion, Lunchtime Doubly So' - Douglas Adams ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 18:55 EST From: The Land Of Confussion <MGLICKSMAN@LOYOLA.EDU> Subject: New set list at end of tour > They changed the set a bit towards the end of the show. Subdivisions > was NOT played (and possibly another song they played the first time > around) and they substituted "Analog Kid and Vital Signs". Again my > memory has worn....I believe there was a third surprise (can anyone > help me out?). Here at Merriweather, they played The Trees, that surprised me alot and so did Vital Signs. The whole show was really good, although I really missed not hearing Subdivisions. 5*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*@*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#@#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*@ # From the AMIGA of # Help me someone, let me out of here # # MGlicksman@Loyola.edu # then out of the dark was suddenly heard # # # "welcome to the Home by the Sea" -genesis- # @*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*@*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#@#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*@ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 21:23:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Shawn Clayton Knight <knightster+@cmu.edu> Subject: Analog Kid, Vital Signs Yep, they played these two killer pieces in Pittsburgh at the June 21st Star Lake show ... I was amazed by the opening riff of Analog Kid myself, as it's one of my favorite "lesser-known" Rush works ... -shawn "Everybody's got to deviate from the norm" -Rush, "Vital Signs" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 12:13:31 BST From: CP_PWM%CMS.BRISTOL.AC.UK@ib.rl.ac.uk Subject: Dream Theater Hi, First of all, welcome back. It's been a long boring summer without NMS! Anyway, what I want to say is this. Have any of you ever wondered what Rush would sound like now, if, after making Moving Pictures and deciding to 'change direction', instead of going for the quieter, more melodic approach of, say, Signals or GUP, they'd opted for a heavier, more metallic flavour? The answer is a group called Dream Theater, who come from New York State. They have just released their second album, Images & Words, which is possibly the best album released all year (IMO), and that includes RTB! I always believed that Rush was unique in Rock music. Not only did they have the best individual musicians of almost any group, but they also had the best lyricist, and a sense of style and integrity that no other groups came even close to. It seems they're no longer unique, Dream Theater have arrived on the scene. The reason I'm telling you all this is that this group deserves to be heard. Because they play Rush-style music, they're not going to get publicity in the music press, or get anything played on MTV. The only way this group are going to make it big, is by word of mouth among satisfied customers. That's how Rush started out, after all. I know dozens of Rush fans in the UK, and I've played most of them both Dream Theater's albums. Almost without exception their response has been (a) Wow! and (b) Where can I get these albums? To give you an idea of what makes Dream Theater so special, a friend of mine described them as Rush-on-speed. They play songs that are every bit as complex and intricate as the best Rush tracks, but at 3 times the speed. The first few times I heard the album I had to take a rest half way through, since the baud rate was too fast, ie too much information per second, my brain couldn't cope! It's not like typical thrash or speed metal at all, since those types of groups tend to play only a limited number of chords or riffs very fast. DT play incredibly complex melodies and interweave the various different instruments, all at breakneck speed. Imagine La Villa Strangiato played at 2 times normal speed, but with no loss of clarity or composition, and you'll have some idea of the impression I'm trying to give. DT also do quieter, more melodic tracks as well, any of which is as good as any Rush track (this is from a lifelong Rush fan, remember!). As for musicianship, each member of DT is a virtuoso on his instrument. The drummer has a very similar style to an early Peart, and is the only drummer I've ever heard who can equal him (yes, I did say *equal*!). The timings are all weird, Rush-like signatures (13/4, 7/3 etc), and they only maintain a given rhythm for a few bars before changing it again. The guitar and bass and keyboards are also incredible. One of the best things about DT though, is their lyrics. Like Rush, DT write inteligent, thoughtful lyrics, about difficult subjects. No sex, drugs and R&R here! There are tracks about having to take personal responsibility for one's actions, the alienation felt by certain members of society who are deemed 'different', the way people act to look good in front of others rather than for their own reasons, etc. Does this sound familiar? It should, since these are very Rush-like subjects. In short, if you are a Rush fan, you'll flip when you hear DT. Most people say they sound like early Rush, but I prefer to think of them as a cross between Rush, Queensryche, Marillion and Metallica. Their two albums to date are: 'When Dream & Day Unite', and 'Images and Words'. Buy them, be amazed, then tell you friends. These guys deserve to be huge. 'swimming against the stream' Paul May, University of Bristol, UK ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 16 Aug 1992 12:12:36 -0400 (EDT) From: pviswana@thor.ece.uc.EDU (Prashanth Viswanath) Subject: GIF files Could someone send me the list of all the RUSH gif files and where they are located. I will summarize and post if I receive more than a couple of responses. [ You can find all the Rush gif files on the anonymous ftp server set up at syrinx.umd.edu. Look at the CONTENTS file for more information on each of the gifs. :rush-mgr ] Thanks dude. -- Prashanth Viswanath Energy is contagious pviswana@uceng.uc.edu Enthusiasm spreads pviswang@thor.ece.uc.edu Tides respond to lunar gravitation Phone: (H):(513) 651-1660 Everything turns in synchronous relation (D):(513) 556-2499 --Rush [Chain Lightning, Presto] (W):(513) 556-4193/4770 ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 11:34:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Askilsrud <redlense@u.washington.edu> Subject: RTB error/ASoH cover pic/Jacobs Ladder Has anyone else noticed an error on the Roll the Bones disc? If not, try to find it. (clue: its on track #((2^(3+2))-8)/6), about 3/4 way thru the song :) An error? That's okay, I heard they did it in one take :) Does anyone know where a GIF (preferably very high res) of the ASoH cover can be found?? This pic would be great to enlarge & print out on color postscript to make a poster. Also, does anyone know anything about Exit..'s Jacobs Ladder introduction when Ged says something like 'this was written a long time ago by d.c bruenzee' or something like that?? -Redlense ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:43:00 -0400 From: lorne.murphy@rose.com Subject: NEIL - ADDRESS Date Entered: 08-17-92 03:33 Hi... Any idea what address I write to to get a personal reply from Neil? I have a question that I would REALLY like to hear him answer... and it's nothing fanatical either... I just figure he's the best person to ask. Lorne %Chase the light around the world, I want to look at life....% --- RoseMail 2.00 : Usenet: Rose Media - Hamilton (416) 575-5363 ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 06:34:44 -0400 From: jlang (~ Rush Fanatic ~) Subject: Rush Ramblings 1) Greg Thorwald in Digest 487 asks if anyone on the NMS got through on Rockline with Geddy last May 18th. Well, believe it or not, I was sitting there listening to the Rockline when a familiar voice comes on it turns out Ken from New York (a fellow NMS'er) got through. I guess anything can happen. (Thanks Ken for *not* plugging the NMS :) Has any other NMS member gotten through Rockline in the past? 2) For those of you who mailed in your $20 for a subscription to Spirit of RUSH - UK and mailed it in to the old address (Ray W. in Buffalo), please DO NOT mail to that address. The subscription address has since changed. To get Spirit of UK here in the US, send ALL your requests to: A Show of Fans c/o Steve Streeter PO Box 292 Canton, CT. 06019 (Dan could you make a note of this in the FAQL so people don't mail to the old address. Sorry Scott Raby, but sounds to me like your post in Digest 487 that you got caught up in the change of address.) For others of you who may be wondering, Steve Streeter also runs a Rush publication called "A Show of Fans" and it is the Spirit of Rush-UK counterpart here in the US, although they are 2 separate fanzines. You can get info about ASOF from the above address. 3) And the prize for the most posts by one NMS person in any digest goes to Skip Daly *<:-) in issue 488. a) In answer to your questions, YES, B-Man is working on a book but it is not done yet. Last heard, supposedly coming out this December. First draft done. On a related topic, I'm told by good friend Ken that Andrew McNaughtan is also writing a book scheduled for next year. b) You can write the band by sending to the addresses listed in the FAQL c) On my impressions of the Rush Backstage club, it is nice to join, they have a lot of older tour books, lots of posters, older tour shirts (mostly in S, Med), bumper stickers, patches, pins, etc.. Also they put out a newsletter now and again with info about the band, tour dates, Questions and Answers, etc. The address is in the FAQL, and the lady who runs it is very nice and helpful. d) The Spirit of RUSH-UK is an excellent fanzine, mostly has transcriptions to old interviews, radio shows, etc. good quality photos, lots of inputs for UK fans. Definitely worthwhile. 4) Well, if you haven't heard by now, Nick in Digest #489 revealed that on the last date of the tour (Chicago) during Finding My Way, Neil gets up to do his windmill and throws off the bandanna, showing off his new hairstyle. Yup! A mohawk!! Surprise shocker of the evening. Unlike last tour we weren't treated to anything special like a Mr.Big/Rush get together on stage, but Alex was spotted backstage during Mr. Big's opening act. The road crew had their fun with dangling spiders from the ceiling, all in good taste. 5) Great story Mark! on meeting Geddy in Scottland. Anyone got any other brushes with greatness? Finally, wanted to thank everyone I met during the tour, it certainly is nice to see that some of us are actually real people and not just an associated email address. :) -Jimmy jlang@syrinx.umd.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 09:44:56 -0400 From: glenn@corndog.welch.jhu.edu (Glenn M. Mason) > As to the Freewill lyric question, I think it is: > > "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." > ^^^^^^ > The line clearly states that the person ("you") has made the choice to > let whatever happen happen, without any of the person's influences. > Or in other words the person chose inaction, not that the person > hasn't made a choice (the second option for what the line actually is). > > Anyway, just my two cents....... > > Rio > dege@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu I think the line means: "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." It means what it simply states ... nothing more, nothing less ... not all that babble that you write. I consider myself a very big RUSH fan ... have all of the CDs, never miss an area performance, like the music and the lyrics, but ... I think that many TNMS subscribers must spend countless hours examining and thinking about Neil's lyrics ... trying to read all kinds of things into the lyrics that aren't there. I think a lot of RUSH lyrics are very meanigful as well, but c'mon ... in Neil's own words ... GET A LIFE!! Glenn ----------------------------------------------------------
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