The National Midnight Star #478

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 04/30/92 - The National Midnight Star #478
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** List posting/followup: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Administrative matters: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu or rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu (Administrative postings to the posting address will be ignored!) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The National Midnight Star, Number 478 Thursday, 30 April 1992 Today's Topics: Administrivia Re: 04/27/92 - The National Midnight Star #474 THE BRUINS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! T-Shirts (Questions answered) GOAC Video? Unsubscribe me please... The Compleat Singles Chart History Thanks The Video "Rushour" Lakeside Park Bio time! ... The Trees, and D&N Flame me! Rush at Great Woods Re: 04/24/92 - The National Midnight Star #473 Gawain, Cygnus, and Zivojinich Merriweather - Neil & Environment Tickets for Rush at GreatWoods Rush for Academic-Types Rushian Roulette Balt. - Merriweather ticket sales hidden faces Re: 04/27/92 - The National Midnight Star #474 _Rush-Profiled!_ CD Heresy Long Live the NMS! Rush at Great Woods, MA Great Woods date... 2112 and TRM Jones Beach & Meadowlands Directions to StarLake Amp. Wanted Merriweather Get-together? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Editor, The National Midnight Star <rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu> Subject: Administrivia First off, SEE TODAY'S NMS FOR DETAILS ON T-SHIRTS!!!!!! Secondly, I've caught up with the admin mail; once again, if you're expecting a response and haven't gotten one, it may have gotten lost. Mail me again, please. Thirdly, there is no third item. Lastly, PLEASE remember that administrative (remove me) postings to this list will be *ignored*. If you want to be taken off the list, send mail to the administrative address. It's at the beginning and end of every digest, and also in the header of the Administrivia posts. rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- From: jewright@mtu.edu (JASON WRIGHT) Subject: Re: 04/27/92 - The National Midnight Star #474 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 92 17:21:58 EDT Greetings fellow Rush types.... A few things this time around: First- To the person who asked about the lyrics to Diadects and Narpets. They are available in the current FAQ list which is available for anonymous FTP from syrinx.umd.edu. It's /rush/specail/FAQL01/24/92. The path is right, but the exact file name is wrong. But the first 4 letters are FAQL, so you should be able to find it...:) [ Actually, the current version is "rush/special/FAQL.041992". :rush-mgr ] Second- I give up. I'd like to know where I can get decent reviews of the available bootlegs. I've given up trying to find this stuff on my own. [ Don't feel bad, I can't find boot albums/CDs unless I go to record con- ventions... :rush-mgr ] Third- To the person who inquired about the "I scream" at the 43 second mark of the ASoH version of Red Sector A. I heard what you are talking about, but I think it's nothing. If it is a lyric, I cannot make it out. Maybe more to come later.... -PeeWee "My god...It's full of fish!!" -Geddy Lee's interpretation of 2010 Email: jewright@mtu.edu Phone: (906) 487-0646 Math undergrad from Michigan Technological University "The worst sex I ever had was still pretty good." -Unknown ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Apr 92 18:11 EST From: AARON SILVERMAN <ASILVERM@vax1.trincoll.edu> Subject: THE BRUINS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hi Ho! Someone was wondering about Rush and Hockey. . .Well, at the New Haven show, I gave the sound board area the once-over before the show. Arrayed around the edges of the boards were hockey pucks, one with the logo of each NHL team(and a few minor leaguers, I think, but I don't remember for sure). Also, Neil wore a "Puckhead" cap, which is basically a large black dog food dish worn upside down on the head which says "Puckhead"(coincidence?) on it. I have seen people wearing these at NHL games. It's supposed to be a hockey puck (no, really?!). HATCHET AXE AND SAW ARE THINGS MEN USE TO CUT DOWN TREES WITH. Man comes in and negates the natural order of things. How PC! Where are those durn T-Shirts? I WANT ONE!! On a related note, a guy who was handing out flyers for A Show Of Fans at the last show I saw was wearing a 2112 T-Shirt, possibly the coolest shirt I have ever seen(Except the Yesshows Around The World In 80 Dates bootleg. . .), which he said he bought at K-Mart in 1976 for a few dollars. Hey Mercury! I finally heard from Mr. Objectivism. . .He's so fried out on Acid that his message was even more unintelligible than they used to be! Your X-Undergrad pal, Aaron Silverman ASILVERM@TRINCC P.S. I hate .sig files! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1992 17:25 MDT From: HOLMES <MARK@yvax.byu.edu> Subject: T-Shirts (Questions answered) First off, I posted to the NMS about how to order the shirts last week, and have seen several common questions. I'll try to answer them here. 1. What happened to the tabloid idea? I got in contact with Cheryl Crenshaw about doing the shirts. She did not forsee being able to do the shirts any time in the near future, but really wanted the opportunity to design the tabloid shirt. I'm not doing the tabloid shirt because I didn't want to spoil it for Cheryl. She said that she planned on doing them sometime but had no idea as to when. Since people were getting antsy about the shirts we both decided (with consent of rush-mgr) to have me go ahead and do a different shirt, with the idea in mind that the shirts could be an annual type deal - or whenever people feel like having a new one :) So no, the tabloid shirt idea has not been scrapped, but I wouldn't plan on seeing it done until *at least* next fall or so - but that's entirely up to Cheryl. 2. The names of cities on the back - could they be "Rush cities"? If you would like the name of a different city on the back other than your hometown, then send the name of that city with your order instead of your hometown - in fact put whatever you want for your city: the back is an opportunity for *you* to personalize *your* shirt. I only ask that it not be vulgar. If enough people send rush related cities then I will try to put all those together on your shirt. 3. How to order? Send to: Mark Adams 477 West 1800 North Provo, Utah 84604 Include: 1. Shirt size (up to XX large) 2. Name of city you want to appear on the back under 'World Tour 1992'. 3. Your return mailing address. 4. A check for $9.50 made out to Mark Adams (this includes $ for shipping back to you :) With over 1400 people on the list not everyone is going to be happy with or agree on the same design (even though we all love the same GREAT band:) I'm trying really hard to be as flexible as I can so that what I'm doing will make as many NMS readers as I can happy. One last comment: I can confirm the Salt Lake City date for May 29. It's in the Delta Center (go Jazz!) - I got my tickets last Saturday when they went on sale. A local radio station is giving away RTB cd's if you are the 10th caller whenever they play Rush - and then that caller gets to go down to the station's studio and 'roll the bones' - that is they give them a die to roll and whatever number they roll is how many of their friends they get to take with them to the concert. Pretty cool. -Mark ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Apr 92 19:20:31 EDT From: "David S. Schmidt" <dschmidt@sales.stern.nyu.edu> Subject: GOAC Video? I seem to remember some talk of work on a video for "Ghost of a Chance." Has anyone heard any new news? ************************************************************************* **"I don't know how we got this image, maybe we wore too many robes in ** **the 70's. But they have this super-serious image of us..." ** ** -Geddy Lee ** ************************************************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick McGlinchey <rmcglinc@mango.ucs.indiana.edu> Subject: Unsubscribe me please... Date: Tue, 28 Apr 92 19:11:03 EST Folks Please unsubscribe me from _Midnight Star_. Thanks, Rick ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Apr 92 19:29:03 EST From: YES <RMATHIAS@ucs.indiana.edu> Subject: The Compleat Singles Chart History Let it be stated for the record - er, the cd - that Rush had 8 tunes make the top 100 Billboard Pop Chart. TITLE PEAK POS. DEBUT DATE 1. Fly By Night/In The Mood 88 1/8/77 2. Closer Too The Heart 76 11/26/77 3. The Spirit Of Radio 51 (not quite 40, eh?) 2/23/80 4. Limelight 55 3/14/81 5. Tom Sawyer 44 6/6/81 6. Closer To The Heart (ESL cut) 69 12/12/81 7. New World Man 21 9/18/82 8. The Big Money 45 11/9/85 Okay, I lied. It's not complete. My book only goes thru 12/31/86. If anyone has *accurate* info from 1986-now, please post it or send it to me. I would REALLY like this data!!! Glenn <RMATHIAS@ucs.indiana.edu> ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Apr 92 21:26:23 EDT From: Tim Alberta <alberta@sarsun.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: Thanks I would like to thank whomever posted the June 26th date in Detroit. I called my brother in Michigan (I live in Newport News, VA) and told him about it. He was able to find out when the tickets go on sale, so it looks like I'm making an 800 mile trek up North to see the Boyz (for the second time this tour) in June. If it weren't for you there would be no chance (people who live in Michigan understand why - you usually have about two hours to get your tickets) Actually, they will be at Pine Knob, which is an outdoor theater with somewhat limited seating, so it's a double bonus. Once again Thanks. I remember a Neil Peart interview in which he stated that the song "The Trees" had no social significance at all - it was just a song that they wrote one day about trees. As for the song "Mission", I think it is a song about people who create, and that sometimes we wish we could do things like that, but as another post said, "Be careful what you wish for...". Interestingly enough, I argued with a friend who thought it was about the shuttle disaster... and now I see both hypotheses appearing here. Cool. Keep up the good work, fellow Rushians! Tim Alberta (alberta@sarsun.larc.nasa.gov) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Apr 92 19:52:11 -0700 From: Mikael Sheikh <sheikh@ocf.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: The Video "Rushour" I saw a video called "Rushour", that is supposedly a set of interviews from around the time of HYF. Has anyone else heard of this and if so, is it worth spending $20 on? It's cover is the HYF cover (red with three spheres) and the text is more or less typed on. Mikael Sheikh sheikh@ocf.berkeley.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 92 00:32:44 -0400 From: cwg@acpub.duke.edu (CLAY GOLDWEIN) Subject: Lakeside Park I was dumb enough to rent "Strange Brew" to find out more about Lakeside Park. Don't bother doing so yourself. The movie is third rate, and I didn't learn a thing about the park except that it's in Toronto somewhere, eh? ---- Clay Goldwein "Now's the time to turn the tide. cwg@acpub.duke.edu Now's the time to fight. Let us not go gently To the endless winter night." -Neil Peart ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Apr 92 21:16:29 EDT From: dpm@terranet.cts.com (Dave Mitchell) Subject: Bio time! ... I don't know if I should post something like this to the list... So here goes! I'm Dave Mitchell. I live in Mississauga Ontario (just outside of Toronto for the un-geographic, uuh, that's Ontario Canada... :) Anyway -- I am an avid Rush fan. I have to admit that they are the 'rockiest' band I listen to as I am more into the alternative scene. (People come over and say "Got enough Rush CD's?" this amongst groups like NewOrder, Depeche Mode, The Cure and stuff no one has ever heard of outside Toronto) I do have all of their released discs, and (I think) 3 videos including a bootleg of the Hold Your Fire tour at Maple Leaf Gardens (snuck in a HandyCam !) I am also a drummer with many inspirations, but Peart is the one that actually got me interested (indirectly or course.) I have been playing for almost 7 years now and I can play anything he can (EXCEPT WHEN HE SOLOS!!!! But then again -- who could copy that?!) Don't get me wrong, he's not God -- just the next best thing! The reason I am posting this Bio is because I have a special link to Rush. (My claim to fame if you will.) -- Approxamatly 5 years ago my father was out looking for a house (parents are divorced, I live with Mom) He came across a nice, big place in Northren Richmond Hill (again Ontario...) The deal was finalized and I went to help him move in. -- I COULDN'T BELIEVE MY EYES -- I pulled up the driveway with my dad, and there was his wife talking to Alex Lifeson and his wife! (Alex's real last name is something like Zivoyinavitch - The spelling is way off, but that's how you pronounce it) Anyway, I bolteed out of the car and immediatly introduced myself! I didn't want to seem too excited, but I think he could tell that I was wetting my pants a little! -- Anyway, to make a long story short -- The house has, of course, a studio in the basement, a pool, and a tennis court in the ravine behind the house. (It's aprox 4 acres of property) I have played tennis with Alex at his new house (not far away from the old house :) better court than my Dad's! (He actually had the court built before the house was completed!) There have been times when he will call John McEnroe up to play (no I havn't met him...) ! BTW-- His new house? The basement is where they filmed 'Time Stand Still' (from what I was told, and it looks the same...) And the place is PINK! Yes, PINK... He's still in the North end of Richmond Hill, but I won't tell you the address.. (or his phone number for that matter! :) [ Thank you for your discretion. :rush-mgr ] He's a VERY nice and VERY funny guy, and I have a standing invitation to come up and play on Peart's studio set some day. Now... I just have to wait until they all stop touring!!! --- My apologies for this post being so long, but I hope I made it interesting enough to justify it. I also thought it would add something 'special'? to the list. Thanks [ You should let him know about the NMS sometime, and get the band's general impression on band-fan relations. "Your mission, should you choose to accept it...." :-) :rush-mgr ] -dpm +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ David P. Mitchell - "I think it's dark, and it looks like rain." - R.Smith INET: dpm@generic.uucp - dpm@terranet.cts.com - UUCP: utzoo!terranet!dpm 'This .signature could be worth a million someday!' NOT! +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 29 Apr 92 04:29:33 EDT From: Bruce Holtgren <70724.1622@CompuServe.COM> Subject: The Trees, and D&N Just my .02 on The Great Trees Debate ... and yes, just to thoroughly exasperate everyone, my own opinion is completely different from any others offered so far: I originally interpreted "The Trees" as a parable about labor- management relations, taking the line "so the maples formed a union" more literally. However, I think it's about conflict in general. Furthermore, I don't think Peart "takes sides" with *either* the maples or the oaks. The theme of the song is that extremism - use of force and refusal to negotiate in particular - is foolhardy and will inevitably lead only to a bad end for *all* parties that are otherwise supposedly working for a common goal. ("We must all hang together, or surely we will hang separately." - Benjamin Franklin) I must admit I do like the Canada/Britain model, though - the potential maple symbolism, in particular, is too strong to dismiss this possibility. And re "Didacts and Narpets," since it's come up (again) ... I've said it before and I'll say it again: The lyrics are almost certainly deliberately ambiguous. You pretty much hear what you want to hear, which is probably the idea. And if "one of the boyz" really did say in an interview that the lyrics are along the Adult/Child theme, I sure wish the specific interview and specific quotes could be cited - that would be the most definitive answer yet to this enduring mystery. ORQ: "Uyk wuo! Xzk mbq! Zal koiq! Ux siqe! Iygh! Wbizeh! LISTEN!" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1992 09:58:54 EDT From: The Doug-meister <brownd@merrimack.edu> Subject: Rush at Great Woods Does anyone know when tickets will go on sale for the Great Woods show in Mansfield, MA in June? Doug B. "What can this thing be that I've found?" - 2112 ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1992 11:19 EST From: STU_AMBOWEN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Subject: Re: 04/24/92 - The National Midnight Star #473 Hello and thank you for all your work putting this out.Unfortunately I will have no access to a vax for a few months , so please cancel my subscription until I can get back to you.Again--thanks!! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 92 11:50:27 EDT From: "Mercury" <clxdo4c@BUACCA.BU.EDU> Subject: Gawain, Cygnus, and Zivojinich Just some quick trivia I stumbled across: 1) JRR Tolkien seems to have been the authoritative editor of "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight" (and Beowulf, or so Steve says.) 2) Cygnus X-1 is an actual black hole. I did NOT know that. 3) If Alex is of Russian descent, then Zivojinich is an awful lot like a patronymic where Zivo is like zhizn, the russian word for "life". Therefore, if your name is Bob, and your dad's name is Fred, then your patronymic is Bob Fredovich. What I'm getting at is that Zivojinich is as close to Lifeson as you can get in Russian. Assuming Russian descent. Mercury ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1992 12:45 EST From: "Hey! Neil Peart has cancer!! ... NOT!!" <CMCVEY@LOYOLA.EDU> Subject: Merriweather - Neil & Environment I have heard that tickets for the Merriweather Post show in June go on sale May 2nd? Kinda sucks.. I have a final exam that day (yes, on a SATURDAY! LAME!) ALSO! I was at work Sunday 4/26 and I happened to turn on the radio (98 rock) at about noon to discover some sort of show about Rock and the environment. They played environmentally concerned songs by several groups and had a couple interviews with band members. Well, to get to the point, they played a Phil Collins/Genesis song abuot the environment (dont remember the name) and then talked to Phil for about 30 seconds and then suddenly the woman interviewing says: "Neil Peart of Rush." And there's Neil! He starts talking about the damage cars cause to the environment and how electric cars are the wave of the future and will be widespread soon, etc... as he was finishing up they started playing Dreamline but cut it off after about 15-20 seconds... Pretty neat! Did anybody else hear this? I am assuming it was a national show cuz at abuot 12:30 the 98 rock DJ finally came back on after credits for the environment show were given.. Maybe everyone else knew about this and I was just in the dark, but it was a pretty cool surprise and I thought I would pass it along. It was also the first time I heard Neil's voice (besides just saying "SUBDIVISIONS" :))... he has a very good voice though... pretty deep... would make a good radio voice IMHO. _____________________________________________________________________________ O*****************************************************************************O | From the Amiga | Multitasking... | Live for yourself, | | of... | --------------- | There's no-one else more | | -.EZ.- | A M I G A S T Y L E | Worth living for... | |cmcvey@loyola.edu | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | -- N.Peart (RUSH) | O*****************************************************************************O ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 92 13:24:21 -0400 From: Doug Keller <f303@nuvlsi.coe.northeastern.edu> Subject: Tickets for Rush at GreatWoods Tickets for Rush at GreatWoods, in Mansfield, MA go on sale this Saturday, May 2. -- Doug Keller f303@nuvlsi.coe.northeastern.edu Northeastern University, Boston, MA Bix: dkeller Computer Engineering ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 92 13:53 EST From: AARON SILVERMAN <ASILVERM@vax1.trincoll.edu> Subject: Rush for Academic-Types Hey dudes, Several people have said that they're writing papers which involve Rush. Well, I recently read a book called "Heavy Metal: A Cultural Sociology", by a college professor named Deena Weinstein. She mentions Rush a few times, mainly a part about standing outside a Rush concert and discussing lyrics with the fans. It also mentions another book she wrote(which I haven't seen) which is called "Serious Rock: The Lyrics of Pink Floyd, Rush and Bruce Springsteen" (Weird Trio there!). This title may not be exactly right, but you get the picture. Good luck to you paper-writing folks out there. Until Later, Aaron Silverman ASILVERM@TRINCC ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 92 14:27:03 EDT From: Ace <WP921051%PACEVM.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: Rushian Roulette A few years ago, a friend of mine told me about a bootleg album called Rushian (Or Rush In) Roulette. He also said that this album (Yes, it's on vinyl) would randomly pick a song on whichever side was playing...(???) Has anyone heard of this boot? And if so, is it any good, and what about that random song thing??? As far as I know, there's no real way to make that happen since records have to be set up in a certain order for a reason... That's the way the turn table moves... Any info would be appreciated... [ This could be "Russian Roulette" or "Rush 'N Roulette"; one is a double album boot from Chicago in 1981, the other is from Geleen, Holland PinkPop Music Festival from sometime in 1979. As for the "random" playing, I've heard about doulbe-grooved albums, where two album sides are pressed into the same side of an LP. You wouldn't know which one you were going to get until the needle actually set down, and fell into one or the other set of grooves. I'd not heard about either of the above-mentioned being done like this, though... Anyone else? :rush-mgr ] Latle........................... Ace "I do these interviews and people ask me, 'How come you can write all that sensitive stuff and then write all that trash?' and I tell them 'Well, I can be real sensitive on occaision and be real trashy on others.'" -Jimmy Buffet ---------------------------------------------------------- From: spn@ideas.com (Shawn P. Neugebauer) Subject: Balt. - Merriweather ticket sales Date: Wed, 29 Apr 92 14:16:28 EST Since I haven't seen this posted yet... Merriweather tickets on sale 16 May! I talked to the Merriweather office today, and discovered that tickets for the 16 June concert go on sale 16 May. The person confirmed this (at least, she put me on hold while she confirmed it) while I was on the phone. No information on ticket prices, but Merriweather sells through TicketBastard, so they may (not!) have some information soon. -shawn- -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\fold here, tape, and mail today/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Shawn P. Neugebauer Ideas, Inc. spn@ideas.com 410-312-2231 ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1992 15:56:27 -0400 From: Glen E Reed <greed@chopin.udel.edu> Subject: hidden faces Rushppl -- Well, I was expecting to find this on the FAQL list, but since it's not there, I guess I'll just bring up the topic here.... My roommate a few years back had some advertising class or something where they were talking about subliminal messages, and his professor mentioned the ATWAS cover. If you look at the guy's shoulder on this album (as well as they guy on Hemispheres), you can see a face kind of hidden in the shoulder.... Does anyone know if this was intentional, or just some sort of bizarre coincidence, or if I'm just seeing things?? Glen "Trroy" Reed ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 92 14:54:05 EDT From: sjuphil!cd039874@uu.psi.com (Constantinos Dukissis) Subject: Re: 04/27/92 - The National Midnight Star #474 please take me off the mailing list. school is out, see you again in the fall. hope to see everyone at merriweather on june 16th. GO BALTIMORE ORIOLES!!! "when i leave i don't know what i'm hoping to find, and when i leave i don't know what i'm leaving behind." SEE YA. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 92 15:17:42 -0600 From: sdbarnhi@cadehp0.eng.utah.edu (Scott Barnhill) Subject: _Rush-Profiled!_ CD I was reading the FAQ List in NMS and noticed that a fair amount of the answers were coming from the _Rush_Profiled!_ CD. What company puts out this CD and how does one go about obtaining a copy. Also the venue has been set for the May 29th Salt Lake City show... The brand new state of the art Delta Center. Tickets went on sale last Sat. and the show is almost totally Sold Out!!! Pretty amazing for SLC!!! I was able to get 4 tix in the third row and 6 in the fourth.... Anyways, I can't wait until May 29!!! If any onw out there knows any info about the CD please mail me directly, no need to clutter up the NMS. Thank You Much! Scott Barnhill University Of Utah, SLC Utah | * We see so many tribes - overrun and undermined * | | * While thier invaders dream of lands they've left behind * | | * Better people - better food - BETTER BEER * | N. Peart, Territories ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 29 Apr 92 17:38:41 EDT From: Steve <70004.556@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Heresy Hail and well met, all! Had an interesting discussion with a friend of mine the other day. We were discussing 'Heresy'. Turns out he had a different interpretation of the song that I did. It appears to me that Neil is blaming the Soviet military buildup (communism/collectivism) for the 'fear and suffering' that both the russian people AND western cultures experienced during the cold war. My friend viewed it differently. He believes that Neil is blaming the American government as well for over-reacting to the Soviet threat, 'All a big mistake.' It seems to me, evidenced by previous songs, that Neil views the threat of collectivistic totalitarian governments very seriously. It's certainly evident throughout many songs, 2112, Red Sector A, Red Lenses, The Trees...the list goes on. Any thoughts on what the 'big mistake' is? Is it Communism/Socialism or paranoid capatilists? Maybe both? Also, to those losing sleep over Firehouse's _Hold Your Fire_, a couple of words from a very respected poet... " (we) disengage (we) TURN THE PAGE!" Below the waterline, -=Steve. 70004.556@compuserve.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 92 17:29:36 -0500 From: Brian E. Saunders <saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu> Subject: Long Live the NMS! Well, the new alt.music.rush newsgroup has caused some buzz over the future of the NMS, but after a week of complete drivle, I don't think we need worry anymore. The topics on that group have gone from lame to annoying to ridiculous, and I am just about to type that "u". One thing that particularly annoys me is this comparison of groups crap. Who cares? Just like something; don't defend it all the time. Geeesh! Keep it up, Mr. Manager. If I have anything useful to say about Rush, I'll post it here. And I suspect most of the readers here will do that as well. Brian ---------------------------------------------------------- From: madmax@Athena.MIT.EDU Subject: Rush at Great Woods, MA Date: Wed, 29 Apr 92 21:33:38 EDT On June 17th, Rush will be playing Great Woods which is in some podunk town a little southwest of Boston. However, Great Woods itself is an amazing place. Covered outdoor stadium.... Anyways, tickets go on sale this Saturday, May 2nd, same day as tix go on sale for the Meadowlands show in East Rutherford, NJ. Beware the idiots at ticketbastard messing up if you plan to go to either, or both as I do. In the concert halls......(NP) Kimball ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1992 23:15 EDT From: "Excuse me, I've lost my marbles" <LISSA%WHEATNMA.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu> Subject: Great Woods date... Hi all... Just confirmed today...Rush is playing Great Woods in Mansfield, Massachussetts on June 17th, with Mr. Big opening. Tickets go on sale Saturday morning, through TicketMaster (sorry, don't know when the Great Woods box office is opening...if I find out, I'll let you know!!) Melissa Jehnings Wheaton College Norton, MA BITNET: LISSA@WHEATNMA ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Apr 92 11:17:07 WST From: soudur_a@ultarr.cs.uwa.edu.au (Mega Goon) Subject: 2112 and TRM Hi all!! Guess what, the 2112 suite got played in its entirety on radio last night!! (29/4) Not a bad effort for an Autralian Radio station huh?? Considering that most oz radio is shit boring and completely bland...the only other rush song i've heard on the radio is AFTK... point number two To the guy named todd who tried to contact me about the Rhythm Method Drum Transcripts (ie the todd with the Alesis drum machine), please get in contact with me, all the mail i tried to send you was bounced back to me!! seeya later *** RUSH ELP YES QUEEN QUEENSRYCHE FATES WARNING KING'S X *** *** Adam Soudure can be reached at : *** *** soudur_a@kultarr.cs.uwa.oz.au *** *** gillius@uniwa.uwa.oz.au *** *** IRON MAIDEN MOTORHEAD GENESIS KANSAS TRIUMPH *** ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 92 23:33:10 EDT From: jalhart@skidmore.EDU (Lerxst) Subject: Jones Beach & Meadowlands I just heard that both shows will go on sale simultaneously at 9AM this coming Saturday. Again it is Juen 19 Meadowlands Arena June 20 Jones Beach Bye Ken F. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1992 03:55 EST From: MORETT44%SNYBUFVA.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Subject: Directions to StarLake Amp. Wanted Hey There, Hi There, Ho There... After a week in Daytona Beach, I was finally able to catch up on the last 8 or so issues. But I was bummed to find out that there have been no dates mentioned for the Finger Lakes Pavilion :^( but I did notice there is a date in Pittsburgh at the StarLake Amphitheater!! :^) My question is toward anyone with an idea where StarLake is located, I live in Buffalo and there is no problem of getting to Pittsburgh itself (matter of fact had a nice view of it on the way to FLA.) I just need an idea of where it may be located in relation to the city. Either post it here or send it to me via E-mail. THANKS!!! Tony Moretta morett44@snybufva.cs.snybuf.edu "Got to pick up the pace if you want to stay in the race" -- GO SABRES!! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: David Arnold <davida@syrinx.umd.edu> Subject: Merriweather Get-together? Hi all you local (MD/VA/DC) NMS'ers! I had an idea for the Merriweather show. What are your thoughts on a get-together on the lawn at the show? Here's my thoughs: we get a few people to get to the gates early enough, get in right away when they open, and set up camp front & center on the lawn. We can set up some kind of "NMS" sign, and anyone from the list can stop by and meet other list members. We've tried things like this in the past (at shows, not pre-show parties), but have had limited success. I think this is mostly due to people not wanting to stand around in the parking lot in the dark freezing at Nov-Feb shows around here (I know I don't). But, weather permitting, if all we have to do is stroll around in the sunshine and look for friendly faces in good seats, that might make it easier to pull off. I don't know what kind of seats I'm going to get, but here's what I suggest. We arrange for a contingent to be there early the day of the show, say an hour before the gates open. When we get inside, we make a beeline for the choice spots on the lawn and set up. We create a sign (cardboard and magic marker work fine) announcing the "NMS area" and see who swings by to say hi. We sit around and eat fried chicken and whatever else we bring and have a good old time. Even those of us/you that have pavillion seats can come up before the show, and maybe during Mr. Big as well. As for me, either I'm getting decent seats via a connection (FOAF), or I'll be lawning it with the rest of the rabble. Either way I'd be interested in hanging on the lawn at least until Mr Big is done. I know I can get several people to get into this (Barry, Skip, Pat, Del, Erin etc - I know you people are out there!). It's a great way to meet those anonymous people you've been reading so much from all this time... If you're interested, drop me a line. I'll try to set up some kind of file with people's names and e-mail addresses. We can have a sign-in at the show. :-) :-) David Arnold | Rush/Jethro Tull/Crack the Sky/Squeeze/ Inet: davida@syrinx.umd.edu | Neville Brothers/Peter Gabriel/Queen/ Bitnet: davida%syrinx.umd.edu@cunyvm | Talking Heads/King Crimson/Pink Floyd/ UUCP: uunet!syrinx.umd.edu!davida | Rolling Stones/BOC/ELP/Police/SRV NeXTmail: davida@anagram.umd.edu ----------------------------------------------------------
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