The National Midnight Star #344

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 09/30/91 - The National Midnight Star #344 ** Part 1 of 2 **
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 344 Monday, 30 September 1991 Today's Topics: Administrivia Getting "Ghost of a Chance" played... Ghost of a Whisper `beeresy` and pop Re: Dogs? cynicism vs. skepticism Ghost Of A Chance/Ask Me To Dance Barking on Dreamline Re: 09/19/91 - The National Midnight Star #343 Connecting No I'm Not Wierd Al Either (none) Engineering mystery solved? Alleged dogs in "Dreamline" Diane dogs and welding How much sound can you fit on one side of vinyl? Tour Dates for Rush ANSWERED QUESTIONS! Re: 09/18/91 - The National Midnight Star #342 ** Special Edition ** Neil Peart's Book Dog's Barking, I don't think so! RTB review article ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Editor, The National Midnight Star <rush-mgr> Subject: Administrivia Hi all, Yes, the NMS is back on the air after a somewhat extended hiatus. It was a relaxing week for me, and I'm back, refreshed and ready to deal with the hassles of life. I think. First of all, since I got so many posts over the last week (over 50), I decided to release today's NMS in two parts, issues 344 and 345. If you think you got duplicates, make sure you check the issue number! On the other hand, I *still* have over 100 items at the administrative address, so I'm still plowing through them! Secondly, heads up, there are TOUR DATES in these two issues, the best list submitted by our resident "lyricist", Supria. The tour schedule has been released, and you heard it here, folks! I wonder if Geddy will move a couple of dates if Toronto goes all the way?? Lastly, for those of you who sent mail asking where the NMS was for the last week, *shame on you* for not reading the administrivia from issue 343! :-) rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- From: hellfire@catt.ncsu.edu (Brian Young) Subject: Getting "Ghost of a Chance" played... Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 16:58:29 EDT I just started receiving the National Midnight Star yesterday, and I don't know if this is a good idea or not, but I read #311 (Peart's announcement of _Roll the Bones_) and I got an idea. (Scary!) He said he believed "Ghost of a Chance" would be a hit, but realized now it wouldn't be, saying they must be too wierd. (Rush, wierd? Never!) Anyway, I believe that if we can get the radios to play that song in particular, and effectively "force" people to hear it and (eventually) like it, the song may become popular and maybe pick up some more devotees for the boyz. The problem with much Rush material is you have to hear it over and over a few times to REALLY crave it. I've often called the local stations and asked them to play Rush, but I'd usually say "Play anything", or "Play something from album x". The former gets you Closer to the Heart/Tom Sawyer/Limelight/Spirit of Radio usually. I think the problem is I'm not concentrating constantly on one particular song. So, here's the pitch: Please, everyone, call up your station occasionally and request "Ghost of a Chance". Don't bug them constantly. Get a few of your friend who truly like Rush to do it too. Just once a day or so will do, just let your local station know there is demand for the song. Who knows, maybe we'll convert some loyal listeners of that station who hear it day after day. There are 900 of us here, so that's a start. What do you guys think? ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 12:52:46 EDT From: srl@gli.com (Shawn Lee x4111) Subject: Ghost of a Whisper At the very end of "Ghost of a Chance", the split second before it fades out and you can't hear anything at all, you can hear the words "Ghost of a Chance" being whispered. (Turning the volume up helps, but don't blow you r ears out when 'Neurotica' comes on). Is that Geddy or Rupert? As for the barking dogs in 'Dreamline': sounds like a simple MIDI sound being triggered by a keyboard. The barks I'm talking about come right after "...far away from her hometown." Any agreement? ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1991 19:34:57 EDT From: STU_NESHUE@VAX2.ACS.JMU.EDU Subject: `beeresy` and pop First, I'd like to ask whomever wrote `beeresy` to mail me the lyrics, please- I deleted that particular NMS. Secondly, I'd like to give a response to the person(Sorry, can't remember who and don't have the exact quote-nuked that NMS too)who made the remark that, in effect, said that it was more difficult to create a well-constructed pop song than an art rock tune w/ "science fiction lyrics." Art rock in itself is based on complex musical composition that utilizes all of the various instruments(including the voice) to create an `orchestra' that builds up a musical theme(s) which can put images in our mind as clear as a brilliant sculpture. (Whew!) The difficulty of producing this in a coherent and musically beautiful form is monumentous. For example, it took Yes three months to even conceptualize Tales From Topographic Oceans, an epic composition based on Phastric(sp?) scriptures that consisted of four parts, each about twenty minutes in length. And the length was there because that's how long it took to encompass all the musical motifs, not just so they could say 'Hey, we got tunes that last twenty whole minutes!' I'm not here to slam pop music, I'm just pointing out the sheer illogic of comparing the difficulties of these two styles. Thanx for 'da time! Nate - JMU "You may be a king or a street sweeper, but sooner or later, you dance with the Reaper." ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Dogs? Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 19:57:23 -0400 From: mjkobb@media-lab.media.mit.edu Greetings, I dunno, but I always thought that this sound everyone keeps describing as a dog barking was something like a (large) wood block with a serious reverb. Sounds a bit like a dog, I guess, if you've got a mid-sized dog, but I sorta doubt it. Unless, of course, it's the Dalmatian from Signals. :-) --Mike ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: cynicism vs. skepticism Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 16:55:54 -0700 From: dougo@soda.berkeley.edu > I, for one, never saw ``Show Don't Tell'' as a song about cynicism. > I've always seen it as a song about the most dependable way of getting > to the truth -- i.e. demanding evidence. It seems to me a cynic wouldn't > ask for evidence, he or she would _assume_ that they were being lied to. I think the author of the article maybe meant "skepticism", not "cynicism"... It's funny, I always think of my freshman English teacher who always told us to "show don't tell" when we were describing something, i.e. relate it in a descriptive way, rather than just "telling". This is something I think Neil is great at, so the title just seemed to fit naturally. -- DougO ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 20:18:04 EDT From: Ian Nathan <EU894C@gwuvm.gwu.edu> Subject: Ghost Of A Chance/Ask Me To Dance Please forgive me ahead of time for what you are about to read (or maybe not). I just couldn't resist... Ask Me To Dance Like a million little dance clubs all the choices we made all the bouncers we got past all the songs that they played So many different directions Our separate paths might have turned With all the feet we've stepped on every person we've burned Somehow we find each other through all that masquerade somehow we find each other somehow we have stayed In the same damn place I don't believe in DENSITY or the mystery of blind date I don't believe in forever or the club as a mystical place I don't believe in the lights or the sound or the DJ watching from above But I believe if you Ask Me To Dance We can push and then shove and make it last... - - - - - - - - - - maybe it's not that bad. makes no sense, but any suggestions/ constructive criticism/flames to eu894c@gwuvm.gwu.edu, s'il vous plait. Ian Nathan The George Washington University Washington, D.C. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 20:51 EDT From: "Doug Morack (412)457-1292" <DCM115@PSUVM.PSU.EDU> Subject: Barking on Dreamline I listened to the "barks" on Dreamline quite a few times. I'm convinced that the so called "barks" are just intentional "pulses" created by Geddy's keyboard. It sounds nothing like a dog barking. Just my $.02. -Doug ******************************************************************************* * ____ ___ * Lonely things like nights, I find * * | \ | | / \ | | * End finer with a friend. * * |___/ | | \___ |____| * "Anagram (For Mongo)" - Rush _Presto_ * * | \ | | \ | | * Gonna kick some gluteus max. * * | \ \__/ \___/ | | * "Roll the Bones" - Rush _Roll the Bones_ * ******************************************************************************* * BITNET - DCM115@PSUVM * Let's go Pens!!!! * * INTERNET - DCM115@PSUVM.PSU.EDU * 1990-91 Stanley Cup Champions!!!! * ******************************************************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 15:06:10 HST From: deane@galileo.IFA.Hawaii.Edu (Rebel Without A Clue) Subject: Re: 09/19/91 - The National Midnight Star #343 Aloha, all. Sorry if I'm not as bubbly as puanani, but it's been a long day. (just kidding, 'nani!) Anyway, I heard the dogs on Dreamline right off, and thought it was a neat device. While I truly hate line-by-line dissections of songs, especially ones I like, the dogs kind of (dare I say the "s" word?) symbolize "home" or "hometown," which she was trying to get away from. I firmly believe they're not making any deep statement with the presence of the dogs, but just had a funny notion while recording it, and I for one think it shows the band's cool sense of humour. I will refrain from a long review of RTB, though I have to say that I waited about 2 weeks before buying it, due to business at work. In the future, I'm going to refrain from reading any options until I listen once, since I noticed my impressions have been slightly clouded by what others were saying long before I could even hear it on the radio (Puanani was right on when she said Hawaii Radio bites the humu). It's my own fault, of course; I should have just put off reading TNMS until I bought the album, but that would have meant a *huge* mailbox sitting around in my account. The album will grow on me, though my favorite is still p/g. Nothing compares with the mood/tempo/simplicity of afterimage, red sector A, etc. Shaka, Jim ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Connecting From: easy@darkside.com (Phil D. Croix) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 19:42:38 PDT Sorry, let me clarify my feelings: I meant I don't know if I like Rush being connected to Paula Abdul *MUSICALLY*. But YES! GOD YES, how I would like to be connected to her.....In some way. Matt, feelin' kinda horny. ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: No I'm Not Wierd Al Either From: vinnie@darkside.com (Vindicator) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 23:02:33 PDT Well here is the original version of THE BIG WHEEL. But needless to say, the boys did not like my choice of lyrics. Guess they don't like gameshows! Remember, these lyrics do fit the music, you may have to try a few times, but I guarentee they fit. Without further ado! --- THE BIG WHEEL OF FORTUNE Music by Lee and Lifeson Lyrics by Dan Flanegan They say it's only a game - not that I would change my mind On T.V. - ya see it's not a waste of time And if I win - i'll be rich, and it's no crime The way that big wheel spins Well I arrived in LA, Pat was there to shake my hand Thought I'd see, if I could be Vanna's man Taking no chances, I wait with rose in hand Her rejection was bad! BUYING A VOWEL Don't want to wait to solve it GET A FREE SPIN Or some insight that will help me win PLAYING WITH DORKS I can't believe they picked these contestants LOOK AT THAT CAR The way that big wheel spins Well I had only a few, them darn spaces to fill My mind goes blank, I think I'm getting ill So I thought I could solve it, but those chances are all in the wheel Well I still had a chance, spin without a second glance Going for broke, time for a final chance Way beyond hope, I wanna win that trip to France It's such a circumstance Wheel spins round, landing on a thousand bucks Keeping my assets, I'll have a better chance When the final guessing begins Wheel slows down, landing on the bankrupt spot Game redirected, wheel stops unexpected Sometimes the fat lady wins The way that damn wheel spins! --- Well, I hope you all had a good laugh with that one also. I would be nice to put these all together in one collection. I think I am going to work on another one. If anyone has any good subjects for the other songs, please let me know, especially if you are not planning to write one yourself. DREAMLINE #1 Billboard Rock Tracks ROLL THE BONES #3 Billboard Album Chart 'get out there and rock!' Dan- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 91 09:20:05 EDT From: aboyko@vtssi.vt.edu (Andrew Boyko) Subject: Engineering mystery solved? Last NMS, Greg Jaeger noticed: >And there is a puzzler: >>"So with _Presto_, the only way we could keep the running order the way >>we wanted was to put more material on side one than on side two. >>This means the sound level on the first side is lower that on the second." > >Could one of our resident engineers please explain this one? > >I have trouble seeing how the amount of material on the sides >of a recording could affect their relative sound level. It >almost sounds like, gee, each side can only have so much _sound_ >and we've got to distribute amongst _all these songs_! WHA?! I'm not an engineer yet (give me a few years) but I think I know the answer. It only applies to records (if my hypothesis is correct.) Seems to me that when more music is packed on a side of a record, the grooves have to be closer together. The volume level of the recorded sound is translated by the record needle from how wide the grooves are (not literally how wide they are, but the amplitude of the wave.) So when they're closer, the amplitude has to be less because otherwise the grooves would run into each other. I'm assuming side one of Presto was 30 min. or so, which is an awful lot for a record. I think the optimum length for a record side is something like 17 minutes, for best sound quality. This is all guessing, but it sounds plausible to me. So, yes, basically, each side really _CAN_ only have so much sound, and it does have to be distributed amongst all the songs. I think. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Boyko | say in a really silly nasal voice : "I am memory aboyko@vtssi.vt.edu | and awareness / but I have no shape or form..." ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1991 09:41 MST From: Roo-Dog Rip <D_DURRETT%KAOS@VAXF.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Alleged dogs in "Dreamline" I don't know what they are, but the background sounds in "Dreamline" that some of us are hearing sound quite un-dog-like to me. They sound more like a sound that was laid down backwards(though I can't guess what it might be). Someone asked about recording levels on vinyl records and how that could be affected by the length of an album side. It's really quite simple. The amplitude(size) of the sqiggles of the groove determines the level of sound produced by the needle, and the way you control what sound level you hear is the volume knob. If the volume level from the needle is lower, you have to compensate. Unfortunately this causes another problem. There is an inherent level of noise associated with dragging a needle along the vinyl. But this noise is constant for a given turntable/record combination and if you lower the amplitude of the squiggles of the groove you increase the level of noise you hear at a given volume setting on your stereo, so packing songs in on a record is a bad idea if you care about sound quality, which is why people invented CDs, but then you have only a certain amount of information you can store, which for convenience corresponds to the length of a CD, hence the missing songs on ESL and ATWAS. Roo-Dog Rip ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ \Roo-Dog Rip is: <> "O! What a rogue and peasant slave am I!"/ \Derrell Durrett <> --- _Hamlet_ II. ii, 584 / \D_DURRETT@COLOPHYS.BITNET <> / \D_DURRETT%KAOS@VAXF.COLORADO.EDU <> High Energy Physics: The New Religion! / \Voice:(303)492-4821 <> Get Some Today! / \Fax:(303)492-5119|Msg:492-1228 <> / \-----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ \ High Energy Physics Group | University of Colorado | Boulder, Colorado, USA / vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv ---------------------------------------------------------- From: amy@arla.austin.mcd.mot.com (Amy Moseley) Subject: Diane Date: Fri, 20 Sep 91 10:51:48 CDT To Diane, who recently enrolled in this list--I have the list of mailing lists you asked for... -- Amy J. Moseley Motorola Computer Group (512) 329-7117 :) amy@austin.mcd.mot.com or uunet!cs.utexas.edu!oakhill!arla!amy ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1991 12:44:38 -0400 (EDT) From: RH2@JAGUAR.UCS.UOFS.EDU (Rebel, Runner, Restless Young Romantic) Subject: dogs and welding in response to the recent thread of inquiry about the barking in 'dreamline': it sounds to me (so therefore it could be incorrect) exactly like the few measures of 'owner of a lonely heart' right before trevor's solo...its the part in the video where the welding occurs. these sound are produced by the electronic drums, so perhaps if indeed the sounds are the same, neil is this hypothetical dog. rose ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 91 13:46:17 BST From: ano@csres.cs.reading.ac.uk (Adrian N Ogden) Subject: How much sound can you fit on one side of vinyl? jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes: >And there is a puzzler: >>"So with _Presto_, the only way we could keep the running order the way >>we wanted was to put more material on side one than on side two. >>This means the sound level on the first side is lower that on the second." >Could one of our resident engineers please explain this one? >I have trouble seeing how the amount of material on the sides >of a recording could affect their relative sound level. It >almost sounds like, gee, each side can only have so much _sound_ >and we've got to distribute amongst _all these songs_! WHA?! Well, although I'm not an engineer I seem to recall that it works something like this... The groove on a record is simply an etched pattern which matches the waveform of the sound it is recording, and the depth of the groove determines the volume. This automatically limits the playing time of an album, by a simple "maximum groove density". Right? Well, actually no. 'Cos if the only degree of freedom you have is depth, you can only control one channel. Which was fine until some wiz-kid invented stereo! With two channels you need a second degree of freedom so you can control them both. You need to use the width! So they invented a system with a V-shaped groove where the right hand side controls one channel, and the left hand side the other. needle || __________ || __________ surface \ / \ / \\ // L \\// R \/ ^ | centrepoint So, to produce a louder sound on the left channel, the left hand side of the groove must give way, so the needle moves left, and (in order to preserve that smooth V shape) it simultaneously moves deeper down. needle || ______ || __________ surface \ || / \ || / \ / \ / <--- \\ // \\// \/ ^ | centrepoint And the same procedure applies on the other side for the volume of the right channel. If both sides get louder simultaneously, then both sides of the groove widen out and the needle descends straight down. ______ <-- || --> ______ surface \ || / \ || / \ || / \ || / \ / \ / \\ // \\// \/ ^ | centrepoint So, while depth of the grooves is the only factor for mono records, stereo affects the width as well. So the louder you mix the wider your grooves need to be, and thus the fewer grooves can fit on one side of the record. I hope that was clear enough. << Adrian Ogden _ . _ _ _ . _ _ _ _ . . ano@uk.ac.rdg.cs.csres >> ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 91 16:23:48 -0500 From: Mark Shaw <shaw@aries.scs.uiuc.edu> Subject: Tour Dates for Rush I just read in the local paper that tickets go on sale tomorrow - that is Saturday, Sept. 21 for a concert in Normal, Illinois (at the Redbird Arena on November 9. So, there's a confirmed date. Someone also asked about the Gangsters of Boats Trilogy, and I heard Geddy respond to a question about it on the CD Launch a few weeks ago by saying, "[more info will be available] as soon as we write them!" So, it sounds like it was just a joke to link part 4 and trilogy, IMHO. Mark mshaw@uiuc.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 91 16:30:33 -0500 From: toronto@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (James Moseley) Subject: ANSWERED QUESTIONS! First of all, let me congratulate the author of "I HATE MY LIFE" or "YOU BET YOUR WIFE". I thought that was pretty good myself! Now on to the answers\suggestions: To the person searching for the tabs or chords to "Broon's Bane" and "The Trees": You can find these in RUSH COMPLETE. It's a big paperback of the music from RUSH to SIGNALS. It was published in 1983 by CORE MUSIC PUBLISHING. If there's anybody who really wants to find out what Jack Secret looks like, turn to page 94 of VISIONS. He's the one yawning and petting the dog. And as my sister said, Tony's wearing sunglasses alright. BTW VISIONS is a biography of RUSH written by the B-Man. Info on VISIONS can be obtained in the FAQL. I think? Oh, about the dogs on "Dreamline", that sounds like a wood block sampled to a keyboard or computer with its parameters changed. Listen to it again. James Moseley (toronto@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 91 17:49:26 EDT From: katopis@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Chris J Katopis) Subject: Re: 09/18/91 - The National Midnight Star #342 ** Special Edition ** PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 91 20:07:34 -0400 From: supriya (Lyricist) Subject: Neil Peart's Book I have heard rumors that Neil Peart is writing a book which will be available shortly in stores...can anyone confirm or deny this?? --Supriya DD--take care.. ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Dog's Barking, I don't think so! From: vinnie@darkside.com (Vindicator) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 91 16:11:25 PDT Well just a short comment on the barking that everyone say that they hear in Dreamline. First of all the first time I heard it, I heard it on a tape from off of the radio that sounded much clearer than the CD. To me it sounded like and still sounds like a submarine's sonar blip that is sent out. If anyone has seen The Hunt for Red October, I'm sure you know what I mean. I always pictured Neil triggering it. I listened to it again, and I guess if you stretch it, it could be a dog. I dunno why it would be? Oh well still sounds like sonar to me. Anyone else agree? I have the transcriptions to both The Trees and Broons Bane, they are in a Rush music book, I don't have it right here, but if you send me some mail I will get the name of it and the publisher for you. My brother, Sean, has already learned every song in the damn book. Nuff' Sed! "We are the plumbers, that fix, your sinks!" -2112- Signals Tour ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1991 21:31:21 -0500 From: weaver@crdecf.csc.ti.com (Tyler Weaver) Subject: RTB review article Roll the Bones review article copied w/o permission from Music Express magazine, Sept. 91 "There's a scary phenomenon about Rush. With every album they seem to become more sophisticated, more philosophical and more challenging as artistic expressionists. Often described as a 'thinking man's heavy metal group,' Rush have the dual capability of laying down thought-provoking lyrical theses in sync with some of the most stirring sounds ever to emote from a stereo speaker. It's even more amazing when you consider this entire structure is designed by three remarkable individuals in the form of percussion/lyricist Neil Peart, vocalist/bassist/keyboardist Geddy Lee and guitarist extraordinaire Alex Lifeson. With _Roll the Bones_, the Toronto trio delves into the sociological implications of taking a gamble in life, lyrically examining the ways humanity takes advantage of (or limits) its opportunities. Most of the tracks project a positive message, with the title track, "Bravado," "Dreamline" and "Neurotica" taking an encouraging stance. In a line from "Bravado" (which Peart lifted from John Barth's _The Tidewater Tales_), Lee sings:"Though everything is lost, we will pay the price but we will not count the cost." But as "You Bet Your Life,""Ghost of a Chance" and "The Big Game"[sic] conclude, life is a game of chance and the odds of pushing your luck in an evil way or moving forward in a positive way usually even out in the end. Musically, the trio are razor sharp, with the arrangements both stark and biting. Co-producer Rupert Hine, often accused of overkill, keeps everything tightly in focus, using keyboards to accentuate the production rather than clutter up the tracks. One real treat is the instrumental "Where's My Thing?" in which Peart, Lifeson and Lee gallop through a stinging shuffle rock arrangement -- performed with all the technical expertise of a veteran group, yet also with the enthusiastic abandonment of a garage band laying down their first demos. They're musicians' musicians with a consistency that's almost awesome to comprehend. Chalk up _Roll the Bones_ as another Rush album -- the name itself is rock's _Good Housekeeping_ seal of approval." written by Keith Sharp rating ****1/2 (out of 5) (...a music critic who LIKES RUSH!? imagine that...) Keep 'em rollin' --Tyler weaver@splvx1.csc.ti.com ----------------------------------------------------------
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