The National Midnight Star #189

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 03/11/91 - The National Midnight Star #189
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 189 Monday, 11 March 1991 Today's Topics: Administrivia Zeppin, Cygnus X-1, etc. hello (none) obj: Trivia RED STARS CD A question... Neil's Electroni Setup "Imports" Laser Show Laser shows. Jack Secret Rush Comics stuff immortality & Raistlin ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Editor, The National Midnight Star Subject: Administrivia As most of you may have realized, there have been some irregularities with the mailings of the NMS in the last few days. This is due to several reasons which I'd like to explain here. First of all, there seems to be an awful lot of mail bouncing back with the messages "connection deferred", or "connection refused", or "connection timed out" sorts of messages. This means that the remote machines have dropped or refused a connection from Syrinx. I assume that when this happens, Syrinx will normally re-try at two-hour intervals, giving up after several tries. Many of those affected are in the .uk domain, and those connected via a UUCP connection. Dunno what I can do about it; just hang in there for now. Secondly, when sending to the list, the sheer size causes Syrinx (a 14 MIP machine with 8M of memory) to slow down for several minutes while it chews the mail queue. This has caused us to by necessity mail out the NMS later in the day, when the machine isn't busy. This was done by hand last Thurs., and was supposed to have been done automatically Friday. Well, it didn't. For some reason, the 'cron' setup I had didn't fire off when it was supposed to. I'll play with it today, and will continue to send the NMS manually until I can get the cron to run. Sorry for the sporadic sightings over the last half-week; I hope things settle down soon. Thank you for your support. rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Zeppin, Cygnus X-1, etc. Date: Fri, 8 Mar 91 12:21:28 PST From: Dan Dickerman GSY 1-447-4425 <dickermn@hpcugsya.cup.hp.com> A few issues back someone was asking for the Led Zepplin tune that sounds like Anthem (Track 1 on Rush's FBN). The only similarity that sprung to mind is the end bit: two (well, one and a strong echo) guitar power chords starting each measure, and just reverb filling the rest of the measure. This is similar to the intro to Zep's "Good Times Bad Times" (Begins with a similar chord-silence-chord... etc, then "In the days of my youth/ I was told what it means to be a man...) As for the relationship between Cyngus X-1's books 1 and 2, I agree with the last issue's poster somewhat, in that they coincide: the end of Hemispheres bringing-in the character who was riding the Rocinante through the black hole. Also, given the '70s theories about using Black Holes as portals into another time, my guess is that the subject of Cygnus Book 1 travelled through the black hole, screamed a bit, got disembodied, then travelled back in time and mythology to appear at the time of the Greek gods, where he was appointed God'o'Balance. Also remember that he's already screaming at the end of Book 1: "Every nerve is torn apart!" Ouch. Just before the "I have memory and awareness..." bit, listen for the parts of Cygnus X-1 that float by, indicating that this is where we get the tie in. He's disoriented at first, then realizes where he is, and that he's screaming -- causing the distraction. Finally to answer the question of: > I'd be interested to see a profile of NMS subscribers as follows: > Those who picked up Rush: > 1) From the begining > 2) During the second phase (AFTK to MP) > 3) Third phase (signals to present) For me it was during high school, when I heard bits of GUP (p/g) on the radio. After missing thier local show, but hearing "Exit... Stage Left", I started filling-in the record collection in reverse chronological order. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Mar 91 15:38:18 -0500 From: brian christopher te <testa@cis.ohio-state.edu> Subject: hello Hellooo fellow rush fans! (from yet another first time poster) I have been wondering if anyone knows the lyrics to Battle Scar? I happened across an old (* gag *) 8-track and it sound something like: Bust the bastards Screw the fear Let the healers feel the way I feel ...but please dont quote me because it is after all off an 8. [From memory: "Bust the busters/Screw the feelers/Make the healers/Feel the way I feel". I have the lyrics at home; I'll try to get them posted here, and also update the lyrics directory with them. (Dan and Keith: take note for new update to FAQL & addition to server) :rush-mgr ] Until later... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian C. Testa | "Be an adult,not a kid, testa@cis.ohio-state.edu | Hit the toilet,not the lid!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Ooh, I'm runnin here, I'm runnin there I'm lookin for a girl Cos there's nothin I need, there's nothin I want more CIU!! In the whole wide world Well I need it quick and I need it now Before I start to fade away That's why I'm searchin, that's why I'm lookin Each and every day!" -NEED SOME LOVE, RUSH 1974 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Mar 91 16:39:48 PST From: Eric Rescorla <rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu> More ideas about Xanadu. Doesn't it say "Held within the pleasure dome?" (I'm quoting from memory, but I think that is right), so would it be unreasonable to suspect that somehow this guy is physically trapped there? I don't know...just a thought. As for immortality being boring. Imagine being trapped alone in Xanadu for a thousand years---after all, he is the LAST immortal man. I think this would be pretty bad by then... -Eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Rescorla rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu Yale University Department of Chemistry rescorla@psun.chem.yale.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1991 20:40:54 EST From: RH2@JAGUAR.UCS.UOFS.EDU (Rebel, Runner, Restless young Romantic) Subject: obj: halloo, to all those concerned! i am quite interested and willing and capable and eager(and unable to stop this epinephrine surge) to keep a dynamic file of musicians, primarily those who play RUSH, but theoretically, any musicians. yea or nay? as i am attending the prestigious U of SCRANTON, i shall be receiving most of my information from the east coast; however, i am not limited by the fabric of time and space. hope to receive lots o' mail.... rose hometchko ^ | (*notice: that's 'eros,' in its english form*) ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Trivia From: lance@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca (Lance Neustaeter) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 91 20:39:50 PST Re: Diadacts and Narpets. There definately are words there, as opposed to "vocal sounds" and they are definately not the same word repeated over and over. Does anybody out there agree with the interpretations I had posted earlier? Re: Chain Lightening. Okay, listen to the four bar phrase which comes right before Geddy sings his first line. In the second and fourth bar you will hear Geddy faintly singing syncopated ("between the beats") "hey, hey, hey" after counts 1, 2 and 3. If you can pick it out there, you should then recognize it throughout the song. As for the police whistle on Distant Early Warning, I discovered it by reading somewhere (record cover?) that one of the instruments played by Neil was the police whistle, so I decided to listen to the whole CD in order to find out in which song he did. Good Premises, $ They laugh 'cause they know they're Lance Neustaeter $ untouchable, not because what I said <lance@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca> $ was wrong. --Sinead O'Connor ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 9 March 1991 00:14:25 CST From: "RUSH HEAD " <U24129@UICVM.uic.edu> Subject: RED STARS CD i have come across a few of these. its basically the sound track from EXIT...LEFT vid. the sound quality is only fair and since its a direct copy from the vid its not really worth the money. unless u happen to be a collector since they are getting to be fairly rare. the ave. price is $35-40 bucks though. so i would not put this item at the top of your MEMORABILIA LIST but if you've got every other item then go for it! patster ORQ: "he won't need a bed, he's the digital man" ps: certainly true since i have finals this week. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 9 Mar 91 04:47:43 -0800 From: Brian Markenson <brianm@ocf.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: A question... This might be a rather naive question, but I don't know the answer, so I figured it couldn't hurt to ask. By the way, I am new to Rush fandom, having just discovered them in December. They have since become my favorite band. Anyway, I've heard a number of references in this list to Rush being a Satanic band...after having listened to most of their albums, I just can't find where such a rumor would spring from! Where did this idea originate, and who proposed it? Just curious.... Thanks for your time..... [ Most of it is just wind; the most "incriminating" thing I've heard them use is the fact that _2112_ has a pentagram on the cover. Well, for starters, it's NOT a pentagram... See back issue #28 for Neils' response to charges of Satanism in rock music. :rush-mgr ] Brian Markenson --------------- brianm@ocf.berkeley.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 9 Mar 91 09:57:48 EST From: pakman@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (David Pakman ) Subject: Neil's Electroni Setup Greetings! Someone asked for a description of Neil's Electronic Setup. Initially, he used simply Simmons SDS9 (Grace) including that ancient brain making the familiar "electronic" drum sounds. He quickly switched to Simmons SDS1000 pads, utilizing the Yamaha Pad-to-MIDI converter. After acquiring something like 6 Akai S900 (with the 16-bit upgrade), he sampled everything on the planet and has Larry Allen load them in during the show. He also has the KAT MIDI controller playing samples from the S900s. Rather recently (Presto Tour), he changed pads and no longer uses the Simmons as his triggers, now favoring ddrum electric pads. Lastly, he uses the Shark pedals as foot triggers and has a custom made trigger placed between his 12" and 14" mounted toms, affectionately referred to as Sydney. Take care, David Pakman pakman@eniac.seas.upenn.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 9 Mar 91 12:34:45 CST From: Robert Clark <rex@buhub.bradley.edu> Subject: "Imports" There has been some question of the nature of Red Star of the Solar Federation. I would advise not to buy it. When Rush put out the video to ESL, they also broadcast the concert on some national concert of the week thnig. Anyway, all that is is the soundtrack to the ESL video. A friend got it last year and I ended up doing some very close listening tests and I STRONGLY believe it's just that. [ If that's the case, it's also on side four of the Import "Sailing Into Destiny". :rush-mgr ] Also, our beloved manager mentioned Xanadu. Another fine Import. That's taken from one of the 1980 St. Louis shows. March 16th I think. They played three nights so one never knows which show(s) it was taken from. Anyway, the single album version of that is called Temples of the Syrinx. It includes La Villa Strangiato, Natural Science, 2112(The whole thing for once), and In the Mood + Drum solo(YYZ wasn't around! :-) BOTH of those are of very fine quality for Imports. [ Ahh, yes, that's what I was referring to, "The Temples Of Syrinx". From what I'd heard (never having see/heard it in person) it's not as good a copy. I don't know if it was a higher generation tape, or a different/poorer copy of the same show, or what... :rush-mgr ] Both of them were given to me before I had any clue of how cool RUsh was. -Rob Clark rex@buhub.bradley.edu SOrry 'bout the typos, I just woke up. ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Laser Show Date: Sat, 09 Mar 91 12:50:24 +0000 From: gimper@leland.Stanford.EDU Greetings Rush fans! Although I have subscribed to this group for several months now, this is my first post, so bear with me. Anyway, a few months ago there was a post about a laser Rush show in the Bay Area. I went to see the show last night, and it was quite good. I found the musical selections quite surprising: 2112 (Overture and The Temples of Syrinx) Tom Sawyer New World Man The Weapon The Body Electric YYZ Show Don't Tell red lenses Between the Wheels The Spirit of Radio I really did not expect so much from p/g. (Not that I don't like it -- p/g is one of my favorites.) But I would have liked to hear *something* from PoW or HYF. Actually, this playlist (with the exception of "Show Don't Tell") is very similar to one that I heard at a laser show in L.A. after p/g had just come out. For you Bay Area subscribers, if you want to catch the show, you'd better hurry! They announced last night that this upcoming Friday (3/15) is going to be the final showing of Laser Rush. It's held in the Planetarium in Golden Gate Park. Showtimes are 7:30 and 9:00, and the price is $6.00. If you want more info, e-mail me. And just to throw in two more cents to an old subject, I also have a preference for Ged's Rickenbacker. I don't mind the Wal for the new stuff, but I don't particularly like it on the old tunes. In particular, during the guitar solo of "Tom Sawyer" on the ASoH video, the Wal just doesn't seem to have enough bottom end to cut through like the Rick did. Anyway, there's my $0.02. (Or more like $20.00) :-) -- Stuart ORQ: Contrary to what was said on another page, I do *not* use a Hentor Barbarian bass - they're too long... (Geddy Lee, p/g tourbook) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Tero Valkonen <one@clinet.FI> Subject: Laser shows. Date: Sat, 9 Mar 91 23:53:10 EET So the question is: what are these Rush laser shows, anyway? Something related to movies (very distantly, I suppose, if at all)? 3-D videos or something? Well, at least I got the guts to show my ignorance on this subject. :-) Any info would be deeply appreciated. [ It's like a Pink Floyd concert, only with Rush music. :-) :-) :rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 9 Mar 91 19:45:09 EST From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer) Subject: Jack Secret "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain." --The Wizard Of Oz * From the disk of: | jms@vanth.uucp | "There's UFOs over New Jim Shaffer, Jr. | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | York, and I ain't too 37 Brook Street | uunet!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms | surprised." Montgomery, PA 17752 | 72750.2335@compuserve.com | (John Lennon) "Nobody told me there'd be days like these... Strange days indeed!" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 9 Mar 91 19:50:57 EST From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer) Subject: Rush Comics cygnus@wpi.wpi.edu (Marshall Robin) writes: > >That was Defenders #45. Got it right in front of me here. They used >"Truth is false and logic lost". Not only that, but it was dedicated >to Geddy, Alex, and Neil of Rush on the first page. The story has >an anti-collectivist theme to it. Since it was printed Mar 77 it >makes sense that it would draw from 2112 (however vaguely). Maybe this >is FAQL material? Huh? Did I miss something here? This looks like it's an answer to a question, but I never saw the question. (By the way, since it's now 1991, my brother is trying to find out when the Rush edition of "Rock Fantasy" is going to be out.) * From the disk of: | jms@vanth.uucp | "There's UFOs over New Jim Shaffer, Jr. | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | York, and I ain't too 37 Brook Street | uunet!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms | surprised." Montgomery, PA 17752 | 72750.2335@compuserve.com | (John Lennon) "Nobody told me there'd be days like these... Strange days indeed!" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Mar 91 13:39:03 EST From: joezete@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter John Chestna) Subject: stuff I have a few comments on some things brought up in Fri's NMS. First, someone asked about "Red Stars of the Solar Federation": This is just portions of Exit...Stage Left put onto disk, when I heard it for the first time, in between songs, Neil would start talking, thats what tipped me off. It's worth getting as a collector, but if you just want boots, this is not a must have. Second, there was a question about Rush's move to Atlantic records: They made the switch because they felt they needed a change. They wanted to see what another company would do for them. Specifically, they desired that the new company do a better job of promoting their album releases, which Polygram really didn't do IMHO. Proof of Atlantics commitment is the RUSH Profiled disk that was released after Presto. Just an update: The concert poll is going well, there are alot of good ideas out there. You'll be interested to know that Natural Science ahs taken a commanding lead(now that really makes me :-)). Keep those concert lists coming!! Pete ORQ: Alternating currents force a change of plans Rational responses force a change of plans ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: immortality & Raistlin Date: Mon, 11 Mar 91 10:24:08 CST From: dragon!keith@uunet.UU.NET (Keith Ford) > Just my two pence on the last immortal man. Immortality is boring and > likely bound to drive you crazy, even if you have good food and good > drink to eat (honeydew and the milk of paradise). In the fantasy book series, Dragon Lance, there is a mage named Raistlin Majere. When he took his sorcerer's test, he was cursed with three things. His body because very frail, his skin took on a golden hue, and the pupils of his eyes became shaped like hour-glasses. This last curse caused him to see everything in an accelerated time. People he would look at would age, die, and turn to dust, or so it appeared to him. Anything of beauty quickly whithered with age. Now, someone who lives forever would see his friends come and go, and nature would pass him by. He would not be a true part of his surroundings. No matter where he went, this would be the case. Maddening, no doubt. When he says he can't leave the caves of ice, I don't think he means physically. The caves symbolize his encasement, and the ice indicates the "frozen" state of being. (IMHO of course) NOTE: Nick Pittfield, your server requests are being sent back to you, but a mail or gateway problem must be munching them. Try using a Reply-To that you know works well. -- "He knows changes aren't permanent, but change is" -Rush ----------------------------------------------------------
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