The National Midnight Star #225

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 04/26/91 - The National Midnight Star #225
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 225 Friday, 26 April 1991 Today's Topics: server@ingr.com RE: 04/25/91 - The National Midnight Star #224 God Bless Neil Peart A chill down my spine! Re: 04/24/91 - The National Midnight Star #223 Re: Gary Lee Weinrib Re: 04/25/91 - The National Midnight Star #224 Synths and stuff Camera Eye phrases & "headphones trick" Alex's Sounds and Equipment NOT a flame Univ. of Toronto NMS readers, I need you help Re: 04/23/91 - The National Midnight Star #222 Re: Headphone (and speaker) trick ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: server@ingr.com Date: Thu, 25 Apr 91 15:18:37 CDT From: keith@dragon.b23b.ingr.com (Keith Ford) Hello fellow fans. First I would like to publicly thank the rush-mgr for what he does. I think he is doing an outstanding job getting TNMS out, despite the computer headaches that I know he is having. Hats off to ya David. Second, if you have had trouble with the email archive server running at ingr.com, please send mail to server@ingr.com with a subject of MESSAGE. This will make it available for me to read. As keeper of the server, you can email me directly using my .sig info, but I prefer the afore mentioned method. -- __ fordke@ingr.com, ...!uunet!ingr!{fordke,infonode!umagic!sysop} / \ Micro Magic BBS 1:373/12 (205)830-2362 \__/ home of OCAT/OBUL/OASWAP running Opus+DV+UFgate+X00 [__] "He knows changes aren't permanent, but change is" -Rush ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1991 18:00:10 CDT From: IEB4826@ZEUS.TAMU.EDU Subject: RE: 04/25/91 - The National Midnight Star #224 Please, please, please UNSUBCRIBE me from this list... (ieb4826@zeus.tamu.edu) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Apr 91 19:09:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Philip M. Simon" <ps3q+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: God Bless Neil Peart Yet another first time poster, but not reader. I have listened to the various arguments regarding Neil Peart (i.e. best drummer or not) in recent issues. Someone very articularly said that it was impossible to determine the absolute best drummer since the comparisons would be many and complicated. Nevertheless, anyone who knows anything about drumming would regard Peart as one of the best, and I, the die hard Rush fan that I am, can deal with that. I would like to speak of The Professor in a somewhat different light, however. I would like to argue that Neil Peart was the savior of the group Rush. Do not get me wrong, I am not intending in anyway to discredit the musical abilities of Geddy or Alex. Conversely, I happen to think they are among the best at what they do. I am just maintaining that if it weren't for the arrival of Neil, Rush would not be considered the great rock group that they are today and no doubt will be a damn long time. After I read "Visions", it became really apparent that Ged and Alex's talents do not lie in writing lyrics. One need only to listen to the rather primitive words on Rush's first album to recognize that Rush was in need of someone with more lyrical creativity. Along came Neil, and the rest is history. Look at the evolution/progression of Rush. The lyrics have gotten increasingly more complex, profound, and generally better. Also, with the burden of composing lyrics off their backs, Ged and Alex could and have been able to concentrate more fully on just writing great music. Once again, if it weren't for the presence of The Professor, I highly doubt that Rush would have lasted, let alone been as popular, as they have become. God Bless Neil. flames are welcome, but not encouraged. [ No they're NOT welcome, but that's old hat by now... 1/2 :-) :rush-mgr ] Phil Simon "A rush is a good vibe." Geddy Lee ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Apr 91 20:29:28 -0400 From: Michael S Savett <savvy@chopin.udel.edu> Subject: A chill down my spine! I was walking back from work yesterday along the "Beach" here at UDelaware (does every school have a beach? :^) and from a distance I see a band in front of my dormitory playing "Presto." I dropped my books, spun myself around a couple of times, pinched myself, and smacked myself upside the head before realizing that this was REAL! I ran closer, and saw about 100 people cheering on the band...and they were pretty good, too. That was the only Rush song they did, but it was the first song they played! Needless to say, I was singing along (much the surprise of the Top-40 crowd, astonished that I knew the words to this song!) and it made my day. In front of MY building,too...I can't believe it... Savvy ORQ: "I think I'm going bald." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Roger Swanson <rswanson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: 04/24/91 - The National Midnight Star #223 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 91 19:48:30 CDT Ya sayed: > Note to Rush mgr: If the following is inappropriate, please remove it. > > [ This is a tough one. The Jethro Tull moderator had this same question > (Hi, Roger) a couple of weeks back. I'd prefer not to turn the NMS into > a classified section, but occasional notes of this type aren't too bad. > Please keep any replies to email. If you have problems reaching someone, > drop me a line at the administrative address and I'll help you out. > :rush-mgr ] > Hi! Actually, I've kinda changed my mind on this subject. I think the idea of a "Cleve classifieds" issue would be kinda neat. Of course, it's kinda late for me to implement it :-). I paased along my opinion to Dave, but it's up to him as to what he does. I'm not sure that there would even be enough interest in posting to it, but I think it's worth a try. Especially when Dave said he was thinking of possibly some weekend issues. (In terms of NMS, I think there might be too many people subscribing to make it managable). Speaking of questionable posts, I WOULDN'T have allowed the flame later in this issue. There's no reason for this type of thing, and it just leads to more flames, as in the next issue. Although I never received any, my policy on flames was to nix the posting, send the person who sent it a warning message that this wasn't allowed, and if they posted something like this again, they would be removed from the subscribers list. As you yourself noted, this policy is clearly stated in the first message that you send people. They should know better. If we wanted to read flames, we'd read rec.music.misc! :-) Well, that's my 2/100's of $1 worth. BTW, what'd you think of the transition of management on the Cleve. I couldn't have asked for a smoother switch-over! Oh well, gotta go! Later, Rog [ For those of you confused by Roger's post, he was (until a day or two ago) the moderator of the Jethro Tull mailing list, The St. Cleve Chronicle. (If you're interested in joining, send mail to: jtull-request@remus.rutgers.edu Roger has a point, and outright flames with no other content will be squelched, and you can expect mail from me. With any luck, I'll never have to do that. :rush-mgr ] -- \/Roger Swanson /\ To subscribe to the Jethro Tull \/ /\Internet: rswanson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu \/ mailing list, send a message to: /\ \/Bitnet: swanson@uiucvmd.bitnet /\ jtull-request@remus.rutgers.edu \/ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1991 19:25:33 PDT From: crenshaw.osbu_north@xerox.com Subject: Re: Gary Lee Weinrib Actually, I was just perusing my Presto tourbook the other day and noticed in Geddy's little blurb mention of a "N. Young and Julian W." which sounds to me like Nancy Young, his wife, and Julian (could it be...Weinrib?)...his son. Admittedly, this is still guesswork, but it is from Geddy's own mouth...er, hand. I'm tempted to go along with the Weinrib story... Cheryl ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Apr 91 01:06:51 EDT From: mike <H97SI@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: Re: 04/25/91 - The National Midnight Star #224 hello, i would thourghly like to thank kerry yankoboski for confirming the fact that geddy lee is in fact GARY WEINRIB!!!!!!!!!!!!!! considering the fact that it was i who first brought this to light, and that i feel totally justified all i would like to say is phfhth............ ...UNTIL LATER... mike p.s. but still, who is alan weinrib? $10.00 to anyone who can tell me. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1991 01:29 EDT From: GYORGY <S3SIJDP%SAE.TOWSON.EDU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: Synths and stuff Hello all, I just want to point out that synthesizers were not originally made with keyboards attached. Keyboards were added later because they were the most _convenient_ way of control. Synths are NOT keyboard instruments. This stereotype is what hold musicians back from realizing the ultimate possibilities of what they can do. A keyboard is a keyboard, a guitar is a guitar, and a synth is fair game for anyone who can make it go. (sorry Mr. Moschop) Bye, -Charles Grogan ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Apr 91 02:50:42 -0500 From: toronto@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (James Moseley) Subject: Camera Eye phrases & "headphones trick" Sorry about yesterday's posting. Something happened and only the second part of my posting was sent. Anyway, the phrases at about 8:53 (on CD) in the Camera Eye are: "Hello..." "Good morning guv." Guv being short for governor. Governor is an English greeting similar to sir. Hope that helps all of you trying to figure those lines out! Now to the headphones trick. About two weeks ago, I accidentally discovered this. To get into the trick mode, twist or pull on the headphones' plug until you get a funky sort of sound. When you move the balance to the left, the left channel comes through both sides of the phones, the same for the right. Now what's really weird is when you move the balance to the center. Yes, the sound is in mono (both channels coming through both sides), but somehow the signal gets passed through some kind of filter. This filter cuts most of the lows. The bass guitar,bass pedals, and most of the lower toned drums are cut. The vocals too are really distorted. They sound as if you were standing outside an arena listening to someone singing through a mike on the inside. But all the guitar and keyboards come through with detail. Sounds complicated doesn't it? Anyway, for those trying to figure out a certain guitar or background keyboards part, try doing this. No, doing this does remove any tracks, but some specific frequencies are cut. After reading NMS #223, I broke out my phones to figure all this out. Hope it clears things up. Later, James Moseley (toronto@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu) ORQ: "For you the blind who once could see, the bell tolls for thee..." ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Apr 91 08:55:00 EST Subject: Alex's Sounds and Equipment From: DSchmidt.311@postman.gsfc.nasa.gov! I would love to learn more about Alex's gear, and how he creates his sounds. The interview with Alex in the May issue of Guitar for the Practicing Musician does mention some details about his equipment. It also has alot of interesting little tidbits (like: he tunes his guitar up to F# for "The Big Money" -Ah! I was right, I played it with a capo in the second fret. It's the *only* way to get those harmonics that he plays.) Dave Schmidt ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Apr 91 09:42:14 -0500 From: rjf@maxwell.physics.purdue.edu (Robert J. Friedman III) Subject: NOT a flame Good day, eh? Well, if I knew we were going to spark so much trouble I probably would have let guitar synth bashing slide, but I had some spare time and... Anyway, maybe I got a little out of hand with that "technique sucking" comment, but in general I agree with my brother's last post--I was almost entirely civil (actually questionable as a flame). (BTW rush-mgr. , I think you would be quite suprised by my playing {thanks Mark}). The real reason I'm posting today has to do with Rush and flames in general. Mossy's comment on not expecting a Rush fan to make such comments as we did got me thinking. It seems like every time somebody produces a flame or an unpopular opinion the inevitable "I would have expected more from a Rush fan." soon follows. Rush is a fantastic band, but just because we are fans does that elevate us above humanity. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we are all people--not demigods. We al have quite different backgrounds. And quite frankly I've met more of my fair share of Rush fans who are complete jerks (AND a plethora of truly wonderful ones--like this list). Mossy, I'm not putting you down personally (nor was that my intent in my original posting). I'm just responding to some things that you've said recently but have been said many times before (I just picked now to speak up). I really enjoy your contributions to this list. They add quite a bit of colour to it--keep 'em coming. Heck, I really enjoy this list, otherwise I wouldn't be as active on it. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Rush fans are going to dissagree about a lot of things, but we all agree about one thing. Rush is a great band and we'll always enjoy their music! [ I *welcome* disagreement - it's a good way to open one's mind. It's the method that makes the difference. :rush-mgr ] Anxiously awaiting the new album, -Bob Friedman "Growing up it all seemed so one-sided Opinions all provided... "-Well... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Apr 91 10:45:31 -0400 From: "Douglas G Schwabe" <cschwabe@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Subject: Univ. of Toronto NMS readers, I need you help A friend of mine lives in Toronto and wants to use you 2400 baud modem to send e-mail to me. What is the number for the modem and once she's in can she send mail through internet? I will be posting the results of the cassette poll Monday or Tuesday so Keep those lists coming please!!! Another thing: GET OFF OF EDDIE VAN HALEN'S BACK!!!!!!!!! Still Another thing: Watch out Bruins, here comes the Penguins!!! Even Another thing: Look out Toronto, there's a Rocket headed your way!! Douglas Schwabe "And Ladies and Gentlemen, ELVIS HAS JUST LEFT THE BUILDING!!!!" Mike Lange, Voice of the Pittsburgh Penguins after Mark Recchi's empty-net goal sealed the Patrick Division playoff title. Go Stars!!!!!!!!!! ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: 04/23/91 - The National Midnight Star #222 From: dave.bbs@shark.cs.fau.edu (David Edward Weiss) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 91 11:31:35 EDT > From: Mark "Crimson" Friedman <friedman@cis.ohio-state.edu> > Subject: Re: Guitar Synths + other stuff > > ]I have played a Guitar synth in the past and have found them awkward > ]to play well due to the fact that the synth will convert any sound > ]into a synthy noise.~S[] > > Heh! Errr, pardon my ignorance, but isn't that the whole *POINT*?!?!?! > > Cryminee... > - Crimson i think it is the whole point. ask Adrain Belew or Robert Fripp, or just listen to their music. > > Oh, and I believe my brother will be posting a similar message! > Take it away Bob... is this last line a quote from Frank Zappa's "Freaks"? it sounds like it, when they go into the Bob Dylan impersonation. > +----====>>>))) Mark Friedman is friedman@cis.ohio-state.edu (((<<<====----+ > From: UK04243@ukpr.uky.edu > Subject: Neil on his 'Witch Hunt' > > In NMS#219, Mark@dusk.b23b.ingr.com writes; > > >what is said at the very beginning of "Witch Hunt"? > >there is some murmuring, and it sounds kinda like: > >"[can't figure it out].... Rush in Ft. Lauderdale" > >am i close? > > > > The part that you think is 'Ft. Lauderdale' is the main part I couldn't > >figure out. If I stick 'Ft. Lauderdale' into what I think is said, here's > >what I get: > > > > "It's time for us to stand up to Ft. Lauderdale. this might actually make sense. there was a *slight* riot in Ft. Lauderdale at the Sunrise Musical Theatre in 1981 when they came down. Neil's plane was late or something, and the crowd threw a fit. they refused to play before a riotous crowd, and swore they would never play that place again, even if it is acoustically perfect. instead, they played the Hollywood Sportitorium [the DISTORTAtorium] until it was destroyed [humanely] after the 1988 tour. now they play the Miami Arena, which is nicer and newer, and set only blocks from where the Overtown Riots take place. :-) i hope this helps someone. > > We've got to protect our children!" i agree. from censorship. dangerous dave (i bought "2 Live Crew", are you going to arrest me?) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- why don't piranha attack [insert your favorite religious/ethnic/racial group here] lawyers? professional courtesy! purity test score results: 17.3% (12/90) 1,000 ques. version weissd@tuna.cs.fau.edu (UNIX site, Gary Moore fan club address) dave.bbs@shark.cs.fau.edu (discrete, datsicily) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ---------------------------------------------------------- From: weave@brahms.udel.edu (Ken Weaverling) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1991 12:47:10 EDT Subject: Re: Headphone (and speaker) trick On 24 Apr 91 18:29 -0500, yackob@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca writes in NMS #224.. KY> by inserting the plug just far enough it's possible that the plug ring KY> and the plug tip are connected to the jack "left" and jack "right" KY> contacts, and the sound that is heard is then the *difference* between KY> 2 channels. I learned this trick using speakers years ago. You can get a second pair of speakers, place them behind you, wire them *wrong*, and you get the canceled out sound behind you. Sounded awesome when watching stereo TV and movies. Trouble is, I forget how I did it. I read it in a Stereo mag about a decade ago and used it for years until I got divorced. I do remember being afraid that I'd damage the speakers cause they were connected *wrong*. I do remember it was wired in a triangluar fashion. As in one wire from amp to rear speaker. Then from one rear speaker to other, then back to amp. I just don't remember the polarities.... [ Since this was discussed at some length a while ago here, I'll include pieces of old digests which are pertinent: ] From: orwant@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Jonathan L. Orwant) (NMS #176) Twist or tie your two ground (black) speaker wires together instead of having them receive input from the amp. Each speaker then gets the difference of the right and left tracks. From: Brad Armstrong <71161.1313@CompuServe.COM> (NMS #178) Jon describes a method for "eliminate" Geddy's singing, by connecting the two speaker ground wires together. This will produce a differencing between the left and right tracks as indicated, but is hard on your amplifier. If you decide to do this, make sure your amp is up to it and don't run at anything more than a low level. Also, make sure the amp is off when you change this type of wiring in any way or you may lose an output transistor or two. Hooking the speakers up in series, as described, can put a difficult load on the amp, but don't try to get cute and hook up both speakers in parallel. This is another easy way to fry transistors. Using just one of your two speakers is preferable to hooking up both as described. Simply hook each of the two leads from one speaker to the opposing positive terminals (left + and right +). The same warnings from above apply. This configuration can be used to get a surround sound channel for your stereo. This really works well, but you have to be careful. I can describe this, and the logic behind it, to anyone with an interest in inexpensive surround sound. [ DISCLAIMER: I take no responsibility if you fry your equipment, your belongings, dwelling, or yourself using the above technique. But, if you discover any deep secrets, let us in on 'em! :-) :rush-mgr ] ----------------------------------------------------------
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