The National Midnight Star #313

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 08/13/91 - The National Midnight Star #313
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 313 Tuesday, 13 August 1991 Today's Topics: Administrivia Tour dates, Target, GftPM, Top 10 11 non-Rush CD's afor the adventurous Lyrics to Dreamline... Was that Really Neil?! You know you're a RUSH fan when... Laser Show--Houston Playing Sparc/NeXT stuff on MS-DOS boxes Far out. Long distance Dreamline Orgasm! Questions for interview with Geddy; Roll The Bones -- a review for TNMS thanks for the "Deamline" audio Available Boots List Primus Fans? most listened to non-Rush albums DREAMLINE guitar transcription I heard it too!!! ISTBE PC problems RTB release date: 9/2 or 9/3? Top non-Rush albums Neil's comments on RTB, Skid Row Trivia, News for UK people, Lyrics. DREAMLINE transcription correction Alex, Primus and more Primus Legality of playing _Dreamline_ Having rolled the bones... Metallica's New Album A Good Tune say I You know you're a RUSH fan when... Dreamline.au Just a quick question Sorry, but...... (none) Wow! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Editor, The National Midnight Star <rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu> Subject: Administrivia First of all, there was no NMS for Monday, 8/12/91, so today's is long (over 30 mail items!). Also, PLEASE try to limit your posts to Rush and Rush-related topics, and try to make it meaningful for more than just yourself and a friend. I am seeing a trend in more personal-type responses and divergence into other groups. These are fine if in a Rush context, but I'd rather not turn this list into a Metallica, or Primus list. Just try to keep somewhere near the general topics pertaining to Rush, please. rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 09 Aug 91 21:12:00 CDT From: "Al B. Tross (are you sure?) NO!" <MV012791@VM1.NoDak.EDU> Subject: Tour dates, Target, GftPM, Top 10 Way too many things to talk about, eh? Dreamline: I LOVE IT! Roll The Bones: I LOVE IT! btw, i haven't heard either yet, just a pretty sure prediction :-) Primus: PRIMUS SUCKS!!! such is the cry of the true Primus fan. Now on to the subjects listed: Does anyone have the tour dates and cities for the upcoming tour? Especially, if anyone (PLEASE!) can tell me when they are coming to Minneapolis or Winnipeg. It would also be great news to hear they're coming to Bismarck or Fargo. RIGHT! Target: you know, the department store. They seem to have the catch phrase "Start Seeing Red". AppropriateRQ: I see red. This appeared in the September 1991 issue of Guitar For The Practicing Musician mag, LETTERS dept., published by Cherry Lane Music Company, Inc. Taken without permission, so "Suck My Dick". :-) Dear GUITAR, It's 6:56 AM, and I just returned from England last night, so I'm not quite adjusted to the time change yet. We spent three weeks there mixing the new album, _Roll_The_Bones_, and when I got home I saw my copy of GFTPM's Hall of Fame issue. I wanted to take the opportunity to thank you and your readers for your very kind thoughts and support. Joe Perry and I have been around for quite some time now, and it would appear we'll be around a while yet. My regret is that Stevie Ray Vaughan can't be there with us. Best regards, Alex Lifeson Toronto, Canada end of transcription------------------------------------------------------ What a nice guy. BTW, it's the issue with Nuno on the cover. My top 10 non-Rush CD's (I also refuse to be left out): 1. The Police Synchronicity 2. Yes Union 3. Yes Fragile 4. Megadeth Rust In Peace 5. Genesis Genesis 6. Damn Yankees Damn Yankees 7. The Police Every Breath You Take--The Singles 8. Queensryche the first five :-) 9. Duran Duran the first four >...and starting Monday... 10. Metallica Metallica Juan more thing: My CD changing is going to get screwed because of RUSH's new album. (Although it's not really a complaint of any sorts.) This is my configuration for the past few months: Magazine 1: disc 1 - Rush Mag 2: 1 - PeW Mag 3: 1 - AtWaS 2 - FBN 2 - MP 2 - E...SL 3 - CoS 3 - Sig 3 - ASoH 4 - 2112 4 - GUP 4 - Presto 5 - AFtK 5 - PoW 5 - Chr 1 6 - Hem 6 - HYF 6 - Chr 2 I either have to knock off _RUSH_ and regroup them, or (*gasp*) actually dig out some cash and buy another CD magazine. The former would make it three whole mags of Neil, Geddy, and Alex exclusive (with the exceptions of guests like Hugh and Ammie, and the two first songs on Chr 1). I was wondering if anyone else has their CD magazines like this (that is, the first two mags full of their Polygram studio albums, and the last one with their live, Atlantic, and compilation albums). Till I post again... Craig Rindy <mv012791@vm1.NoDak.edu> ALBATROSS! P.S.: The RUSH trivia question with the five digit number (something like 40520?); well, that was the ZIP code for Middletown, OH. I told you it was the most stupid question of which I could think. :-) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 Aug 91 21:04:11 EDT From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) Subject: 11 non-Rush CD's afor the adventurous ` Well, I think I'll follow suit and display the weirdness of my tastes. Here are some non-Rush things I like to hear: Klaus Schulze -- X (x-cellent but a bitch to find outside Germany! check out Klaus' 'Babel' in the States) Karlheinz Stockhausen -- Kontakte ('slightly' avant-garde, unbelievable!) Ultravox -- Vienna, Rage in Eden, Quartet (on the Boys' recommendation!) Brian Eno/Harold Budd -- The Pearl (say no more!) Philip Glass -- North Star (vocals!) Igor Stravinsky -- Symphony in Three Movements (perfect music) John Foxx -- Metamatic (classic techno-pop) Edgard Varese -- Poeme Electronique (kicked butt at the '58 World's Fair) Olivier Messiaen -- Livre d'Orgue (mystic harmonies) J.S. Bach -- Goldberg Variations (as perf'ed by Glenn Gould -- go Canada!) Frederic Chopin -- Preludes, Op.28 (as perf'ed by Ivo Pogorelich -- the greatest living pianist, IMHO) ok. I just couldn't stop at 10! Gregg ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 Aug 91 18:27:06 -0700 From: wbarry@cory.berkeley.edu (Bill Barry) Subject: Lyrics to Dreamline... Hello all! Now that I have heard that SOME people got to hear Dreamline I am requesting that somebody please give a semi-accurate description of the lyrics. For those of us who haven't had a chance to hear the song at least that will help! Also, being this is my first contact with the NMS in 3 months, is there a official release date for Roll the Bones? I apologize if this is common knowledge, but I am usually the first person at the store on the release d date. I remember I got Presto just as it was coming out of the box! Good day for now.... Bill Barry "Never turn your back on a monster!" ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Was that Really Neil?! From: easy@darkside.com (Phil D. Croix) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 91 17:43:56 PDT The Press release or whatever that was that I just read, was that Neil talking? I LOVE IT !!!!!!!!!!!! I love it when they are psyched up for an album and a tour! Looks like they are going to stick together for a good long time. This thing about a rebirth of the band and all is making me crazy waiting for the New Album. I have a feeling that it is gonna be a massive seller(then again, maybe not. Roll The bones, anything can happen!). It also seems to me that the song DREAMLINE is sort of a "sequel" or companion to Time Stand Still, since he uses the same themes, but carries them further.(Look at me! I haven't even heard one note off the album, and I am already anylizing! I think I just heard a couple of people flame me and then hastily unsuscribe from the digest. Oh, well. It seems like we lose a few every couple of weeks or so. Oh, well- their loss, if they can't handle knowing that some peoplelike to show their interests and opinions, and it seems that they have lost use of their "scroll finger". I guess you could call this an "open flame" to all of the potential hotheads out there saying, basically- LIGHTEN UP! Anyways, I'm sure all of you have heard all of this preachy type of stuff before, so if you've stopped scrolling, remember this: "E-OH,OH! E-OH,OH! E-OH,OH! E-OH,OH!"- STING AND THIS: "capture my thoughts, carry them away..."- Neil Peart, Mystic Rythms- MATT------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 Aug 91 22:47:17 edt From: "Dylan Kaufman" <morgan@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: You know you're a RUSH fan when... I just thought of this one... You know you're a RUSH fan when, while trying to figure out why the program you're writing is totally destroying it's file, you inspect the hex file and see... 01 00 00 01 00 00 01 (and yes, that IS what the data file looks like!) -<>Dylan<>- MA EMT-M, CA EMT-1A, BEMCo 107 Dylan Kaufman Major in Computer Science morgan@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu Brandeis University, Waltham, MA ------<< Support your local Emergency Medical Services >>------- "I've got something to say! It is better to burn out than to fade away!" - Kurgan ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1991 01:12 CDT From: INDE54Q@Jetson.UH.EDU Subject: Laser Show--Houston Just saw the Rush Laser Show in Houston. It was good, not great, but good. The best part I liked about the show was that someone else (of course) was making the song selections. Therefore, instead of me knowing what was coming next, I was totally unaware and as a consequence surprised. (They had the gall to ask the crowd if an encore was necessary!!) Daryl Santos ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 10 Aug 91 15:28:00 EDT From: "Mike Andrews" <kramer@wittenberg.edu> Subject: Playing Sparc/NeXT stuff on MS-DOS boxes Somewhere, I have a utility to convert and play various formats including Sparc, NeXT, SoundBlaster .voc, Mac, and a few others, I think. I've used it to convert a few Sparc sounds to Soundblaster format before. The down side is that I think the convertor program itself, for some dumb reason, requires Windows. Email me if interested. I'm going to try to convert the Dreamline sample to a Soundblaster file, which will play directly on Macs as well. Mike ---------------------------------------------------------- From: mjordan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Marc Jordan) Subject: Far out. Date: Sat, 10 Aug 91 23:31:15 CDT Well, it's true. One full hour of Rush every Thursday night at 10 on KPEZ here in Austin. I caught part of it last Thursday: The Necromancer By-Tor and the Snow Dog La Villa (ESL) The Weapon These were played in the middle of the hour, so I missed about 15-20 mins at the beginning. I also missed the last 10 mins. I couldn't believe it when I turned on the radio and heard "Brooding in his tower...". HAH! I haven't heard this stuff on the radio in YEARS! Austin never has been big on Rush (not like Houston, the Rush capitol of the south), but this sure as hell is getting me worked up... Oh yeah, every year at superbowl time KLOL in Houston has the Rock-n-Roll Superbowl. It's a call-in-and-vote deal. Well, year before last Rush won hands down. Kicked butt! Made Zeppelin eat humble pie. This year they were neck and neck with Zep (beat out AC/DC, imagine that.), but we had to get back to Austin before the final votes were tallied. We still don't know who won. Anybody know? Oh yeah again, KPEZ has a 'Seventh Day' special every sunday night. They track 7 albums. Guess what? 2112. Ahhhhhhh........ (the more I study random processes, the shorter my vocabulary gets....) Later, Marc Jordan mjordan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Long distance Dreamline Orgasm! From: easy@darkside.com (Phil D. Croix) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 91 23:24:47 PDT Now I have heard it too!! Thanks to a very generous soul by the name of Pete, I heard some NEW RUSH!! I heard it over the phone from 3000 miles away(if you haven't guessed, I live on the west coast, and it seems that the only place that the new song has even seen the light of day is in the Boston and Rhode Island area. I feel so much better now, but craving for more! I'm not going to compare it to any other rush songs, but all I will say is that September cannot arrive soon enough!!). ROLL THE BONES! Thanks again, Pete, and if you ever find yourself in the bay area, give me a call. Speaking of the bay area, how about a New Rush listening party? I'm still up for it. As for the question on how to get good seats in the Bay Area shows, I would say "plan on sleeping outside of Tower or Wherehouse, get to know someone who works at said establishments, by them stuff, and compliment their mothers. OR, become a mountainview resident or make friends with one, because they get to buy tickets a day early! I just happen to be a Mountainview resident! Yeah, TERRITOTORIES indead! So lets get A rush party going! I play drums and I'm sure there is a couple of people who just might happen to play guitar and bass. BYE---- "I looked in the mirror today, my eye just didn't seem so bright. I've lost a few more hairs....I think I'm-I think I'm going BALD!" *No, the above line is not autobiographical... Peace, love, and Tracy Lords> later, Matt ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Aug 91 14:55:24 +0200 From: tools!fl (Frank Lancaster) Subject: Questions for interview with Geddy; Roll The Bones -- a review for TNMS Geddy Lee is coming to Germany for two days next week. And it's highly probable that I'm going to do an interview with him on the 19th. (I'm already nervous now). I thought it would be a good idea to ask him some really interesting questions. And where else than in the TNMS could I get these. So post your questions either directly to me (fl@tools.uucp) or to the TNMS. I also had the great pleasure of receiving a pre-release tape of Roll The Bones! I've been listening to nearly nothing else the whole weekend. I'll try and give you some first impressions but I'm neither a musician nor a good writer. Roll * The * Bones The cover: A boy in front of a wall with dice as bricks kicking a skull. The word "rush" is written with black dice on white dice on the wall. The first thing that hit me was the guitar. I find it really fantastic on this album. There are a lot of guitar solos but it is really the main instrument on most songs. Also Geddy's singing is really impressive. I find it has a lot of the feel of 'Available Light' on Presto. But don't think the other two guys are doing nothing. Just wait until you hear 'Heresy', pretty awesome drumming on that one. And I find the bass sound pretty neat. All in all I haven't felt so impressed so quickly by a new album since 'Power Windows'. Maybe the songs are little bit more accesable again, not so arty. Dreamline We are young Wandering the face of the earth Wondering what our dreams might be worth Learning that we're only immortal for a limited time This is real rocker. Fast, dynamic and compact. Quite typical of the whole album. The words and music fit very well. Bravado And if the love remains, Though everything is lost We will pay the price, But we will not count the cost A slower song. Geddy's voice stands out. A bit melancholy, sad. I especially like the short guitar solo. Roll The Bones Why are we here, because we're here Roll the bones Why does it happen, because it happens Roll the bones Positively funky. And there IS rap in it. But they've dunnit again. I never thought I would like rap, but it fits very well between the funky parts and the more normal rock part. Smashing guitar solo again. Get out there and rock, roll the bones Face Up If I only could reach that light inside Face up, or you can only back down Face up, hit the target Or you'd better hit the ground Turn it up, or turn that wild card down Straighter rock, Rush as we know it. As someone once said, a smooth 12 cylinder motor. Where's My Thing? Also funky, jazzy. But with hard rock parts and airy, a tad bombastic, keyboards. There's really a lot in this songs, and it's so short and compact. The Big Wheel Playing for time, don't want to wait forever Looking for love, for an angel to forgive my sins Playing with fire, chasing something never believed in Looking for love, the way the big wheel spins 'Chemistry' type beginning, then very rocky, hard guitar sound. Chorus section very melodious. Also somewhat tense, jerky parts. Heresy All those wasted years All those precious wasted years Who will pay? Do who have to be forgiving at last? What else can we do. Do have we have to say goodbye to the past? Yes, I guess we do. This is my favourite. The most political tune. Has the best drumming on the record I think. Military type intro (drums). Also very melodious. Keyboards are a bit stronger but still background as on the whole album. A Ghost Of A Chance I don't believe in destiny Or the guiding hand of fate I don't believe in forever Or love as a mystical state I don't belive in the stars or the planets Or angels watching from above All I believe there's a ghost of chance To find someone to love and make it last Again guitar dominated. A medium speed rock song, a bit jazzy, with a slow, very emotive chorus section. Neurotica Life is a diamond, we turn into dust Waiting for rescue, And you know you just don't get it Neurotica, exotica, Erotica, hypnotica, Psychotica, idiotica Throbbing bass part. A bit jerky and nervous. Fast guitar solo. You Bet Your Life The odds get even You play the game The odds get even The stakes are the same Lively, wacky guitar. Weird background lyrics. Probably the most cheerful, vigorous song. I think it captures the feeling of the band as they made the record best. ----------------------------------------- Get out there and rock, roll the bones ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rstark@aipna.edinburgh.ac.uk Date: Sun, 11 Aug 91 17:36:30 BST Subject: thanks for the "Deamline" audio subject says it...I downloaded it and have been listening on my spark. Wow, the miracle of modern tech! Can't wait for the whole album...in stereo no less! -Randall ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Aug 91 16:55:12 edt From: "Dylan Kaufman" <morgan@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: Available Boots List Hi, Well, I finally received a single submission from someone else. As well, I received a couple of notes saying "please don't kill it yet, I'm working on it". So the list is still around. There is a new version, dated 11 August 1991 (I'm going by date now rather than version number... makes more sense, no?). Another change is that the files are now kept in a directory called abl and now do not have the abl. prefix. In other words, the files are kept on chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (129.64.2.6) in the directory ~ftp/morgan/abl, and are called people, item, and format. Although I am keeping the files for now, if I don't start getting responses within a couple of weeks after school starts (which gives you about a month from now), I am going to discontinue it. -<>Dylan<>- MA EMT-M, CA EMT-1A, BEMCo 107 Dylan Kaufman Major in Computer Science morgan@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu Brandeis University, Waltham, MA ------<< Support your local Emergency Medical Services >>------- One can never have too much RAM or too much disk space. -- Ancient American Proverb, c. 1980 ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1991 16:13 MST From: "Eric Kay (303) 499-7577" <KAY_E@CUBLDR.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Primus Fans? I found the following article in Boulder Colorado's local newspaper, the "Daily Camera", Sunday, 11 Aug. 91, in the "accent" section, under "entertainment". (page 5C) ========================================================= PRIMUS Rush was always too damn serious. The heavy metal virtuosos' album titles, for pete's sake, occasionally quote Shakespeare. But you won't get that from Primus: Instead, take this year's _Sailing the Seas of Cheese_, which squeezes Rush's musical mastery through a hallucinogenic grater. The San Francisco trio, led by bassist Les Claypool and his cartoon mohawk, tilts tight, Rush-like rythms about 45 degrees. Claypool's bouncing bass meets drummer Tim Alexander's garage-rock pounding for a surreal, catchy set of 11 songs. With meaning, too! "Jerry Was a Race Car Driver" describes a cocky racing jock and his horrible fate; "Sgt. Baker" is as good an anti-military song as any; "Tommy the Cat" even includes a Tom Waits vocal cameo. And, lest you don't buy the Rush comparisons, check out 1989's live _Suck on This_, which opens with a speed-metal snippet of that band's "YYZ". Primus and Tad perform Tuesday at 8 p.m. at the Gothic Theatre, 3263 S. Broadway, Denver. Tickets are $12.50 at TicketMaster. Call 290-8497. -- STEVE KNOPPER ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1991 10:33 +1000 From: "BLUE OYSTER CULT,RUSH,GRATEFUL DEAD,YES,MARILLION,HAWKWIND,LED ZEPPELIN, HUSKER DU" Subject: most listened to non-Rush albums I like reading them - so before the rush-mangr calls an end... Yes - Union (although the lyrics often read like japanime translations the input from so many musicians is amazing) Fields of the Nephilim - Earth Inferno (LIVE and totally strange - the lead singer, Carl McCoy was the zone walker in _Hardware_) Blue Oyster Cult - Career of Evil/Some Enchanted Evening (Astronomy.......) The Grateful Dead - Built to Last/Blues for Allah Marillion - Season's End (Well, I like it! You fishophiles can go...) adam B=NGC1275{cyber}===C-a-r-d-(-s-)==C-a-r-r-y-i-n-g==F-a-n-b-o-y-=={elf}NCC1701=B |"I had a dream of the open water 6| Cerebus! Eightball! Sandman! >MANGA!< | A I was swimming away out to sea 4| Rush! Grateful Dead! Marillion! Yes! I | So deep I could never touch bottom 7| KW Jeter! OS Card! Gemmell! Tanith Lee!| R What a fool I used to be" - Rush 3| //AMIGA | bETA 0mega bETA:`we suck'F | >c9036973@wombat.newcastle.edu.au< 8| \X/unbound | O==][========> :-) deadcp| T{goth}m-e-m-b-e-r--o-f--t-h-e--O-r-d-e-r--o-f--I-n-f-u-s--F-r-e-a-k-u-s{indie}F ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 01:54:45 -0400 From: jtkung@caf.MIT.EDU (Joseph Kung) Subject: DREAMLINE guitar transcription Thanks for whoever downloaded the audio file for "Dreamline" on the net. Also thanks to our friendly NMS editor for putting it in anonymous FTP and testing it on a NEXT machine. I was able to get an analog copy from a NEXT machine and transcribe most of the song. This is for the guitarists out there : The song is probably cut with a PRS fitted with Evans active single-coils and played thru a GK preamp (the newer model). The following is a transcription (probably not completely correct, but close I think). The verse is played with extreme compression and distortion, and is all muted picking on the B and E strings : |-----0--5--0--5--7--5--0---0--5--0--5--7--5--9-------- |---0---------------------0---------------------------- |------------------------------------------------------ The above is repeated 6 times during the verse, though the last four notes are not played on the 6th time since it goes into the power chords. The power chords section goes something like this (all no 3rds) : G, F#, E, G, F#, D (then some fills from Dmaj to Dsus4 to Dmaj. see *) F#, E, B, C, D, E G, F#, E G, F#, D (see *) F#, E, B C, D, E (right into the muted part) * The fill section is like : |--2-----4--2- |----3-------- |------2------ |------------- if you choose to play the D on the G, B, and E strings, else it can be played higher : |------------- |--7-----8--7- |----7-------- |------7------ |------------- I'm not really sure about these power chords. No-3rds seem to abound; like in "The Analog Kid", this song sounds like it has no-3rds all over the place (Alex is an admitted no-3rd maniac). I usually play the no-3rd chords like this : |----------------- |--7-------------- as an example of D-no 3rd. All the power chords |--7-------------- can be played like this on these three strings. |--5-------------- |----------------- Following the power chord section is the intro mute sequence again, same as before. Then into power chord section. This is followed by the mute section played ONCE (last 4 notes cut-off again), then going into the "We are young ..." section which doesn't sound like there's any distinct guitar parts, but chords that would go well are : Asus2, Gmaj, Dmaj, and Cmaj, based on Geddy's bass line. You can just follow along with Geddy and do a muted rhythm with the guitar. Then it goes into the muted section again, like before, followed by the power chord section. After this, the solo begins : (bend up to E, (bend up to E, (bend up to E pick 3 times pinch harmonic pinch harmonic (vibrato) and release) 4 times) 4 times) |-------------------------------------------------------------------------- |----------10--8--12----15--------------15-----------------15-------------- |--7---7------------------------------------------------------------------- |-------------------------------------------------------------------------- |-----------------------------------------------------0-------------------- light dive bomb whammy after sounding drone note (bend up (bend up to E) to E) |------------------------------- |--15---15---12----15---15---15- |---------------14-------------- |------------------------------- (slide) (bend up 1) |----12--14--15--12--14--15--17--14--15--15--17--17--15--17-- |-15--------------------------------------------------------- |------------------------------------------------------------ which is followed again by the chorus, and then the power chord section for the last time, ending on E. I'm open to any opinions on the fingerings. Based on the tones, I'd say that the solo starts on a higher string that's treblier, works its way up, and the last flurry is done a lot like the ending to "Limelight" (all on one string, ending on a bend) rather than between the B and E. Alex usually fingers this way. - Joe ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: I heard it too!!! From: wilkinso@darkside.com (Sean Flanegan) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 91 23:54:25 PDT I was with Matt <easy> When Pete (thank you sooooooo much) called to play dreamline over the phone. It is intense!!!!!! And from what he says his friends(who have heard the entire album) say that the instrumental Kicks YYZ's Butt!!!! Pretty hard to believe but I think that it is definately possible!!! I Can't Wait!!!!! sean ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 08:14:04 -0500 (EST) From: rrr@ideas.com (Richard R. Rubel) Subject: ISTBE The Bradbury "I Sing the Body Electric" was also once made into a TV special entitled "The Electric Grandmother". It aired some 8 - 10 years ago. Surprising- in all the lists of favorite albums, no one seems to have mentioned Jethro Tull, a group that to me sounds quite similar to Rush in style. If I were to list my top 10 non-Rush albums of late, they would include the 20 Years of Jethro Tull CD, A few movie soundtracks (like Edward Scissorhands and LadyHawke), and many of Bill Bruford's (late of Yes) albums. Great stuff all. [RICH] ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 09:36:36 -0400 From: abramsc@knoc.dnet.dupont.com Subject: PC problems If it matters, i would like to add to the demand for a PC compatible music reader thing...also, i too am having a lot of trouble viewing gif images on my PC -- "cshow" and "vgif" do not work for any of syrinx's gifs, which can be displayed fine on the unix system at school...anyone know of anything that works a little better on PC's? My opinion of "Mission": forget the lyrics--this is one of the most beautiful sounding songs i have ever heard. but my thanks noetheless go to Amy, Gregg, and whoever else participated in the lyrical discussion--it was very interesting but i'm glad it's over :^) well, now that this post is officially pointless, i'll add one more triviality -- i went to see that movie "Hot Shots" this weekend and guess who did the lighting effects? "Available Light, Ltd." it was almost as exciting as hearing "The Body Electric" in a "Robocop 2" promotion a few months back... later --cam ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 12:12:35 EDT From: Doug White <dwhite@dsys.ncsl.nist.gov> Subject: RTB release date: 9/2 or 9/3? I've been rummaging thru local copies of the NMS, and I cant find the release date. It hit me that if it's 9/2 - that's Labor Day, a day off for me - and I can plan on spending the entire day listening to RTB. (wife won't be home, she works for a college :-) Can someone straighten me out, via email? Thanks in advance, Doug` ---------------------------------------------------------- From: ccmsean@castor.ucdavis.edu (Sean A. Matheis) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 10:32:50 -0700 Subject: Top non-Rush albums Ok, looks like I'll have to jump on the bandwagon since I haven't been able to hear the new song yet. Top non_RUSH albums I've been listening to: (In no particular order) Metallica / Master of Puppets Jesus Jones / Doubt Anthrax / Attack of the Killer B's Ozzy / Blizzard of Ozz Ministry / The mind is a terrible thing to taste Oingo Boingo / Dead Man's Party Metallica / Ride the Lightning Nine Inch Nails / (ack, i can't remember the title) Holst / The Planets XTC / (a mix tape a friend made) Yes, a strange variety, but hey, if it weren't strange, it wouldn't be personal. --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Sean Matheis, SEL Consultant |ccmsean@pollux.ucdavis.edu | |Computing Services, UC Davis |samatheis@ucdavis.edu | |*********************************************************************| |"In Gods we trust. All others pay cash." | #include "disclmr.h" | | -Steven Brust, _Phoenix_ | #include "kill.h" | --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 13:56:39 EDT From: faulkner@acsu.buffalo.edu (shane p faulkner) Subject: Neil's comments on RTB, Skid Row I really enjoyed reading Neil's press release on the new album. The part I enjoyed most was when he said he forsees a LONG creative partnership in Rush's future. Better news was never heard! Skid Row have recorded a cover of 'Finding My Way' (yikes.....) It will appear as a B-side on a single (don't know which one, sorry..) in the UK ONLY. UK subscribers should be on the look-out for this!! ///////////////////////// The Gangster of Boats ///////////////////////// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / Shane P. Faulkner | A to B - Different degrees... / / University At Buffalo | - Rush / / V127L2QZ@UBVMS.BITNET | / / faulkner@acsu.buffalo.edu | Rush - Marillion - Kim Mitchell / ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 18:09:56 BST From: "A.G.Gibb" <agg@ukc.ac.uk> Subject: Trivia, News for UK people, Lyrics. On the subject of Rush trivia, well, it's all part of being interested in a group. Who *doesn't* note little coincidences with familiar pictures, quotes, philosophies etc ? (In a little book I read recently called Innumeracy, people shouldn't be so surprised at the frequency of such coincidences, but I digress.) Such as, The National Midnight Star -- a newspaper(?) in a crappy little cartoon which I only saw for the first time on Saturday called 'Gravedale High'; Australia beating New Zealand at rugby by 21 points to 12; a car seen in Northern Ireland with the registration GIB 2112 (Check my name); and so on, and so forth....:-) Such moanings about these things are a little petty, methinks and as we all know, it doesn't take much to scroll past such crap as this. Anyway, on to something else. Attention all UK subscribers: on the Saturday Rock Show on formidable 1 FM (yeuch!!) Alan Freeman mentioned that there was the possibility that a certain Geddy Lee *might* (a rather big 'might' I fear) be available for a chat before the album was released. So keep your ears open every Saturday from now until September. I shall certainly have my ears glued to the radio this Friday and Saturday to catch Dreamline, unless I buy it first. Yes, I'm one of the poor few who hasn't heard a sausage (in a manner of speaking...). Well, it feels like we're in the minority judging by traffic in the NMS. (Stop whining!) Also, Rush's performance at the (and I know this is completely wrong, so no rude comments please!) Pinkpop festival in Holland in 1979 was aired again, as part of the requested Archive section section of the programme. Good stuff. Apparently, that session is one of the most often requested on the Friday Rock Show. Unfortunately, I have no means of saving 'for posterity's sake' such a good performance :-( (spot the euphemism!). Reasons for listening to Rush? Number One, first and foremost is the MUSIC -- lyrics always come a poor second, regardless of how good they are. Having said that, groups which always come up with inane or repetitive lyrics are much less likely to be listened to by me. I don't find the plethora of songs about 'chicks' very appealing; hence the lack of many albums by van Halen, Bon Jovi etc. despite the fact that the music is very often quite good. As I said, I don't sit down and pick lyrics apart to try and find what the song's about but I quite like to read sensible discussion about their interpretation. A paradox? Maybe. But there are two Rush songs whose lyrics strike a chord (a suspended chord? :-) in me -- Anthem and everyone's fave at the moment, Mission. Mission also is very strong musically -- if only it ended instead of fading out. (New topic for discussion? Who else hates songs fading out, rather than finishing properly? I'll start! The songs have to finished in concert, so why can't they be ended on the studio versions as well? Eg Tom Sawyer, Red Barchetta, Mission, Marathon, Territories, The Enemy Within,the list goes on...) Perhaps the fact that Rush's lyrics aren't inane helps me enjoy the music more. Anyway, I've rambled on for long enough. Keep up the good work people. Cheers, Andy. PS -- Roll(sic) on Sept. 3rd!! A.G.Gibb, | Acoustic -- a Scottish cattle prod. Radio Astronomy Group, | University of Kent, | "Don't ask me, I'm just improvising..." Canterbury, Kent, UK. | -- Rush, Presto ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 16:16:01 -0400 From: jtkung@caf.MIT.EDU (Joseph Kung) Subject: DREAMLINE transcription correction Sorry guitar fans, but the transcription I sent was in slight error on the verse (the muted picking). If you listen very carefully, you can hear the open E being played only 3 times in the riff. The correct version is : |--------5--0--5--7--5--0------5--0--5--7--5--9---- |---0--7------------------0--7--------------------- |-------------------------------------------------- Any suggestions, errors, etc. please feel free to e-mail me about. Looking forward to hearing the rest of the CD! - Joe ---------------------------------------------------------- From: gbest@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Subject: Alex, Primus and more Primus Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 16:50:25 EDT Alex: Oh Billy! This Alex as guitarist thing looks volatile. Please-- Take the following as my opinion and not as fact (as I do). Alex is an excellent guitarist- he's extremely versatile, he is technically proficient and he has balls. All of these are necessary to be a great guitarist. Alex is the emotion in Rush. Geddy and Neil are almost mechanical in their precission and presentation. (Listen to the bass on Marathon from ASOH, it sound's sequenced.) The bass and drums are played with mathmatical precision but the guitar cuts across the numbers. Think of what Rush's stage show would be like w/o Alex! The music is powerful but Geddy and Neil are too occupied to move. The little imp of a guitarist makes the show much more interesting. Alex isn't afraid to take a chance, he always comes up with interesting textures and sounds. He has a nack for finding the most obscure chords and making them sound perfect. His ability to interpret the music is astounding. All of this to his credit, Alex is not the best guitarist, merely one of my favorites. Look at some one like Steve Vai-- versatile? you bet! Innovative? Damn straight! Fast? blinding! Have the sense to slow down? listen to "For the Love of God". IMO one of the greatest guitar pieces ever (the emotion in that one is unbelieveable) and it was put down in one take. Stage presence? you can't help but be wowed. Watch Crossroads. Look at Robert Fripp, Andy Summers, Eric Johnson, Steve Howe, David Gilmor. Eddie? What has he done for me lately! Would putting Steve Vai in Rush make it a better band? Hell no!! That is my whole point. You don't have to be the best instrumentalists to be a great band (look at U2). The three members have a synergy that comes from the balance of the players. Robbie Krieger wasn't a great guitarist but he just fit in the Doors. Even calling Geddy the best is riding dangerously close to wrong. He is by far my favorite but look at his competition: Stanley Clarke, Jaco Pastorius (God, the music world will miss him), Tony Levin, Les Claypool... Primus: Primus sucks? Suck This! (hee hee). I've been pretty overwhelmed by this band. I stepped in tentatively and wound up a full fledged fan. Alot of energy, good material, sweet bass... More Primus: This is reprinted from Musician Magazine without permission (can I go to jail for this?): " Primus Sailing the Seas of Cheese Strip away the warped lyrics, the fashionable dissonance and the occasional incursions into thrash and all Primus' time tricks, obtuse melodic structures and jazzy vertuosity really add up to is an alternative rock equivalent to Rush. How hip. " end reprint I guess that is supposed to be a bad review but I'd be happy. Comparing anything to Rush is positive in my eyes (and ears) and all the little add in's that they said to ignore are right down my alley. "Take away the meaningful lyrics, the ability to play instuments, a concept of what music is, two band menbers and the singers large nose and Rush's use of the audio frequency range really just adds up to a better version of Madonna. How meaningless" Wow, this is a long one, sorry. Better run. Please flame personal gbest@athena.mit.edu Fish on! Greg "Although Steve Vai insists that he is not trying to take over Eddie's mantle next to Roth, he does play Eddie's landmark solo Eruption on the tour... with his teeth." Reprinted without permission (they're gonna get me for life!) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 17:15 EST From: "Brian S. Bevins" <BEVINS@CEBAF2.CEBAF.GOV> Subject: Legality of playing _Dreamline_ I'm still sort of catching up with recent back issues, so sorry if this is old stuff. Is it still illegal for radio stations to be playing _Dreamline_? Or does this apply only to certain stations who haven't paid for the right? I ask because I have heard it a couple of times in the last few days on a local radio station that shall remain nameless. Brian bsb2u@virginia.edu bevins@cebaf2.cebaf.gov ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gregory R. Bean" <bean@spot.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Having rolled the bones... Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 15:38:02 MDT Wow. After a long hunt, I finally obtained a copy of _Gonna Roll the Bones_. It's a great story - I get something new out of it every time I read it. (Kinda like a Rush tune! :) ) Unfortunately, the ending eludes me, even after three readings. Have any of you out there read this story, and are any of you willing to offer your opinions about what's *REALLY* going on (especially at the end?)? I'd throw my list of fave CDs in here, but with so many disks that I listen to, I'm afraid to pick only 10. C'mon September! Greg -- +--------- Greg Bean! ----------------- bean@spot.Colorado.EDU ---------+ | "BEGONE! . . . sir." | Gabba Gabba Hey! | | "Reasoning is partly insane.." | | + What?!? ANOTHER new .sig? -------- Brought to you by the letter "M". + ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 16:38:48 CDT From: Alan Maupin <X045RM@tamvm1.tamu.edu> Subject: Metallica's New Album Hi everyone. This is my first time to post anything to the NMS so bear with me. It is kind of ironic, but I am not even writing in about rush. I want to let everyone know about the new Metallica album. IT IS GREAT! If you like Metallica's old stuff, you'll love it. I just got it today, and haven't quit listening to it yet. Pay close attention to "Enter Sandman". It is a winner! Anyway, Rush still rules! See ya later!!! R. ALAN MAUPIN Texas A&M University Computing Services Center User Assistance & Support Group (409) 845-8956 ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 15:06:53 PDT From: rjshaw@ocfmail.ocf.llnl.gov (Robert Shaw) Subject: A Good Tune say I Well, as I'm typing this now, my machine is happily emanating Dreamline out of its top -- thanx to whoever(s) made the sound file available. Although not a high-fidelity reproduction by the time it comes out of my Sparc, I like it. It has a fresh sound (to use the B-man's words describing PeW), more bare bones basic rock-n-roll [pun]. It also sounds like they are having fun, Presto didn't give me that impression. I have good feelings about the new album. Maybe I'll even buy the single to hold me over [and fulfill my ethical obligation to purchase Dreamline legitimately in some form, now that I've copied the file...] I've never bought a Rush single before. I never thought about this until now, but p/g thru Presto seem serious in a different way than PeW thru Signals -- I can't put my finger on it, but Dreamline has more of a Signals feeling than, say, HYF. Perhaps I'm just reacting to the simpler sound (less synth, etc...) what do you think? Al-bum and The Reviews, let the fray begin! (to the tune of By-Tor) Rob ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 19:42:36 edt From: "Dylan Kaufman" <morgan@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: You know you're a RUSH fan when... while washing dishes, you hear the strains of The Trees in the squeaks the soapy sponge is making against a mug... ;) -<>Dylan<>- MA EMT-M, CA EMT-1A, BEMCo 107 Dylan Kaufman Major in Computer Science morgan@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu Brandeis University, Waltham, MA ------<< Support your local Emergency Medical Services >>------- One can never have too much RAM or too much disk space. -- Ancient American Proverb, c. 1980 ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 22:12:08 EDT From: Srikant Jayaraman <IDCJ@CORNELLA.cit.cornell.edu> Subject: Dreamline.au Hi everybody, I ftp'd dreamline.au from syrinx this weekend. My friends and I gathered around a Sparc and listened intently. Pretty damn good! Can't wait for 3 Sept 1991! (I'm still tingling...) To daveg, we thank you a million times over. How can we repay you? ;-) Srikant ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Just a quick question From: wilkinso@darkside.com (Sean Flanegan) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 19:50:07 PDT In the CD booklet inside MP why are there only pictures of Geddy and Alex and not of Neil? I saw the NP picture in Visions. It is a cool picture and should not have been omitted. ROLL!!! THE!!!! BONES!!!! sean ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Sorry, but...... From: easy@darkside.com (Phil D. Croix) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 91 18:18:19 PDT Well, it's happening. The local radio stations are playing more Rush than usual. I think sumthin's up! Yep, they just got done playing Presto and YYZ. And when I got home from work, I flipped on a different station and-- Distant Early Warning. Cool. Is it me or does Rush just SOUND 100 TIMES BETTER WHEN YOU HEAR IT ON THE RADIO?! "Invisible airwaves crackle with life....". Sorry to put personal mail on this digest, but I lost an e-mail adress and I don't know how to find it. To james s. I sent your stuff today. I hope you enjoy it("What is he talking about?! Drugs? Pornography? Dead animals?! What?!"). I sent it to your Old Landing adress. Hope they get there alright. Sorry about that, but I was desperate. Well I'm off to the Bahamas tomorrow(..."Bermuda, Bahama, c'mon pretty mamma..." Oooh, those lyrics just MOVE me y'know!), so I won't be posting for a couple of weeks(like anyone really gives, eh?). By the time I get back, RTB should be out. I still can't sit still. Also, I FINALLY heard the thing that Neil did for modern drummer in '87 called "Pieces Of Eight", and I think it is where the xylophone(SP?) part in his current drum solo came from. It is the reoccurring theme throughout the piece. It is pretty cool. Well, I'm off to the matt cave! As Shaggy would say in a situation like this: ZOIKSSSS SCOOB!! Let's get out of here! Right Raggy!!! REMEMBER: Marillion, Rush, Floyd, Red Hots, Sting, Zep, Kascha and Friends, Tracy Lords, and- The Omega Concern. Oh, Yeah, I forgot- Poison.(YEAH, RRRRIGHT!!!!FAGS!) ************************************************************************** Unta Gleeben Globin Glowbin.... ************************************************************************** Matt Van Horn ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Aug 91 12:24:51 +0200 From: schaaphe@serc.nl (Frank Schaapherder) Hi there, All of you who sent me mail requesting for tabs, just hang on a while. I just had a few days off from work, and I will get back on each of you, just be patient. -- Frank (schaaphe@serc.nl) ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Wow! Date: Tue, 13 Aug 91 14:28:14 EDT From: omegaman@media-lab.media.mit.edu Just reading Neils release on the album. More excited than ever! Where's my thing looks cool too. Row the Boats, Greg ----------------------------------------------------------
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