The National Midnight Star #398

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RUSH in Oakland, CA Neil's Rockline Taped And Available Las Cruces and Pheonix tix peter collins RUSH in Richmond, VA ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Editor, The National Midnight Star <rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu> Subject: Administrivia Since I've gotten this question once, I figured I'd nip it in the bud and clarify what I wrote yesterday. If you know you are losing computer access over the break (or at ANY time), please send mail to the administrative address so I can take you off the list. This avoids headaches for me having your mail start bouncing back at me. Also, send this mail when you want to be removed, not a week or two beforehand; I'll never remember. A day or two maybe, but not a week or two. I was able to do that when the list was a measily 200 or so, but now it's just too large. The Rush Frequently Asked Questions List (FAQL) is being mailed out as second (special edition) posts of the NMS; the first today, the second should be tomorrow. These will be made available at the anonymous ftp site at Syrinx as the file 'rush/special/FAQL.111991'. In addition, there is a new offering; a list of just the questions in the FAQL. I won't post this as it would be redundant, but I will make it available in the file 'rush/special/FAQL.index'. I won't do it by date; assume that the index is for whatever FAQL there is. Also, since I've seen a dozen or so posts asking about tour schedules for upcoming gigs (and whether they're playing <xxx> city), I thought I'd repost the tour schedule I have, sent in by various readers. This is NOT the final word, as some shows are/will be moved, but it's something. Of course, Eric Johnson is no longer opening for them; Vinnie Moore is currently, and I've heard rumors of Primus opening on the left coast. ------------- cut here ------------- 12/10 Boston, MA 12/12 Albany, NY 12/15 Buffalo, NY 12/16 Toronto, Ontario At the top it also says "Special Guest : Eric Johnson" ------------- In another post on 10/25/91 ------------- Dec. 16, 17 Maple Leaf Gardens, TO January 92 ========== 17 Las Cruces, NM. 18 Pheonix, AZ. 20 San Diego, CA 21 Los Angeles, CA 23 Los Angeles, CA 24 Fresno, CA 26 Reno, NV 27 Sacramento, CA 29 Oakland, CA 30 Oakland, CA February 92 =========== 2 Vancouver, BC, Canada (cool on a Sunday, I'll be at this 1) 4 Seattle, WA 5 Portland, OR 15 San Antonio , TX 16 Dallas, TX 18 Houston, TX 20 Austin, TX 22 Shreveport, LA 23 New Orleans, LA 25 Pensacola, FL 26 Jacksonville, FL 28 Miami , FL 29 St. Petersburg, FL March ===== 2 Orlando, FL 4 ATlanta, GA 5 Columbia, SC 7 Chapel Hill, NC 8 Hampton, VA 10 Richmond, VA 11 Baltimore, MD 13 Nassau Coliseum, Long Island, NY April ===== Europe (don't know exact dates yet!) [ From: John Towse <towse@psychology-a.manchester.ac.uk> ] 10 Sheffield Arena [ From: M.ODonnell@tech.thames.ac.uk ] 12th the NEC (??) 13th the NEC (??) [ From: Paul May <cp_pwm@cms.bristol.ac.uk> ] 17th London Wembley Arena 18th London Wembley Arena [ From: Kelly A. Vinal <70720.626@CompuServe.COM> ] April 21 at the Music Hall in Hannover April 23 at the Sporthalle in Cologne April 24 at the Festhalle in Frankfurt April 26 at the Frankenhalle in Nurnberg April 27 at the Eissporthalle in Berlin April 29 at the Schleyerhalle in Stuttgart May-June ======== Outdoor Arenas (don't know exact dates yet) rumour has it they will do Alpine Valley , in Wisc. again. but don't know the exact date as of now, but I'll keep ya informed PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THIS IS AN ITERNERARY AND CERTAIN SHOWS MAY BE ADDED OR DELETED SO CHECK W/ YOUR LOCAL TICKET PLACES.... I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR TYPOS OR THE CHANGE OF DATES NOR AM I AFFILIATED W/ RUSH !!! :) ------------- cut here ------------- That's all for now. If anyone has a more current/correct tour dates list, please send it to me at the administrative address, and I'll make it available via anonymous ftp. rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Dec 91 20:42:20 CST From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman) Subject: Ayn Rand / Objectionism (?) (sp) Could someone please enlighten me briefly on this philosophy of Ayn Rand's? Other than in the NMS, I have never heard of it. Could someone please e-mail me something brief (whatever you have time for) explaining Objectionism (?). Thanks very much! >.--.--.-.-.-.-.-.--.-.-.-.-.-.-.-----.---.---.--...-.-.---.--.--.-.-.-.-.-. : cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu : "They shout about love, but when push : :.-.-.-.---.-.-...--.-.-.-.-.-: comes to shove, they look for things : : they're afraid of" - Neil Peart, RUSH : >.-.-.--.--.-.-.-.-.--.-.-.-.-.:-.--.-.-.---.-.-.-.--.-.-.-.-.-.--.-.-.--.-: : Mike Silverman : "Cubs win! Cubs win!" - Harry Caray : >.-.-.--.---.--.-.-.-.-.-.-.--.-.-.-.-.-.--.-.-.---.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.: ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Dec 91 22:36 EDT From: "Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug" Subject: RTB on the radio I had followed the discussion of RTB being cut by radio stations with a bit of interest, but naturally I thought "It can't happen here." Well, tonight I was listening to the radio, and you guessed it, RTB comes on. SO I listen closely, and right before the "spoken voice section", the song skips - just like you'd expect it to if they did a bad cut to the end of the track. Well, I was digging through my phonebook looking for the number of the radio station, when suddenly the song skips AGAIN and I hear "Jack, relax..." So I did. Apparently they just had their CD player go nuts on them. Or perhaps some other irate Rush fan was quicker on the dial than I, and threatened the station with bodily harm if they didn't fix it right quick. :) Anyway, it was a false alarm, but I thought it an interesting coincidence in light of the relevant discusison here. Stay vigilant, and don't let radio stations get away with ANYTHING! String ORQ: "Now the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe, and saw . . ." ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Dec 91 23:26:02 EST From: "David S. Schmidt" <dschmidt@sales.stern.nyu.edu> Subject: Is it live or is it Memorex? At the two Rush shows in New York City last weekend, I think I figured out how Alex sings those great "backup vocals." With the help of binoculars, I carefully watched Alex whenever he "sang" a strong background vocal. His vocal parts sounded *exactly* like the studio recording- too close to be his voice simply run through an effects processor. Each time, he apparently triggered a sample by pressing a midi pedal with his foot. (he hit the same pedal each time, the one closest to him when he stood at the mike, so it definately was not a keyboard note that he was playing) At times, the background vocal was Geddy's voice singing a harmony- I think this was sampled too- not a harmonizer. Another thing that I noticed was that Alex held the pedal down for the duration of the sample. At Friday night's show, Alex triggered a background vocal a few beats too early, but he immediately realized the mistake, and released the pedal- the sample cut off as soon as he let go of the pedal. It seems that Alex just lip-syncs the vocal part in time with the sample. It is possible that his mike isn't even turned on, except for the songs where he doesn't use samples. (But in those cases, I'm not even sure that I hear anything he sings.) By the way, there is a guy on stage behind the drums that almost looks like a keyboard player- he sits in front of a mixing board, and 3/4" video tape players. He also probably loads all those samples at the right times. Even if Alex is lip-synching, both shows were fantastic! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Neal A. Dillman <comehome@wam.umd.edu> Date: Mon, 9 Dec 91 23:57:01 EST Subject: Dec 7 show Hi, The Dec. 7th show was great. Geddy's voice was the best I ever heard it (I was also at the Cap Centre show on this tour and several shows on previous tours). He even hit the high stuff in Anthem. And Spirit's vocals sounded even better than the studio stuff (more gusto). In fact, Ged was really into it the whole night. Neil, on the other hand, was not. He played well but erred a few times. Most notably coming out of the guitar solo in Subdivisions Neil played something that just wasn't right (even Ged was Shocked). He fixed it w/in three eightnotes though (around 1.5 seconds). He also shortened his nightly solo somewhat. Strangely enough, he did seem in a good mood though (rare). Also of note the B-man (Bill Banashevitz) was in attendance. (I saw him coming off the train from philly). And yes, it does seem that Bill is trying to look as muck like Ged as possible!! -Neal ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Dec 91 00:16:44 -0500 From: dws2@po.CWRU.Edu (Donald W. Shields) Subject: RTB tour... Does anyone have dates and places of where the rockers from the north will be touring in the new year??? Once just isn't enough..... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: the! -- *********If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice!************ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Dec 91 01:14:49 -0500 From: "Douglas G Schwabe" <cschwabe@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Subject: The Gedster and Lady Day In the 10/91 issue of Canadian Musician Ged lists Billie Holiday as one of his favorite artists that he likes to listen to when he's not recording/ touring etc. Hmmm, I wonder if one of his favorite movies is "Lady Sings The Blues" (w / Diana Ross as Lady Day, Good movie BTW). The Boyz have some interesting influences. Check out Patsy Cline in the HYF credits as well as Pee Wee's Play House (interesting, eh?). Doug "NO ONE IS WORTH 6 MILLION!!!!" Schwabe Thanks for the memories, Bobby Bo Let's Go Pens - Keep the Cup in the 'Burg 1992 Pittsburgh Pirates - THE TIME IS NOW! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Dec 91 08:16:49 EST Subject: The Fountainhead Movie From: borger@ascc01.att.com! > Date: Sat, 7 Dec 91 15:00:47 -0500 > From: "Douglas G Schwabe" <cschwabe@unix.cis.pitt.edu> > Subject: Gary Cooper > > [...] > Question: Has anyone seen "The Fountainhead"? Is it available on video? > [...] I've not personally seen "The Fountainhead" film, but it is certainly out there. It stars Gary Cooper, too, if memory serves. I appreciate the book very much, but shied away from a chance to see the movie because I thought it would be a let-down. I may be wrong, since I read that Ayn Rand was pleased with the production of the movie... Dana ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Dec 91 10:31:44 -0500 From: Have YOU seen the fnords? <fnord@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca> Subject: Xanadu, CoS cover, Subdivisions locale William Hartmann -- you must only have the *Exit...Stage Left* version of Strangiato, as that's the one with "words". Furthermore, I presume you don't have full liner notes, as my CD contains the following words o' wisdom regarding the "lyrics" to Strangiato: >We also should include a (loose) translation for the new lyrics to >the *Danforth and Pape* secion of *La Villa Strangiato* >"Patty-cake, patty-cake, > Mother's going to buy you shoes, > Father's going to buy you socks, > Baby's going to have red cheeks." >Enough said. However, I have NO idea if this is indeed what Geddy utters, nor what language he is uttering in. Sounds like complete gibberish to my humble ears. (Gee, I sure hope eight million other people don't post the exact same thing.) Chris Chamberlin (re: "Zanadu" and CoS covers) -- well, most record companies aren't known for putting the most amount of care into cassette reissues. You may have thought CD reissues were oftentimes a little cheezy... well, let's just say I'm *really* glad I went straight from LP's to CD's. Hey, it's better than the situation with *Led Zeppelin II* and IV, where they actually changed the order of some of the songs to make the tape sides more equal in length. (On *II*, they SPLIT up `Heartbreaker' and `Livin Lovin Maid'!!! Sacrilege!") Anyways, rest assured that Xanadu IS the correct spelling. As for CoS covers -- I know someone who used to work for Mercury as a distributor in Canada, and she handles CoS (and maybe some other Rush albums) waaaaay back when. Apparently the gray/blue cover is an early pressing; I have no idea how rare they are. I'd hang on to it if I were you, but then I'm a musical packrat. Once again about Subdivisions -- everything that *I* recognised in that video was from Toronto, although I'm certainly not familiar with every high school hall, shopping mall, and basement bar in the city. Don't see any reason for them to go *elsewhere* though, as everyone knows Toronto is by far the coolest city on the face of the earth. ;-) (Watch me get kicked out of Montreal for saying that!) Hmmm, enough topics for one post? Thought so. Greg Ward (fnord@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Dec 91 11:12:29 EST From: Dan Newcombe <URDN%MARISTC.BITNET@YALEVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> Subject: Re: Genesis Mailing List >Date: Sun, 8 Dec 91 01:56:32 -0500 >From: "Allan Hirt" <styx@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> >Subject: Genesis Mailing List > >I'm a little peeved at the GML. The narrow minded members over there >go batty if someone mentions our boyz (especially if someone mentions >that they can run musical circles around Genesis). Let's face it, >Phil is no Neil. I was only expressing my opinion (because they trash >Rush on a regular basis), and they went nuts! (JUST MY $.02) > >Allan > >P.S. It's their loss. Ah...But Geddy is no Tony Banks either. It's plain and simple. Everyone has their favourite group and will die to say they are the best, no matter what anyone says. -Dan [ And Tony is no Rick Wakeman, and Rick is no ... :-) :rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Playing A Lone Hand ... Date: Tue, 10 Dec 91 11:45:49 -0500 From: dws@soc3.acpub.duke.edu Hello readers, If there's one song that I really like the lyrics to, it has got to be _Fly_By_Night_. So, when I heard there was some sort of prologue to this song, I immediately became interested in learning it. My best guess is that this prologue is some sort of intro to the song like in _Cygnus_X-1_ or _The_Necromancer_, though I can't imagine it would be done with same sort of funky voice as the two songs just mentioned. Well, if anyone knows anything, I'd be really glad to hear from you. My address is: dws@hercules.acpub.duke.edu Bye. dws [ How's this for instant gratification? I've lost the name of the original poster (if you're out there, drop me a line!). For now, I'll post the "lost" lyrics for "Fly by Night". These came from a copy written in Neils handwriting while in Lansing, Michigan and Toronto Canada. They were shortened for marketing reasons when the final track was cut in the studio. I believe they were also published in one of the many Rush biographies. The first time Geddy performed the song live, he screwed up the lyrics but he stuck closely to the album version. As far as I know, he has never sang the first part live. I think we should all encourage him to do it live someday!! *** Fly By Night by Neil Peart *** Airport scurry flurry faces Parade of passers by People going many places With a smile or just a sigh Waiting waiting pass the time Another cigarette Get in line - gate thirty-nine The time is not here yet Why try? I know why ( Rest of FBN as normal ) This file is also available at the ftp site as: "rush/lyrics/02.fbn.longver" :rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Band In North Carolina Date: Tue, 10 Dec 91 12:16:33 -0500 From: dws@soc3.acpub.duke.edu To everyone: A while ago, someone from N.C. State wrote in about a local band of college students who play Rush tunes very well. If that person, or anyone else who knows about this band, would please send me the name of this group and any information about when and where they plan on playing, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks. dws@hercules.acpub.duke.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Dec 91 12:33:24 -0500 From: Jonathan Russe Stehn <stehn@brahms.udel.edu> Subject: 12/6/91 New York City-- SPOILER!!!! I spent a ton of money, got screwed by Greyhound, couldn't find Port Authority, and sat on the side of the stage, three sections up... AND I WOULD DO IT AGAIN A HUNDRED TIMES to see what I saw Friday night. The Boyz were INCREDIBLE. Neil's drum solo was new and improved-- I don't normally care for drum solos but this one was absolutely awesome. Alex played great-- he added something to Dreamline and played his solo nearly perfectly in Ghost of A Chance (Which I was really happy that they played). Geddy was very emotional, running around the stage in some songs and he sang The Pass absolutely beautifully. Only a few problems-- He was a bit early in Show Don't Tell, but it didn't matter much. Alex's guitar was hard to hear in some songs because it was drowned out by the bass-- in Bravado, for example, one of my favorite songs, the bass was a little too loud. It was still good though. For those who say Closer to the Heart should retire-- NO WAY. It was as usual awesome, and the flames were a beautiful sight in the Garden. I liked the shortened Subdivisions--it gave it a new flair. And Xanadu-- whoooooo boy!! What a great performance. As for Vinnie Moore (snicker): The only time I clapped was when he left. "Check this out New York City" should usually be followed by something good, but all six/seven of his songs sounded like the first one, which wasn't particularly good. Played a lot of scales... If you have the chance to see the RTB tour-- DON'T MISS IT FOR ANYTHING!! I know; I went through hell to get there (from Wilmington) and through hell to get back, and I would do it all over again. To everyone who hasn't gone yet-- HAVE A BLAST! The Letter "B" ************************************************ ** "Better the pride that resides ** ** In a citizen of the world ** ** Than the pride that divides ** ** When a colorful rag is unfurled..." ** ** (Peart- Territories) ** ** ** ** "Greyhound sucks." (The Letter B) ** ** ** ** The Letter B <stehn@brahms.udel.edu> ** ************************************************ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: laplant@ads.com (Dave "Louie" LaPlant) Subject: RUSH in Oakland, CA Date: Tue, 10 Dec 91 9:50:15 PST Tickets go on sale Sunday December 15th at 10am for the Wed. Jan 29th show at the Oakland Coliseum. Tickets are $22.50 for reserved seating. Tickets can be purchased at any BASS/TM outlet, by phone at (415) 762-2277 or (408) 998-2277, or the Oakland Coliseum. The opening act is Primus. There is no information available at this time about a second RUSH show at the Coliseum. I will continue to call the coliseum and pass on any information I have about a second show if/when it becomes available. Louie laplant@ads.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Dec 91 12:42:13 EST From: dmz@sunsrvr2.cci.com (Dave Zegas) Subject: Neil's Rockline Taped And Available There seems to be a bunch of people who either missed Neil's Rockline interview and/or just want it on tape. I emailed to a few of you directly but since there's so many more, I'll just open my own floodgates. I taped Rockline and editted out the commercials and music, thus the actual interview is just under 45 minutes. If you want a copy, send me a tape and return postage (either a prepaid mailer or cash). Email to me and I'll send you my address. I've got the last two weeks of December off, thus if you get me a tape by then I'll be able to copy and send in about a day. === / Dave Zegas dmz@cci.com / Computer Consoles, Inc. / Rochester, NY === ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Las Cruces and Pheonix tix Date: Tue, 10 Dec 91 8:52:21 MST From: Guy Kendall <gkendall@ncr-mpd.ftcollins.NCR.COM> Have you ever made one of those mistakes, so fatal, so terrible, that you are just not sure if life can continue as we know it? Well, I made one, I thought Las Cruces tickets went on sale on Monday the 9th, but to my dismay they went on sale on Sat. the 7th, it was Metallica tickets that went on sale on Monday! Well, luckily I decided to check the date Sat. afternoon so I still got tickets, they are just pretty bad. Well, now that I have got you all thinking "My god man, this is Rush, how could anyone make such a serious mistake?" I want to get on to the real purpose of this message. The Las Cruces concert has been moved from Friday January 17 (as reported in TNMS) to Saturday January 18 so obviously the concert schedule has been changed. Since the 18th was supposed to be the Pheonix date, I suggest that you Pheonix people do some serious calling to try and find out what happened. Is anyone planning a NMS party/get together in Las Cruces? We will be making a major road trip, and don't have any idea what there is to do in Las Cruces. We were thinking about driving down to Juarez, Mexico to mess around for a while. Also, we might have 2 open seats in my car going from Colorado. When will Rush be announcing their schedule to play out door arenas this summer? Sure hope they hit Denver; Red Rocks would be great. Then maybe I can get some good seats. -- Guy W. Kendall - Applications Engineer Guy.Kendall@ColoSpgs.NCR.COM NCR Microelectronic Products Division Voice: 719-596-5795 x465 1635 Aeroplaza Drive | Do Integrated Circuits | Fax: 719-570-6045 Colorado Springs, CO 80916 | work in South Africa?? | BBS: 719-596-1649 ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Dec 91 13:47:32 EST From: "DB/fw" <KNFU%MARISTB.BITNET@YALEVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> Subject: peter collins yes...peter collins has produced both rush and queensryche Dana/fw ---------------------------------------------------------- From: bkekesi@uceng.UC.EDU (Jealous Knight) Subject: RUSH in Richmond, VA Date: Tue, 10 Dec 91 14:18:30 EST Hi, I'm new to this group, and not sure if someone has posted this already; but I heard that RUSH will be in Richmond, VA sometime in March. Does anyone out there know what the date is for that show. And also, do you know if they will be stopping in Hampton or Norfolk, VA? -and when. I've already seen them once on this tour (RTB), but I make a habit to see them at least twice every tour. THANX, Alex ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | "We don't feed the people, | | but we feed the machines." | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------
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