The National Midnight Star #207

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 04/08/91 - The National Midnight Star #207
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 207 Monday, 8 April 1991 Today's Topics: Re: 04/01/91 - The National Midnight Star #202 (none) The music of the spheres Some lyrics Sun audio BMG CD club numbers Subdivisions party Re: 04/04/91 - The National Midnight Star #206 Power Windows: Alex reveals all! NEWS ON NEW ALBUM!!! (Really.) Presto Blues The Big Money/Owner of a lonely heart + Misc Reminder about cassette poll the _Sir Gawain_ song that didn't make it Animated Special/1991 Juno Awards/Ottawa Concert My first post/new album bootleg and covers Rush in other lands Those little dolls on Ged's keyboard, etc. Fly in the Night CD bootleg Hands in Presto? Whoops ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 04 Apr 91 15:28:20 EST From: mike spiegel <H97SI@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: Re: 04/01/91 - The National Midnight Star #202 hello out there in rush land: I guess everyone of you out there have a specific verse or sound that can make the spiders crawl up you back (in a good sense). I do. On 'Presto' after the line "humming your fav-or-ite song, you know I've hated that song for so long" there is some type of harmonic disonance that is heard. Check it out. I have listened to it a thousand times. It's great. ...UNTIL LATER... mike ---------------------------------------------------------- From: cfynx@epsl.umd.edu Date: Thu, 04 Apr 91 17:03:32 EST Ho... I always figured that the Red Book was the book of codes used in silos. These books contained launch codes..kinda makes sense with the time of the album..it was in the days of movies like The Day After and the Nuclear fear was pretty high.. One other thing..the user who has the quote: Todays Tom Sawyer...Mean Mean guy... Why? Is it another Geddy joke> Or is it just a mistake? (No insults intended..i figured it was in the vein of catch the fish). anyway... May the Force be with you. . ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 03 Apr 91 23:02:00 EST From: Dave <GCPURNEL%ECUVM1.BITNET@ncsuvm.ncsu.edu> Subject: The music of the spheres Somebody asked a few issues back about a line in the Digital Kid (or was that the Analog man?!?)--"Like the music of the spheres". They wanted to know whether this was a reference to an earlier Rush song (can't 'member which one but it wasn't Hemispheres -though that's a pretty obvious candidate). Well, I read somewhere in an astronomy book 'bout some dude who used some kind of orbital and/or physical data for the planets of Sol (ar Fed. ?) and assigned pitches and durations for the data. He thereby created a musical piece for each of the planets--weird sounding music IMHO (there was a flexidisc in the book). So, maybe this is what "music of the spheres" refers to as the above mentioned music was titled Music of the Spheres. Maybe Neil was referring to Holtz's -The Planets stuff? ORQ-"Aw right cat! Take yer package and scram!" RORQ- "Do ya have the lyric sheet?" -bob "Oh yeah, I memorized them." -ged "Oh great, Beauty" -bob "How, how did ya' do that so quickly?" -doug "I'm a professional" -ged "Ok, so good day. Our topic today _is_ music" p.i.s. -So where the hell is that guitar synth in Hemispheres?!? Anyone, anyone? David Purnell ---------------------------------------------------------- From: cfabrams@eos.ncsu.edu Subject: Some lyrics Date: Thu, 04 Apr 91 18:14:27 EST Anyone know the name of the river the "Three travellers" follow in "The Necromancer"? I think that's the only word in the whole song I can't understand....Also, is there a bass players' mailing list anywhere? I'm hooked on Geddy....I heard somewhere they are contracted at Atlantic for two more albums after "Presto"...when will the next one be released? Later cAm cfabrams@eos.ncsu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Sun audio Date: Thu, 4 Apr 91 17:30:54 CST From: keith@dragon.b23b.ingr.com (Keith Ford) I have a Sun audio file of the synth opening to Tom Sawyer. Send email to server@ingr.com with the subject of GET RUSH/MISC/TS_SYNTH. BTW, what legal issues come up from audio files and GIFs of album covers. Are we in a gray area somewhere or standing on the coals? If it's not too hot, I also have Tai Shan. My CD player plugs right into the Sun, so you get the idea... Hey Rush Mgr, I'm in the process of aligning our image files that are available via ftp and email. Will let you know if I have any you don't. BTW, thanks for doing what you do. :-) PS- I've never seen Rush. :-( -- fordke@ingr.com "He knows changes aren't permanent, but change is" -Rush ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: BMG CD club numbers Date: Thu, 4 Apr 91 17:32:56 CST From: keith@dragon.b23b.ingr.com (Keith Ford) If you are a member of the BMG CD club, here is some useful info. The numbers that start with 2 count as two selections. This is all that they have. I called to confirm this since I have these. If you're not a member but would like more info, send me email. NUMBER TITLE ------ ----------------- 133716 "2112" 164202 "Presto" 200608 "A Show Of Hands" 209829 "Chronicles" Disclaimer: I have no association with BMG other than being a satisfied customer. -- fordke@ingr.com "He knows changes aren't permanent, but change is" -Rush ---------------------------------------------------------- From: mstovino@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Subject: Subdivisions party Date: Fri, 05 Apr 91 00:57:07 EST Hey, check it out... that's the same night that Deep Purple plays the Worcester Centrum... convenient, aye???(Has anyone seen DP this tour?????) Maybe I'll get a chance to show up.... To the guy hosting it, how much are you guys paying for them? I'm a Theta Delt at MIT and we would die to get somethuing like that!!!!! Oh well, is anyone else from Boston thinking off going there?????? ...............Mike T. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1991 12:13 PST From: THE UNINVITED GUEST <LOFFT30%SNYBUFVA.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu> Subject: Re: 04/04/91 - The National Midnight Star #206 Please remove me from the list. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Adrian N Ogden <ano@csres.cs.reading.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 91 18:13:12 BST Subject: Power Windows: Alex reveals all! >From: mjkobb@media-lab.media.mit.edu > > I was just reading all the discussion of "Power Windows" as referring to >computer windowing systems. Well, maybe, but considering the album cover >(with all the TVs), it's always made more sense to me that the TV's are the >"Power Windows" -- i.e. they're a "window on the world" that you have to plug >in. (q.v. "Activate the window and watch the world go 'round."). Just to throw a spanner in the works, I just remembered a TV interview with Alex shortly before PoW was released. (Rush on TV? in the UK!!?? Strange but true!) Host: Rush's new album comes out next week. It's called 'Power Windows', and here in the studio we have guitarist Alex Lifeson who's flown all the way from Canada to be here, so I hope you feel priveliged. Alex, what's a Power Window? Alex: (laughs) A Power Window is something that goes up and down on a car. << Adrian Ogden _ . _ _ _ . _ _ _ _ . . ano@uk.ac.rdg.cs.csres >> NOB&TQ: "Strange things are afoot at the Circle K!" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Apr 91 12:36:23 EST From: faulkner@acsu.buffalo.edu (shane p faulkner) Subject: NEWS ON NEW ALBUM!!! (Really.) The following line may sound very cliche, but here goes anyway... NEWS FROM A VERY RELIABLE SOURCE: My mega Rush source recently talked to Andrew MacNaughton about the new album. ALL TRACKS HAVE BEEN RECORDED. It took only about 2 weeks, which I find astounding by today's standards. They are leaving for Europe in 3 weeks for mixing, solos, production etc. There are as of now 10 songs, although this could change a la Show Don't Tell, Force 10... and... One is an instrumental. I hope they don;t decide to tack on vocals like they did with Hand Over Fist... Projected release date is August-September. r .sig . ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Apr 91 14:17 EDT From: Ken Renard <KDRENARD@vms.cis.pitt.edu> Subject: Presto Blues There have been a lot of people lately saying that they don't really like PRESTO as much as some of the other albums. Being that this album is relatively new, I may have an explanation. When HYF first came out, I really didn't like it as much as MP and the such. After listening to it a couple of times, it really grew on me. It's now my favorite album. For me, a new Rush album takes a couple weeks, or months to settle into the brain, tear apart and analyze the songs, and hear the stroke of genius that is Rush. Considering that I was a starving musician in California last summer, without my Presto CD, I didn't get to listen to it all that much. I am just now getting to really understand and really like the album. Presto is a bit different from earlier albums and for those who don't like it as much, maybe you just need more time to listen to it. Ken Renard ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ORQ: "Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand" OSTQ: "But this one goes up to eleven!" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Apr 91 17:32:46 EST From: Anand Rangarajan <rangarajan-anand@CS.YALE.EDU> Subject: The Big Money/Owner of a lonely heart + Misc I felt the same as David Copley regarding The Big Money and Owner of a Lonely Heart. There seems to be a lot of similarities in the production. I also came across Geddy's glowing attributes of Owner... somewhere (swiss cheese memory). It's not unlikely that they added some production touches to The Big Money which unconsciously resemble Owner.. On the same topic of borrowed riffs/songs/production and carbon copies, didn't a review of Presto by Rolling Stone suggest similarities between Anagram and Foreigner's ``Long Way from home'' or some such title (never heard the song) ? Long ago, someone on rec.music.misc suggested that the guitar solo in Subdivisions is similar to the solo in U2's New Year's day. They are, except that The Edge's solo is in a higher key. I haven't checked if this topic is in FAQL. Rush-mgr? Anyway, I don't remember if Boy or Signals was released first or if New Year's day or Subdivisions were written well before they were recorded. A Guitar Player's article on Alex (in '86), suggested that his then playing style had closest parallels to U2's The Edge and Andy Summers. The reason for this classification was that all three guitarists have done a lot of work with textures. In the Beyond Borders interview, Alex says that he is not doing much work with textures since Rush is using kbds for that. Strangely enough his role in the Beyond Borders project is textural. In fact Rik Emmett called him their kbd player for that project. Does anyone who is a drummer care to comment on single stroking vs. not single stroking. Are Bruford and Peart primarily single stroking drummers whereas say Phil Collins is not. Is single stroking akin to a single sharp sound whereas ``not single stroking'' more like a diffused, broad sound? Anand Rangarajan rangarajan-anand@cs.yale.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Apr 91 22:25:19 -0500 From: "Douglas G Schwabe" <cschwabe@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Subject: Reminder about cassette poll Good Evening fellow Rush Fans!! Just want to remind everyone that the cassette poll is still on and will be on for a few more weeks so there is time to send in your cassette list. If the entries start to trickle I will post the results sooner. Here again R the addresses: dgsst4@vms.cis.pitt.edu dgsst4@unix.cis.pitt.edu cschwabe@unix.cis.pitt.edu Thanx to the people who have sent in their entries. Another thing, I promise Keep those lists coming please!! Doug ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Apr 91 21:46 CST From: MarkuS <B674ZBG@UTARLG.UTA.EDU> Subject: the _Sir Gawain_ song that didn't make it Upon reading issue #206 in the interview with Neil, I was intrigued to see the reference a song Peart had been working on way back when about the story _Sir Gawain an the Green Knight_. Having had to write a paper on this for a British Lit. class, I am very familiar with the story and have even seen a movie made about the story called _The Sword of the Valiant_ with Sean Connery. Having an affection for medieval ballads/stories/tales/myths, I was wondering if anyone out there has ever heard anything further about this "project" other than what was mentioned in the article. I can't imagine what it would sounds like or how he would tackle condensing the 80-page tale into a musical wonder although it's not like they haven't done it a few times before really (like I'm sure all of you weren't aware of that already...I know, I know... ;-). Reading this also made me think of all the other "projects" that don't make it onto the albums for whatever reasons (time considerations, record company execs, "whatever"...) and wondered just how many of these make it to later albums under the guise of a "re-worked" song or idea. Is anyone aware of any songs that did make it onto later albums that were originally "shelved" at the time of the current release. Just wonderin'.... MarkuS K. ORQ "The mountains hold the sunrise in the prison of the night, Till bursting forth from rocky chains, the valley floods with light." ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1991 09:42:00 -0500 From: Mark (M.J.) Marcelissen <MARKM@BNR.CA> Subject: Animated Special/1991 Juno Awards/Ottawa Concert After reading the Frequently Asked Questions list, I did not notice any talk about the RUSH animated cartoon special that aired a few years back on CTV (Canadian Television Network) and simulcasted on local FM radio stations. I forget the name, but is was about (correct me if I am wrong) the last man and woman in a city that was controlled by a master robot and their journey to escape. Can anyone expand? It was about 5 years ago. The music was from GUP? Has this been discussed in the NMS before? I am a recent subscriber. I don't recall reading this in the last few weeks NMS's: (was it?) Last month, at the 1991 Juno Awards (Canadian equivalent of the Grammy Awards). RUSH won the Album of the year award for Presto. (correct me if I am wrong - I did not watch. TV - narcotic for the eyes). I guess, they were not there to accept, but GOWAN did accept for them (Alex is on GOWAN's new album - dicussed earlier in the NMS). Power Windows Tour, Ottawa, Canada 1986, FM was the backup band - for your lists . This was and is probably the last Rush Concert in Ottawa due to RUSH's so called "15K person minimun advanced booking requirement" - local radio station. Is this true elsewhere? _____ |\ /|\ /| | \/ | \/ | | | | | markm@bnr.ca (__J ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: My first post/new album Date: Sat, 06 Apr 91 23:46:44 EST From: comehome@wam.umd.edu first off: I have "an in" ('kinda; they don't know me directly) w/Alex's parent's. As of 2 days after Christmas Alex left for london to record "the same place they went last time". All of the recording must be done by now (IMHO) , especially since Neil is appearing live Moday eve. at the Ritz in NYC. I know the answers to most trivia about Neil's current and past kits. If you've got questions e-mail me. If I don't know the answer I do know someone who knows someone (we've heard that before!!) who is one of Neil's electronic techs and I can hopefully find it out from him. Neal Dillman -- University of Merryland "trust is just as rare as devotion" - ORQ ---------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 Apr 91 11:28 EDT From: WHLST@vms.cis.pitt.edu Subject: bootleg and covers I was just wondering, has Rush done any cover songs live. I would like to hear them play their interpretation of another writers song. I don't have any specific songs in mind. I'd also like to hear them play other songs at varying tempos instead of playing the song like they recorded it. I've only seen Rush 3 time so for all I know they hav not done much of this yet. One other note, anyone in the Pittsburgh area got any Rush bootlegs I'd like to get some copies, especially older stuff. mail me at whlst@vms.cis.pitt.edu Bill ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 Apr 91 23:29:15 -0400 From: wbarnes@sura.net Subject: Rush in other lands Does anyone have any idea how popular Rush is in other countries? As someone going through the "Worshiping the Ground the Boyz Walk On" stage of Rush fandom (well, maybe not that strong but close :-) as well as possibly thinking about moving overseas as well as curiouser than a dead cat (big Cheshire :-), I wanna know how big an international following they have, especially in non-English-speaking countries. Answers? Bill Barnes -"He's not afraid of your judgement" (Sorry, it's what I'm listening to at the moment...) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Apr 91 01:05:21 -0400 From: Michael S Savett <savvy@chopin.udel.edu> Subject: Those little dolls on Ged's keyboard, etc. Greetings to all once again... A few things: I don't know for sure what those dolls are, but I thought they might be the Rockin' Constructivists (see ASOH liner notes!) - those characters at the beginning of the ASOH video...any guesses? Does anyone know about a concert during HYF(?) when Ged was sick and Alex sang the lead vocals for the entire show...I think it took place in New England somewhere... If anyone is going to the Buddy Rich tribute in NYC Monday, a posted review would be appreciated... That's all for now... Michael savvy@chopin.udeledu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Apr 91 03:38:16 EDT From: Mike Borella <borellms@clutx.clarkson.edu> Subject: Fly in the Night CD bootleg I just picked up a "new" CD bootleg of the Permanent Waves tour called "Fly in the Night" Good overall sound quality. A bit better than "Red Stars..." but not as good as the Yes and Genesis CD boots put out by Flashback. Track listing: 1) Intro/Xanadu 2) A Farewell to Kings 3) Closer to the Heart 4) Something for Nothing 5) Cygnus X-1 6) Working Man 7) Fly by Night 8) In the Mood 9) Cinderella Man The main reason I got it was to check out the live versions of the Farewell... material. According to the cover, this is a limited edition release, with only 1000 copies made. Happy Hunting!!! -Mike Borella borellms@clutx.clarkson.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Hands in Presto? Date: Mon, 8 Apr 91 16:19:13 WET From: Moschops <M.ODonnell@computing-services.thames.ac.uk> Hey, How goes it. I just got NMS#205 with the "most frequently asked questions" section. Something that I thought was missing. What do the hands on the inside of Presto mean? Are they some kind of sign language or what? This has puzzled me for a while. ( ever since getting the album ) Oh yes .. I want to hear from all the guitarists out there.. Yes I know you're out there!!! Bye for know ( I know ... I can't Spell!!! ) Mossy ===== BTW Clive Williams - did you get my mail? Call me!! -- -----------------------------------------||--------------------------------- ------- Mike O'Donnell ------- || Thats " Moschops " to my friends || I love Rush,Queensryche and most Janet : om1ey1@uk.ac.thames.csc || Rock/Metal bands (or) M.ODonnell@uk.ac.thames.csc || London Monarchs lead the WLAF -----------------------------------------||--------------------------------- Purity Test Result(400 quest version)-%63|| Anything Can Happen - Rush -----------------------------------------||--------------------------------- What the hell, go ahead and put all your eggs in one basket. ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Whoops Date: Mon, 8 Apr 91 16:24:07 WET From: Moschops <M.ODonnell@computing-services.thames.ac.uk> Hey nearly forgot.... I wanna get a Rush album on Saturday....Haven't got them all yet What should I get out of Hemispheres Permenant Waves Farewell to Kings Moving Pictures Please mail me direct with suggestions and reasons for choice. Many Thanx Mossy ===== -- -----------------------------------------||--------------------------------- ------- Mike O'Donnell ------- || Thats " Moschops " to my friends || I love Rush,Queensryche and most Janet : om1ey1@uk.ac.thames.csc || Rock/Metal bands (or) M.ODonnell@uk.ac.thames.csc || London Monarchs lead the WLAF -----------------------------------------||--------------------------------- Purity Test Result(400 quest version)-%63|| Anything Can Happen - Rush -----------------------------------------||--------------------------------- Next Friday will not be your lucky day. As a matter of fact, you don't have a lucky day this year. ----------------------------------------------------------
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