The National Midnight Star #341

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 09/18/91 - The National Midnight Star #341
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 341 Wednesday, 18 September 1991 Today's Topics: Administrivia Re: 09/16/91 - The National Midnight Star #339 Re: 09/16/91 - The National Midnight Star #339 RTB - #1 in the States? Select Magazine Articles Rush Tops the Charts Dogs While on the subject of Jack Secret... Trends in reviews... Zanadu? Huh? Re: The author of 'Tears' Love Songs Pittsburgh tour dates Tears Geddy/Alex/Drum Machine yet another rap theory Re: A few thoughts The Weapon ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Editor, The National Midnight Star <rush-mgr> Subject: Administrivia At some point yesterday evening Syrinx crashed/rebooted due to a severe thunderstorm in these parts. If you had any problems with the anonymous ftp, or got two copies of yesterday's digest, that explains it. Also, the Mac sounds directory on Syrinx has been removed. The files there were uploaded improperly, and were unusable. They should reappear sometime soon. Folks, PLEASE send your administrative mail to the administrative address. I think I'm actually "blue in the face" from saying this. 1/2 :-) On with the show, rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 17:29:22 EDT From: katopis@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Chris J Katopis) Subject: Re: 09/16/91 - The National Midnight Star #339 please unsubscribe me at this time ---------------------------------------------------------- From: The Spanish Penguin <cook@donald.cs.umn.edu> Subject: Re: 09/16/91 - The National Midnight Star #339 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 16:59:39 CDT My $4.69 worth: (hey, we are in a recession, aren't we??) To paco@news.cc.wm.edu: ----------------------- 1.) What you say about our friend Rupert Hine may be true...he was credited for keyboards and backing vocals...he was the voice saying "Superconductor"...but he is not the mystery rapper on _Roll The Bones_. I'll tell you (and the world for that matter) why it is not: On August 29...Q107 out of Toronto broadcast the CD launch of _Bones_ and it was carried simulcast all across the nation. Before the DJ played RTB he, Geddy and Alex were talking about it, and he said that he had believed that Rupert was the rapper, but Geddy was quick to point out that he was not. But he didn't say who it was. The only other person I know who could have possible done it is "Jack Secret" a.k.a. Tony Gerainos. It doesn't take much voice altering to get Tony's voice to sound like that. I could be wrong...but I know *FOR SURE* it isn't Rupert Hine. No flames...just makin' the public more aware.... :) To Bob Foery (bobf@verdix.com) ------------------------------ 2.) Dude...I will gladly tak a part in this bet. since you're just a couple hundred miles up the road, it won't take to long to get up there. (I''m down here at Va Tech in Blacksburg.) So count me in.!!!!!! Well, that's almost $4.69, but who's counting....?????? Jay Cook VA Tech Liberal Arts and Sciences cook@donald.cs.umn.edu "We're only at home when we're on the wing." -Rush ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 21:14:27 -0400 From: "Douglas G Schwabe" <cschwabe@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Subject: RTB - #1 in the States? It's a possiblity. They have already reached their highest chart position ever (#3 for Moving Pictures in '81) so I wouldn't be surprised if RTB would surpass that and hit #1. It would be quite an acheivement, indeed. Now if Metallica would drop out of there this week... :) Doug P.S. Where's My Elephant in my cassette case? ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 21:40:51 EDT From: Ian Nathan <EU894C@gwuvm.gwu.edu> Subject: Select Magazine Articles Just a reminder to read Kerrang magazine for a review of Roll The Bones and Keyboard magazine for a profile of Rupert Hine (and a little about his involvement with RUSH). Ian Nathan The George Washington University (conveniently located just blocks from the White House in the wonderful neighborhood of Foggy Bottom) Washington, D.C. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 21:51:31 EDT From: "David S. Schmidt" <dschmidt@sales.stern.nyu.edu> Subject: Rush Tops the Charts The latest Billboard magazine (Sept. 21, 1991) contained: **** Rush Rolls In At No. 3 As Vets Have Their Day RUSH's "Roll the Bones" enters The Billboard 200 Top Albums chart at No. 3, instantly matching the peak position of the band's highest-charting album, "Moving Pictures." The veteran hard-rock band racked up six consecutive top 10 albums between 1980 and 1985, but missed the mark with its last two studio releases, "Hold Your Fire," which peaked at No. 13 in 1987, and "Presto," which stalled at No. 16 in late 1989. The lackluster showing of "Presto" was especially disappointing because it was the band's first album for Atlantic following a 15-year stint with Mercury/PolyGram. But the No. 3 debut of the band's second Atlantic release more than compensates. **** Not bad eh! But that's not all! Billboard also has charts for singles and such. On the "Album Rock Tracks" chart: __________________________________ | * * No. 1 ** | | DREAMLINE RUSH | |__________________________________| Last week: #2, two weeks ago: #5, weeks on chart:3 Also, on the actual Billboard 200 chart, there is a note (*) meaning that the vinyl LP is unavailable. Only CD and cassette! Also in the issue: a Full page color ad for RTB! It is the CD cover with the following text in BIG letters over the water: ROLL THE BONES THE NEW RELEASE BY RUSH FEATURING DREAMLINE NORTH AMERICAN TOUR KICKS OFF OCTOBER 25TH The new charting system called "Sound Scan" might be somewhat responsible for the high rankings, but what the heck! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 22:04 EDT From: KRKST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu Subject: Dogs This is my first posting to the NMS, so excuse me if this question sounds stupid. Does anyone else hear dogs barking during a part of Dreamline? A friend of mine insists that I am crazy, but I'm sure I hear them. Anyway I would like to comment on the fact that I'm baffled over how a person can guess what the Boyz will play live. I saw them hear in Pittsburgh last June and I was shocked when they played Freewill second and even more shocked when I heard the birds chirping and the sampled wood blocks before they kicked into Xanadu. [ I know *I* screamed myself hoarse at that point... :rush-mgr ] Also, even if these posters are clairvoyent or something why wouldn't you include "Marathon" on your list? It is definitely one of their most powerful live tunes. Well thanks for your time and keep Rushing Thru Time. Kevin Kirwan ORQ: "Be cool or be cast out" -- Subdivisions ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 22:08:37 EDT From: "Dan Newcombe(Graphics Research Group)" <GRDN%MARIST.BITNET@YALEVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> Subject: While on the subject of Jack Secret... Who Jack Secret is, I don't know... But I did notice this today... On the Blue Oyster Cult album "Imaginos" (1989) there is a Jack Secret listed under the additional musicians as a vocalist. Is it just me, or does Tony Geranios look like Mick Mars. That's what I thought of him when I met him. -Dan ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Trends in reviews... Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 22:22:54 EDT From: David.Spencer@samba.acs.unc.edu! Well. I really didn't want to post this, as it is kinda a useless post. But. (you knew that was coming...) I don't understand these album reviews. When I read a review, I look for facts...an opinion or two is okay, but violent opinions, bashing of others' reviews, statements backed up by nothing..they just annoy me. I would post my comments about the new album, but after the multitude of 'reviews', it would be useless. Maybe it is just me, but I hate reading 1000+ lines and having a good portion of it the same boring flames/silliness so abundant in the big usenet groups. Maybe I'm missing out on some important point? :) Oh, and does anybody else hear the beginning of Dreamline and automatically think Billy Joel? Tnx 4 your time. 'Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand...' ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 22:16 PDT From: Chris 'Mortimer' Chamberlin <CHAMBERLIN%CATLIN.bitnet@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu> Subject: Zanadu? Huh? This may be a FAQ, but it's not on the list, so I'll ask it anyway. If it is indeed a FAQ, would someone just write me directly and yell at me there? At any rate, it'll break up the RTB rantings/ravings/ whinings/screamings/flamings. On my (tape) copy of Exit...Stage Left, Xanadu isn't Xanadu. It's spelled Zanadu on both the tape case insert and the tape itself. The only other person I've spoken to that knew anything's copy said Xanadu. Note that this copy wasn't sold back in 1981 when it was released, but instead shortly after I became a Rush fan about two years back. What I want to know is if this is a big deal, or instead a well-known screwup that no one gives a damn about. I thought it was pretty neat, but maybe the rest of the world doesn't. Thanks much. - Chris "Hahahahahahahaha!!" - A friend after hearing the title "Where's My Thing?" but before hearing the song itself. He liked it. ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: The author of 'Tears' Date: Wed, 18 Sep 91 0:14:29 CDT From: David Sandberg <sialis!dts@cs.umn.edu> cfabrams@eos.ncsu.edu writes: > ... why are people "astonished" by the fact that neal is writing "love > songs"? ... what about a good oldie called "Tears"? My recollection is that Geddy Lee was responsible for both the music and lyrics of "Tears", just as Alex was for "Lessons" from the same album. Not surprisingly, the lyrics to both of these little ditties are comparitively sophomoric... hey, put down that cream pie!... <splat> -- "and if the music stops, there's only the sound of the rain all the hope and glory, all the sacrifice in vain" - my favorite lyrics from RTB ___ david sandberg ___ dts@quad.sialis.com ___ GO TWINS! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: amy@arla.austin.mcd.mot.com (Amy Moseley) Subject: Love Songs Date: Wed, 18 Sep 91 10:32:56 CDT In the last issue of TMNS, someone mentioned "Tears" as a good love song that Neil wrote. Well, Geddy wrote both the lyrics and music to that song, I know because it was my and my ex-boyfriend's "song." He was the one to turn me on to Rush. He made the tape for me and I cried as I listened to it. One of the first Rush songs I listened to except for ESL and COS. My current fiance and I don't have a "song." I think we need to get one. Ghost Of A Chance isn't somehow fitting; Madrigal is better. -- Amy J. Moseley Motorola Computer Group (512) 329-7117 :) amy@austin.mcd.mot.com or uunet!cs.utexas.edu!oakhill!arla!amy ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1991 11:17:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Ceri Alun Morgan <cm5m+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Pittsburgh tour dates I just heard on the radio that RUSH will be playing in Pittsburgh. They didn't know the exact date, but they said 'soon'. Anyone know anything else? By the way, at first, I wasn't thriled with RtB, but after a few days off from listening to it, i played it again today and loved it. Give it a chance. Ceri Morgan ' ' - this quote intentionally left blank. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: stedmant@LONEX.RL.AF.MIL (Terrance A. Stedman) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 91 11:51:20 EDT Subject: Tears >"astonished" by the fact that neal is writing "love songs"? maybe i'm way >off the >mark hear, but what about a good oldie called "Tears"? i think neal >has ALWAYS had the >capacity to write "love songs"--hell, neal can write about *anything* he >wants... Hate to pick, but Neil didn't write the lyrics to tears... > Tears > ----- > Lyrics by Geddy Lee Terry Stedman Internet: stedmant@lonex.rl.af.mil ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I ) I I <~ I_I "It is my will which chooses, and the choice of my will I \ I_I _> I I is the only edict I must respect." - Rand from _Anthem_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Sep 91 10:19 MST From: "IAN D. BJORHOVDE" <IANBJOR@ccit.arizona.edu> Subject: Geddy/Alex/Drum Machine I wasn't aware that there were drum machines out there that could actually do the rhythmic patters that Rush is known for! :-) I don't even know of a human that can follow the signature changes in Superconductor. Puanani: How many posts can you have in one day? Maybe you can set some kind of TNMS Record... :-) Later, all Ian ianbjor@ccit.arizona.edu Department of Materials Science & Engineering University of Arizona ---------------------------------------------------------- From: pat@jaameri.gsfc.nasa.gov (Patrick M. Ryan) Subject: yet another rap theory Date: Wed, 18 Sep 91 14:45:16 EDT I, for one, like the rap section on 'RTB'. I don't know who it is but I don't think it's one of the boyz. My theory is that, in concert, it will be sampled and we'll see the mystery speaker on the big video screen ala Aimee Mann. Gotta love those Knopfler-esque riffs in 'Ghost'. I could listen to a whole album of that. I can see it now, Alex covering 'Sultans of Swing' ... A note to schaaphe@serc.nl: I almost have the YYZ tab done. I'll get it to you soon. 'unstable condition a symptom of life in mental and environmental strain' -- patrick ryan oceans and ice branch nasa / stx / goddard space flight center pat@jaameri.gsfc.nasa.gov / zmpmr@charney.gsfc.nasa.gov ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Sep 91 20:47 From: "Thomas Koenig" <UI0T%DKAUNI2.BITNET@YALEVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> Subject: Re: A few thoughts > From: Tero Valkonen <one@clinet.FI> > Subject: A few thoughts > Date: Sat, 14 Sep 91 21:28:52 EET > [some stuff deleted] > > Gregg, I think you're finding too deep meanings in Rush lyrics. Neil > himself has said that lots of people don't seem to understand that > he wrote the lyrics only for fun. Oh well, there is also the thing > called freedom of thought, so that's ok by me. hmmmm... I always thought that Rush had the best and most thoughtful lyrics in the buisiness... At least, they are usually thought - provoking to me, which is more than can be said for most other lyrics. As far as "deepness" goes - my English teacher once refused to include "Tom Sawyer" in his lessons (I had recommended it to him) on the grounds that it would be too difficult; we did a Shakespeare sonnet instead, if I remember correctly. > The more I think about the lyric for Heresy, the more disgusting it > seems. Neil has become a Phil Collins who writes about another day > in paradise.. And I thought Neil was both intelligent and > non-hypocritic. I presume from the comparison with Collin's "Day in Paradise" that you find "Heresy" disgusting because of too much sentimentality. I won't argue personal taste, but I still think the comparison is unfair. "Heresy" is about the damage that has been done to people's lives by communism and the Cold War, which is not a happy subject. Of course, it is possible to treat this subject in a more positive way, by focusing on possible future developments, but the Scorpions have already done so in "Winds of Change", so what was left? :-) >one@clinet.fi, known also as Tero Valkonen in the world outside the computers. Thomas Koenig EARN/BITNET : UI0T@DKAUNI2.BITNET INTERNET : UI0T@IBM3090.RZ.UNI-KARLSRUHE.DE : ib09@RZ.UNI-KARLSRUHE.DE X.400 : S=UI0T;OU=IBM3090;OU=RZ;P=UNI-KARLSRUHE;A=DBP;C=DE ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Sep 91 21:01 From: "Thomas Koenig" <UI0T%DKAUNI2.BITNET@YALEVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> Subject: The Weapon I don't doublt you'll all recognize the second verse from "The Weapon": He's not afraid of your judgement He knows of horrors worse than your Hell He's a little bit afraid of dying -- But he's a lot more afraid of your lying And the things that he fears are a weapon to be held against him... Who, esteemed net.rush.experts, is he? I've thought of several possibilities, including all kinds of political, economic or military leaders - but they all (to me) seem to founder on the "But he's a lot -" line. Why should somebody like that be afraid of somebody else lying (in a public opinion poll, or what?) [ I think it's along the lines of "I can deal with what I know, or see coming; I can't deal with subterfuge and lies." Kind of like Klingons; they gladly face death with a known enemy, but to be poisoned has no honour. Just a guess... :rush-mgr ] I'm determined to understand all Rush lyrics sooner or later :-)) Thomas Koenig EARN/BITNET : UI0T@DKAUNI2.BITNET INTERNET : UI0T@IBM3090.RZ.UNI-KARLSRUHE.DE : ib09@RZ.UNI-KARLSRUHE.DE X.400 : S=UI0T;OU=IBM3090;OU=RZ;P=UNI-KARLSRUHE;A=DBP;C=DE ----------------------------------------------------------
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