The National Midnight Star #221

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 04/22/91 - The National Midnight Star #221
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 221 Monday, 22 April 1991 Today's Topics: Administrivia Mystery Science Theater 3000 Unsubcribe Opening songs, beginning of "Time Stand Still" Tom Sawyer Mr Big with Rush Guitar Synths + other stuff Geddy's Steinberger + FM ( the band ) Big Nick's Beer Binges T.C. Broonsey LATEST NEWS ON NEW ALBUM!!! 04/19/91 - The National Midnight Star #220 ** Special Edition ** Marillion Progressive Rock Mailing List Ayn Rand Eraser Head the robert plant school of diction (none) How to get Neil in your house real cheap! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Editor, The National Midnight Star Subject: Administrivia This is just a reminder to all you considering uploading files to the incoming ftp directory that Syrinx is a bit tight on disk space. I am still in the process of getting rid of issues 1-100 (maybe 1-200), and moving them to another site with some availability. (This means that there will be some sort of automatic retrieval method in place.) I will also be moving them to another computer at my site, but they will not be as accessible there. As always, they are on the mail server at Ingr until we hear otherwise. Still, until this is done, there is not much disk to play with. PLEASE refrain from uploading any sound files, as they tend to be quite large. There is one sound file currently available, but it is too big to go out in mail from Ingr, and I can't make it available until I get more disk or clear some space on the current one. If and when sound files are available, I'll post a big announcement here. In the images arena, there are soon going to be quite a few more coming in to the images directory, thanks to our co-founder, Jimmy. There's about ten or so files I'm awaiting a description of which will be available soon. And, on a non-Rush note, the Yes show Friday night was *incredible*! I swear Rick Wakeman has about 14 fingers... A must see for any 70's pomp- rock fan. High point: "Heart of the Sunrise"; low point: No "Starship Trooper." :-( It should hold me over until this fall sometime... :-) rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91 15:53:05 EST From: DT7RSANU%MIAMIU.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Subject: Mystery Science Theater 3000 Speaking of Mystery Science Theater 3000... There is an allusion to Rush in every show. The gumball machine robot is named Tom Servo. (For those robot illiterates, a 'servo' is a type of feedback device used in closed loop robotic systems.) 'Servo' was substituted, quite obviously, to disguise a very clever allusion to Rush: Tom Sawyer. It fits the context exceptionally well... [ Umm, not to say I don't believe you, but what sort of proof/evidence do you have to back this up? I've seen many (~15) MST3K shows, and only one Rush reference in them all. :rush-mgr ] -- Miami is in Ohio, dammit! ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1991 17:13:09 CDT From: IEB4826@SUMMA.TAMU.EDU Subject: Unsubcribe Powers That Be: Please unsubscribe me from rush_mailing_list.deal. Off... I.E.Bou-saada (ieb4826@zeus.tamu.edu) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91 19:48 CST From: Blue Steel <UCSKRT@ucs.UWPLATT.EDU> Subject: Opening songs, beginning of "Time Stand Still" >Finally, about the Rush openers: my brother and friends got >this one. Rush always opened the live shows with the first >song off the _third_ album of the four that made up a live album. >So, Bastille Day for ATWAS, Spirit of Radio for ESL, and finally, >The Big Money for ASOH. My brother predicted The Big Money >would be the opener before it actually was. Yeah, but on the Presto tour, they opened up with "Force 10" at Alpine Valley, which is off the fourth album of the last live release. My guess is that they simply go with good, strong, opening songs, like every other band does. I posted this question a while back, with no response. At the very beginning of "Time Stand Still," with the first guitar notes, there appears to be a nasty droning sound underneath, like a bad taping or mixing job. Anybody else notice it? Any comments? One last question regarding the song "Distant Early Warning." Someone(s) analyzed the lyrics not too long ago here. My question: can you find parallels between Neil's lyrics and the video for that tune? My hunch is that they just decided to have fun with it, having aliens pick up Geddy's son Julian and send him off on a ride through the countryside on a missle. Doesn't seem nearly as serious as the song itself. Question for a friend: Anybody with info on a new U2 release? Mail me personally, please. Also, when I tried to send to the address posted for a Queensryche list, it bounced from their site. Anybody else with a lead on this, or was it all a myth to begin with? ================================================================================ Kevin Tipple, aka Blue Steel, By-tor University of Wisconsin - Platteville Bitnet: ucskrt@uwplatt.bitnet Platteville, Wisconsin USA Internet: ucskrt@uwplatt.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Do you actually have any cheese in this shop? If you say no, I'll have to shoot you." - Monty Python ================================================================================ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91 21:31:06 EDT From: William_MacDonald@mts.rpi.edu Subject: Tom Sawyer Hello there! Someone in the last posting (I can't remember who) asked if any hard core Rush fans actually have Tom Sawyer as their favorite song. Let me just say that, since I started to really get into Rush about 2 1/2 years ago, I have obtained all of their albums on cassette, 4 on CD, 5 posters, the autobiography *Visions*, various pictures and tour books, two shirts, 4 of the 5 videocassettes, 5 or 6 bootlegs, and waited in line overnight for Rush tix on their previous tour. Is this hard core enough? I'd like to add that my favorite song is Tom Sawyer...in fact, T.S. got me started into Rush. Is it so wrong that a catchy song becomes one's favorite? I don't think so. And the song isn't *just* catchy...it has some really deep lyrics...it is a powerful song. I guess what I am trying to say is that we all have different tastes....later all! William MacDonald "...he knows changes aren't permanent...but change is..." Rush, MP (1981) ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Mr Big with Rush Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91 11:31:23 WET From: Moschops <M.ODonnell@computing-services.thames.ac.uk> Hey gang, Does anybody who saw the guy's on the Last tour ( Presto ) remember the support group . Mr Big. Well if you were there, did the guitarist from Mr big come ouy ( sorry out ) to play the encore ( IN the Mood ) with Alex? I was reading an Interview with Paul Gilbert ( Mr Big ) in Guitar World, where he waqs saying that it was one of the hairiest moments in his life . as he walked on stage ( This was a surprise for the guy's as they were not expecting him to come on ) But It went well. [ This must have been in one of the first cities on the tour - they did this at many of the shows on the Presto tour, with other Mr. Big members also. :rush-mgr ] Mossy ===== Anytime things appear to be going better, you have overlooked something. ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Guitar Synths + other stuff Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91 14:55:34 WET From: Moschops <M.ODonnell@computing-services.thames.ac.uk> Hey Dudes, About the Guitar synth subject- To Quote Edward Van Halen - A synth is a synth, a guitar is something else - Why bast***ise the guitar ( Well .. something like that ) I have played a Guitar synth in the past and have found them awkward to play well due to the fact that the synth will convert any sound into a synthy noise.~S[] You cannot kill time without injuring eternity. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91 15:55:34 WET From: Moschops <M.ODonnell@computing-services.thames.ac.uk> Subject: Geddy's Steinberger + FM ( the band ) Hey, As far as I know Geddy has the very first production Steinberger headless bass. Though what he is using now , I have no idea of. AS for FM. There was a brit band called FM, but I believe that they have now spilt up Find it hard to believe that Marillion were booed off the stagge when they supported Rush - The fans must have been in a bad mood that night. Also, Neil is *not* the best drummist in the world. His drumming suits Rush right down to the ground, but there are better drummers than him. If you want to listen to some try - Dave Weckl - Chick Corea Band and Mark Collins - ( Sorry for the plug - He plays in my band ) Don't Flame me for this - I do like Neil's playing, but I think he should change the solo he does ( He has been playing it for years ) As for the other guys. Geddy is one of the most awesome Bass players in the business. There are better soloists than Alex, but at chords and atmospheric stuff, he is one of the best. Well thats my $0.02 for the day. BTW , Hi to Chris Marshall at Hatfield - When will we have this Jam? Later Dudes Mossy ===== Quote From "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" "Ted...In time i am sure that Wyld Stallyns will be most triumphant." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rotem@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Rotem A Elgavish) Subject: Big Nick's Beer Binges Date: Sat, 20 Apr 91 1:36:40 EDT > I am a bit trashed, and listening to Oingo-Boingo, so I felt that it > would be a wonderful time to post to the Rush board... > Let's go for the stream of conciousness effect (Spelling optional...) > > Rush is an awesome band. "Singer/Screamer" Geddy Lee deserves far > more credit from folks than he gets. So his voice can be compared to > the squeals of a toutured squirl. Some of us LIKE tortured squirls. In > a metaphysical sense, of course. Speaking of squirls, has anyone > noticed how much geddy looks like one on the, um, Hold your Fire tape > jacket? > > Alex rocks. > > Neil! What the hell can you say about Neil? You're a trip! I think we should start a new tradition.. get really trashed and post to the NMS, that should make for some interesting interpretations of songs. And yeah.. Geddy Lee is sort of a cross between a tortured squirrel and Vincent on the show "Beauty and the Beast" !!" > By the way, those of you who listen to nothing but Rush are missing > out on a lot of good music. Take it from someone who did the same thing > all the way through High School. Beavercreek high school. What a lousy > name. Anyway, there is a lot of music out there that is not the same as > Rush that is JUST AS GOOD. not the same. not a replacement. But GREAT > STUFF. Take Oingo Boingo (i see the flames now) Those of us who listen to Rush nonstop are the wisest of us all for Rush is the essence of musical purity in the universe. Ohhh... without Rush the universe would collapse, the planets would decay in their orbits.. The universe would fall into utter chaos.. thou has't commithed heresy :-) BTW: And as for Oingo Boingo..oh..nevermind.. they don't deserve any flames.. Later... (Vive Le RUSH!!) Ro ( and my drunken sidekick - Mark) A BTW: Its my birthday this week and my drunken sidekick's too! oh.. you don't have to wish us happy birthday or anything.. just send us some Rush CDs or something.. Yabba Dabba BTW: Incase you do want to wish us happy birthday or get ouro address so you can send packages, money, or your girlfriends.. We're sick of ours.. (sorry, but Hopkins women just DON'T CUT IT - among other things they don't do!) RO: Rotem@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Drunken Sidekick (Mark) Tram@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Scooby Dooby BTW: Yo! Nick!... What beer were you drinking? I'm a beast man myself although I lick, I mean like BUSH... The drunken butt chunk likes Pabst Blue Ribbon! F*CK Heineken! VORQ: " So many things I think about When I look far away Things I know- Things I wonder Things I'd like to say" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Apr 91 03:03:51 -0500 From: brian frank <bdf43928@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: T.C. Broonsey This is my first posting, so pleez forgive any mistakes i make... What's the connection with T.C. Broonsey? If I'm not mistakin' at the beginning of Trees (or maybe Broon's Bane) Geddy mentions T.C. Broonsey... This is on ESL. What's the deal? Who is this guy? [ T.C Broonsey is Terry Brown. This is in the FAQL. :rush-mgr ] Until next time, Brian ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Apr 91 13:15:07 -0400 From: Michael S Savett <savvy@brahms.udel.edu> Subject: LATEST NEWS ON NEW ALBUM!!! Thought that would get your attention! First, to set this up...a local rock station is planning a "Strawberry Field" in Fairmount Park in Philadelphia sponsord by listener contributions. Friday afternoon, one DJ was talking live to the Gedster (I didn't hear it, but I was told this story!), asking him about this park thing. Afterward, Ged was asked about the new album and he said they are winding it down and it should be released in August. So there! Hope I am the bearer of good tidings for y'all!!! Savvy savvy@chopin.udel.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1991 20:42:00 -0230 From: Patrick Ryan <sauron@garfield.cs.mun.ca> Subject: 04/19/91 - The National Midnight Star #220 ** Special Edition ** Please remove me from this mailing list. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Apr 91 18:19:16 PDT From: djabson@UCSD.EDU (The God of Balance) Subject: Marillion I know this isn't Rush related but it's close. I just bought my first Marillion album, Misplaced Childhood. I like it a lot and I was wondering if any of you Marillion fans out there could give me a little info on the band such as when they started, how many albums they have, which albums are worth buying, etc. Please send mail to me, not to the NMS. Send mail to djabson@ucsd.edu Thanx a million (Marillion?). Dave ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Apr 91 21:53:23 EDT From: Mike Borella <borellms@clutx.clarkson.edu> Subject: Progressive Rock Mailing List I must apologize for the misunderstandings that the recent posting of the formation of a Progressive Rock mailing list has caused. George Grinch and I decided to direct all the people who wrote us to the existing list soon after we posted our notices. I sent the notice to many band lists. For the Rush list I sent the notice to the administrative address so that the Rush-Mgr could decide if he wanted the notice in the newsletter. When it didn't appear after a week, I decided that it probably got lost in the shuffle, so I didn't write to cancel its posting. I was surprised to see it show up when it did, and unfortunately was out of town at that time, so I didn't have a chance to explain then. [ It's partially my fault for waiting so long to post it. Things have a way of getting backed up... :rush-mgr ] As you probably know by now, the list "Gibraltar" is run my Michael Lamour from the: gibraltar-request@maestro.mitre.org address. I've become an avid reader, and I highly recommend it to anyone who would like to learn more about progressive rock. -Mike Borella borellms@clutx.clarkson.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Apr 91 12:31:03 EDT From: tony%archsun@gatech.edu (Tony Mancill) Subject: Ayn Rand Speaking of Objectivism, if you would really like to know more about what's going through Neil's head, read "ANTHEM" by Ayn Rand. It's very short, only about 90 pages or so, and it is easy to see that the song clearly comes from the book. (It's on Fly By Night for any of you younger Rush heads.) Aside from the fact that Anthem has great lyrics, I think that it is one of the first really signature Rush tunes. (Bytor and the Snow Dog might give exception to this...) We're really talking about some teeth-gritting metal here, way back in the early 70's. [ Yes, Rand had a lot of influence on Neil in the early days, but that was also over 15 years ago. His musical direction is influenced by much more over the years ... Road and Track for one! :-) :rush-mgr ] For another interesting lyrical Rush allusion, read "Cry, The Beloved Country" (I'm sorry, the author's name slips my mind right now.) for another idea about what "Absolom! Absolom!" means at the end of Distant Early Warning. (Besides, of course, the obvious Biblical and Faulkner references.) "And those who push us down that they might climb... Can any killer be worth more than his crime?" - Rush ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Apr 91 00:56 EDT From: "Malzor" <MXP122@PSUVM.PSU.EDU> Subject: Eraser Head The day the list didn't make it out I mentioned something about Eraser Head. Anyone notice the poster in Chronicles during Limelight? Pretty cool, especially considering the boys recognized the movie as being cool so soon after its release. L8'r ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1991 10:03:25 EDT From: RH2@JAGUAR.UCS.UOFS.EDU (Rebel, Runner, Restless young Romantic) Subject: the robert plant school of diction halloo!! rather than torment myself unnecessarily, does anyone know what geddy is saying/chanting/singing during 'la villa' on asoh?? or is this another enigma like the missing matter in the universe? [ I know on ESL it's transcribed as (something like) "Patty-cake patty-cake, baby needs a new pair of shoes." Seriously. :rush-mgr ] oh, and i must agree with nick(#219) that alex's wardrobe is cosmically cool... r,r,ryr, rose ---------------------------------------------------------- From: MGOODWIN@maine.maine.edu (J. MICHAEL GOODWIN) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 91 10:17:23 EDT >written on keyboards. After _Signals_ we realized that we had >gotten so keyboard-heavy that Alex was getting frustrated as a >guitarist. His role had been relegated to fundamental parts a lot of >times because the keyboards were so dominant. So with our latest >album, _Grace Under Pressure_, we transposed the parts I wrote on >keyboards for the the guitar, and I went back to the bass. As a The above, excerpted from Geddy's interview, is why I was frustrated with Signals (like Alex, I see). Then they came back with Grace Under Pressure, which I love. I recently rented the video to ASOH, to see if I would like the post P/G music. It seems that Rush went back to the heavy keyboard-oriented concept, as the songs selected for this video indicate. I'm looking to purchase some post P/G stuff. Which ones would people recommend, from a guitarists point of view! I don't want to pick up a Signals type release. Thanks. Mike Goodwin ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Apr 91 16:24 EDT From: <JPJ103@PSUVM.PSU.EDU> Subject: How to get Neil in your house real cheap! Well, not exactly. Ludwig, the drum company in Indiana, has two posters of Neil available for a ridiculously low price. One is from the Power Windows era, and the other has Neil with the Presto kit. Here's the ordering information: Order # Poster Cost AV 8066 Power Windows $2.00 AV 8070 Presto $3.00 Send check/money order to: Ludwig PO Box 310 Elkhart IN 46516 The posters should take 2 weeks or so to arrive. They also have a large number of posters of other drummers that the drummer-types out there might find in- teresting. Ask for an order form if you're interested. This might sound like a plug for Ludwig but I found it very interesting that these posters were so inexpensive (as well as of such a good quality). Bye for now... Michael Sensor <JPJ103@psuvm.psu.edu> Penn State University OBRQ: "Pleasure leaves a fingerprint as surely as mortal pain. In memory it resonates and echoes back again." ----------------------------------------------------------
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