The National Midnight Star #403

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 12/14/91 - The National Midnight Star #403
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Turner, Valkonen, fanaticism, et al Misinterpreting Rand Available Boots List Concert Atmosphere Rush Fanaticism & a SPOILER A road adventurer from the other face of the earth Rush and Rand 12/12/91 show at the Knick, Albany, NY Awesome in Albany *SPOILERS* Transcription of NY Times Concert Review ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Editor, The National Midnight Star <rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu> Subject: Administrivia Just a couple of quickies: PLEASE send your mail to the correct address. I've gotten several list posts at the administrative address in the last week or two. It just adds that much overhead to this job to forward the item to the right address, then send mail back to the culprit, then edit the header in the NMS when I put it together (so it didn't come from me, but the original poster). It may sound like a picket nit, but it would help me out. Also, remember, when you temporarily unsubscribe, it's up to *you* to resubscribe when you're back. With the size of this list I can't be responsible for remembering when to re-add someone... Enough bitching, on with the show. rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1991 16:08:11 -0500 (EST) From: Benjamin John Kman <bk0v+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: HELP, PLEASE!!!!! ******************************************** Someone, please give me a hand. For the past few years I've been looking for guitar tabliture of Rush songs. I can't find any at all. I have all anthologies and song books but they don't quite cut it. If anyone can send me, or give me info about, Rush guitar tabliture (music notes for those of us who can't read music) PLEASE call me at 412 681-6229. I'll gladly pay. THANKS. Matt Majewski @andrew.cmu.edu.bk0v [ Thera are tab files available via anonymous ftp at syrinx in the directory 'rush/tab'. The list is modest, but growing, thanks to our list members! :rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 91 16:33:48 -0500 From: nam2@po.CWRU.Edu (Nicholas A. Mascari) Subject: Rush gifs Hi all. I remember somebody asking this question before but I don't remember seeing an answer. I can't view the gifs I download from the ftp site. I am using compushow and vgif but niether will work. They do other gifs fine, but I can't seem to view any gifs from syrinx. To those who have successfully seen them, what program do you use? And is it possible to download that program from you? Just email at the address : nam2@po.CWRU.Edu Thanks. -- |~~~\ | | /~~~\ | | Nick Mascari-Case Western Reserve |___/ | | \ |____| "...he knows changes aren't | \ | | \ | | permanent, but change is."-Neil Peart | \ \__/ \___/ | | Go Browns Go Beta ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 91 16:54:28 EST From: USER7ASW@ub.cc.umich.edu Subject: Signals Discovery! After learning of the "Lerxtwood Mall" and such from the back of "Signals", I proceeded to examine the map. I only have the casette, sans map, but I had access to someone's CD. Yes, all of the nicknames are there, but there is also the Warren Cromartie Secondary School. For those of you who don't know, Warren Cromartie was an outfielder for the Montreal Expos during the late 70s - early 80s. Obviously, this was Geddy's idea. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1991 17:20:40 -0500 From: mike%beow.uucp%gatech.edu@mathcs.emory.edu (Mike Kazmierczak) Subject: Re: 12/10/91 - The National Midnight Star #398 On Tue, 10 Dec 91, nanovx!gatech!syrinx.umd.edu!rush wrote: >Date: Tue, 10 Dec 91 08:16:49 EST >Subject: The Fountainhead Movie >From: borger@ascc01.att.com! > >> Date: Sat, 7 Dec 91 15:00:47 -0500 >> From: "Douglas G Schwabe" <cschwabe@unix.cis.pitt.edu> >> Subject: Gary Cooper >> >> [...] >> Question: Has anyone seen "The Fountainhead"? Is it available on video? >> [...] > >I've not personally seen "The Fountainhead" film, but it is certainly >out there. It stars Gary Cooper, too, if memory serves. I appreciate >the book very much, but shied away from a chance to see the movie >because I thought it would be a let-down. I may be wrong, since I >read that Ayn Rand was pleased with the production of the movie... > The movie, "The Fountainhead", is available on VHS tape. I ahve rented it. It does star Gary Cooper and is an excellent movie. Now if someone would just produce "Atlas Shrugged" as a mini-series... Mike Kazmierczak X Systems UUCP: gatech!beow!mike INTERNET: mike%beow.uucp@gatech.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 91 23:12:55 -0500 From: gt9248a@prism.gatech.edu (SCHUBERT,MICHAEL K) Subject: Gangster of Boats I have seen people questioning whether there are any other songs within the Gangster of Boats Trilogy, but my question is how can Where's My Thing be Part Four in a Trilogy?? As for those arguing the talents of the men (I dare say boys), you obviously have overlooked the fact that Neil Peart is consistently voted Best Drummer by the readers of Modern Drummer magazine. Somehow I think they (I being one of them and a percussionist of 10 years) would know more about percussive performance than anyone else. The reason Neil Peart is good (I won't call himm the best since "There are no absolutes") is because he can reproduce his studio performance without any aid. He doesn't go back and overdub drum samples. He doesn't try and baffle people by adding impossible licks later in the mastering process of the album. He has raw talent and can surprisingly still move on his kit for a man over the hill. For the record, I do not worship Rush, I just enjoy their music and the talents of Neil. I guess you could say I idolize Neil. Have a Holiday. Mike Schubert gt9248a@prism.gatech.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 91 23:17:22 -0500 From: ba080@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jim B. Stevenson) Subject: Roll dem bones G&S all, I was talking to the dude at Record Den, and he said that the boyz might be coming back to Cleveland (at the Blossom music center or whatever it's called). Can anyone verify this??? I'd give anything to see Rush again!!! The dude at RD is very reliable (as he's been correct about the final dates of GnR's new CDs, and even got me a copy of RTB 2 days before the release date :-). I hope this rumor is right!! By the way, I finally got my hands on the "Archives" set on tape. The record set may follow. Once again, anyone who has, or plans to get, a bootleg of the RTB tour, LEMME KNOW!!!!!!!!!! Until I return again, Jim Stevenson "RushFan" in IRC "I want to look at life - In the available light" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 12 Dec 91 23:34 EST From: khazanov@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ilya Khazanov) Subject: Noise at Rush concert What's up, everyone. This is my first post. I am responding to the poster who said that the concert he went to was really loud. I had that same problem when I went to some other concerts both at large arenas (Capital Center) and smaller places. Generally what I find is that the opening act screws your ears up the most. As soon as Vinnie Moore hit the stage, I said to myself "Oh shit, are my ears going to be ringing." He was so noisy, it seemed like there was more distortion than music. After that, during the intermission, I went to the bathroom and could hardly hear anything. By the time Rush came onstage, I had recovered enough to hear them perfectly. Either I was really deaf and they were really loud, or I was fine and they weren't too loud. Whatever the case, I heard almost everything, including that cool speaker setup at the back of the center. After two days, my ears were fine. However, I will bring earplugs for opening groups from now on. I think I am still recovering from a concert I went to this summer. I won't say who for fear of flamage, but suffice it to say that it was _loud._ Have fun! - Il "roll the bones!" - Mark DeCarlo, _Studs_ ------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1991 00:15:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Philip M. Simon" <ps3q+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Rush Fans I have to disagree with some of the more recent posts about Rush fans' fanaticism superceding their common sense. The general theme about Rush fans, which as of late has been discussed, is that we can take no criticism about the boyz and take an absolutist position with regard to their music. I can only speak for myself (and maybe a few friends), but I vehemently disagree with these kind of statements, for I'd like to think that this is the exception rather than the rule. Many of the Rush fans I know keep at least some degree of objectivity about the band and its members. For example, we think of Rush as "our favorite" band as opposed to the best band; Neil as _one of_ the best drummers ever (to argue absolutes is pointless and endless). I take no umbrage with someone says "Well, I like group X better" or "I don't like or listen to Rush." However, what I do have a problem with is the individual who derides Rush, and/or refuses to recognize their music ability at all. I've heard on innumerable occasions (from the ignorant masses) the words "Rush sucks." This I have no tolerance for, since objectively their talent as musicians (and Neil's as a lyricist) cannot be legitimately denied. In short, I'd like to think that Rush fans are quite dedicated, but not blinded by our love for the band. And as dedicated fans, we like to defend our group when they are attacked. I take a similar stand with the Washington Redskins (my favorite football team for almost a decade now). I happen to think that they are the best the NFL has to offer, but I will argue that point (as well as many others) any time. The operative word is "intelligently". The same principle applies to Rush. I contend that the majority of us realize they are just human beings, capable of making mistakes and producing less than spectacular music. But we, or at least I, will not sit idly by as they are unjustly disparaged. Phil Simon "We use instruments." Alex Lifeson ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 91 00:25:34 EST From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) Subject: Rush worship & Rand and Rush: errors. Well, the last NMS was quite disappointing! Having seen what was perhaps one of the most incredible Rush shows ever (12/10, Worcester) I learned that Eric wasn't able to pull off his DAT coup (sorry, man!). Then the pathetic subject of `Rush worship' came up again, and my friend (really!) Tero repeated the title of his original anti-Rush-worship submission which happens to include my name! By now I'm sure Tero knows that I'm not _really_ a Rush worshipper. I _am_, however, enthusiastic about Rush and their ideas. There are (very few) people on this list who may go overboard in their praise. This happens when someone makes a comparison between Rush and some other band (or musician) which they _personally_ don't like or are tired of hearing praised (especially by Rolling Stone!). The result is sure to be absurd under these conditions, because taste is substituted for substance. This is what should be avoided. Happily, I can say I've never made such comparisons, which is why I regret Tero's use of my name. I am not someone who says `Rush are gods!'; in fact it's against my religious principles (to the extent that I have any) to say of any human (or group of humans) that he is god. And, of course, only someone with no sense of reality could literally _mean_ such statements. What such a person is _actually_ doing is making the dogmatic leap of judgement to: Rush (or Neil or Geddy or Alex) are the best musicians who ever lived and no-one will _ever_ be better. Well, this is just irrational. So let us hope that no more of our fellows will `snap!' in the future. On the other hand, please don't lump enthusiasts such as myself with such people just because we love Rush and praise them in a rational manner. Speaking of rationality and fanaticism, a few (in my well considered opinion) falsities were written, in the last NMS, about the relationship between Ayn Rand's ideas and Rush lyrics. I like Ayn Rand's novels and many of her ideas, though I find her philosophy impoverished in many respects (MO, no flames, please). Neil has certainly been affected by Rand and I think he still is. _Roll the Bones_ makes that clear, and it is not IMO unrelated that during this tour ``Anthem'' reappeared in their set. Neil said in a `Kerrang' Interview (``The Spirit of Peart'' ~1983) that he's ``not as big a fan of [Rand] as [he's] made out to be.'' On the other hand when asked recently (Backstage Club newsletter) how he feels about Rand, he said ``Pretty good. How about you?'' So, though the _influence_ is there, perhaps, but explicit support of the _2112_/`Anthem' kind are waning... Now on to the erroneous posting: >Freewill expresses another Rand concept of >atheism, complete freewill and your obligation to decide for yourself. It is true that Rand was an atheist and considered any theist to be irrational. But there is nothing in ``Freewill'' expressing atheism; there is only a criticism of deterministic psychology deriving from the presumption of absolute supernatural control. The three monotheistic religions of the world declare that man has free will. So it is not correct to say that `Freewill expresses...atheism', sorry. RTB' is far more skeptical than `Free Will,' but it stops short of atheism also (see below). >Limelight, Witch Hunt, and Vital Signs all express basically the evils of >mass popular culture, the mob, and mass produced super technology. Major conclusion jumping. Explain. All! Certainly `Witch Hunt' doesn't have anything to do with the mass-produced super-technology. Rand is certainly _for_ mass-produced super technology, anyway! >Subdivisions >is all about childhood battles for independence against an all absorbing >society, as is Kid Gloves. The Body Electric is another example of super >technology trying to have freewill. See above. What is the other example of super-technology trying to have free will? Neil just likes the possibilities lying in technology (and is wary of the effects of its going out of control). As for free will, one either has it or doesn't. When Neil writes ``I will choose free will'' he means he will choose the _thesis_ of free will, not free will itself! >Neil expresses a belief that emotion >must be balanced with rationality in Open Secrets when he says " I find >no absolution in my rational point of view. Maybe somethings are instinctive, >but there is one thing you can do." This leaves out what comes next: `You can try to understand me.' Rand never particularly advocated worrying about other people's thoughts and feelings (unless those people are threatening one). Rand said that emotion must be _based_ on reason, not just balanced with it. Open Secrets is not particularly Randian. > Superconductor is an example of people >who just perform to please the crowd and soak up second-hand self esteem. This one is quiet correct. This is very Randian; a study of the `second hander' in popular Western culture. It was great live this tour, too! >Most of RTB talks about not believing in fate or supreme being but in taking >our chances and living life to the fullest. Again, it's not correct to say that Neil talks about atheism here. Instead he is skeptical about the existence of a supreme being. This is called `agnosticism.' Look at `Row the Boats' (in the syrinx archives or the tour book) and the song `You Bet Your Life' to see what Neil thinks about belief. He's far more open-minded (though just as serious, IMO) in his thinking than Rand... So, the Rand influence remains, but it is _not_ _everywhere_! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gregg Jaeger (jaeger@buphy.bu.edu) | Tristero? Treestero? Dept(s). of Physics (and Philosophy) | ______/|/| 590 Commonwealth Ave. | (_) \|\| Boston University, Boston MA 02215 | WASTE: Box 49 Boston. Trystero? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1991 22:42 MST From: WILLIAM MARK WOODRUFF <WOODRUFF@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU> Subject: Turner, Valkonen, fanaticism, et al Hi all, My first post to TNMS. As the topic of fanaticism seems to have arisen, I feel compelled to add my two cents about "rush worship" as well as RTB. I have been a DIE HARD Rush fan for some 13 years and have seen them live at least once per tour on every tour since Permanent Waves. Thus, I have seen them literally bring the house down and, more than once, I have seen them "bite the big one". I don't care who you are or what band you're with, sometimes you have a bad night- WE ARE ALL (even rush) HUMAN. As well as 13 years of devout interest in Rush, I have played lead guitar and bass for some 15 years, so I feel competent in saying that these guys are, without question, fine musicians. I don't think anyone would argue that point. Perhaps no other factor has so impacted my personal philosophies, musicianship, and my "critical" ear as these three guys. But I DO NOT worship them, their music, or their philosophies. They are just three guys who do what they do very precisely and effectively- and I like it a lot. But there lies a great danger in accepting anything rush does just because they are "Rush"- this applies to any band, politician, leader, philosophy or ideal. Isn't this the very message that underlies "Rush"? The insidious nature of fanaticism leaves us sometimes wide open to "blind" following. My point is that, as listeners and fans, we must all keep a rational and objective eye on ourselves, or the whole rush "journey" is pointless. Finally, a quick comment on RTB- Indeed it is a fantastic album- as far as rock and roll goes, but IMO, the album is mediocre for a Rush album. The songs have predictable form and less than challenging technical aspects. The very thing that in the past set them so far above the rest of the rock world. (unpredictable form and CHALLENGING phrases). In light of this, I think I will forgo seeing this tour, as I believe that, thus far, I have seen the best they can do- perhaps I will be pleasently surprised in the future. Anyone feeling the desire to flame me, please do so, but e-mail me privately and save TNMS for more constructive exchanges. Wm. Mark Woodruff woodruff@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu "Sadder still to watch it die than never to have known it" -- Loosing It, Signals ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 91 09:00 EST From: "Jim_C.Matthews" <15432JCM@msu.edu> Subject: Misinterpreting Rand Matt the bassist: Neil's influence by Ayn Rand is, of course, unmistakeable(the best exampleI can think, excluding the whole of '2112', is the 'Trees'). But be careful about trying to paint him as an objectivist because HE IS NOT. I've read enough of his lyrics to know this. I don't want to get this list in a big Rand discussion, but suffice it to say that one should not speak authoritativly about objectivism when talking about a compromise between reason and love (Hemipheres). Neil's interpretationis one thing, Ayn Rand's idea here is another. Accordding to objectivism and Ayn Rand, there no such thing as 'bad' or 'too much' reason or selfishness. I'm assuminghere that by selfishness, I mean rational egoism. This is something totally different than what Neil writes about sometimes. As much as I respect Neil in a ton of different ways, I still don't like many of his lyrics-e.g. Mystic Rythems, Territories (anti-property?), basically everything after Signals. Matt, you must be new to Ayn Rand or you haven't read much. If so, consult some of her non-fiction on her idea of 'selfishness' and then recompare this to Neil's interpretation thereof. I think you'll find some important differences. Be careful not to take Neil's ideas as synonomous with those of objectivism. They are often quite different. Jim Matthews Michigan State University ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 91 10:26:57 -0500 From: "Dylan Kaufman" <morgan@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: Available Boots List I have two messages regarding the available boots list: 1) it is currently available for ftp in the directory morgan/abl on chaos.cs.brandei.edu (129.64.2.6) as the files 'format', 'item', and 'people'. 2) I no longer feel I have the time to handle the list, though it is not a lot of work. I have been so busy of late that I a) didn't get to go see RUSH at Worcester or Hartford (of course, I can't afford it anyway) and b) hardly ever bother reading the digest, I just scan the titles and see if there's anything of great interest to me... In any case, I will leave the files available on chaos for the time being, but I would like to find someone who would like to take over the management of the list from me. Anyone interested? -<>Dylan<>- MA EMT-M, CA EMT-1A, BEMCo 107 Dylan Kaufman Major in Computer Science morgan@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu Brandeis University, Waltham, MA ------<< Support your local Emergency Medical Services >>------- And on the seventh day, even He rested. We don't. -Emerg. Med. Svcs. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1991 08:36 MST From: "Eric Kay (303) 499-7577" <KAY_E@CUBLDR.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Concert Atmosphere Some time ago Derek L. wrote: > All in all I was impressed as usual. My only major caveat was that > the audience was nowhere near the standards I am used to at Rush > concerts. Why, I could only see about three other air-drummers from > my standpoint! And while I had pretty mediocre seats (second tier, > looking straight into Neil's kit), even the floor didn't look as > captivated as usual. (It was funny -- the guy to my right was > standing stock still, jacket over his folded arms, unresponsive to > everything, while I was jumping, singing, using my the back of my leg > against my folded seat as a kick bass, and air-drumming next to him -- > and on his other side, his girlfriend was equally animated! Kind of > the reverse of what you'd expect. :-) ============ Some of us go to the show to hear and see Rush, not to be heard or seen. Eric Kay ---------------------------------------------------------- From: bigal@wpi.WPI.EDU (Nathan Charles Crowell) Subject: Rush Fanaticism & a SPOILER Date: Fri, 13 Dec 91 10:35:50 EST I hope everyone reads this because the spoiler portion will be conspicuously concealed at the end.... Anyway. I've been a die-hard Rush fan (like most of you, I'm sure) for about 10-12 years now. At times I've crossed the line into fanaticism, but I think now I've got a broader view. My point is (aside from at the top of my head) that maybe we all have periods of hero-worship in our lives. Let's face it, the last 10-15 years haven't exactly been replete with heros (or heroines)! Rush has al- ways served as something to look up to for me. By consistently re- maining true to their musical ideals (their personal one's are of no consequence to me), they affirm my belief that you have to strive for some goal. This may still sound like fanaticism, but I disagree. They play great music, they play it more or less the way they want to, and they have a good time. What else can anyone ask for but to do what they like doing for a living? *end soapbox mode -----SPOILER----CUT HERE----SPOILER----CUT HERE----SPOILER----CUT HERE---- The show from Dec. 10 in Worcester MA was incredible! I had al- ready seen them in Rochester, NY, and boy, the improvement was staggering. They had ironed out all of the rough spots, and sample timings. and they were in an incredible mood. Neil was so relaxed and funny. I thought he was having a second childhood! At the end of a song, he did the "And they're off!" trumpet call on bells. Very amusing! During the medley, he actually stood up and did Pete Townsend-style air guitar with Ged! The solos, everyone's, were stellar! Alex extended almost all of the RTB solos, and modify several of the classic ones. A glowing gem of the evening was Ghost of A Chance, which is apparently now part of the permanent set list. They weren't playing it earlier in the tour, so I was happy to see the show in two different incarnations. All in all, the jamming and performance were spectacular, and the person who said that missing this tour would be a big mistake is certainly correct! Hope I get to see them in Baltimore and Long Island! Nate ORQ: "Get out there and rock, and ROLL THE BONES!" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 91 16:43:10 TUR From: "Tuncer Y. Guven" <C87752%TRMETU.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: A road adventurer from the other face of the earth Hi to all NMS road adventurers, I'm an Alexian school guitar player and a dedicated student of Rush realms of wisdom and emotion for ten years. I know that it's unusual to ask from total strangers but I have to do this for my desperate demand. It's the concert recordings, guys. I know that Rush played Chemistry, The Analog Kid, Countdown on Signals tour, Afterimage (several times), Kid Gloves, Between The Wheels on GUP tour, Middletown Dreams, Red Lenses, Grand Designs on Power Windows tour and these songs were not put on the latest live album as we all know. I've even heard of the CD bootleg of Presto tour which was on market in England and reading NMS makes the situation more difficult to bear : there are Rush Fans out there listening to first two shows of RTB tour comfortably on their stereos. My only request is if you have any of the bootlegs of the tours that I mentioned above or any bootlegs of tours starting from Hemispheres tour, please, email me your address I will forward a blank tape or tapes, expenses, etc. Hearing the above mentioned songs live is something which is so ultimately important & vital thing for me! The second thing I want to say - although I know that it will make some Rush fans furious about me - is on some of the articles written by some Rush fans, here it goes : RUSH IS A FORM OF ART, YOU EITHER LIKE OR DISLIKE. It's strange to see comparison comments on the old albums and the new ones, if the new albums do not coincide with your personal taste, it's not because Rush's music was better in the old days, it's because that Rush makes albums beyond your expectations or predictions and to understand any new album done by Rush, you have to modify and update your patterns of recognition, perception and other clever senses. This is a dynamic system we are living in and Rush is aware of that more than anyone else. Also, buying a Rush album does not give you the right to treat Rush as if it's your own property, it's a material thing you buy, you don't buy any right to criticize them. So if you have guts to face the reality, it's an ultimate challenge to understand a new album done by Rush. Believe or not, each new album is unpredictable steps ahead of the previous one whether you like it or not, it's a fact and it's correct! Also, a footnote on Eric Johnson, to me Rush is the only band which absolutely has no substitute, and is based on real integrity very artistically and scientifically, but there are also some other bands that can be appreciated to certain degrees with frank approaches as well. Eric Johnson is one of the best examples I can think of, his whole work on the tunes both technical-wise and musical-wise is very cleverly worked out and deeply thought. Alex has absolutely no substitute on the planet, Eric also as a guitar player and a musician who is so noble and real, can be appreciated very much objectively. Rush is one of the rarest things in the world forcing us to be as objective as possible, so we are responsible for what we say about Rush. Tuncer "The Analog Kid" C87752@trmetu.bitnet P.S. I'm a member of a band which has been playing Rush tunes for a long time. If you send me a blank tape, I could also record some of the Rush tunes we play, our name is ONAWAY we are a three piece band. We are all university students, we've been thinking of transporting the name of our band across the ocean for a long time... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1991 13:23:42 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew W Cushman <mc7l+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Rush and Rand No one can argue that Rand has had a great impact on early Rush, but there seems to be a bit of a discrepency about her effect on later Rush. I think that Objectivism tends to be an "Immature" philosophy (I'm going to get flamed for that, but owell). I'm not saying that it is bad, or has no practical use (just like children don't have "no practical use" and aren't "bad"). Immature is a word that has taken on an far too negative meaning in modern society. Take, for example, the issue of the so-called "Robber barons". Rand admires them, almost deifies them. I also feel that they deserve a great amount of respect for forging great empires from nothing but hard work (and I certainly don't feel that they OWE anyone anything for that), but that view is tempered by the knowledge that they also paid off public officials, sabatoged competetor's equipment, and participated in a host of other little improprieties. What I DO mean by immature is that it is the first philosophy that many grab onto when first delving into the world of ideas, due to its romantic image, its "Rationality", etc. After an initial infatuation period, however, I think most people tend to become slightly more moderate about Objectivism, and may slide a bit towards other philosophies. It is a natural progression. I think Neil has done this through the years, slowly assimilating his old Objectivist ideas with newly found ones. So, new Rush might not be "based" on Ayn Rand, but still has a distinctly Rand flavor. Look at some specific issues: it is still athiestic (Ghost of a Chance), still individualistic (Dreamline), and still has the vibrant call of life that Rand often tried to capture in her writing. Above and beyond that it contains references to other schools of thought, as well as some uniquely Rush ideas. I would rather see this than a stagnant mindset that only harped on Objectivism. Matt- CMU math and philosophy departments email address (for ease of flaming): mc7l@andrew.cmu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Reynolds <reynoldk@unvax.union.edu> Subject: 12/12/91 show at the Knick, Albany, NY Date: Fri, 13 Dec 91 13:45:07 EST In the past, I have been mostly an observer to this list, however, with all of the current talk about the RTB tour and the fact that I just saw the Albany show last night, I have decided to put in my two cents. The show last night was quite enjoyable. This show was much better than the Presto show that came by two years ago. I enjoyed all of the prerequisite effects, such as the laser lights, the fog, the movie screen, as well as music so well played that even my dad would have liked the show. I would like to comment on a few of the past posts and what I experienced. Someone commented that the definition of poor crowd quality was that of a passive audience; one that does not act like they are having a seizure every time they hear the beginning of a new song, whether the song be a popular one or not. I am a passive person, but the show energized me in a different fashion. The reverberations from the bass and the drums caused the entire arena, including myself, to vibrate. I was tapping my foot and playing a little bit of the air drums, but I happened to want to sit down and relax when I watched. Spend your entire day, working at a Kay-Bee toy shop in a mall, standing up and dealing with the usual "joyous" christmas shoppers, and we'll see how many people will want to jump up and down for 2 hours. But, enough of that. My seats were on the lower level, on the RHS, about six rows from the floor, halfway back. I could see the entire stage perfectly while seated. I agree that "The Rhythm Method" was the best that I had heard. It really went well; the best that I have heard Neil perform it. I also believe that Geddy did not do the rap live due to the initial volume difficulties that occured when the rap began on the screen. Otherwise, I don't remember a time where the music was too loud to hear the vocals or when the effects were out of sync with the rest of the song. I was a little disappointed to see the return of the"magic" on stage. When that happened, I could accurately predict what the next ten minutes was going to be. I like to guess what comes next in a show, but this "magic" clue was a total giveaway. All in all, it was the best show that I have seen. Also, it wasn't as loud as the last show. Even Vinnie Moore was more deafening. I guess that each stop on the tour provides the band with constant opportunities to fine-tune their performances. I highly recommend that that you blow $20 to see the show. The Beef. reynoldk@unvax.union.edu That's Union College, in Schenectady, NY. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Robert Mchenry <mchenk@rpi.edu> Date: fRI, 13 Dec 91 14:17:26 -0500 Subject: Awesome in Albany *SPOILERS* Let me start with an overall response, WOW!! What a show. I've been eagerly awaiting this show for god knows how long and it was well worth the wait. As expected Vinnie Moore sucked but not as bad as everyone said. But anyway, thats not what I went to see. Rush totally kicked ass, even more so than on the Presto tour which blew me away at the time. Neil's solo was absolutely amazing. The encore was great, what can i say? it was the best (excludingPink Floyd'88). I was a little disapointed that they didn't play Mission (one of my favorites) and the sampling on Force Ten was a little off, but all in all it gave me woody. Now for a couple questions. Anyone know the significance (if any) of those gray splotches on the screen during Dreamline? Also, Does anyone know for sure if they're playing Nassau Colesium or Meadowlands on March 13? This is somewhat important to me since thats my spring break and if I'm home on L.I. I can see them again if they play Nassau. Anyway, I've heard both so thats why I ask. I'll appreciate any info. Thanx, Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 91 15:36:13 EST From: "David S. Schmidt" <dschmidt@sales.stern.nyu.edu> Subject: Transcription of NY Times Concert Review This is the NY Times review that somebody mentioned in a recent issue of the NMS. Note: some of this might be considered a SPOILER. Reprinted without permission from the NY Times, 12/11/91, pg. C22: Review/Rock More Technological than Human by Karen Schoemer Rush's concert at Madision Square Garden on Friday night was so overwhelming that it was easy to forget there were actually three men onstage. Before Geddy Lee, Alex Lifeson, and Neil Peart even took the stage, a wide-screen projection showed a vaguely Cubist animated cartoon of the three musicians vaulting through the air with their instruments. Throughout the set, the backdrop intermittently displayed diverse and surreal images of drum kits suspended over water, geometric computer graphics, children gazing at space ships and flying bird's-eye views of landscapes. The music itself was not so much a collection of songs as a nonstop technological force. Mr. Peart, the drummer, seldom played anything as simple as a back beat, instead laying down complex, assaultive patterns with frequent time changes. Mr. Lifeson's speedy, baroque guitar solos added the next layer, with their counterpoint in Mr. Lee's florid, melodic bass lines. But during numbers like "Roll the Bones," the title track from Rush's latest album on Atlantic, most of the music semmed to come from prerecorded backing tapes, anyway. Combine this with a film of a skeleton in Wayfarer sunglasses doing an electronic rap, and the musicians themselves were practically invisible. The thousands of teen-agers in the audience, most of them male, screamed every lyric and punched their fists in the air. The played air guitar, air keyboards, and air drums. Since Rush's 1974 debut album, continuing with early 1980's albums like "Permanent Waves" and "Moving Pictures," this band has been a kind of rite of passage. With lyrics about such grand philosophic issues as free will, destiny and apocalypse, Rush creates music that is bigger than life, dazzling in its technological feats. The teen-age mind is chaos; Rush is perfect order. It's like a sonic video game. On Firday night, Mr. Lee, who is also the vocalist, rarely addressed the audience. He didn't move around onstage much, except to give a stiff kick here and there. By the end of the concert and songs like "Tom Sawyer," swirling prisms of laser light surrounded him and Mr. Lifeson, and one wondered whether they were indeed robots or holograms. Then during the encore rendition of "The Spirit of Radio," from "Permanent Waves," Mr. Lee suddenly smiled and clapped Mr. Lifeson on the back. Such a simple gesture came as a tremendous relief; they _were_ human, after all. * End Transcription ----------------------------------------------------------
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