The National Midnight Star #395

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 12/06/91 - The National Midnight Star #395
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Neil's Rockline appearance How to Explain Neil's Last Name Guess who else forgot that Rockline was on?? Tapes of the Rockline interview P/G credits background music ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Editor, The National Midnight Star <rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu> Subject: Adminisitrivia There are two new bass tab files at the ftp site, for "Dreamline" and "Closer To The Heart". Enjoy. There was no NMS for Thursday, 12/5. There will be two today to make up for that. rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- From: soliz@ecn.purdue.edu (Joshua J Soliz) Subject: Neils name Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 15:06:29 EST I didnt hear rockline and I read in the last issue that they corrected his name? What the hell is it pronounced like?? Pert or Peart(near)?? Flame me if you will but I need an answer! -- __ ( ) _ _ |_ _ _ _ \/ |_| _\ | | |_|_/ \ / ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 13:09:03 PST From: rush@xanadu.llnl.gov (Alan Edwards) Subject: My nervous Rockline experience I'm glad to hear that at least one of us NMS'ers got to ask Neil a question. (Good question Amy!). I just wanted to share my (nervous) experience. I started calling at 6:00pm PST by just continuing to use my redial button (no fancy electronics necessary) and got a ring at about 8:15. (The show starts at 8:30 on the West coast.) A man with an (I guess British) accent answered within a few minutes and asked me what questions I had for Neil Peart (of course he pronounced it wrong--it rhymes with ear). I stated the questions I had written down, and he said that one of them was taken, and proceeded to give me a question that he thought I should use--which was vaguely related to the one I was going to ask, but not really. I proceeded to kiss up by saying "yeah, that's a good question" while he was saying "well, it's really your idea, only a little different". My question was basically, "would you guys ever consider expanding the show beyond 2 hours, and possibly drop the opening act". The man wanted me to ask "did you guys feel constrained by the time limitations of vinyl and would albums like 2112 and Hemispheres have been longer, had CD been available." Well they were both related to time constraints...yeah, right. I didn't really care what question I asked, as long as I got to talk to Neil. I was also going to ask Neil if he had any plans to publish any other forms of writing. So, he said to keep listening to the phone, but there was no guarantee that I would get on. "It's up to the producer.", he said, "I think he'll like your question." So I started my tape recorder and got myself some water--my mouth was getting dry from the thought that I might actually get to speak with Neil Peart. I waited. Right before the show, someone came on the phone and asked "What's your question again?" Then they played the show over the phone. I timed a 4 second delay before it hit the airwaves of our local radio station. I don't know if that is to catch swearing, or just a satellite delay--probably the latter. Every time I heard BC go to the phones for questions, I got psyched up. I didn't know if they were going to give me warning or not. I rehearsed my questions and changed them a little (didn't want to sound like a fool in front of a man who writes for a living). I considered praising Neil before asking my questions, but quickly dropped that idea after hearing a guy drool all over himself about how cool it was to talk to Neil, and how great he was, etc. That really pissed me off--that he wasted so much of our (the callers') precious time. Toward the end of the show, I finally heard the question that was supposedly too much like my original question--something like "how do you guys pick the songs to fit 2 hours". (Didn't someone ask Geddy and Alex that question last time?) Then the show ended. My heart dropped. I waited on the line to see if there was any kind of "thanks for calling" or "we'll send you a T-shirt" >...nothing but silence. I hung up. "Oh, well...maybe next time." In retrospect, I think I was just too far at the end of the line of calls--I got through at only 15 minutes before the show. Then again, maybe the producer just didn't like my questions. Whatever. I was glad to know that they screen the questions, but perturbed that they would put a question into my mouth. But, I guess that's better than saying "sorry...that question's taken...bye (click)". Good luck to all next time, -Alan .------------------------------------. "To seek the sacred river Alph | Alan Edwards: rush@xanadu.llnl.gov | To walk the caves of ice | or: alan-edwards@llnl.gov | To break my fast on honeydew `------------------------------------' And drink the milk of Paradise...." ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 16:36:47 -0500 From: eric@ovl.osc.edu Subject: Roll the risks Just thought this interesting. I was reading an assignment for the completion of a take-home exam in Communication at OSU, when I ran into this. Seems that Hans Magnus Enzensberger, a British theorist had some interesting ideas about taking chances. Here's a quote from the article..... Enzensberger, concerned over what he called "the industrialization of the mind" and the debilitating impact of products of cultural industries on human consciousness, still held out a hopeful prospect. Despite the awful effect of applying the techniques of industrialization to the activity of the mind, there remained, according to Enzensberger, one human quality that the dominant system could not entirely subdue. At the same time, it could not do without it. This is the creativity of individuals, the same creativity that provided the compelling products of the cultural industries. Enzensberger believed that this creative talent, however much it was harnessed fot systemic ends, remained a source of potential resistance and change. Fully aware of the risk of participating, Enzensberger still concluded that there was no way for intellectuals and creative individuals to opt out of the system. Though the consciousness industry-an inclusive term for many ways in which consciousness is influenced by the products of the cultural industries- preempted everything it came in contact with, he recommended that the creative ones "enter the game....take and calculate the risks." Thought this was extremely related. Thanks Eric. ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: RTB without the rap! From: Isaac <isaac.salzman@Eng.Sun.COM> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 91 16:08:26 PST >bgrave@ub.d.umn.edu (Brian Grave) writes: >This morning I was surprised and overjoyed to hear RTB come rolling out my >speakers from the radio. They almost never play Rush in the frozen northland >of Duluth, MN. Anyway, as I sat enjoying the music I noticed the strangest >thing... they cut out the rap section of the song... completely! They just >skipped to the end of the song. > >Has anyone ever heard of this happening? yes - this happenned about 3 weeks ago on KOME (San Jose, CA). i immediately called the station and got the DJ on the line. he said "sorry, i just play what i'm told". he gave me the phone number of the program office, so i called them. i was forwared a few times 'till i got the program director. we spoke for about 15 min's or so. he explained that, when the album first came out, and they played RTB, they had phone calls complaining about the rap section!!!! the record company wanted them to give the song airplay, so they decided to try an edited version. i told him i was a major Rush fan, as are many of my friends, and that we all think the rap section is great -- and an integral part of the song, etc. he said "i just play what you all want to hear, so if you don't want to hear the edited version of RTB, we won't play it.". the next time - and every other time i've heard RTB on KOME (and it's been getting lots of airplay lately), it's been the un-edited version! >I'm tempted to call them up and ask them why the hell they did it. you should *definitely* call them and complain. it is very likely that it WILL make a difference!!! -- * Isaac J. Salzman, Sun Microsystems Inc. ---- * Multi Media Platforms -- Audio Tools & Integration /o o/ / * 2550 Garcia Ave., Mt. View, CA 94043-1100, MS: MTV23-41 | v | | * AT&T : +1 415-336-4338 _| |_/ * Internet : isaac.salzman@Eng.Sun.COM / | | * ``So get out there and Rock and Roll the Bones'' | | | ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik <habbinga@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Rockline tape and music on GUP video Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 17:47:25 MST I have a tape of Rockline, for all those who would like a copy. I almost definitely cannot be talked into transcribing it, but would be more than happy to make tapes of it. About the GUP video, if my memory serves, the music under the credits is "Afterimage". It is the part before the guitar solo, where a sax like sound is playing a melody. I believe they play this part twice under the credits. Erik ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 16:53:16 PST From: Jeff Gray <jgray@balboa.eng.uci.edu> Subject: Ticket prices on the RTB tour Out here in La-La land, Rush is playing two shows, as they have since the Signals tour and maybe before, at the LA (oops, I mean Great Western) Forum. Tickets went on sale for the first show about two weeks ago, and for the first time in my life that I've ever seen this, floor and loge seats were selling for $39 (!) each, but colonnade seats were $26. Most people, including myself, thought they'd wait for a second show to go on sale after the $39 tix were gone, but a second show was never announced. The following Saturday it was, but the first people in line ended up with colonnade seats behind the stage, as if TicketBastard wasn't carrying the good seats at all. Did this happen anywhere else in the country, with two prices for tickets? Anyone in LA get the better seats for the second show? -- Jeff Gray Dept of ECE, University of California, Irvine jgray@balboa.eng.uci.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1991 19:32:39 -0600 From: weaver@crdecf.csc.ti.com (Tyler Weaver) Subject: Rockline tapes I have a fair-quality tape of the 12/2/91 Rockline interview with Neil. If you want a copy, email and we'll work out a deal. It would be nice to have it transcribed for the NMS, but that would be a major project, as Neil tended to be quite talkative. There were several FAQ answers in there; ie. 'brought to you by the letter __', 'Gangster of Boats', mystery rapper, 'click tracks', etc. I'm sure someone will submit the good ones to the keeper of the FAQL. --Tyler weaver@splvx1.csc.ti.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 18:03:48 PST From: degennar%bmsr3.usc.edu@usc.edu (Raymond Degennaro) Subject: dancing mushrooms you know you listen to an album too much when you're watching "The Mother of all Music Videos.", i.e. Fantasia and durin the scene with the mushrooms dancing to Tychovski's "The Nutcracker Suite" (the 'shrooms are moving in a circle, and as they comme to the front, they get taller and thinner), all you can thing of is: "It's a parralax, you dig? You move around--small gets big, it's a rig." pretty sad, huh? Ray (DJ) DeGennaro II degennar@bmsrs.usc.edu P.S. If you had any reservations about getting Fantasia on tape, you know, being worried that it doesn't make the transition well, there's only one section that i was aware that i was missing something. in short, they did an incredible job. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 20:56:41 EST From: martino@wpi.WPI.EDU (Robert Paul Martino Jr) Subject: Does Rush have any unreleased material? I've noticed groups like Jethro Tull and Yes have come out with box sets with unreleased songs from past years... are there any such unreleased Rush songs? Rob Martino martino@wpi.wpi.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 15:53:40 EST From: sjuphil!jr040923@uu.psi.com (Joseph Roberts) Subject: Philly show 12/3 - SPOILER!!!! SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yo People, Well, I just saw the Boyz from the 4th row last night........... what can I say? GODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Boyz were incredible, and "Bravado" & "Superconductor" sounded even better than they did in the 1st Philly show. Geddy actually noticed me during "Freewill/Distant Early Warning" - needless to say, I enjoyed my evening! I won't bore you w/ long diatribes about the night. All I'll say is - DO NOT MISS THIS TOUR IF YOU HAVE THE CHANCE TO GO!!!!! Later............................................................... The Fuzzy Navel p.s. - Sam Wood of the Philly Inquirer SUCKS! (If you're from Philly you'll know what I'm talking about) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1991 21:39:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Philip M. Simon" <ps3q+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Neil's Rockline appearance I would agree that Neil was rather humble, and handled himself well on Rockline. He did a great job deflecting the many (and completely justifiable) comparisons to God. I actually thought he was quite funny, given the serious nature of the questions posed to him. Phil Simon (ps3q+andrew.cmu.edu) "What's another word for thesaurus?" Steven Wright ---------------------------------------------------------- From: amy@arla.austin.mcd.mot.com (Amy Moseley Rupp) Subject: How to Explain Neil's Last Name Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 21:14:42 CST Just say, "It's Peart. As in CAN YOU HEAR?" This usually leaves a lasting impression. -- Amy J. Moseley Rupp Hey twentysomethings! Motorola Computer Group Listen to Austin's 107.7 FM! (512) 329-7117 :) It's the music we're growing up amy@austin.mcd.mot.com or with, not a yuppie reminiscent uunet!cs.utexas.edu!oakhill!arla!amy repetitive station. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: telxon!teleng!dank@uunet.UU.NET (Dan Kelley) Subject: Guess who else forgot that Rockline was on?? Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 21:44:45 EST Yes, that's right... I too forgot that Rockline was on last Monday and when I started reading the last couple of articles, I got pissed cause I forgot it was on. I kept telling myself to not forget about it but I did anyway (damn!) That's what I get for not writing it down I guess. Will any kind soul that happened to tape it send it to me? I'll pay for the postage of course. Please email. Dan... -- Dan Kelley () ===== ===== = = = //// = = () = === = = ////// == = >..!uunet!telxon!dank () = ===== ===== = ////// = == Corp. dank%telxon@uunet.uu.net () //// Akron, OH ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Tapes of the Rockline interview Date: Wed, 04 Dec 91 22:44:36 -0500 From: mjkobb@media-lab.media.mit.edu Greetings, Well, there seem to be at least a handful of us who managed to miss the Rockline interview somehow. Did anybody tape it? Perhaps we should arrange a method for copying and distribution? I can make copies, but I'm afraid they'll be stuck with whatever kind of noise reduction the original has, as one of my decks only has dbx, so I'd have to leave NR off... Cheers, --Mike ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Dec 91 01:42 EDT From: DR_STRAD@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu Subject: P/G credits background music In response to the inquiry about the music played between the concert portion of the Grace Under Pressure video and the Big Money video, the song is "Afterimage" from Grace Under Pressure. It is the second song on the CD, in case you're curious. As long as I'm online, I'd like to express my great pleasure with the concert I attended tonight at the Capital Centre in D.C. I was not so impressed with the light show, and some things about the show in general were just too predictable, but the boyz played like a well-oiled machine - not stiff or dead at all. All in all, it was a good, solid show. Nothing out of this world, but a good show nonetheless. Also, when Geddy introduced Neil's solo, it sounded to me as if he pronounced Neil's last name "Peert," for whatever that's worth - it's my $.02! --Jim Lavelle Hopkins Biomedical Eng'ring. I feel the way you would - I feel your presence - I remember. I feel the way you would. This just can't be understood . . . --Rush "Afterimage" ----------------------------------------------------------
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