The National Midnight Star #212

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu Subject: 04/12/91 - The National Midnight Star #212
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 212 Friday, 12 April 1991 Today's Topics: Administrivia The BEST drummer? Jack Secret THose things on Ged's keyboards Stick flipping in Concert Drum-sticking Boris & Natasha (none) Re: 04/11/91 - The National Midnight Star #210 Re: 04/11/91 - The National Midnight Star #210 rock, scissors, paper alex's guitars Re: 04/11/91 - The National Midnight Star #210 Excluded on the discography 1st Post/Dante & Music of the Spheres Presto: Scissors, Paper, Stone Fly in the Night CD new album - post production Re: TNMS #210: Tablature Guitar parts/Distribution/etc. The guitar comes out of closet Neil's Playing Geddy's dolls in ASOH Nathan Centofani's FM question "Seeing Red", 2112, Strokes Rush on radio, Queensryche Presto hands Neil's drumming ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Administrivia Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 11:32:10 EDT From: Editor, The National Midnight Star <rush-mgr> Since the discography is is a fairly stable form now (with a few exceptions), yesterday's posting will be the last mass-mailing for it. It is available via ftp as Digest.211.Z in the "rush/digest" dir, and also as the first entry in the "rush/special" directory. As things start to be removed from the regular digest archive directory, the special posts in certain digests will be extracted and moved to the special directory. >From now on, when I receive a new version from Dave D., I'll just post an announcement of it's availability here in the administrivia section of the NMS, and will make new copies available in the special directory and also via the server at Ingr. (Yes, Keith, I'll send you a copy.) I am also considering this course of action for the FAQL, which is now greater than 60K worth of material. Exceeding this 60K limit makes it impossible for some list members to receive the whole file, as their systems limit incoming mail to 60K per item. (There are at least two of these out there.) I'll think about this further (and discuss with you, Dan); stay tuned here for new developments. Lastly, due to a small snafu, the special edition (discography) sent out yesterday was numbered a bit confusingly. The correct digest number for that was 211, which was accurately reflected in the subject and in the tail section, but incorrect in the title between the banner and the date. Sorry 'bout that; hopefully the next one will be edited better... rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 08:31:29 -0500 From: letni!digi.lonestar.org!theruska@utacfd.uta.edu (Tom Heruska) Subject: The BEST drummer? In response to Mike's post on Neil: > >As if it needed to be said - Neil Peart is the BEST drummer in the business. >Period... (Don't come crying to me "But what about Greg Bissonette? Or >maybe Alex Acuna?" I don't want to hear it!! Phil WHO?) Has everybody >caught a glimpse of the light reflecting off his drum heads after a show? >Notice how all the stick marks fall into neat little circular areas in the >center of the head on each drum. Let's talk about PRECISION now! Has >anybody ever heard Neil hit a rim by accident? I didn't think so... I hope you're kidding here. I love Neil and have been a fan of his for over 10 years, but there are MANY drummers who could clean his clock. I'm sure he would agree. Don't get me wrong, I think Neil is an excellent drummer when compared to most drummers. It's just that there are so many drummers better than him that saying he is "the BEST in the business. Period . . ." is a little silly. If you REALLY believe this, I suggest you check out I guy named Dave Weckl. Flame if you must. I'm sure I'm not alone on this one. - Tom ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Jack Secret Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 17:09:43 EDT From: comehome@wam.umd.edu hi folks, A little chat about Jack Secret. We all know that a "Jack Secret" is anyone who switches disks or loads sounds for Ged or Pratt. Here is some auxillary info I have come upon (more is appreciated). Jack Secret is the name of a _British_ cartoon strip. It is also the name of an animated TV cartoon. It was eventually made into a video game (for the c-64)! At any rate Jack Secret is a 007ish type of guy w/loads of gadgets. I've never seen the strip or the show, but I once played the game (which offered all the afforementioned info in the docs). At any rate, I thought it was something all of you rushaholics might like to know. ~r .signature ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1991 18:10 EST From: BEEKER <THOMPS00%SNYBUFVA.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu> Subject: THose things on Ged's keyboards Well, this is my first post in a long time. I was watching ASOH the other night and did happen to notice that one of the things on Geddy's keys is a Canadian dollar bill. Beeker ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 16:03:57 PDT From: eric%wdl39@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Eric Kuhnen) Subject: Stick flipping in Concert Wes Morgan writes: >I think that this is also one of the reasons that Neil tends to stay >away from the visual goodies, such as stick flipping/twirling I think you've got a point there, but I do wish to raise an exception. In the Salt Palace (Salt Lake City, UT) during the Power Windows tour, I watched Neil Peart with binoculars during "Mystic Rhythms." Every eight counts he flipped the stick that was being used on the snare, or what looked like the snare from my seat. Our group of 10 all got to look at him doing this, and it was amazing. I don't remember if he was wired to a click track at the time, but I can't remember him missing any figures. It was a short little flip, just above the snare, and the ease with which he did this made the whole thing look simple. As a keyboard player who once sat before a drum kit, I find it easy to be impressed with this small display of "extra-curricular" activity! "Q" ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Drum-sticking Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 16:20:18 PDT From: Dan Dickerman GSY 1-447-4425 <dickermn@hpcugsya.cup.hp.com> Wes Morgan writes: > I think that this is also one of the reasons that Neil tends to stay > away from the visual goodies, such as stick flipping/twirling, that are > so prevalent among rock percussionists. These visual effects are detrimental > to both the percussionists's endurance and his maintenance of tempo. How > many times have you seen some percussionist juggling his sticks masterfully, > only to make his entrance late in the next phrase? Not to knock dear-old-Neil off of a pedestal, but he does do his share of stick-twirling and tossing. Most notably: in every concert I've seen (live or on video), he will toss a stick a good 20-feet (6-meters) in the air during a drumless section (e.g. towards the end of YYZ). Also viewable near the end of the Big Money video. Granted it's not as constant as some... --Dan ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 19:31:42 EDT From: Usually Dazed <clane@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Boris & Natasha Another Guitarist YEs I am! (lotso dem 'ere!) Well I remember seeing Boris and Natash on Gedsters Keyboards but I swear that on ASOH it wasnt the two villians from Rockey and Bullwinkle! I couldnt figure out who they were! Radio: Lotso Rush here in Columbus! Heard Limelight the other day. (Good thing I fixed my Subs in my car!) Metronome at a concert: Neat Idea! Not to be materialistic: but I love sports cars and I was wondering if anyone knows what kinds of cars the boys have? I met some guy who Says he lived in Canada and Says he played Alexes Amp at a repair shop, And Says he saw Geddy driving a jag...... but I didnt like him And didnt trust him! Anyone Anyone......... Bueler Bueler......... Chuck Chuck ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 19:43:44 PDT From: Eric Rescorla <rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu> YES, YES, YEs.... Put in a tab server.... It would be my guess that this is legal if you transcribe the music yourself, instead of reading it off RUSH's published sheet. I, for one, would love to see Something for Nothing there. I've got the tab, but I had to decode it from sheet, and the fingering is really clumsy. -Eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Rescorla rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu Yale University Department of Chemistry rescorla@psun.chem.yale.edu "Scuse me, while I kiss the sky."-Jimi Hendrix ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: 04/11/91 - The National Midnight Star #210 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 19:57:29 EDT From: derek@leah.Albany.edu! A couple of quick (mostly non-Rush-related) items: I've been watching, but not participating in, the recurring Rush-based flamewars on usenet for years now, and it's become increasingly annoying. It's not the people who flame Rush and their fans (like Erland, Rod, Hamish, etc) that get to me, however -- it's the fans themselves. I've seen messages from people who reflexively "defend the faith" that are so painfully stupid, I end up siding with the Erlands and Hamishes. At least those two have a point with respect to Rush fans, who are generally well-read, intelligent and agreeable folks, but turn into raving lunatics if someone "blasphemes" the band. (And I've talked to Erland via email a few times; he LIKES Rush, he has quite a few Rush albums.) This is not to say there aren't those who just like putting down Rush, but most of the bashing has been on Rush FANS, and the level of debate from our corner indicates that some of the bashing is deserved. So many of us know music well and intimately, are well-spoken and well-written, that I'm kind of shocked that most of the posts defending Rush have been of the "you're an idiot, Rush rules, if you can't see that you're blind" variety. While those who bash aren't saints in this matter (they seem to enjoy provoking knee-jerk responses), I have little sympathy for the Rush fan who posts out of anger or protection. There are good reasons for liking the band, so if you take part in these debates, be calm and explain yourself. Or be above it all, and point out the silliness of "taste" debates in the first place. If you get angry you're just feeding the flame... :-) Sorry about the diatribe. The other thing I wanted to mention was, I saw someone in yesterday's issue mention fencing (Aron?). Hey out there, I'm an eight-year fencer (foil, some epee), and if anyone wants to start talking the sport, send me mail! How many Rush-fan/fencers are there anyway? :-) [ Well, my old roommate was one of the top 5 ameture fencers in Maryland back in the early-mid 80's, does that count? (Sabre) :rush-mgr ] Derek L. -- derek@albnyvms.bitnet <> derek@leah.albany.edu ====}=---------------` Fencers love to touch '-----------------={==== "Cinderella man... hang on to your plans..." ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 17:04:51 -0700 From: mikes@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (60392000) Subject: Re: 04/11/91 - The National Midnight Star #210 About this hands on Presto thing..... I remember reading a article about this in Hit Parade. Neil wrote about this very same thing in this article. Unfortunately It's at home, in my room. Lost, is a better word to describe the where abouts of it. Otherwise i'd be able to send it in. It's been about a year since I read it, but if memory serves, Neil said something about: The Rock | represents the core of the band. Paper | represents the creativity that covers the core. Scissors?| represents the producers who cut out things that don't belong!!!!!! Again it's been a while since I read it, but that is what I remember. So, with that......... I leave you with hand over fist paper around the stone scissors cut the paper and the rock must stand alone. Mike from UCSC or should that be PCSC?? ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 20:45 EDT From: WHLST@vms.cis.pitt.edu Subject: rock, scissors, paper In responce to Mossy's question about the hands, I always just assumed that the stood for the hand game rock, scissors, paper that I learned at a very young age. Rock smashes scissors, scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock. Who knows, maybe there's some deep philosophical meaning to them, but you won't find me searching for it. Also, I reccomed Hemispheres. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 20:47:49 -0400 From: jtkung@caf.MIT.EDU (Joseph Kung) Subject: alex's guitars Alex Lifeson has switched to Paul Reed Smith guitars ever since Signature guitars became non-existent [I guess they went out of business]. He uses two on-stage, a tobacco sunburst one and a black one, both fitted with active single coils from Evans. Everything else is PRS, and the strings are still Dean Markleys. His set-up also has changed somewhat. He still has his old set-up, but now he runs a parallel set-up consisting of a Roland GP-16 to highlight certain songs. The set-ups run in stereo and go to GK cabinets loaded with 2 Celestions. One speaker accepts the old set-up signal, and the other the Roland GP-16. There's a complex baffle between the speakers and other things that provide better isolation. His preamp is still the GK CPL-2000, and a Macro series power amp from Crown. There's a good interview in the latest isssue of Guitar for the Practicing Musician, where Alex talks about live performance, rehearsals, soundchecks, equipment, etc. He was inducted into GFTPM's Hall of Fame. As for the studios Rush have used in the past in Europe, they were Trident Studios [England?] and Rockfield Studios in Wales for _Hemispheres_, The Manor in Surrey [I think they started with PW, I'm not sure], Sarm East in London, Air Studios, London, and Guillame Tell in Paris. My bet is that they're probably going to The Manor, since Neil said they have a good room there for recording his drums. If the basic tracks are done, then I assume they probably stayed in Toronto to record in McClear Place, or went to Quebec at Le Studio, and they're going to maybe Air Studios for overdubs, etc. Who knows. Either way, the boyz do not skimp on recording. These places are some of the best recording studios in the world. - Joe ---------------------------------------------------------- From: The Spanish Penguin <cook@donald.cs.umn.edu> Subject: Re: 04/11/91 - The National Midnight Star #210 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 23:28:36 CDT Greetings Rush Fans of the World: Two topics I'd like to address concerning the new album... First, to the person who broke the news to us about the new album. I don't want to sound like a real putz or anything, but there are a lot of people out there who CLAIM to be friends of Andy MacNaughton...when in fact, he doesn't even know they existed. Now, I'm not saying that I don't believe you...("I can't believe you're saying...these things just can't be true...")but, 2 WEEKS???? That is simply unheard of!!! Did this source of yours divulge who the producer would be? Common belief says that it'll be Rupert Hine again...but I'd like to hear official word, to make sure that it's not Peter Collins. To sum up, I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I'll be more assured when I see official confirmation. Second, to rstark@aipna.edinburgh.ac.uk who asked about which London studio Rush would be doing post-production at: My guess would be the Manor...but I've been wrong before... Well..that's all for now...L8r's folks!!!! ************************************************************** * Jay Cook (aka "Wedge" and "Pinguino: the Spanish Penguin")* * Virginia Tech (UVa WHO???) * * cook@donald.cs.umn.edu (yea, I'm a displaced Minnesotan) * * ORQ - "Take off, to the Great White North!!" * ************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 00:07:06 EDT From: Rob_Harris@ub.cc.umich.edu Subject: Excluded on the discography I think I have some information on a CD not listed in the disoggraphy...While attending a local record show (here in Ann Arbor), I happened upon a dealer who had a huge stack of CD's from the King Biscuit Flour Hour show that used to be on the radio. I was surprised when I saw a Rush disc for that show, as I had never heard of them doing a live set for it. Well, as it turns out, (or at least this is how I heard it) the CD, although it was recorded and compiled from a few shows, was never played on the air for one reason or another. I guess that explains its price-tag....a mere $250!! I could never shell out that kind of dough, but I wanted to inform the interested...That is the story as best as I can remember. Has anyone else seen this? Or is it extraordinarily rare? >>>>>---------------> Rob Harris "...sometimes our big splashes are just ripples in the pool..."--N.P. ---Hulme=Glass Joe (20 seconds)...you will never get the banner! ---Elvis...Telly...I love ya' baby.... Well. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 02:25:08 -0400 From: gt1291c@prism.gatech.edu (Andy Rachels) Subject: 1st Post/Dante & Music of the Spheres In NMS #210 Mike asked for references to "Music of the Spheres", well here's onnne Dante makes reference to the "Music of the Spheres" in _Paradiso_, the 3rd book of his _Divine Comedy_. At the beginning of _Paradiso_, Dante is taken by Beatrice from Purgatory into Heaven & in the process is "transhumanized." In this new superhuman state, he can now hear pure, heavenly music - Music of the Spheres - that is resonating in the heavens. This perfect music is not only coming from the motion of the crystalline spheres but also from the souls of everyone in heaven. (The souls inhabited the crystalline spheres, which not only held the planets & stars in their orbit around the earth, but also represented the different spheres/levels of heaven). Anyway, from all this I think you can see how this reference to "Music of the Spheres" fits into 'The Analog Kid' pretty well. (IMHO) Now for useless info: 1) This was my 1st Post 2) The Analog Kid is probably my favorite Rush song. Andy Rachels - GaTech ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 02:59:53 -0400 From: axm24@po.CWRU.Edu (Atashi Mandal) Subject: Presto: Scissors, Paper, Stone ONE MORE ITEM ABOUT THE HANDS ON PRESTO'S COVER Hola to all the worshippers of the holy trinity of Geddy, Alex and Neil- Hopefully this hasn't already been pointed out since I haven't been on the mailing list of NMS too long, but I purchased a program for the Presto tour at the concert in Cincinnati, and at the beginning of the program Neil wrote a summary explaining how and why Rush writes their music and how that music starts turning into another album, etc........ In that explanation Neil implemented the images of the rock, paper, and scissors. I won't do injustice to Neil's excellent writing abilities and try to explain what he wrote myself, so I'll just tell you what he wrote (I hope I won't be busted for a copywright or something, knowing my luck....) 6th paragraph- "And that's where progression comes in-where it could have been better. (it=their music) As a band and as individuals, we always have a hidden agenda, a subtext of motivation which is based on dissatisfaction with past work, and desire to improve. That agenda has changed as we have changed; when we stared out, we just wanted to learn how to PLAY, and sometimes our songs were just vehicles for technical experiments and the Joy of Indulgence. But still, PLAYING is the foundation for us- the Stone- and rock is our favorite kind of stone. Despite our dabbles in other styles, it is the energy, flexibility, and attitude of rock which remain most compelling for us. We exer- cised our fingers and exorcised our demons by trying every note we could reach, in every time signature we could not count on our fingers. But after we'd played with those toys for awhile, the songs themselves began to attract our interest. Rock is not made of stone alone, and we wanted to learn more about conveying what WE felt as powerfully as we could. Paper wraps Stone- the song contains the playing, gives it structure and meaning. More experiments resulted as we pursued that goal, and those had to lead us into the field of arrangement. Once we felt more satisfied with the pieces of the songs, and how we played them as individuals and as a band, it became more important how we assembled the pieces. Scissors cut Paper- the arrangement shape the song, gives it focus and balance. So our last few albums have reflected that interest, tinkering with melodic and rhythmic structure in pursuit of the best possible interpretation of the song." Well, sorry it was long, but I didn't feel right cutting any of that out since all of that has to do with Neil's explanation. (Sorry to all those who have the program and have already read this) But I think this might give the rest of you a new insight into the image of the Rock, Scissors and Paper game and exactly what Rush meant by including that illustration on the cover. Well- excuse the typos; it's been a rough night for me. In Rush we trust- Atashi ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 03:20:36 EDT From: Mike Borella <borellms@clutx.clarkson.edu> Subject: Fly in the Night CD From: jdinkins@eagle.calpoly.edu (nobody) >Mike Borella writes >>Subject: Fly in the Night CD bootleg >> >>I just picked up a "new" CD bootleg of the Permanent Waves tour called >>"Fly in the Night" > > You wouldnt happen to have noticed how many they had would you? Also >how much it cost you? They had 1 other than the one I bought. It was $32.99 + tax (yes, I know I got ripped off...) >>According to the cover, this is a limited edition release, with only 1000 >>copies made. > Yeah, Ive heard that before. (-: So have I, but why take chances? :-) BTW, I think I was mistaken about it being from the permanent waves tour. The disc says Montreal 1980, but there are no songs from Hemispheres or PM, and there are 5 songs from Farewell, so I'd say it's more like 77 or 78. -Mike Borella borellms@clutx.clarkson.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick Pitfield <ntp@oasis.icl.stc.co.uk> Subject: new album - post production Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 11:13:08 BST Hi, Regarding the studio used for post production of the new album; I thought they were going to the Manor Studios in Oxford (England) as they have in previous years. I've not heard before that they were going to a London Studio. Cheers. /=============================================================================\ || From the mighty fingers of >> Nick Pitfield << (The Bugfynder General...) || |=============================================================================| || INTERNET : ntp@oasis.icl.co.uk || || UUCP : ..!uunet!mcvax!ukc!iclbra!ntp || |=============================================================================| || "More than just performance, more than just a spark, || || More than just the bottom line, or a lucky shot in the dark." || || "Marathon" (Rush - Power Windows) || \=============================================================================/ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 09:11 CDT From: jws3@engr.uark.edu (6079 Smith J) Subject: Re: TNMS #210: Tablature Concerning the question of the legality of posting Rush tab: I believe that if you listen to the song and write it out yourself, it's OK; but you can't copy it out of a copyrighted book or sheet of music. It's the same principle that allows bands to cover other bands' music: they have to do their own version, not learn it out of sheet music. I'm no lawyer, but that's how it was explained to me several years ago.... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: bold%astroatc.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu (Jeff Beck) Subject: Guitar parts/Distribution/etc. Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 8:06:25 CDT > From: habbinga@tramp.Colorado.EDU (erik habbinga) > Subject: LIMELIGHT tab and Alex's guitar > Also, I am curious as to when Alex started playing a Paul Reed Smith > guitar. At the Denver show (Jun 22, 1990), Alex played the PRS the entire > show. In the poster I got at the concert, he is shown w/ one of his white > Signatures. Has anyone ever heard Alex say why he switched? I saw Alex play it at the Alpine Valley show too. I thought it was great! It sounds great and plays well (I own one too!). He switched because it is a kick-ass guitar, IMHO :-) > also, as an aside: PLEASE, don't respond to the Rush-fan baiting currently > in vogue on alt.rock-n-roll (and, to a lesser extent in rec.music.misc). I agree here! People, I don't even respond to ANY Rush articles on rec.music.misc anymore. Rush is in my kill file! Now, don't take this the wrong way. I like Rush, but the discussions on r.m.m are so totally useless (certainly compared to this digest), that they are not even worth reading. > From: Phil Kime <pyubg@cu.warwick.ac.uk> > Subject: Rush Guitar Parts > Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 14:11:32 BST > Is there a lot of interest in guitar tab to Rush tracks/bits of Rush tracks? > I can play most Rush stuff and would be willing, if there are enugh people > interested, to submit some stuff. Has anyone got the exact tab to the chord > solos in Distant Early Warning and Afterimage? > [ There was some interest a while back by some of the list members in > getting together a TAB archive of Rush tunes. The main question was > that of copyright - are permissions needed to distribute? :rush-mgr ] Frank Schaapherder and I have been collecting and putting Rush tablature into our respective computer systems for months now. As soon as we have completed it, we will post an article to the digest listing all songs, and which parts are there and requesting additional material. Our goal is to have *every single song* in tablature, eventually. I believe we have some odd 20 or 30 so far. So, if you have tabs you want to contribute, send them to me, and I will archive them until release, and compare them to what we already have. Please don't send mail yet requesting tabs as the whole kit 'n kaboodle (sp?) will be send to the digest in a few weeks or longer. [ Well, actually made available via anon. ftp, and I'll send them to the server at Ingr also. :rush-mgr ] -- ****************************************************************************** * Jason Bold - Madison,WI= [(rutgers||ames)!uwvax||att!nicmad]!astroatc!bold * * "A strawberry mind, a body that's built for two" - Michael Hedges * ****************************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: The guitar comes out of closet From: MGOODWIN@maine.maine.edu (J. MICHAEL GOODWIN) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 10:48:46 EDT I've played guitar for many years, but it's been getting dusty the last couple of years. Last night I was diddlin' with my roommate's acoustic and figured out the intro to A Farewell To Kings. Well, that got me reminiscing about the hours I used to spend in front of the turntable figuring out songs. I'd like to get back into it, and was wondering if the guitarists on the NMS would be willing to give me some info on those chords that Alex uses frequently. Someone mentioned at one time that he uses sus2 chords. What would they be? I have an ear for picking out solos, but can't get those "jangly" chords that Alex is into!! If any guitarists would be willing to help me out here, I will be forever in your debt. Mike Goodwin mgoodwin@maine.maine.edu mgoodwin@maine.bitnet ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 11:27:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "William F. O'Dell" <wo04+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Neil's Playing I haven't posted in a while, so if it seems like I'm drawing things out, sorry. I think Neil uses a double stick technique once in a while. I believe the final roll on Limelight is a double stroke (RR LL RR LL). Also, though I agree that showmanship (drum stick twirling etc.) can get in the way, Neil integrates it almost perfectly. And he does it with more flamboyance than your *typical* heavy metal rock-n-roll drummer. Have you ever seen Tommy Lee (Motley Crue) do a twenty feet stick throw and then get right back on beet? How about two tom fill real fast while twirling the stick in between each hit? If it started to mess the band up, I would get weary of Neil's stick play. But since it makes the show all the more better, I live for it. Furman ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Geddy's dolls in ASOH Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 8:38:37 PDT From: Dan Dickerman GSY 1-447-4425 <dickermn@hpcugsya.cup.hp.com> > Subject: Those little dolls on Ged's keyboard, etc. > > I don't know for sure what those dolls are, but I thought they might be > the Rockin' Constructivists (see ASOH liner notes!) - those characters > at the beginning of the ASOH video...any guesses? I have yet to find a clear shot of the dolls, but from what I can decipher it seems he has 6 dolls and a brandy snifter (with cash, of course) distributed onto 2 keyboards: nearest the snifter is Boris Badenov (Bullwinkle fame) and further to our left is a group of 3 consisting of Rocky the Flying Squirrel (Bullwinkle), a toy robot, and something that looks vaguely like a cowboy drawing both pistols (knees bent, etc). [ I think this last one might be Roger (?) Kneebend, one of Julians old toys, which the group sort of adopted as a mascott during the recording sessions. I'll try to find the reference to him.... :rush-mgr ] On the other keyboard (facing the front of the stage) is a thinner toy robot and (this one's really a ballpark guess) a cartoon dog (though none that I recognize) that is acting the part of the gracious waiter. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 12:16:48 EDT From: herrera@tegra.com (Valentino Herrera) Subject: Nathan Centofani's FM question To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu From: Valentino Herrera (herrera@tegra.com) Subject: Nathan Centofani's FM question Nathan writes: >Mark Marcelissen in NMS #207 said that the band FM was the backup band for the >Ottawa "Power Windows" gig. Would that be the British band "FM" (a la Dige >Digital on keyboards), or am I confusing this with another band? I've never heard of a British band called FM, but it wouldn't suprise me if there was a band somewhere with the same name. I'm more familiar with the Canadian band FM, who enjoyed airplay (probably about ten years ago) with the progressive/pop song "Phasors on Stun". I think the name of the album this was from was titled _White Noise_. Hope this helps. Valentino Herrera ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: "Seeing Red", 2112, Strokes Date: 11 Apr 91 22:14:09 PDT (Thu) From: lance@cynic.cynic.wimsey.bc.ca (Lance Neustaeter) Does anyone else out there suffer from the same syndrome as I? You know, when you consciously avoid watching any news programs and stop reading newspapers? If your flipping through the channels and stop on any current news story it usually accomplishes nothing but getting you annoyed, flustered and frustrated with the world--so that you just stop listening to avoid the blood pressure? This, my friends, is (IMHO) what "red lenses" is about. I think the line that many people on the list zeroed in on and mistook for the theme of the whole song (about Soviets/McCarthyism) is NOT the theme of the whole song, but merely one particular expression of the theme as I described, above. I also think that Neil meant for that passage to be taken either way: Literal disapproval of Soviets and their ideology (as I take it) and scorn for mindless McCarthyists (as I also take it). "The flash to fashion" is society's preoccupation with glamour and superficialality. "The pulse to passion" is preoccupation with sex. "We've got mars on the horizon / says the national midnight star / (it's true)" is sarcastic annoyance with tabloids in general. The rest is pretty self explanatory (or has been mentioned here already). Hmmm. Except "(not blue)". I think he just stuck that one there to keep us guessing. I've always and still do interpret the end of 2112 as a tragedy (I know, I'm in the minority here {again!}). The protagonist cannot bear to go on with life after comparing his world with the world he saw in his dream. After he's dead, the Priests no longer had a freethinking upstart around to threaten their serene rule. Their control was reasured and secure again. The Priests announce to the pilots of the Solar Federation that they once again had control of the situation. The masses can continue living their contented lives as they had done before without fear of the disruption or change that the protagonist potentially represented. Neil Peart is predominantly a single stroke drummer. He does, however, occasionally use buzz and military (looser, more open. Can sound "uneven", but it's supposed to--it's not a buzz) rolls. He also sometimes will play "ghost notes" on the snare (hard to explain. if any other drummer here wants to take a shot at it for the non-drummers on the list...it's easier to show than tell). Uh...I think he does in Freewill, for example (during the lead--very kool!) and in other songs, as well. I've never noticed Neil using two handed ride patterns when one hand would do. "Tom Sawyer" comes to mind. This could conceivably be played with two hands on the hi-hat; Neil uses one. The times that he does use both hands, I defy anyone to try it for long with one. eg: begining of DEW (p/g), La Villa Strangiato (16th note hi-hat plays an alternating R-l-r-L-r-l-R... where the capital letters are open hats--quite peachy) or Xanadu, etc. "Whispering" trivia question: Can you pick out the steel drums in "The Spirit of Radio"? (you drummers, put your hands down!) ps. On Xanadu, Neil plays a tubular bell (chime) and the note bends downward. Does anyone know how this is done? I have an theory (haven't tried it, so it's still a theory) so if no one knows, I'll see what you think of my version of an explanation. [ Doesn't this also occur in "Cygnus X-1"? :rush-mgr ] "Some might think--though I don't--that nine years ago there was some excuse for men not to see the direction in which the world was going. Today, the evidence is so blatant that no excuse can be claimed by anyone any longer. Those who refuse to see it now are neither blind nor innocent." --Ayn Rand, intro to "Anthem" (1946) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 13:13 CST From: <EMBIRK%TWSUVAX.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: Rush on radio, Queensryche I can't believe that radio stations in Wichita,Ks play more Rush than stations in Pitsburgh. I hear around 6-10 Rush songs a week and do'nt really listen to the radio that much. I read today that the Queenryche's lead singer Geoff Tate's first band was a Rush/Van Halen cover band. This might explain the simularity between Rush and Queensryche. A Rush/Van Halen cover band, boy that sounds wierd!! -Eric "I like to believe in the freedom of BASEBALL"-Geddy Lee ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 09:30:36 hst From: Hinano Akaka <bigtuna!hinano@uhccux.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu> Subject: Presto hands Good day and welcome to day 12 -- Not to over-extend the discussion about the hands on Presto, but I had wondered what they were when I first got the album. (My mom finally had to point it out). It threw me because when I was a kid, we never called it 'paper-scissors-stone'; it was called 'jun-ken-a-po' (run it together really fast) -- don't ask me how the h*ll we got that term! We even had God, dynamite, superman, etc. Man oh man... I wonder if Neil wrote the Presto program in conjunction with Hands Over Fist, or if he found a neat little analogy in the song by accident, or if he planned it that way. If you saw the hands as being the Boyz, it would coincide with the Presto concert program (or vice versa). I don't recall the sequence of the hands on the album, but perhaps they could be the Boyz in relation to their pictures. As you all know, most of their pictures on the albums are positioned from left to right as you would see them on stage (Alex, Neil, Geddy). Perhaps the picture on the left (your left if you're facing the picture) of the hand represents Alex, etc., etc.? Not that I'm trying to make an overly big deal about this, but it's just a thought. Comments? (Or is the sequence of the hands simply 'paper-scissors- stone'? I don't remember...) Puanani Akaka ---------------------------------------------------------- From: David Arnold <davida@syrinx.umd.edu> Subject: Neil's drumming In the last NMS, Wes Morgan wrote: >I think that this is also one of the reasons that Neil tends to stay >away from the visual goodies, such as stick flipping/twirling, that are Oh, Neil doesn't stay away from the flips; he may do them so well that you can't tell any difference in the beat, but he does them. As a matter of fact, that was one of the things that attracted me as a young Rush listener - he can do all that *and* flip sticks too! We'd watch him during shows and try to catch the first time he'd toss. He would start with just a 1' toss, and work up to a good 6' by the end of the evening. He was great at tossing during a lull, catch and strike a drum or cymbol precisely on time. It was great stuff back then. In more recent years, I haven't noticed as many tosses, or as high. I think he's evolved past the "be amazed at what I can do" phase. David Arnold Keywords: Rush, Jethro Tull, Crack the Sky, Squeeze, BOC, Neville Brothers, Peter Gabriel, Pink Floyd, Inet: davida@syrinx.umd.edu Talking Heads, King Crimson, Rolling Stones, UUCP: uunet!syrinx.umd.edu!davida Police, ELP, Grass Roots, Hollies, Guess Who ----------------------------------------------------------
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