The National Midnight Star #282

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 07/08/91 - The National Midnight Star #282
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 282 Monday, 8 July 1991 Today's Topics: Administrivia You know you're a Rush fan when.... Release dates ..7...8...9...10 Rush quotes in "serious" work rush cd bootleg more balls! Waaaah Waaaah Waaaah Re: 07/03/91 - The National Midnight Star #280 QR and Scott Rockenfield Returned mail album release dates Bootleg questions balls found "The Pass" SPARC audio files tidbits from the Faql PERMANENT WAVES TEST PRESSING Three Gilded Balls You know you're a RUSH fan... record label change Radio Show, Alex and Geddy nerds? and Computer Music Didacts and Narpets, and COS album U KNOW U'R A RUSH FAN.../NEW ALBUM UPDATE! Bootlegs back to school Rush quotes - fortunes with sound ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Editor, The National Midnight Star <rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu> Subject: Administrivia For those of you keeping score, there was no NMS for either Thursday (7/4) or Friday (7/5). Also, read closely this issue, especially a certain post about the new album-to-be - it seems to be pretty interesting, and jives with information I'd previously gotten from another source. Here's to a fast arrival of 9/3! rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Jul 91 16:22:17 -0400 From: abramsc@knoc.dnet.dupont.com Subject: You know you're a Rush fan when.... You know you're a Rush fan when you go into the corporate mailroom and write "Rules" beside where it says "Rush" on every priority mailing envelope....(ahem, not that I've done this....yet...) cAm "...i'm walking around upside-down..." -- the Connells ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1991 15:31:26 CDT From: SRF6200@SUMMA.TAMU.EDU (Hactar) Subject: Release dates Well.....the dates are almost correct. Actually, HYF was officially released in September '87, although the single "Force 10" was first played about the third week of August. Also, I think Signals was released in August, not September of '82, since I seem to remember buying it a few weeks before classes began that Fall (usu. class starts in August for me.) Steve Fennell - Texas A&M University ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1991 16:52:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Gregory C Best <gbest@ATHENA.MIT.EDU> Subject: ..7...8...9...10 Ok. I see a trend towards random flaming, and I am going to try and dump some halon on it. This is nuts guys (<- not gender specific, I just can't bear "y'all"). This list was created for a certain purpose, and we are here to help fulfill it. If things go right, we all reap benefits. Each and every one us has a different viewpoint and a different style of presentation, and that is what makes such a list interesting. I'm here because I like to hear various opinions and interpretations of Rush and their work. You don't like Rush? Great! Tell me why. Just don't *itch at me (us) for subscribing to a list like this and voicing my (our) opinions. Every now and then something comes up that I really couldn't care less about. I SCROLL PAST IT. I guess what I am saying is this: *1) PLEASE don't stop doing things the way they are being done. That is why I am here. I don't want things bland. *2) Keep giving all opinions, but do it in a unobtrusive manner. You can tell when you are getting condescending or hostile. *3) If you must flame, seriously consider whether the rest of the list really needs to hear it. Just about everyone can be reached by personal e-mail and you can iron out differences that way. Don't just vent your emotion on the list- Most of us really won't feel chastised. *4) If things really get that bad, unsubscribe (send to rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu). No need to make a specticle and send a good ridence letter to the NMS- We'll just scroll past it. *5) Kudos to the rush-mgr for putting up with all of it, and not exercising his ability to censor. Finally- Too much time and space have been put into this already. If you have a disenting opinion or just feel like putting a torch to me do it at gbest@athena.mit.edu. Sorry it took so much space to say this, it'll be the last. "Be excelent to each other" -Greg ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1991 17:09 MST From: Roo-Dog Rip <D_DURRETT%KAOS@VAXF.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Rush quotes in "serious" work I used several quotes from Rush in papers written in college. A paper I wrote examining the growth of the isolationist movement in the US and the concurrent rise of facism/nationalism in Europe(at the same time as the pacifist movement was trying to ban all wars) quoted the last verse from "Witch Hunt", while a paper on theological perspectives of nuclear weapons/war quoted from "The Weapon." I am writing a vaguely autobiographical novel based on the theme of "Circumstances" and I'm certain my Ph.D. thesis will have a Rush quote in there somewhere. Maybe I need some other sources....naaaaaaah! Roo-Dog Rip ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ \Roo-Dog Rip is: <> "O! What a rogue and peasant slave am I!"/ \Derrell Durrett <> --- _Hamlet_ II. ii, 584 / \D_DURRETT@COLOPHYS.BITNET <> / \D_DURRETT%KAOS@VAXF.COLORADO.EDU <> High Energy Physics: The New Religion! / \Voice:(303)492-8713 <> Get Some Today! / \Fax:(303)492-5119|Msg:492-1228 <> / \-----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ \ High Energy Physics Group | University of Colorado | Boulder, Colorado, USA / vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Jul 91 19:14:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Philip M. Simon" <ps3q+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: rush cd bootleg don't pay more than 20 dollars for the bootleg that h.govin is trying to sell. i bought it for that much, and it is not that rare. not to offend you, horst, but you are charging way too much, and I cannot let fellow rush fans be robbed. just my thoughts phil ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Jul 91 20:39:43 EDT From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) Subject: more balls! I wrote <<I'm really interested in knowing if there is anything in _The Fountainhead_ which mentions balls specifically. I understand that Objectivism is fundamentally individualistic and that the balls are _individual balls_ but is that really grounds for saying that the balls were inspired by _The Fountainhead_ or Ayn Rand in any direct way?<< in response to Phil Simon's rather brashly presented claim that the three balls on the cover of _HYF_ were inspired by A.R. and _TF_. What I was looking for was a little _show_ to match Phil's _tell_. Phil responded >This posting is in answer to Gregg Jaeger's dismissal of the correlation >between the three balls on the HYF cover and Ayn Rand's The >Fountainhead. Anyone who has both read the book listens to Rush can not >ignore the direct allusion to the three distinct spherical objects as a >metaphor for individuality, independence, and egoism. I seem to recall >it being mentioned on about page 300. Let's not be holier-than-thou about Objectivism, please. I did not _dismiss_ the hypothesis that the three balls have a connection with _TF_ I was merely arguing against it in the face of the evidence which had so far appeared in TNMS. I have read the books of Ayn Rand and appreciate her ethical philosophy. I simply did not remember any such connection. Since several people in a recent posting claimed to remember the passage about three guilded balls, it seems likely that there is a connection between the balls and _TF_ -- though I'm not quite prepared to accept that they are ``a metaphor for individuality, independence, and egoism'' -- and what I'm looking for is definitive evidence of the connection (you know, a quote and a chapter or page). Furthermore, there may be, and it seems likely that there is, _more than one_ meaning that can be attributed to the balls. Phil goes on >Gregg claims that the three balls signify the three members of Rush, and >that is an ostensibly plausible theory. However, after reading The >Fountainhead, that theory was quickly dismissed in my mind. What's so implausible about it? I think Phil is dismissing the idea that the balls represent the band members too quickly. The _HYF_-tour rear-screen video (where the three balls pass by the albums of Rush) gives some support to the balls/band connection. There is no reason why the balls can't represent _two_ things. Paul May's post was much more enlightening (thanks, Paul.) >I've lent my copy of TF to a friend, so I can't quote exactly, but >there is a section >where one of the characters states that the symbol for Mankind should be >the 3 balls of a pawnbroker - the idea being that Mankind has pawned its >integrity to the highest bidder, and is satifying its short-term, >primitive needs, rather than investing for the future & doing what is >right & proper. This reply has substance to it and accords with the themes of _HYF_, ``Red Tide,'' ``Second Nature,'' ``Mission,'' and ``Prime Mover.'' Indeed, Paul goes on >There are other quotes in the book, which refer to Mankind's spirit of >adventure and curiosity. Ayn Rand calls the force which motivates these >impulses a 'Prime Mover'. The concept of a `Prime Mover' goes back to Aristotle where it has a much different meaning than in Rand, being rather the ultimate cause of the cause-and-effect chain of the universe. For an advocate of the power of the human and individual spirit, this is a nice twist on the original concept. The following is a quote from _TF_ [Ch. XVIII] (p.710 in the Macmillan 1986 hardcover printing) -- relevant to ``Mission'' -- it is Roark speaking: ``Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their own vision... the great creators -- the thinkers, the artists, the scientists, the inventors -- stood alone against the men of their time... His truth was his only motive. His own truth, and his own work to achieve it in his own way. A symphony, a philosophy, an airplane, or a building -- that was his goal and his life... The creation, not its users... The creation which gave form to his truth... His vision came from his own spirit... [The ego] is the whole secret of their power -- that it was self- sufficient, self-motivated, self-generated. A first cause, a fount of energy, a life force, a Prime Mover...'' ``[Man's] brain is his only weapon...'' Clearly ``Prime Mover'' and ``Mission'' have something substantial to do with Objectivism. I looked through _TF_ and wasn't able to locate the passage mentioned by Phil and Paul and others, but I found another interesting bit relevant to Rush (and the above mentioned ``weapon''?) from the opening paragraphs of chapter V: ``[Dominique] saw the faces streaming past her, the faces made alike by fear -- fear as a common denominator, fear of themselves, fear of all and of one another.'' These three forms of fear were always the way I believed the songs of the Fear Trilogy come together to form a whole: ``fear of themselves'' -- ``The Enemy Within,'' ``fear of all'' -- ``Witch Hunt,'' and ``fear of one another'' -- ``The Weapon.'' Pretty neat. Although these three parts of the trilogy contain other themes as well. So, can anybody find the location of the hiding balls? Gregg ----------------------------------- Gregg Jaeger (jaeger@buphy.bu.edu) ``Truth is after all a moving target'' Dept(s). of Physics (and Philosophy) Boston University, Boston MA 02215 ->>READ DOS PASSOS!(his books, i.e.)<<- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Schiller <chris@cdc.hp.com> Subject: Waaaah Waaaah Waaaah Date: Wed, 3 Jul 91 17:38:16 PDT > From: Phil Kime <pyubg@cu.warwick.ac.uk> > Please unsubscribe me. This digest has always been a little too religeous > anyway but whoever wrote the Ferrari crap in the FAQ wants killing. I know for With acknowledgement to the genius of Dana Carvey: Waaaaaaaaaah Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah In my day......they didn't have a National Midnight Star, Rush fans just played Rush as loud as they could and spit at each other. To get to concerts, we had to walk through the Toronto snow barefoot, uphill both ways, and WE LIKED IT! > a fact that there are many readers who gag when we get all these purile and > unecessary 'lyrical interpretation' pieces and only stay because occasionally In my day.....we didn't have cute little words like purile and lyrical, we had one Rush song, Working Man, and you listened to it over and over and the only thing you discussed was why there was nothing going on here, and WE LIKED IT! > there are interesting and useful bits of information that aren't just teenage > hero worship. I really like Rush, probably more than most people who read the > digest. However, they are not gods, Neil is not the last word on the problems > of the world etc. I get the feeling that this digest is doing a great job > of trying to put artificial meat on the bones of an interesting but limited > concept. Sure, why not give out scarce info on release dates, tour dates, In my day.....we didn't have artificial meat, we didn't have meat at all, we just had bones, and we didn't roll them, we gnawed them until our teeth fell out. And if we wanted an interesting but limited concept we just puked the whole mess up and ate it again, AND WE LIKED IT! > concert tracks listings etc. but all this 'well I think The Trees means this' > rubbish is gratuitous and very often infuriating (not just to me ---I know of > a considerable number of subscribers who only stay for the useful stuff). Just In my day.....when someone used phrases like "rubbish is gratuitous and very often" we just turned Rush up louder because it sounded like a "considerable number" of our parents. We didn't have "useful stuff" like weed, we smoked orange peels and coffee grinds, and WE LIKED IT! > keep all that crap to mail. Nobody really wants to hear a neo-romantic > interpretation of 2112 etc. In my day....we only had one philosopher, Ayn Rand, and we grabbed any neo-collectivist who called objectivists neo-romantics. We opened their mouth to try to see where all the drivel came from and found out we were looking in the wrong orifice. But we listened anyway because we were sub-juvenile Rush fans, and WE LIKED IT! Chris Schiller chris@cdc.hp.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Jul 91 21:06:12 EDT From: Todd Fantz <fantz@athena.cs.uga.edu> Subject: Re: 07/03/91 - The National Midnight Star #280 Three gilded balls. pg 314 1stprgh The Fountainhead/Signet I do not think it has anything to do with HYF at this point. tf ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Jul 91 21:39:42 EST From: Corum%USCN@uga.cc.uga.edu Subject: QR and Scott Rockenfield Scott R. -is- a nice chap, confirming Phil D. Croix's impression from that interview. Ultimately, by providing backstage passes to a friend of mine during their last tour (they met at a simple record-store signing session), Scott opened MANY doors to us. There isn't a "megaforce of lasers," nor will you see bunnies dance during "Tom Sawyer" (!), but if you like expert musicianship, top- notch singing, and a truly phenomenal video/concert interplay, go see Queensryche on their current tour. I saw the show two days ago and even with high expectations, I was still QUITE impressed. The video sequencing was stunning -- flawless timing, better even than (gasp) Rush's during the PRESTO tour. There are a number of familiar firms and names among the tour crew too (See Factor, et al.) "If you only see ONE concert this year.......you need to get out more often.." --And THIS show is a good one if you don't mind some intense guitar. :-) --Paul Pres., Int'l Michael Moorcock Apprec. Society corum@uscn.bitnet GEnie: P.CASHMAN Better the pride that resides In a citizen of the world Than the pride that divides When a colourful rag is unfurled ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Jul 91 21:18:02 -0600 From: habbinga@tramp.Colorado.EDU (erik habbinga) Subject: album release dates To the best of my knowledge, the missing album release dates are: ASOH January 1989 Presto November 1989 Chronicles September 1990 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik Habbinga habbinga@tramp.colorado.edu U-niversity of C-olorado between L-ongmont and A-rvada "Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Jul 91 13:24:36 -0400 From: ak901@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Andy Douglass) Subject: Bootleg questions G'day and happy 4th of July fellow Rushians! I just recieved access to some Rush bootlegs for a pretty good price. Most bootlegs run for over $30, but I found a place where I can pick them up for under $20. Last month I picked up these three: 1. Rushian Roulette (Holland 1979) 2. Temple of Syrinx (digitally improved version of the GUP vidio) 3. Red Stars of the Solar Federation (an identical version of the Exit...Stage Left video, static included, on CD, with the voic of Neil on a couple tracks discussing the meanings of certain songs. Not to rain on somebody's little rip-off crusade, it's not worth anything over $30 bucks, considering I've seen it in the import sections of many record stores around Cleveland for $22. I'd say it's the most common of Rush boots. Hell, it's not even a true bootleg!) All of these are available on CD. Anyway, I was just wondering if anybody owned one of these three: 1. Fly in the Night (US tour,1980 or 77, i can't remember) 2. Currently En Vogue (US 1978 tour) 3. Live Under Pressure (Pittsburgh 1984) I'll recieve these three in about 9 weeks. I was wondering if anyone else had them, how they sounded, what material was on them, etc... Please E-mail me if you have any info on these three, or any questions on the ones I already have. "We'd like to do a song from our Farewell to Kings album..." [Alex interupts with a little mexican guitar solo] "...It's a little Spanish song... It's called Closer to the Heart." -The Gedster. -- "Let us not go gently into the endless winter night..." -Rush (RED TIDE) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Jul 91 18:46:11 EDT From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) Subject: balls found Hi Everyone, Since yesterday's posting I have found the quote from _The Fountainhead_ containing the missing three balls. The following quotation is from Ch. X (p.321 in the Macmillan 1986 hardcover printing) -- it is Kent Lansing speaking: ``And what incidentally, do you think integrity is? The ability not to pick a watch out of your neighbor's pocket? No, it's not as easy as that. If that were all, I'd say ninety-five percent of humanity were honest, upright men. Only, as you can see, they aren't. Integrity is the ability to stand by an idea. That presupposes the ability to think. Thinking is something one doesn't borrow or pawn. And yet, if I were asked to choose a symbol for humanity as we know it, I wouldn't choose a cross nor an eagle nor a lion and unicorn. I'd choose three gilded balls.'' So it seems Paul was closest to the mark in his recollection. In this quotation the three guilded balls aren't a metaphor for ``individuality, independence, and egoism,'' but rather a symbol of _``humanity as we know it''_, which is not Objectivist perfect but rather the contrary. In fact the following lines from ``Second Nature'' seem the album's closest connection with the three gilded balls: ``Folks are basically decent/ Conventional wisdom would say But we read about the exceptions/ In the papers every day'' Now I don't mean to suggest that Rush are holding this as an ideal for human nature. I merely offer that the allusion, if intentional, suggests that the album is delving into various aspects of human nature _as it is_ rather than being a monument to Objectivism. Gregg ----------------------------------- Gregg Jaeger (jaeger@buphy.bu.edu) ``Truth is after all a moving target'' Dept(s). of Physics (and Philosophy) Boston University, Boston MA 02215 ->>READ DOS PASSOS!(his books, i.e.)<<- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Jul 91 08:24:43 -0400 From: abramsc@knoc.dnet.dupont.com Subject: "The Pass" just finished reading the (very nice) FAQL and the bit about "The Pass" intrigued me a little...it was the first time i had heard Neil's explanation, but i was wondering why he didn't mention the line, "Christ, what have you done?" in his explanation...(maybe he did somewhere else in the interview, i don't know)...well, i have heard (read) several interpretations of this line in the NMS and elsewhere, and some people think it has a deep historical/philosophical meaning, and others think it's just "strong language"... and then there's my opinion...i think it's both; i could see how using the example of any historical figure willingly dying as support for the song's theme, which is, if i understand Neil's explanation, choosing to die a "noble" death is far worse than choosing to live. Then again, it's easy to see how anyone close to someone who has committed suicide could cry out "Christ, what have you done?" But the line "Someone set a bad example" could directly point to Christ, since he is "named" in the song, but could very well point to anyone who has committed suicide...anyway, i think my rambling calls for some more thoughts and opinions of more insightful readers than myself...does anyone know of an interview where Neil refers to this line specifically? Please understand that I would rather not start a religous debate or anything...just another "song dissection"...(Rush fans have a religious debate? Scary...) Cam abramsc@knoc.dnet.dupont.com (summer) cfabrams@eos.ncsu.edu (anytime) "...you won't get by with the sleep still in your eyes, no matter what your dream might be..." ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Jul 91 10:31:58 EDT From: bsb2u@hagar2.acc.Virginia.EDU (Brian Samuel Bevins) Subject: SPARC audio files Just a quick question. Is it still possible to get those SPARC audio files that were at NIST for a while? If so, from where? [ If you do have them or can get to them, drop a line to me at the administrative address, please. :rush-mgr ] Thanks Brian bsb2u@virginia.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Jul 91 13:22:46 -0400 From: "Douglas G Schwabe" <cschwabe@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Subject: tidbits from the Faql Hope everyone had a great Fourth of July, also, Happy Belated Canada Day. speaking of Canada, Just listened to Kim Mitchell's "Go for Soda" on WDVE in Pgh. I get chills listening to that song, one reason because they play it every now and then here in PGH. Of course, that's the only song of Kim they play down here. It's a crying shame. Anyway, I came here to write about the FAQL. Greg, here is Anthem's address: Anthem Records Oak Manor P.O. 1000 Oak Ridges, Ontario Canada L0G 1P0 Eric, Geddy's birthday is JULY 29, not last Saturday (We forgive you, at least I do anyway :-) ). FYI, Alex's birthday is Aug 27 and Neil's Sept 12. Rush's address is in the FAQL, so if anyone is interested in sending cards to the boyz, knock your self out. August 3 is perfect night for a Rush Party in Pittsburgh. I am think about getting a party together in Toronto for the middle of August. I would love to meet some of the Canadian Rush/Max Webster/Kim Mitchell fans as well as some of the Buffalo fans. People from outside the area are invited to come up. Will let you know as soon a details are available. Doug "Get Lucky, Boys and Girls, put your face to the world" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 06 Jul 91 00:40 EDT From: MCS <MCS@carleton.ca> Subject: PERMANENT WAVES TEST PRESSING Hi, A friend of mine is selling off his record collection, and one of the things he's got for sale is an ORIGINAL "Permanent Waves" Test Pressing. It's in absolutely mint condition, serial number 4001 from P.R.C. Mastering Studio in Cambridge I think. At any rate, it's an unbelievably rare item that should belong in the home of a REAL rush fan and not some idiot "rare record dealer" that will mark it up to 400$. So if you would like to make an offer for it, please send email to me (MCS@CARLETON.CA) and I'll be sure to forward your offer to him. This is once in a lifetime folks. Take advantage of it. Till later... <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> | Neil Prasad | Carleton U. | Recycle paper, | | Mass Communication | MCS@CARLETON.CA | not music!! | <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ---------------------------------------------------------- From: dana@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Dana Borger) Subject: Three Gilded Balls Date: Sat, 6 Jul 91 12:27:40 EDT The elusive quote concerning the gilded balls occurs in Part II, Chapter 10 (pg 314 of the Signet paperback edition) of _The Fountainhead_. The "contextless" quote: ------ [Ken Lansing speaking to Howard Roark] "'...Integrity is the ability to stand by an idea. That presupposes an ability to think. Thinking is something one doesn't borrow or pawn. And yet, if I were asked to choose a symbol for humanity as we know it, I wouldn't choose a cross nor an eagle nor a lion and unicorn. I'd choose three gilded balls.'" ------ I say "contextless" because this quote is only a small part of a larger discussion, one worth reading (but not typing by me!) to get the full meaning. Dana "Love and Life are deep Maybe as his eyes are wide" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: atz@clmqt.marquette.MI.US (dweezilbub) Subject: You know you're a RUSH fan... Date: 6 Jul 91 15:39:54 EDT (Sat) when your private shell directory has 25 files in it, and doing a rm RUSH* would erase all of them! Yabba Dabba -- \_._____._____._____. ==== ==== ===== .____._____.___.___/ \__The Enterprise BBS == == == ,===~ This space for rent!__/ __-__________-__ ==~~== == ===== ____-_____-___-__ \ \ \atz@clmqt.marquette.mi.us/ / / / ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 6 Jul 91 17:41:27 EDT From: jay@masig3.ocean.fsu.edu (Jay Shriver) Subject: record label change why, after many successful years with Mercury-Polygram records did Rush change to Atlantic records? Where they dropped by Mercury-Polygram (not likely) or did Atlantic just offer them a better deal? I'm suprised that M-P would let a band that has been as successful as Rush move to another label. ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Radio Show, Alex and Geddy nerds? and Computer Music Date: Sat, 06 Jul 91 21:54:38 -0400 From: "Chris Webster" <cwebster@rodan.acs.syr.edu> One of the local radio stations, 95X, is presently playing a holiday program called the Spirit of Rush. They've said it's a satelite show, but I doubt that it's being done nationwide as I type this. I'm just wondering if this particular show has been done before. In case it's not in the archives, I'm taping it, but I've already lost some of the announcers' parts because they cut ends of songs short. Also, it's the first time I've heard Alex and Geddys' voices. (Neil hasn't spoken yet. :[ ) When hearing their voices for the first time, did anyone else think they sounded like the classic nerd stereotype? (Boy, am I glad I witnessed them in concert before hearing this....) Also, in case anyone's into PC music, I've come across two .rol format songs by rush. One's the Spirit of Radio, and I'm not quite sure what the other is. Neither one is the band itself playing, but instead is an imitator playing a single keyboard. I have an Soundblaster card for my PC, and I've gotten the software to play this particular format on it from an ftp site. If anyone wants more info, email me. -Chris Webster Bitnet:cwebster@sunrise Internet:cwebster@rodan.acs.syr.edu Cit-86 net:"Chris Webster"@UCC [Utica College Citadel] Smail: 108 Trinity Pl; Syracuse, NY 13210 AT&T net: (315)-423-3565 _____________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1991 16:05 EST From: KROHN@UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU Subject: Didacts and Narpets, and COS album Ok, just a few questions about COS an Didacts and Narpets: 1) Concerning the title, someone awhile back said that didacts were teachers and narpet is an anagram for N. Peart. Aren't didacts also addicts (another anagram). Just an observation. 2) I just picked up a copy of COS on record and it has all the lyrics on the inside cover (the album opens up). Considering that no one seems to know the correct lyrics to Didacts and Narpets and this album has them on the inside, is this album something of value? Just curious. 3) The lyrics (or lyric) to Didacts and Narpets, by the way is "Listen..." Please excuse me if this has alredy been said, but last I checked this was still up in the air. Later all. ****************************************************************************** R U S H "There is tic toc in atomic R U S H Leaders make a deal R U S H Cosmic is largly comic R U S H A con they couldn't conceal." ****************************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 7 July 1991 23:02:48 CDT From: "RUSH HEAD " <U24129@UICVM.uic.edu> Subject: U KNOW U'R A RUSH FAN.../NEW ALBUM UPDATE! Hello to all those out in RUSHLAND. You know you're a RUSH FAN when..... You ask your parents to buy you a Hemispheres gold record award as one of your Grad. gifts. Now onto a topic you've all been waiting for.: News on ROLL THE BONES! The album is all finished. It contains 10 tracks, one of which will be an instrumental. The release date (which still has to be confirmed) is set for Sept. 3, 1991. The tour will probably start around the first week of November. They are booking dates around the Northeast U.S. Howard Ungerleighter, the production manager will be designing the light show but will not be touring with the band this tour. He is currently on the road with Queensryche and that tour will last until at least Jan. And afterwards will be touring with Tesla. The cover of the album: (drum roll please): A kid kicking a skull down the road. (this again is a rumour and still has to be confirmed). So far I have 3 song titles from the upcomming album. They are: 1. Roll The Bones (title track) 2. Dreamline (which should be the first single) 3. Where's my thing? Part IV. The gangster of boats trilogy. (this should be the new long awaited for INSTRUMENTAL). WHAT A TITLE EH? maybe another one of Alex's Dreams? thats it for now, I should have the other 7 titles by the end of the week, will definitely keep all of you informed. Have fun waiting for the new album. :) [ Yeah, but I knew this... heh heh heh :rush-mgr ] RUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSH P Internet:U24129@uicvm.uic.edu P - Patster Bitnet: U24129@uicvm.bitnet - G Genie: P.Choy G P P - OBRQ: "Memory banks unloading, bytes break into bits - G unit one's in trouble, and its scared out of its wits" G RUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSHRUSH ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Bootlegs Date: Mon, 08 Jul 91 12:23:33 N From: Gordon MacKinney <gordon@hpbblb.bbn.hp.com> I've noticed a number of references to bootleg albums recently, as well as an occasional boot auction over the net. Everyone should make their own decision regarding the right or wrong of bootlegs, but in the interest of making informed decisions, people should be aware that bootleg recordings take money from the artists who earn it. One might argue that only the record companies suffer, but everything trickles down, either to the normal consumer who compensates for pirated material or to the artist who never sees bootleg revenue. A recent Time magazine article cited Frank Zappa's frustration at 400 different Zappa bootlegs that are on the market. It's ironic to see some contributors to TNMS promoting bootlegging while at the same time supporting the band with their postings. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Jul 91 09:46:52 EST From: joezete@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter John Chestna) Subject: back to school hey, for any of you interested, I was watching Back To School w/Rodney Dangerfield and in the scene where his interogated by his teachers, the english teacher has him recite none other than "Do Not Go Gently Into That Good Night". I was almost asleep at the time, but as soon as I recognized I sat up in my chair with a big F***ing smile on my face. Amazing the things that can get your attention. Pete ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Jul 91 15:27:00 EDT From: Doug White <dwhite@dsys.ncsl.nist.gov> Subject: Rush quotes - fortunes with sound Here's a nifty toy that I was diddling around with last Wed. afternoon (waiting for July 4th 4-day weekend). I forget who I got it from, but I took that Rush quote fortune script and mutated it into something that can either cat the quote (lyrics) or play the appropriate sparc sound file, or do both. I've got the text/quote/lyric part running okay, and all I need to do now is get ahold of the particular sound bites to go with the words. That's the neat part about this - you can add the audio piece by piece as you get it. (Anybody got a recording of Geddy singing "Catch the fish" ??? ;-) Anywho, if you want it, or want more info, lemme know! Doug ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Douglas White, National Institute of Standards & Technology Bldg. 225, Rm A216, Gaithersburg, MD 20899 dwhite@dsys.ncsl.nist.gov / Voice: (301) 975-2182 / FAX: (301) 590-0932 "...Preacher on a corner, callin' it a crime - says 'The end don't jusify the means anytime.' I stood up on van, I yelled 'Excuse me, sir, there ain't nothin' wrong with this country a few plastic explosives wont cure!' " Steve Taylor, _I_Blew_Up_the_Clinic_Real_Good_ ----------------------------------------------------------
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